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Re: [opensuse] openSUSE packagers
by Pascal Bleser 13 Oct '05

13 Oct '05

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Simon Crute wrote: > On Tuesday 11 October 2005 06:19, Pascal Bleser wrote: >> Because that's just not true at all. Most Redhat/Fedora/Mandriva/whatever >> RPMs won't work on SUSE Linux, because each distribution has its own >> idiosyncrasies about where to install certain files (*), the names of the >> libraries (dependencies) (**), the available versions of libraries >> (dependencies) (***), how to configure and run daemons (****), etc... ... > Tell me about it !! > I've managed to port the mythTV PRMs from redhat to suse9.3, (and nearly 10) > and I'm while I'm sure they're not pretty, they seem to work OK. I'm > interested in helping out with Myth related stuff (and other things) when I > have the time. If you want to, I can have a look at the spec file. Or you could just post the .spec file on the opensuse-packaging list and have a few people give you feedback about it ;) > Interestingly, the packer for myth on atrpms is very interested in providing > suse RPMs too. And it looks like (at least with myth) once you diff the spec Yes, there are interested people, definately. Some folks at RPMforge are as well, especially Dag Wieers (he runs this very small, unknown package repository with Fedora RPMs: http://dag.wieers.com/home-made/apt/ (yes, that's 38000 packages for 2200 projects)). > files, the same diff will keep on working. At least when there's only minor > version changes. :-) We can make a .spec file that works on both and which detects at build time whether it's on SUSE Linux or whatever, and makes appropriate choices. cheers - -- -o) Pascal Bleser http://linux01.gwdg.de/~pbleser/ /\\ <pascal.bleser(a)skynet.be> <guru(a)unixtech.be> _\_v The more things change, the more they stay insane. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.0 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFDTfXsr3NMWliFcXcRAtTrAKCJD+aIu51ACxxtFPZw4h5+VQ4ORwCfTWdu 9B0BLs8CWFGMKTLyvnY51yU= =7nhe -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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A presentation and a sugestion
by Guillermo Ballester Valor 11 Oct '05

11 Oct '05

Hello, I'm Guillermo Ballester Valor. I began many time ago to write my own rpms (for suse distro). First it was for fun, then I asked me whether those rpm could be useful for others and so I create my own apt repository. This was first hosted in my own home computer. Because I built many popular rpms ( amsn, amule ...) my narrow ADSL bandwith began to be saturated and I asked for help in the suse list. Hapily, I receive help from two persons, one was Radu Voicu who is mirroring my repo at ftp://ftp.ploiesti.rdsnet.ro/pub/mirrors/ftp.oxixares.com/rpms and the other was the team Richard Boss /Eberhard Moenkeberg who offered me the possibitlty to create a repo in gwdg.de site. And 'suser-gbv' repos start its life. I would like to build rpms for X86_64 but I can't at the moment because I haven't access to a x86_64 system. I have planned to buy one many times but always found other better (and urgent) way to spend the money, you know. At this point, I'm wondering whether SuSE/Nowell can give access to some suser's to build the rpms in any of its machines. I'm not sure about the posibility to do that without root access, but I would be a big help for some of packager guys (as me). I'm not suggesting a compilation farm, which is oriented to the development. I'm meaning some rpm-builder machines. This would have also the advantage to build in machines with standard configuration/packages in it. What do you think? Guillermo -- Guillermo Ballester Valor gbv(a)oxixares.com Ogijares, Granada SPAIN Public GPG KEY http://www.oxixares.com/~gbv/pubgpg.html #################################################### See World Weather Navigator at http://www.ogimet.com ####################################################

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CommonC++ vs commoncpp2
by Richard Bos 11 Oct '05

11 Oct '05

I just discovered that suse included CommonC++ instead of commoncpp2. The latter is the successor of the former. The package is included for the SIP client Twinkle. As a new version of Twinkle has been released I encountered a dependency problem. My spec file tells me, to use commoncpp2 iso CommonC++. Is there any reason that suse included CommonC++? How to deal with this one (of course I can open a bug report, but perhaps there is new way now we have opensuse and 10.1 in development). ps: commoncpp2 and friends have been build and will be available via the apt repository. -- Richard

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Smart package manager: call for testers
by Pascal Bleser 09 Oct '05

09 Oct '05

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hi fellow packagers Maybe you've run into smart already: http://smartpm.org It's a multi-backend, multi-format package installer, very similar to y2pmsh, apt{-get,-shell} and yum. Completely written in Python (and, hence, doesn't require apt or yum to be installed - it does need RPM though). It currently supports yum and apt repositories (no YaST2 (yet?)). Written by Gustavo Niemeyer, who maintained apt-rpm. It's definately the tool that will replace apt (and maybe even yum) once it is stable. I maintain SUSE RPMs (10.0 => 9.0) for it, so if you're willing to give it a try: http://linux01.gwdg.de/~pbleser/rpm-navigation.php?cat=System/smart/ http://ftp4.gwdg.de/pub/linux/misc/suser-guru/rpm/packages/System/smart/ (latest smart 0.40 (released today) will be available there tomorrow morning (GMT+1)) x86_64 builds kindly provided by Detlef Reichelt (member of the Packman team) in his repository: http://ftp4.gwdg.de/pub/linux/misc/suser-drcux/ (SUSE 10.0 and 9.3) It's still work in progress, although it works for me (tm) ;) Make sure to submit bugs to Gustavo (bugtracker on smartpm.org) and me, especially if you suspect packaging issues. He's very reactive and provides patches really quickly. Actually he's employed to work full-time on smart, as he was previously at Connectiva. Generally speaking, if you use it, please submit your feedback over here as well, I think it could be interesting for everyone. It comes preconfigured with my "guru" and packman repositories, but that's something I inject into my smart RPM package, which means I can add others as well. It also has a simple but nice GTK2 GUI (requires python-gtk), almost exactly looking like synaptic. Definately worth trying and improving. There don't seem to be many testers on SUSE just yet (even looks like I'm the only one ;)). I prefer to submit this on the packager list at the moment, but I'll make a call for testers on the main list later on. And once it is stable, I'm sure we'll find someone who's willing to implement a YaST2 repository backend ;) cheers - -- -o) Pascal Bleser http://linux01.gwdg.de/~pbleser/ /\\ <pascal.bleser(a)skynet.be> <guru(a)unixtech.be> _\_v The more things change, the more they stay insane. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.0 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFDREuor3NMWliFcXcRAl5HAJ4lrInPUqM0g3njjXnRQW/GctqBLQCfVbEK fNrTPiBolqm0IhlKdu8hgHA= =BXg0 -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Repositories
by houghi 08 Oct '05

08 Oct '05

This is already posted on the main list, but perhaps it drowns there. Sitution is that people (three thus far) are unable to install anything from the software available on mirrors or anywhere else, or see the wrong info. I have added ftp://ftp.gwdg.de/pub/opensuse/distribution/SL-10.0-OSS/inst-source/ as source. I want to install k3b-arts (Tried other packages as well) wich is available at ftp://ftp.gwdg.de/pub/opensuse/distribution/SL-10.0-OSS/inst-source/suse/i586/k3b-arts-0.12.3-9.i586.rpm I so a search and am unable to see it. Somebody else tried opensp-devel and also nothing and yet another who can not find the correct packages on Packman. Not sure if this is related, but I first want to know if anything is up, or should I just file a bug? houghi -- Quote correct (NL) http://www.briachons.org/art/quote/ Zitiere richtig (DE) http://www.afaik.de/usenet/faq/zitieren Quote correctly (EN) http://www.netmeister.org/news/learn2quote.html

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Keeping WiKi up to date
by houghi 04 Oct '05

04 Oct '05

I have not looked if the page http://www.opensuse.org/Additional_YaST_Package_Repositories is up to date. It would be nice if everybody who has a repository will once in a while look at http://www.opensuse.org/Additional_YaST_Package_Repositories and see if their part is up to date. e.g. 10.1 added, 10.0-betaX removed e.g. the SUPER info seems not to be correct. Again, could be that all the rest is correct. Just a reminder to ask everybody to just look at their own data. Thanks for this and all the rest you are doing for the SUSE comunity. houghi -- Quote correct (NL) http://www.briachons.org/art/quote/ Zitiere richtig (DE) http://www.afaik.de/usenet/faq/zitieren Quote correctly (EN) http://www.netmeister.org/news/learn2quote.html

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spec file templates ?
by Adrian Schroeter 28 Sep '05

28 Sep '05

Hi, I thought about to create a svn repo for spec file templates. One for KDE, Gnome, perl, apache module or whatever. Is there some interest that we should create one or are you fine with the solution to have these in the wiki ? bye adrian -- Adrian Schroeter SuSE AG, Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nuernberg, Germany email: adrian(a)suse.de

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Abiword/GIMP updates
by James Ogley 27 Sep '05

27 Sep '05

Just for people's information, I've updated the following today in the usr-local-bin repo: * abiword [i586/i686] - abiword - abiword-plugins-impexp - abiword-plugins-tools - abiword-clipart * abiword-beta [i586/i686] - abiword-beta - abiword-beta-plugins-impexp - abiword-beta-plugins-tools - abiword-beta-clipart * gimp-beta [i586/i686] - gimp-beta - gimp-beta-devel * ots [i586/i686] - ots - ots-devel James -- James Ogley james(a)usr-local-bin.org Packages for SUSE: http://usr-local-bin.org/rpms Make Poverty History: http://makepovertyhistory.org

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Test 2
by Martin Mewes 27 Sep '05

27 Sep '05

Jetzt klappt das auch mit mbox.mewes.tv Klasse :-) bis dahin/kind regards Martin Mewes -- Welche Mailingliste zu welchem Linux? suse-linux(a)suse.com -> SuSE Linux debian-user-german(a)lists.debian.org -> Debian GNU/Linux linux-kernel(a)vger.kernel.org -> Linux Kernel

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TEST
by Martin Mewes 27 Sep '05

27 Sep '05

bis dahin/kind regards Martin Mewes -- Die Hamburger Linux User Group (HHLUG) erreicht ihr ... ... WWW: http://www.hhlug.de/ ... ML : http://mlists.hhlug.de/mailman/listinfo/linux-l

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