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RE: [suse-amd64] More woes with Sata(n) on Tyan K2885 motherboard
by Alan Gray 21 Dec '03

21 Dec '03

Sounds good. Am I right in assumming you are not running Suse 9.0 ? The problem with SATA for me started when I installed 9.0. When I was running 8.2 Beta, everything was fine, except some performance problems where both Suse 8.2 and Windows XP 64bit hung for upto 1 minute, and then continues as if nothing happened. > -----Original Message----- > From: Jyh-Shyong Ho [mailto:c00jsh00@nchc.org.tw] > Sent: Sunday, 21 December 2003 5:37 PM > To: Alan Gray > Cc: suse-amd64(a)suse.com > Subject: Re: [suse-amd64] More woes with Sata(n) on Tyan > K2885 motherboard > > > Hi, > > I solved partially the problem of Silicon Image 3114 SATA driver on > Tyan 2885 motherboard. I downloaded the beta version of the driver > from Silicon Image user support page. You need to fill the dialog > box with the right keyword (something like sii3114 SATA 64-bit driver > for Linux) under "Submit a Question" in order to get the > SiI3114: Serial ATA (SATA) 64-bit Linux RAID Driver-beta > (driver 3114_AMD_linux_rdvr-1.0.0.20-BUNDLE-.zip) listed for download. > > Since my SLSE8 for AMD64 is already running, I simply copied > the driver > sii6514.o to directory /lib/modules/2.4.19-SMP/kernel/drivers/scsi > and used command > > insmod /lib/modules/2.4.19-SMP/kernel/drivers/scsi/sii6514.o > > to install the module. After the module is installed, the 4 disks > (in RAID 0 specified in Silicon Image BIOS setting during the system > boot) appears as /dev/sda. > > At tne moment, I have to include above command and mount the file > system in file /etc/init.d/boot.local in order to load sii6514.o > every time I reboot the system. > > Since the disks connected to SATA board do not appears in the list > of bootable devices in TYAN2885's BIOS, in addition, the SLSE8 > installers > does not include driver Sii6514.o, there is no way to install SLSE8 > on any one of the SATA disks or RAID. > > Actually, I am using IDE hard disks with SATA-IDE adapters to connect > SATA cables. > > Jyh-Shyong Ho, PhD. > Research Scientist > National Center for High-Performance Computing > Hsinchu, Taiwan, ROC > > Alan Gray wrote: > > > > Hi there, > > > > Thanks for that, I have a look in a few minutes in the BIOS. > > > > Silicon image did release drivers for 8.0/8.2beta of Suse > but not 9.0. > > I have tried installing the 2.6.0 Linux kernel, but get a > hang on boot. > > I'm not sure what SLSE8 is. > > > > Another poster, Frank, did manage to get SATA running on a > 2885, but he > > was running different SATA drives from me (I have Seagate). > In the 2.6 kernel, > > there is work happening, but not soon enough for me. I'm > going to put everything > > on SCSI (except /boot which will need to be on a IDE disk). > > > > Andreas Jaeger spent a fair bit of time with me trying to > get the Silicon Image Sata(n) > > controller to work, but in the end, he recommended using > IDE :-( which I aggreed with > > after waisting a week on it. > > > > Not sure if this helps > > > > Alan > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Jyh-Shyong Ho [mailto:c00jsh00@nchc.org.tw] > > > Sent: Sunday, 21 December 2003 1:14 PM > > > To: Alan Gray > > > Cc: suse-amd64(a)suse.com > > > Subject: Re: [suse-amd64] More woes with Sata(n) on Tyan > > > K2885 motherboard > > > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > I have the same TYAN2885 board. Please check your BIOS setup, > > > under Advance menu, "Onboard Serial ATA" should be [Enabled], > > > and "Serial ATA Option ROM" shluld be [RAID]. With this setting, > > > the booting procedure will display the list of disks connected > > > by SATA cables and the Silicon Image BIOS message (Cntr-S or > > > F4 to configure RAID). If "Serial ATA Option ROM" is set to IDE, > > > then only the list of disks will be displayed. > > > Only when "Serial ATA Option ROM" is set to [RAID], the RAID disk > > > will appear in the BOOT menu as one of the bootable hard disks. > > > > > > My problem on TYAN2885 is that SLSE8 for AMD64 (kernel > > > 2.4.19smp) does > > > not recognize these disks, I guess that the Silicon Image 64-bit > > > driver is missing in my SLSE8 CDs, anyone knows how to solve > > > this problem? > > > > > > Graphic card is another problem, does anyone know what > graphic card > > > is available for TYAN2885 runng SLSE8 for AMD64 with SMP kernel? > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > Jyh-Shyong Ho, PhD. > > > Research Scientist > > > National Center for High-Performance Computing > > > Hsinchu, Taiwan, ROC > > > > > > Alan Gray wrote: > > > > > > > > It just gets worse and worse. > > > > > > > > Unless I'm going crazy, at some point during boot, when the > > > Silicon Image Bios > > > > loads for the Tyan K2885, it used to display a message for > > > which keystrokes/function keys > > > > to press to configure the raid settings etc etc. > > > > > > > > Now, this does not display and I've tried every combination > > > I can think off. > > > > Can anyone remember the keys? > > > > > > > > All I did was use the Tyan update bios listed elsewhere on > > > this mailing list. > > > > Since then the message has gone. I even down graded the > > > BIOS back to the release > > > > version and the message is still absent. > > > > > > > > What is worse is now my installation of Windows 64 bit > > > edition does not boot. > > > > When the Sil bios loads, it lists the 2 drives, but does > > > not seem to then list the > > > > logical drives (I used striped RAID across the 2 seagate > > > 80gig drives) > > > > > > > > Arrrgggghhhhhhhhh !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! > > > > Alan > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Check the List-Unsubscribe header to unsubscribe > > > > For additional commands, email: suse-amd64-help(a)suse.com > > > > > > -- > > > Check the List-Unsubscribe header to unsubscribe > > > For additional commands, email: suse-amd64-help(a)suse.com > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Check the List-Unsubscribe header to unsubscribe > > For additional commands, email: suse-amd64-help(a)suse.com >

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RE: [suse-amd64] More woes with Sata(n) on Tyan K2885 motherboard
by Alan Gray 21 Dec '03

21 Dec '03

Hi there, Thanks for that, I have a look in a few minutes in the BIOS. Silicon image did release drivers for 8.0/8.2beta of Suse but not 9.0. I have tried installing the 2.6.0 Linux kernel, but get a hang on boot. I'm not sure what SLSE8 is. Another poster, Frank, did manage to get SATA running on a 2885, but he was running different SATA drives from me (I have Seagate). In the 2.6 kernel, there is work happening, but not soon enough for me. I'm going to put everything on SCSI (except /boot which will need to be on a IDE disk). Andreas Jaeger spent a fair bit of time with me trying to get the Silicon Image Sata(n) controller to work, but in the end, he recommended using IDE :-( which I aggreed with after waisting a week on it. Not sure if this helps Alan > -----Original Message----- > From: Jyh-Shyong Ho [mailto:c00jsh00@nchc.org.tw] > Sent: Sunday, 21 December 2003 1:14 PM > To: Alan Gray > Cc: suse-amd64(a)suse.com > Subject: Re: [suse-amd64] More woes with Sata(n) on Tyan > K2885 motherboard > > > Hi, > > I have the same TYAN2885 board. Please check your BIOS setup, > under Advance menu, "Onboard Serial ATA" should be [Enabled], > and "Serial ATA Option ROM" shluld be [RAID]. With this setting, > the booting procedure will display the list of disks connected > by SATA cables and the Silicon Image BIOS message (Cntr-S or > F4 to configure RAID). If "Serial ATA Option ROM" is set to IDE, > then only the list of disks will be displayed. > Only when "Serial ATA Option ROM" is set to [RAID], the RAID disk > will appear in the BOOT menu as one of the bootable hard disks. > > My problem on TYAN2885 is that SLSE8 for AMD64 (kernel > 2.4.19smp) does > not recognize these disks, I guess that the Silicon Image 64-bit > driver is missing in my SLSE8 CDs, anyone knows how to solve > this problem? > > Graphic card is another problem, does anyone know what graphic card > is available for TYAN2885 runng SLSE8 for AMD64 with SMP kernel? > > Regards > > Jyh-Shyong Ho, PhD. > Research Scientist > National Center for High-Performance Computing > Hsinchu, Taiwan, ROC > > Alan Gray wrote: > > > > It just gets worse and worse. > > > > Unless I'm going crazy, at some point during boot, when the > Silicon Image Bios > > loads for the Tyan K2885, it used to display a message for > which keystrokes/function keys > > to press to configure the raid settings etc etc. > > > > Now, this does not display and I've tried every combination > I can think off. > > Can anyone remember the keys? > > > > All I did was use the Tyan update bios listed elsewhere on > this mailing list. > > Since then the message has gone. I even down graded the > BIOS back to the release > > version and the message is still absent. > > > > What is worse is now my installation of Windows 64 bit > edition does not boot. > > When the Sil bios loads, it lists the 2 drives, but does > not seem to then list the > > logical drives (I used striped RAID across the 2 seagate > 80gig drives) > > > > Arrrgggghhhhhhhhh !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! > > Alan > > > > -- > > Check the List-Unsubscribe header to unsubscribe > > For additional commands, email: suse-amd64-help(a)suse.com > > -- > Check the List-Unsubscribe header to unsubscribe > For additional commands, email: suse-amd64-help(a)suse.com > >

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RE: [suse-amd64] More woes with Sata(n) on Tyan K2885 motherboard
by Alan Gray 21 Dec '03

21 Dec '03

Hi Jyh-Shyong Ho, Your a genius ! you picked it in 1. After I updated the BIOS, it must have lost all the settings :-( A question for the mailing list. If on the Tyan 2885, you have "Serial ATA Option ROM" is set to [RAID], but you dont create a RAID set, could this explain some of the performance problems I faced. Because I treated each disk as a separate volume, both Linux 8.2 Beta and WIndows XP 64 bit both had horrible delays in writing to the disk. Should have the BIOS be set to IDE in this case ? Alan > -----Original Message----- > From: Jyh-Shyong Ho [mailto:c00jsh00@nchc.org.tw] > Sent: Sunday, 21 December 2003 1:14 PM > To: Alan Gray > Cc: suse-amd64(a)suse.com > Subject: Re: [suse-amd64] More woes with Sata(n) on Tyan > K2885 motherboard > > > Hi, > > I have the same TYAN2885 board. Please check your BIOS setup, > under Advance menu, "Onboard Serial ATA" should be [Enabled], > and "Serial ATA Option ROM" shluld be [RAID]. With this setting, > the booting procedure will display the list of disks connected > by SATA cables and the Silicon Image BIOS message (Cntr-S or > F4 to configure RAID). If "Serial ATA Option ROM" is set to IDE, > then only the list of disks will be displayed. > Only when "Serial ATA Option ROM" is set to [RAID], the RAID disk > will appear in the BOOT menu as one of the bootable hard disks. > > My problem on TYAN2885 is that SLSE8 for AMD64 (kernel > 2.4.19smp) does > not recognize these disks, I guess that the Silicon Image 64-bit > driver is missing in my SLSE8 CDs, anyone knows how to solve > this problem? > > Graphic card is another problem, does anyone know what graphic card > is available for TYAN2885 runng SLSE8 for AMD64 with SMP kernel? > > Regards > > Jyh-Shyong Ho, PhD. > Research Scientist > National Center for High-Performance Computing > Hsinchu, Taiwan, ROC > > Alan Gray wrote: > > > > It just gets worse and worse. > > > > Unless I'm going crazy, at some point during boot, when the > Silicon Image Bios > > loads for the Tyan K2885, it used to display a message for > which keystrokes/function keys > > to press to configure the raid settings etc etc. > > > > Now, this does not display and I've tried every combination > I can think off. > > Can anyone remember the keys? > > > > All I did was use the Tyan update bios listed elsewhere on > this mailing list. > > Since then the message has gone. I even down graded the > BIOS back to the release > > version and the message is still absent. > > > > What is worse is now my installation of Windows 64 bit > edition does not boot. > > When the Sil bios loads, it lists the 2 drives, but does > not seem to then list the > > logical drives (I used striped RAID across the 2 seagate > 80gig drives) > > > > Arrrgggghhhhhhhhh !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! > > Alan > > > > -- > > Check the List-Unsubscribe header to unsubscribe > > For additional commands, email: suse-amd64-help(a)suse.com > > -- > Check the List-Unsubscribe header to unsubscribe > For additional commands, email: suse-amd64-help(a)suse.com > >

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More woes with Sata(n) on Tyan K2885 motherboard
by Alan Gray 21 Dec '03

21 Dec '03

It just gets worse and worse. Unless I'm going crazy, at some point during boot, when the Silicon Image Bios loads for the Tyan K2885, it used to display a message for which keystrokes/function keys to press to configure the raid settings etc etc. Now, this does not display and I've tried every combination I can think off. Can anyone remember the keys? All I did was use the Tyan update bios listed elsewhere on this mailing list. Since then the message has gone. I even down graded the BIOS back to the release version and the message is still absent. What is worse is now my installation of Windows 64 bit edition does not boot. When the Sil bios loads, it lists the 2 drives, but does not seem to then list the logical drives (I used striped RAID across the 2 seagate 80gig drives) Arrrgggghhhhhhhhh !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Alan

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RE: [suse-amd64] Dual AMD 64
by Alan Gray 20 Dec '03

20 Dec '03

> > On Wednesday 17 December 2003 22:03, Alan Gray wrote: > > Hi Frank, > > > > I am about to give this a try. Two questions if you don't mind. > > > > 1) where did you get the "2.6.0-test11" kernel from & > I have used a plain 2.6.0-test11 kernel from ftp.kernel.org > to be sure that > the Si3114 patch is matching. > May be this is a little different to the one released by > SuSE, may be there > are more patches applied already. I've looked at the differences of the source code for siimage.c from kernel.org and suse. In suse, there is additional code for dealing with Seagate drives. It looks like someone found problems. It just so happens I have Seagates, and I remember you have someother brand. Looks like I drew the short straw twice. The weird thing is that when grub stage 2 starts, at that point, menu.lst has been read from /boot/grub, and once I select my 2.6 kernel, there is plenty of disk activity as though a boot is in progress, its just the screen goes blank. Tried pinging the computer from another box, but it is obvious the computer has not booted to a login stage. Anyway, time to have a XMAS beer, and attack this a bit later on. For the moment, I have a very lovely looking $8000 bookend :-( Happy XMAS Alan > Now 2.6.0 is released, but I don't know about the SiI3114 > patch. I have seen > it in Andrew Mortons -mm tree, so may be in 2.6.1. > > > 2) are you running SMP? > Yes, it works so far - but no intensiv tests yet. I have only > checked that all > my hardware in ok. I will start the work with that system > after Christmas > holiday. > > Frank > > > -- > Check the List-Unsubscribe header to unsubscribe > For additional commands, email: suse-amd64-help(a)suse.com > >

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RE: [suse-amd64] Memtest on S2885 dual opteron?
by david.obrien＠amd.com 19 Dec '03

19 Dec '03

> Nah, this is actually about getting memtest86 to work, rather > than load, start drawing the display, and reboot. memtest86 is does not gracefully fall back if it does not recognize the CPUID of the machine. Since AMD64 CPU's CPUID is not known by memtest86 it typically sets up very wrong for AMD64 and crashes as you mention. I would email the memtest86 developers and ask them to fix this. Just adding a "default:" to their switch statement on CPUID would help. -- David

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RE: [suse-amd64] Dual AMD 64
by Alan Gray 19 Dec '03

19 Dec '03

Hi Frank, I am about to give this a try. Two questions if you don't mind. 1) where did you get the "2.6.0-test11" kernel from & 2) are you running SMP? Andreas posted this a little while back, > Hello again, > > will the kernel 2.6 also be available for SUSE-Linux9.0-AMD64 as an > update ? Not as an official and supported update. You can get it already today >From ftp.suse.com/pub/people/kraxel/x86_64/ but I'm guessing that this is not test11 ? Thanks in advance, Alan > -----Original Message----- > From: Alan Gray > Sent: Monday, 15 December 2003 8:38 AM > To: suse-amd64(a)suse.com > Subject: RE: [suse-amd64] Dual AMD 64 > > > Thanks for that. Will give a go later. > > Dumb question. I presume you stll have to boot strap via IDE disks > when installing 9.0, get a system running then apply the > patches, recompile, > then you'll get the SATA disks available ? > > Regards > Alan > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Frank Pieczynski [mailto:pieczy@web.de] > > Sent: Monday, 15 December 2003 5:14 AM > > To: Alan Gray > > Cc: suse-amd64(a)suse.com > > Subject: Re: [suse-amd64] Dual AMD 64 > > > > > > On Sunday 14 December 2003 02:52, Alan Gray wrote: > > > I built a dual AMD on Suse 9.0 using a Tyan K2885 mother > > board (needed > > > AGP). DONT use SATA drives. No drivers and Silicon Image > > cant tell us when > > > :-( > > > > I got my two HITACHI 160GB SATA running connected to the > > SiI3114 of my Tyan > > Thunder K8W today :-) > > Here you find the patch for the 2.6.0-test11 kernel: > > http://lwn.net/Articles/62230/ > > > > hdparm shows 58MB/s, no error until now, heavy compiling > > today using the > > drives. > > > > Regards > > Frank > > > > > > -- > Check the List-Unsubscribe header to unsubscribe > For additional commands, email: suse-amd64-help(a)suse.com > >

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Dual AMD 64 K2885 and satan drives
by Alan Gray 19 Dec '03

19 Dec '03

Thanks everyone for your help with my attempts to get the SATA drives working. Got the kernel all compiled, all modules built and installed, added an entry in /boot/grub/menu.lst, rebooted and the computer half booted then hung. Oh well, this was the last roll of the dice to get sata(n) drives working. Buying SCSI today. I'll wait until SUSE release the 2.6 kernel. For Jan, Had I read the email a bit more carefully, I would have noticed 'cd /usr/src/linux' (i was still in /usr/src) when using -p 1 > > > >I could insert all the differences by hand, but I'm gonna > make a mistake. > >Any help/abuse welcome. > > > > > > > > > Hi, > the patch program gave the right hint: > > Did you try > # cd /usr/src/linux > # patch -p 1 ... > > This should help (I think). > > Cheers, > Jan > >

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Memtest on S2885 dual opteron?
by Andrew Halliwell 19 Dec '03

19 Dec '03

A while back, someone said there was a version of the memtest program that'd been ported to AMD64... I don't suppose anyone has a link to this do they? So I can FINALLY see if it's linux itself that's having trouble, or the motherboard, with this RAM? Thanks.

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[suse-amd64] HDAMB 240s and 2.6.0
by Benjamin Hamilton 19 Dec '03

19 Dec '03

>Anybody tried 2.6.0 yet? > >-mcq I tried running 2.6.0 and it worked great under Suse 9.0 FTP editition except that I could not get the ethernet cards to work (Intel 10/100/1000 standard very common card or the Built in one on my HDAMB) so I guess I'm missing a patch or else I have to wait yet again for a BIOS update. If you do have a HDAMB I've found that to get Linux to work at all you do need the 1.05 BIOS but I was pleased to get Suse 9.0 over FTP for free I guess I can wait for 2.6.0 but I'd sure like it to work with my nics. Also I tested my board with 2 sticks of pc 2700 registered and both processors and I got 3.5G per second memory bandwidth with A1 and B1 slots filled (for a total of 128 bit bandwidth) instead of 4.0G per second for a single processor which is ok and seems fast with 240s but I sure wish I had gotten the k8w for both channels of memory to each cpu and real NUMA. Also I haven't tried putting in 2 more Dimms because of cost and I hear that it wouldn't make much of a difference if at all and it might be slower even. Anyone else out there running this config. I've seen some people getting like over 4.0G per second between two processors but with high end and expensive opterons on the MSI and HDAMB type boards. Also I just saw a review of the quads that get 9G per second total its not 16G but still 9Gig isn't too shabby! Cheers Ben _________________________________________________________________ Its our best dial-up Internet access offer: 6 months @$9.95/month. Get it now! http://join.msn.com/?page=dept/dialup

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