January 2004 - openSUSE AMD64 - openSUSE Mailing Lists

memtest for x86-64
by Jyh-Shyong Ho 17 Jan '04

17 Jan '04

Hi, Is there a memtest (memory test) utility available for AMD64 (x86-64) system? Jyh-Shyong Ho, Ph.D. Research Scientist National Center for High-Performance Computing Hsinchu, Taiwan, ROC

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latest kernel update
by Willibald Krenn 16 Jan '04

16 Jan '04

Hello! I've got just one quick question: Why doesn't the latest SuSE 9.0 kernel update include the AMD64 patch published here in the list by Andi Kleen? (In the file linux/include/asm-x86_64/desc.h ) Thanks, Willibald Krenn

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Shuttle AN50R Beta BIOS
by Willibald Krenn 16 Jan '04

16 Jan '04

Hi! Yesterday I received a Beta BIOS from Shuttle that fixes the CPU erratum #93 (causes the problems with USB legacy support ...). If anyone wants to give this Beta-BIOS a try, just drop me a note and I'll send it. AN50S022 Checksum : A100 Date: 01/14/2004 1. Patch Errata 93 Write method fail (This errata#93 only for K8 Rev.C0)

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AMD64 CD-only 64bit system ?
by wlindenbauer＠t-online.de 16 Jan '04

16 Jan '04

Hello again, is there any SUSE (or Knoppix) 64bit CDROM-only Linux system available ? I like to use it for testing an AMD64-Notebook before I buy it. Best regards Wigbert

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-171 iommu corruption reintroduced?
by John McCorquodale 16 Jan '04

16 Jan '04

I just grabbed -171 and gave it a whirl on my S2885. It seems to reintroduce the IOMMU optimization that was problematic on 3ware and QLogic cards a while back and fixed in -156 (all trace of the changes to kernel/pci-gart.c relating to the 'nofullflush' option have disappeared). Booting -171 sees all sorts of DMA corruption doing things like paging in libc, then it eats my / as soon as it writes the superblock out (wrong). Fun! Am I mistaken, or is there something more recent/better than -171 floating around out there? -mcq

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Re: [suse-amd64] Any success with Tyan Thunder K8W (s2885) ?
by Kevin_Gassiot＠veritasdgc.com 14 Jan '04

14 Jan '04

I was going off of what their User's Manual says.... I just looked at their website, however, and in one place it says that it supports DDR400, and in another place, it still says PC2700, so who knows :) As far as the Nvidia drivers, it has always seemed to work on systems with 4 GB or less, as the mtrr problem doesn't show up until you start getting over that 32 bit boundary. And, it gets worse, the more memory you have. I have run on single processor Asus boards and an AMD SOLO board, and the drivers fly. Unfortunately, on my TYAN system with 8 GB of memory, the X server has always been very unstable, or just flat out didn't work. I just got some new mtrr.c code on Friday afternoon that is supposed to fix this problem, and I am waiting for the SUSE YOU server to update my system as we speak, so I can build a kernel with the latest stuff, and then build one with the new mtrr code.... Kevin Gassiot Advanced Systems Group Visualization Systems Specialist Veritas DGC 10300 Town Park Dr. Houston, Texas 77072 832-351-8978 kevin_gassiot(a)veritasdgc.com |---------+---------------------------> | | Darrell Shively | | | <sused(a)mucus.com| | | > | | | | | | 01/14/2004 09:39| | | AM | | | | |---------+---------------------------> >---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------| | | | To: Kevin_Gassiot(a)veritasdgc.com, "Pettini, Don" <don(a)healthmetrics.org> | | cc: "John McCorquodale" <mcq(a)cacr.caltech.edu>, suse-amd64(a)suse.com, "Darrell Shively" <sused(a)mucus.com>| | Subject: Re: [suse-amd64] Any success with Tyan Thunder K8W (s2885) ? | >---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------| Hi Kevin: Thank you for responding. On Wednesday 14 January 2004 06:48, Kevin_Gassiot(a)veritasdgc.com wrote: > Actually, the Tyan S2885 doesn't support DDR400 (PC3200) memory. It only > supports PC2700/PC2100/PC1600 DIMMS, so using the DDR400 could be a big > part of your problem. My experiences would certainly seem to support that, but Tyan seems to disagree. Please see the bottom of: http://www.tyan.com/support/html/memory_s2885.html Nonetheless, you may still be correct. Note that they only list two recommended brands of DDR400, but 12 DDR333 makers. I would be very curious if *anyone* has gotten DDR400 to work in this motherboard. > I have had a TYAN S2885 board for several months now > (even a prerelease board), and the main problem I have had is with the AGP > graphics. There is a lot of work going on to get the AGP graphics/Nvidia > drivers working correctly on this board, as far as BIOS updates to put > proper values in the MTRRs, new drivers, kernel patches, etc.. There is a > kernel bug in the mtrr code that makes the system broken with over 4 GB of > memory. Ironically, the nvidia drivers seem tp work fine for me. Of course, I only have 2GB or RAM. I didn't benchmark them but they sure *look* fast. gears (at it's default window size) yields ~9375 FPS. > Kevin Gassiot > Advanced Systems Group > Visualization Systems Specialist Thanks for the advice, - Darrell > > > Veritas DGC > 10300 Town Park Dr. > Houston, Texas 77072 > 832-351-8978 > kevin_gassiot(a)veritasdgc.com > > |---------+---------------------------> > | > | | "Pettini, Don" | > | | <don@healthmetri| > | | cs.org> | > | | > | | 01/14/2004 08:17| > | | AM | > | > |---------+---------------------------> > | > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >---------------------------------------------| > > > | To: "Darrell Shively" <sused(a)mucus.com>, "John > | McCorquodale" <mcq(a)cacr.caltech.edu> | cc: > | <suse-amd64(a)suse.com> > | | Subject: RE: [suse-amd64] Any success > | with Tyan Thunder K8W (s2885) ? > | | > | > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >---------------------------------------------| > > Hi, > > I second the swap of memory to DDR333, if you look at a couple > of tests that have been performed, the difference DDR333 to DDR400 is a > couple of percent depending on what benchmark. Can you try it with > DDR33 4x256MB Registered ECC, two in each processors memory slots? I > have this config(but 4x512MB), all PCI slots full supporting 2TB of > RAID5 and RAID10 storage and the system is rock solid. There are known > problems with older chip revisions handling DDR400 in the Opteron > Processor forums, usually on 244 veriants though. > > Don > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Darrell Shively [mailto:sused@mucus.com] > > Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2004 2:28 AM > > To: John McCorquodale > > Cc: suse-amd64(a)suse.com > > Subject: Re: [suse-amd64] Any success with Tyan Thunder K8W (s2885) ? > > > > On Tuesday 13 January 2004 20:45, John McCorquodale wrote: > > > [...] > > > I've got one going here and it's rock solid. AGP is a little > > > sluggish, but I'm working on that with Tyan and hope to > > > > send a success > > > > > story/howto to the SuSE list at some time soon. I have had SATA > > > working briefly but am not using the onboard at the moment > > > > (I have a > > > > > 3ware 8506 SATA raid card instead). > > > > Well, at least now I know it is possible. > > > > > My memory is 1GB ECC registered DDR333 directly from dallas memory, > > > and I've got 8GB installed with good results on my pair of 246s. > > > > Interesting: you are using 246's but DDR333 memory? I am > > using DDR400, which may be part of the problem. May I ask if > > there was any technical reason for going with the 333Mhz parts? > > > > > Note that you MUST be using the suse -156 or later 2.4.21 kernel on > > > that board or there are huge problems. Start with that if > > > > you're not > > > > > there yet and see how far that gets ya. > > > > A good suggestion. I just downloaded & upgraded but alas it > > made no difference. I am still suspicious of an > > incompatability between this motherboard and memory. A > > helpful soul in another forum posted this link which I found > > interesting: > > > > http://www.tomshardware.com/motherboard/20040112/index.html > > > > > Good luck! > > > > > > -mcq > > > > Thanks - think I need it > > - Darrell > > -- > > sused(a)mucus.com "Perfect! ....what am I doing?" > > -- Washu > > > > -- > > Check the List-Unsubscribe header to unsubscribe For > > additional commands, email: suse-amd64-help(a)suse.com -- sused(a)mucus.com "Perfect! ....what am I doing?" -- Washu

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RE: [suse-amd64] Any success with Tyan Thunder K8W (s2885) ?
by Kevin_Gassiot＠veritasdgc.com 14 Jan '04

14 Jan '04

Actually, the Tyan S2885 doesn't support DDR400 (PC3200) memory. It only supports PC2700/PC2100/PC1600 DIMMS, so using the DDR400 could be a big part of your problem. I have had a TYAN S2885 board for several months now (even a prerelease board), and the main problem I have had is with the AGP graphics. There is a lot of work going on to get the AGP graphics/Nvidia drivers working correctly on this board, as far as BIOS updates to put proper values in the MTRRs, new drivers, kernel patches, etc.. There is a kernel bug in the mtrr code that makes the system broken with over 4 GB of memory. Kevin Gassiot Advanced Systems Group Visualization Systems Specialist Veritas DGC 10300 Town Park Dr. Houston, Texas 77072 832-351-8978 kevin_gassiot(a)veritasdgc.com |---------+---------------------------> | | "Pettini, Don" | | | <don@healthmetri| | | cs.org> | | | | | | 01/14/2004 08:17| | | AM | | | | |---------+---------------------------> >---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------| | | | To: "Darrell Shively" <sused(a)mucus.com>, "John McCorquodale" <mcq(a)cacr.caltech.edu> | | cc: <suse-amd64(a)suse.com> | | Subject: RE: [suse-amd64] Any success with Tyan Thunder K8W (s2885) ? | >---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------| Hi, I second the swap of memory to DDR333, if you look at a couple of tests that have been performed, the difference DDR333 to DDR400 is a couple of percent depending on what benchmark. Can you try it with DDR33 4x256MB Registered ECC, two in each processors memory slots? I have this config(but 4x512MB), all PCI slots full supporting 2TB of RAID5 and RAID10 storage and the system is rock solid. There are known problems with older chip revisions handling DDR400 in the Opteron Processor forums, usually on 244 veriants though. Don > -----Original Message----- > From: Darrell Shively [mailto:sused@mucus.com] > Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2004 2:28 AM > To: John McCorquodale > Cc: suse-amd64(a)suse.com > Subject: Re: [suse-amd64] Any success with Tyan Thunder K8W (s2885) ? > > On Tuesday 13 January 2004 20:45, John McCorquodale wrote: > > [...] > > I've got one going here and it's rock solid. AGP is a little > > sluggish, but I'm working on that with Tyan and hope to > send a success > > story/howto to the SuSE list at some time soon. I have had SATA > > working briefly but am not using the onboard at the moment > (I have a > > 3ware 8506 SATA raid card instead). > > Well, at least now I know it is possible. > > > My memory is 1GB ECC registered DDR333 directly from dallas memory, > > and I've got 8GB installed with good results on my pair of 246s. > > Interesting: you are using 246's but DDR333 memory? I am > using DDR400, which may be part of the problem. May I ask if > there was any technical reason for going with the 333Mhz parts? > > > Note that you MUST be using the suse -156 or later 2.4.21 kernel on > > that board or there are huge problems. Start with that if > you're not > > there yet and see how far that gets ya. > > A good suggestion. I just downloaded & upgraded but alas it > made no difference. I am still suspicious of an > incompatability between this motherboard and memory. A > helpful soul in another forum posted this link which I found > interesting: > > http://www.tomshardware.com/motherboard/20040112/index.html > > > Good luck! > > > > -mcq > > Thanks - think I need it > - Darrell > -- > sused(a)mucus.com "Perfect! ....what am I doing?" > -- Washu > > -- > Check the List-Unsubscribe header to unsubscribe For > additional commands, email: suse-amd64-help(a)suse.com > > > -- Check the List-Unsubscribe header to unsubscribe For additional commands, email: suse-amd64-help(a)suse.com

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Re: [suse-amd64] Any success with Tyan Thunder K8W (s2885) ?
by Kevin_Gassiot＠veritasdgc.com 14 Jan '04

14 Jan '04

So I am curious about any problems that you have had with your IWILL board. I have one of those also, and after doing the install from DVD, when the system goes to do the inital boot, the kernel immediately crashes. I have never been able to get this board to boot. I took the working system disk out of my TYAN based system, and put it into the IWILL system, and get the same thing. The IWILL board has 2 246's and 4 GB of memory in it.... It is kind of on the back burner, waiting on the TYAN board to work correctly, but I would like to get it working. I may have to swap out the cpus or memory to make sure that is not what is killing it.... Kevin Gassiot Advanced Systems Group Visualization Systems Specialist Veritas DGC 10300 Town Park Dr. Houston, Texas 77072 832-351-8978 kevin_gassiot(a)veritasdgc.com |---------+---------------------------> | | John | | | McCorquodale | | | <mcq(a)cacr.caltec| | | h.edu> | | | | | | 01/14/2004 08:56| | | AM | | | | |---------+---------------------------> >---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------| | | | To: Kevin_Gassiot(a)veritasdgc.com | | cc: "Pettini, Don" <don(a)healthmetrics.org>, John McCorquodale <mcq(a)cacr.caltech.edu>, | | suse-amd64(a)suse.com, Darrell Shively <sused(a)mucus.com> | | Subject: Re: [suse-amd64] Any success with Tyan Thunder K8W (s2885) ? | >---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------| > Actually, the Tyan S2885 doesn't support DDR400 (PC3200) memory. It only > supports PC2700/PC2100/PC1600 DIMMS, so using the DDR400 could be a big > part of your problem. I have had a TYAN S2885 board for several months now > (even a prerelease board), and the main problem I have had is with the AGP > graphics. There is a lot of work going on to get the AGP graphics/Nvidia > drivers working correctly on this board, as far as BIOS updates to put > proper values in the MTRRs, new drivers, kernel patches, etc.. There is a > kernel bug in the mtrr code that makes the system broken with over 4 GB of > memory. Actually, actually, all of the above is now fixed except for the AGP write bandwidth issue, which peaks at about 275MB/s for 4x and 335 MB/s for 8x for as-yet unknown reasons. Tyan asked for my benchmarks the other day and for tips on installing SuSE and a -156 kernel, so I believe they may be taking a look. The BIOS I'm running on the 2885 is the '0.01b' BIOS here (don't ask why the numbering of what appears to be an improvement appears to break sequence back to zero): ftp://ftp.tyan.com/Chipset_AMD/K8/2885BIOS/ And there's an official beta here that doesn't include the "memory hole" option which gets you your full N GB of memory available even with a big AGP aperture: http://www.tyan.com/support/html/bios_support.html#beta These also "unlock" the HT clock frequency, so you can easily bump to 800 MHz and see those AMD signalling errata in action. :) I have managed to get everything on the board to work well except the lmsensors support (which I haven't yet tried) and good AGP bandwidth. The AGP problem appears to be on Tyan's radar now and I verified that it works fine on another 8151-carrying board (the Iwill DK8X) so I'm hopeful that a solution will manifest. When it does, I'll post a complete howto for the S2885. -mcq

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RE: [suse-amd64] Any success with Tyan Thunder K8W (s2885) ?
by Pettini, Don 14 Jan '04

14 Jan '04

Hi, I second the swap of memory to DDR333, if you look at a couple of tests that have been performed, the difference DDR333 to DDR400 is a couple of percent depending on what benchmark. Can you try it with DDR33 4x256MB Registered ECC, two in each processors memory slots? I have this config(but 4x512MB), all PCI slots full supporting 2TB of RAID5 and RAID10 storage and the system is rock solid. There are known problems with older chip revisions handling DDR400 in the Opteron Processor forums, usually on 244 veriants though. Don > -----Original Message----- > From: Darrell Shively [mailto:sused@mucus.com] > Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2004 2:28 AM > To: John McCorquodale > Cc: suse-amd64(a)suse.com > Subject: Re: [suse-amd64] Any success with Tyan Thunder K8W (s2885) ? > > On Tuesday 13 January 2004 20:45, John McCorquodale wrote: > > [...] > > I've got one going here and it's rock solid. AGP is a little > > sluggish, but I'm working on that with Tyan and hope to > send a success > > story/howto to the SuSE list at some time soon. I have had SATA > > working briefly but am not using the onboard at the moment > (I have a > > 3ware 8506 SATA raid card instead). > > Well, at least now I know it is possible. > > > My memory is 1GB ECC registered DDR333 directly from dallas memory, > > and I've got 8GB installed with good results on my pair of 246s. > > Interesting: you are using 246's but DDR333 memory? I am > using DDR400, which may be part of the problem. May I ask if > there was any technical reason for going with the 333Mhz parts? > > > Note that you MUST be using the suse -156 or later 2.4.21 kernel on > > that board or there are huge problems. Start with that if > you're not > > there yet and see how far that gets ya. > > A good suggestion. I just downloaded & upgraded but alas it > made no difference. I am still suspicious of an > incompatability between this motherboard and memory. A > helpful soul in another forum posted this link which I found > interesting: > > http://www.tomshardware.com/motherboard/20040112/index.html > > > Good luck! > > > > -mcq > > Thanks - think I need it > - Darrell > -- > sused(a)mucus.com "Perfect! ....what am I doing?" > -- Washu > > -- > Check the List-Unsubscribe header to unsubscribe For > additional commands, email: suse-amd64-help(a)suse.com > > >

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SuSE v9 64 bit for AMD - Serial ATA (VT8237) solution
by SuSE9AMD64 14 Jan '04

14 Jan '04

Hi, In many threads one describes the problems they have with SuSE v9 64 bit for AMD with Serial ATA drives. These drives are not recognised. In my case I have an ASUS SK8V mainboard with K8T800 and VT8237 chipset. The problem is that the module libata isn't loaded at boottime, so Serial ATA controllers will not be recognized. I've created a new DVD that supports Serial ATA by changing the contents of it's boot directory and a 'patch' to be installed after the normal installation. The 'patch' consists of a kernel that supports Serial ATA. This kernel can be updated as normal as long as the contents of /etc/sysconfig/kernel aren't changed according to the INITRD_MODULES parameter. The modules named in the string should be included in a newly created initrd. If anyone wants to download the files to make you own DVD just let me know, and I'll send you the information needed to download the files from my FTP-server. Peter

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