December 2003 - openSUSE AMD64 - openSUSE Mailing Lists

SuSE 9.0 AMD64 - Hardware detection issues with Shuttle SN85G4?
by dreadnought 07 Dec '03

07 Dec '03

While working through the SuSE 9.0 AMD64 installation on my Shuttle SN85G4, I noticed the following oddities: No network card was detected 3D Acceleration was unavailable TV Card was not detected Once SuSE was fully installed, I went into YAST2 network devices. Still no network device detected. On the graphics side, I have an ATI AIW 9600, so 3D acceleration and "TV Card" I would think would both be found. I was going to see what the Linux drivers do on NVIDIA's website for the nforce chipset, but since the network card wasn't detected I couldn't go .. ;) I'll use another machine to burn a CD with those drivers and see what happens. Mark

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installation media
by Mathieu Schneilin 07 Dec '03

07 Dec '03

Hello, Does SuSE 9.0 for AMD64 come only on DVD or is it also supplied on a set of CD-ROMs ? Thanks, -Mathieu

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Newbie questions about SuSE for AMD64 ..
by dreadnought 07 Dec '03

07 Dec '03

Is there a document that explains the various nuances of how software is (or should be) optimized for AMD64 when using SuSE? For example .. I'm now installing SuSE for AMD64 on my machine, but have all the software packages themselves been compiled for AMD64, or are they still 32bit? And I know compiled isn't necessarily optimized, so are any of the software packages further optimized for AMD64? And finally, what about drivers? In theory, to have a more optimized system, would you need a full set of 64bit optimized hardware drivers? I'm the first one in our office to buy a 64bit machine, so I have no experience with anything but 32bit systems. (Well, Atari Jaguar .. but .. ;) ) Mark

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Re: [suse-amd64] Stuck on hardware detection with Shuttle SN85G4?
by dreadnought 07 Dec '03

07 Dec '03

Hi Andi, Andreas: > ------------Original Message------------ > From: Andi Kleen <ak(a)suse.de> > To: dreadnought <dreadnought(a)arsenal.net> > Cc: suse-amd64(a)suse.com > Date: Sun, Dec-7-2003 6:40 AM > Subject: Re: [suse-amd64] Stuck on hardware detection with Shuttle SN85G4? > > On Sat, Dec 06, 2003 at 08:39:45PM -0800, dreadnought wrote: > > I checked the ALT-F3 console and noticed I have a bad rip value at the hardware detection stage. > > > > I looked for disable legacy USB, per an earlier post re: a bad rip value, but I don't have that option in my BIOS. > > Boot with idle=poll > > That is just a kludge and will make your machine eat a lot of power. > You should really ask your BIOS vendor for an update. Ask for a fix > for the CPU Errata #93 > > -Andi Using idle=poll as a boot option worked! SuSE is now installing on my Shuttle SN85G4. I'll check on the BIOS situation. I looked last night on Shuttle's website and I did not see a more recent BIOS (in fact, only one update since first release) but I will look harder today. A couple more questions .. 1.) Now that I have SuSE installing with idle=poll as a boot option, will that carry over to some persistent system setting, or is that only going to be in effect for the installation session? If it will change something permanently, is there a way for me to "fix" my system once a BIOS update is available? 2.) I'm not a programmer, so I'm not sure what idle=poll means. I'm curious, what is actually broken in the BIOS to make this necessary? And finally, thanks for the help. I've tried lots of distributions and had previously settled on Red Hat. I had been buying the RHN support until I got the notice it was being cancelled. It looks like I'll be moving our office over to SuSE! Mark

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Re: [suse-amd64] Stuck on hardware detection with Shuttle SN85G4?
by dreadnought 07 Dec '03

07 Dec '03

I checked the ALT-F3 console and noticed I have a bad rip value at the hardware detection stage. I looked for disable legacy USB, per an earlier post re: a bad rip value, but I don't have that option in my BIOS. Mark > > ------------Original Message------------ > > From: "dreadnought" <dreadnought(a)arsenal.net> > > To: suse-amd64(a)suse.com > > Date: Sat, Dec-6-2003 8:07 PM > > Subject: [suse-amd64] Stuck on hardware detection with Shuttle SN85G4? > > > > Hello all, > > > > I got my boxed set of SUSE LINUX 9.0 for AMD64 this last week and was really excited to get it installed. > > > > I've now tried the standard installation and installation with ACPI disabled, and in both cases SuSE appears to hang at hardware detection! > > > > I have a Shuttle SN85G4 (http://www.shuttle.com/hq/product/barebone/specs_b.asp?B_id=25) with an ATI Radeon AIW 9600 Pro. > > <snip>

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Re: [suse-amd64] Stuck on hardware detection with Shuttle SN85G4?
by Andreas Jaeger 07 Dec '03

07 Dec '03

Vojtech Pavlik <vojtech(a)suse.cz> writes: > On Sun, Dec 07, 2003 at 10:53:09AM +0100, Andreas Jaeger wrote: >> "dreadnought" <dreadnought(a)arsenal.net> writes: >> >> > I checked the ALT-F3 console and noticed I have a bad rip value at the hardware detection stage. >> > >> > I looked for disable legacy USB, per an earlier post re: a bad rip value, but I don't have that option in my BIOS. >> >> That's bad :-( >> >> Try also booting with "poll=idle" added at the default installation >> screen. There's a typo in my email, please use "idle=poll". > Another thing to try is to disable USB in the BIOS altogether if it is > possible, and of course, as always, to go and look if there is an > updated BIOS on the Shuttle website. Agreed, Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger, aj(a)suse.de, http://www.suse.de/~aj SuSE Linux AG, Deutschherrnstr. 15-19, 90429 Nürnberg, Germany GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126

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SuSE 9.0 Pro + Tyan S2885 + Nvidia FX5200 + Nvidia 1.0.4499 drivers problems
by jthiessen＠penguincomputing.com 07 Dec '03

07 Dec '03

Hi, I was reading the SuSE-AMD64 archives for November and noticed that at least one person reported success getting an Nvidia GeForce card to work with the Tyan S2885 board and Nvidia's drivers under Suse 9.0. I've been having some trouble with a GeForce FX5200 on the same board with Suse 9.0 Pro and Nvidia's 1.0.4499 drivers, and I was wondering if perhaps there was some step I'd missed in the configuration. I'd would really appreciate it if anyone could offer some insight into the problem. To summarize the steps I took: (1) Installed Suse 9.0 Professional. (2) Downloaded Andreas Jager's -139 (tried -143 as well) kernel source. (3) Recompiled the -139 kernel with agpgart as a module rather than built-in. (4) Dowloaded the Nvidia x86_64 1.0.4499 kernel and GL tarballs. (5) Unpacked the kernel and GL tarballs, and patched the kernel with the Suse Nvidia patch (-mno-red-zone, etc.) (6) Compiled/installed Nvidia kernel module(s), then GL module(s) (7) Edited XF86Config file to load "nvidia" driver rather than "nv", (same as "switch2nvidia") and commented out DRI bits. With the various settings of "NvAGP" I get: NvAGP Results ---------------------------------------------------------------------- 0 1 GL app -> slow (PCI), but still ~ 2500 fps with glxgears >1 GL app -> very slow, but varying. Usually seems to freeze up within a couple of seconds, then come out of the freeze after a while. After coming out of the freeze, the GL apps run slowly, and periodically slow down to almost a standstill for a second or two. 1 X fails to load, garbage on the screen, have to reboot. 2 pretty much the same as with "NvAGP" "0" ----------------------------------------------------------------------- I can provide relevant sections of the XFree86.0.log and XF86Config files if they would be helpful. I don't see any obvious problems in the log file, unfortunately. Supposedly, AGP 8X gets set, Direct Rendering is enabled, and the graphics mode is successfully initialized, even with "NvAGP" "1". This is obviously not borne out by what's on the screen. Again, any suggestions as to the nature of the problem would be appreciated. Justin Thiessen ------------- jthiessen(a)penguincomputing.com PENGUIN COMPUTING www.penguincomputing.com

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Stuck on hardware detection with Shuttle SN85G4?
by dreadnought 07 Dec '03

07 Dec '03

Hello all, I got my boxed set of SUSE LINUX 9.0 for AMD64 this last week and was really excited to get it installed. I've now tried the standard installation and installation with ACPI disabled, and in both cases SuSE appears to hang at hardware detection! I have a Shuttle SN85G4 (http://www.shuttle.com/hq/product/barebone/specs_b.asp?B_id=25) with an ATI Radeon AIW 9600 Pro. Any ideas? Thanks! Mark

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SLES 8 Kernel - NUMA vs SMP
by Bedard, Joe 06 Dec '03

06 Dec '03

Greetings: SLES 8 for AMD64 2.4.21-143 Two Celestica A8440 Quartet servers (Four 844 Opterons, 8GB RAM) I am running Oracle 9.2.0.x and attempting to run a very large materialized view refresh. (high disk/memory i/o and cpu intensive) The SMP Kernel seems to be infinitely more stable than the NUMA under high load. Its been my experience that the NUMA kernel will crash about once a day on my development server. The SMP Kernel runs rock solid. The NUMA Kernel seems to be faster under most conditions. When is the NUMA Kernel going to be ready for prime time? (Or do I have to wait for a UnitedLinux 2.6.x kernel?) Thanks Joe Bedard

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RE: [suse-amd64] 9.0 Install Problems
by Alan Gray 05 Dec '03

05 Dec '03

Ok, Just reinstalled everything. Started the kernel config program, set on SMP support, it then says make symblinks dep I assume this is from /usr/src/linux. I have done that without any errors. Other note I have on the web talk about running make bzImage make modules make modules_install then some cp commands. Is this right? I really don't want to have to reinstall again. With all the hassles, I installed over 20 times in the space of a week. Regards Alan

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