November 2003 - openSUSE AMD64 - openSUSE Mailing Lists

Glitch in SLES8 United Linux SP3
by Stephen Williams 12 Nov '03

12 Nov '03

(OK, I'm all bug reports. Hate me yet?-) I installed UnitedLinux SP3, and found one little bit of a glitch. An NFS client (a RedHat 7.3 pentium) had trouble talking to the updated SLES8 Opteron system. The network chip (in an HDAMB system) is a: 02:06.0 Ethernet controller: Broadcom Corporation NetXtreme BCM5702 Gigabit Ethernet (rev 02) Writes by the i386 system to an NFS directory on the SLES8 system tended to get stuck, with the i386 system apparently sending tons of fragments that the SLES8 system was rejecting. (Unfortunately, I didn't save a tcpdump log.) Revering to k_smp-2.4.19-256 fixed the problem and that is where I set now. -- Steve Williams "The woods are lovely, dark and deep. steve at icarus.com But I have promises to keep, http://www.icarus.com and lines to code before I sleep, http://www.picturel.com And lines to code before I sleep."

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RE: [suse-amd64] Disappointing 9.0 Pro AMD64 DVD install
by marc.miller＠amd.com 12 Nov '03

12 Nov '03

Pardon me if I'm stating the obvious, but when I opened my box of SUSE LINUX 9.0 64-bit, the DVD was packaged upside-down. Unless you turn it over as you insert it into the DVD drive, the "side 2" label will be up and your computer will be unable to boot the source code. Are you quite certain that you are booting from the correct side of the DVD (label "side 1" faced up)? -----Original Message----- From: David Carter [mailto:dcarter@opnet.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2003 8:02 AM To: Andreas Jaeger Cc: SUSE Linux; suse-amd64(a)suse.com Subject: Re: [suse-amd64] Disappointing 9.0 Pro AMD64 DVD install On Wed, 2003-11-12 at 10:46, Andreas Jaeger wrote: > David Carter <dcarter(a)opnet.com> writes: > > > System config info is attached. > > Thanks, I looked through it and couldn't find anything wrong - but at > this point you have a working system, so this might be the reason. > > > Short form: > > Tyan S2880 with onboard video > > That one works fine, we have tested it. > > > 1xIDE used as secondary drive, W*@#$%^s operating system on this one. > > 1xSATA used as boot drive, SIIG SATA controller as the onboard Promise > > controller has issues > > The onboard Promise does not work and we have not tested the SIIG > driver. Maybe some confusion because of these two? I'll check that > we do testing in similar environments for 9.1. > > Looking at Linux I noticed that the SATA drive is /dev/hde and the IDE > is /dev/hda. That different numbering might be a problem... This is probably going to be a common setup, as I'm using an external card for SATA, and on board I/O for regular IDE (including the DVD). The one combo I never tried was the DVD on /dev/hda. I don't think this should make a difference, but I'll try it over the next couple of days and see... > > > Samsung SM-352B/T806 CD-R/RW-DVD (that's with the latest firmware) > > Andreas -- --------------------------------- David Carter <mailto:dcarter@opnet.com> Senior Modeling Engineer OPNET Technologies, Inc. <http://www.opnet.com/> phone 240.497.3000 x2743 ==================================================== Register for OPNET's Online Technology Workshops http://www.opnet.com/TechWorkshops/ ====================================================

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Re: [suse-amd64] Disappointing 9.0 Pro AMD64 DVD install
by Andreas Jaeger 12 Nov '03

12 Nov '03

David Carter <dcarter(a)opnet.com> writes: > System config info is attached. Thanks, I looked through it and couldn't find anything wrong - but at this point you have a working system, so this might be the reason. > Short form: > Tyan S2880 with onboard video That one works fine, we have tested it. > 1xIDE used as secondary drive, W*@#$%^s operating system on this one. > 1xSATA used as boot drive, SIIG SATA controller as the onboard Promise > controller has issues The onboard Promise does not work and we have not tested the SIIG driver. Maybe some confusion because of these two? I'll check that we do testing in similar environments for 9.1. Looking at Linux I noticed that the SATA drive is /dev/hde and the IDE is /dev/hda. That different numbering might be a problem... > Samsung SM-352B/T806 CD-R/RW-DVD (that's with the latest firmware) Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger, aj(a)suse.de, http://www.suse.de/~aj SuSE Linux AG, Deutschherrnstr. 15-19, 90429 Nürnberg, Germany GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126

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Disappointing 9.0 Pro AMD64 DVD install
by David Carter 12 Nov '03

12 Nov '03

Well folks, I've been around Linux since the 0.98 kernel days and I've never had a more frustrating install. I've noticed from the lists that I'm not alone, with a lot of suggestions ranging from checking the media to castrating chickens under a full moon, but no one solution seems sufficient. I've tried manually specifying which drive was the cdrom, removing the CD drive from the same IDE chain, verifying the media, changing the drivers, and even doing an FTP install, all of which claimed that I had no packages available for installation. Finally I had to create a partition, copy from the DVD onto it (when will it be possible to install without installing windows first? I tried it from rescue mode and that didn't work either!), and installing from it. All in all I spent about 20 hours getting this loaded. My tech support case is still pending. And have I mentioned how useful the FAQ's are? If this OS is ever to catch on like it can and should, there need to be a couple of things happen: 1. When you ship only on DVD, the DVD install should work. Period. This wasn't a download.. I paid money for it. The lists suggest that this prolem has been around for a while, so the support should be better. 2. When you have as many problems with a DVD install as this list indicates, it's a good idea to condense these suggestions into an FAQ or a knowledge base entry. As of 4 this morning it wasn't. With the demise of consumer Red Hat, there's a window of opportunity open here... especially in the AMD64 arena. I plan on using the product for a while, but that will change if future experiences are like this one. And I still don't know what the problem actually was... Dave

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SLES8 vs. Microtech USB Cameramate
by Stephen Williams 11 Nov '03

11 Nov '03

I have SLES8 with the latest (precompiled) kernel updates on an AMD64 (HDAMB) system. I also have a Microtech USB Cameramate compact flash/smart card reader. It appears that it does not work. It recognizes it as a usb-storage device, but that's it. It *appears* that the Microtech CompactFlash (DPCM) support is not enabled in the kernel, but I cannot find a kernel compile .config file to check. (Also, I'd *rather* stick with mainstread kernel binaries if I can. Don't really want to o off in a tangent and confuse the Yast2 updates.) -- Steve Williams "The woods are lovely, dark and deep. steve at icarus.com But I have promises to keep, http://www.icarus.com and lines to code before I sleep, http://www.picturel.com And lines to code before I sleep."

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RE: [suse-amd64] Compatable hardware for SuSE 9.0 AMD64 version
by Emile van Mierlo 10 Nov '03

10 Nov '03

> I've installed the SuSE 9.0 2 days ago on 'Tyan Tiger K8W (S2875) dual > Opteron' with Adaptec SCSI, Plextor 708 DVD, NikkonScanner and so on. Does that Plextor PX-708A DVD/CD Recorder fully work as well? Emile

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4-way opteron boards
by Mark Horton 10 Nov '03

10 Nov '03

I apologize since this is off topic but I've seen a few references to 4-way opteron boards on this mailing list. I've also seen some indications that AMD has a 4-way board called 'Quartet'. Does anyone know how to purchase this board? I have looked around the net extensively and I've seen fully built systems. For instance, Penguin Computing has a 4P system for less than $9,000 (US). Not a bad price but still a little bit high since I really only need the motherboard. Mark

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SK8N S-ATA in 32-bit mode
by michael12＠mindspring.com 10 Nov '03

10 Nov '03

Hi all, After reading the digest of emails concerning the S-ATA drivers in 64-bit mode, I have some questions whose answers I probably overlooked: If I install the standard (32-bit) version of Suse on my SK8N, will it recognize the S-ATA during the install? If not, will I be able to install drivers after the install to recognize and use the S-ATA drive? Thanks in advance, Michael White

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SuSE Linux AMD64 ver 9.
by Mark Morgan Adams 09 Nov '03

09 Nov '03

I have seen references to an amd64 version of SuSE Linux version 9 on DVD. Where can I get a copy? Thanks. Mark M. Adams. _________________________________________________________________ MSN Messenger with backgrounds, emoticons and more. http://www.msnmessenger-download.com/tracking/cdp_customize

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Re: [suse-amd64] Installation of SUSE 9.0 AMD 64 Version on latest motherboards
by John McCorquodale 09 Nov '03

09 Nov '03

> Did some testing for you. Running dga kills the driver, no two ways > about it. It doesn't, however, kill the machine. I can ssh in from > another machine, kill off X and restart X without any difficulties at > all. All you see in the screen are lines as though the display is out of > sync. I tried a few different things, dropping the color depth to 16 > bit, turning off the nvidia logo and it didn't make any difference. Yeah, this is exactly the same behavior I see on ATI cards as well. It seems to be something about that board. I'm still working on something that'll dump out the northbridge, 8131 and 8151 configuration registers so we can see how BIOS is setting things up and figure out what's going on. Whatever is causing the dga hang is probably related, but it's worth noting that my framebuffer code doesn't hang, it just becomes very slow. I haven't debugged into the X server yet to track the dga hang; it doesn't seem like a path likely to lead to a solution to my actual problem (bad agp throughput). > BTW, how did you get the figures you quoted for the AGP throughput ? (It > may have been using dga - but not an option here, even trying dga > > dga_test and then monitoring the file from the remote machine showing > nothing at all - definitely hung X.) I wrote a kernel module that maps the framebuffer, sets up write combining and sets AGP fast writes, then does a tight-loop microbenchmark. It's still available at: http://viz.cacr.caltech.edu/dl/fbtest-0.1.tar.bz2 If you're interested enough to grab it and try it, let me know! I'd love to hear that somebody has replicated my experiment. It's also worth noting that if Andi is correct the 8151 is behind the 8131, which means it's sitting on an 8-bit hypertransport link. There's an 8151 erratum where it hangs running HT at 800 MHz, so all the HT links in the S2885 are clocked at 600 MHz (except the Opteron-to-Opteron one, which runs at 800). What this means is that the maximum theoretical b/w to the AGP chip is 600*2 = 1.2GB/s. Subtracting 20% for PCI address transmission overhead, that leaves 960 MB/s theoretical maximum one should ever see to the 8151 on the S2885. That's less than AGP 4x peak b/w, so best case the board should only be thought of as AGP 3.5x, not the 8x that the AGP connector happens to signal at. I'd be totally happy if I could get even close to that out of the board, but at the moment the max I've been able to get is 270 MB/s on a AGP v2 card and about 320 MB/s on an AGP v3 card. This is with 2GB RAM installed and the Tyan v1.01 BIOS. If you install 8GB of RAM, your AGP performance will drop to about 10 MB/s and write-combining will fail because of some broken way BIOS sets things up (which I haven't finished figuring out yet; many hangs lie down that road). Based on favorable response from Tyan, I think I can get the 8GB thing fixed once I figure out how it is and how it ought to be. I still don't understand how AGP performance can be the ~ 300MB/s that it is, and figuring that out is a separate question. Feel free to volunteer crazy ideas. I'm only just getting into this whole chip configuration register thing, so everybody should continue telling me things I ought to already know, 'cause I probably don't. :) -mcq

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