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[opensuse-web] Re: [opensuse-factory] openQA
by agustin benito bethencourt 14 Oct '13

14 Oct '13

Hi Guido, > > > > Priviledge? > > > > Anybody can install an openQA V2 instance. We will provide help to those > > interested in doing so. Another option is to wait until upstream include > > some/all of the changes we made. You can also work on V2.1 > > No, as I wrote below I don't have the resources to run my own > instance and relied on openqa.opensuse.org. As pointed, then you will have to wait until the coordinators of the service provide a solution, which I think they already did[1]. We cannot provide any other solution for this Release. [1] http://openqa.opensuse.org/results/ Saludos -- Agustin Benito Bethencourt openSUSE Team Lead at SUSE abebe(a)suse.com

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[opensuse-web] Re: [opensuse-factory] openQA
by agustin benito bethencourt 14 Oct '13

14 Oct '13

Hi Guido, On Monday 14 October 2013 11:10:45 Guido Berhoerster wrote: > * agustin benito bethencourt <abebe(a)suse.com> [2013-10-14 10:46]: > > The openSUSE Team at SUSE do not maintain openqa.opensuse.org. It is run > > under Bernhard's coordination with a remarkable effort, by the way. > > > > We have developed some improvements in openQA in close communication with > > upstream (Bernhard). He is the one that will decides which improvements > > should be implemented and which don't in the openQA service. > > > > We developed the openQA V2 in the open and improved the installation to > > make it easier than it was. There is room for improvements though. > > Meanwhile, the openSUSE Team have a V2 instance internally to test the > > distro and the improvements done. > So what makes SUSE emplyees special to get this privilege? Priviledge? Anybody can install an openQA V2 instance. We will provide help to those interested in doing so. Another option is to wait until upstream include some/all of the changes we made. You can also work on V2.1 > I > maintain a whole desktop in openSUSE and openQA has been an very > important part of my workflow and I have contributed a bunch of > tests suited to my needs. And I simply do not have the resources > (i.e. bandwidth) to run an instance of my own. > Given that, would you please either mirror the results page to a > public server or provide those non-SUSE community members who > have a need for it access to the new instance? We do not touch openqa.opensuse.org so I have no info about why your workflow has changed. Maybe Bernhard is more qualified to provide you with a proper answer about this. Please ping him. Saludos -- Agustin Benito Bethencourt openSUSE Team Lead at SUSE abebe(a)suse.com

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[opensuse-web] Re: [opensuse-factory] openQA
by agustin benito bethencourt 14 Oct '13

14 Oct '13

Hi, On Friday 11 October 2013 13:29:52 Richard Brown wrote: > On 11 October 2013 08:33, Ludwig Nussel <ludwig.nussel(a)suse.de> wrote: > > Guido Berhoerster wrote: > >> why haven't there been any openQA runs on Factory and 13.1? At > >> Beta/RC time it is more important than ever and there are e.g. > >> problems net-installing the Xfce desktop post-Beta1 where openQA > >> would really be helpful. > > > > In spring the openSUSE team made a sprint to enhance openQA to make it > > even more useful for release testing. We mostly succeeded¹²³. > > Unfortunately we ran out of time to implement proper user managment. > > Since this new version allows interactive editing and rescheduling of > > tests in the web interface that is pretty much mandatory to run openQA > > in public though. So at the moment we have to run our release tests on a > > private instance unfortunately. That is a pity of course as we could > > really use more hands to evaluate and fix the test results. So we hope > > to be able to address this in the future. > > > > Meanwhile contributions are welcome nevertheless of course. > > Running your own instance should be rather easy if you have a > > sufficiently powerful machine. There's a tutorial in os-autoinst how to > > install openQA from packages[4]. > > > > cu > > Ludwig > > > > [1] https://github.com/openSUSE-Team/openQA, > > [2] https://github.com/openSUSE-Team/os-autoinst > > [3] https://build.opensuse.org/project/show/devel%3AopenQA > > [4] > > https://github.com/openSUSE-Team/os-autoinst/blob/master/doc/tutorial.pdf > > hmm, that is dreadfully disappointing > > I consider openQA an important community service, and it's sad to > think that it's no longer available to the community. As a regular > tester of openSUSE, I find it invaluable to have a reference to > compare a lot of my own tests against. If I no longer have that, my > ability to test openSUSE is going to be hindered. > > I appreciate the effort the openSUSE Team made to improve openQA, but > if the situation really is that the community cant use openQA at all > now unless they install it themselves, then I'm really not sure we can > call the current situation an 'improvement' The openSUSE Team at SUSE do not maintain openqa.opensuse.org. It is run under Bernhard's coordination with a remarkable effort, by the way. We have developed some improvements in openQA in close communication with upstream (Bernhard). He is the one that will decides which improvements should be implemented and which don't in the openQA service. We developed the openQA V2 in the open and improved the installation to make it easier than it was. There is room for improvements though. Meanwhile, the openSUSE Team have a V2 instance internally to test the distro and the improvements done. > > Given I cant see how the new openQA works, forgive me if this is a > stupid suggestion, but surely a public view of the results from openQA > wouldn't need any editing, rescheduling or user management.. can we > have that added/restored to openQA and have the openSUSE openQA > instance restored as a community service as soon as possible? If we talk about the development, we have worked in the open, as expected. If you talk about the service, we do not intend to provide an alternative service of openQA for openSUSE. That makes no sense from our point of view and it would be unfair with upstream. So answering your request, we have nothing to restore. We are waiting for upstream to migrate the open service to the following version so we all can use it in the open. Obviously we will help in this task when required. openqa.opensuse.org is a great service and, as some of you mentioned, has an increasing impact in our development process. I invite you to collaborate with Bernhard on it. We will also help when we can. These days we are focused in other tasks and we cannot, but we expect to have a time window to put effort on it during the first half of next year. Saludos -- Agustin Benito Bethencourt openSUSE Team Lead at SUSE abebe(a)suse.com

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[opensuse-web] Wiki update
by Christian Boltz 27 Sep '13

27 Sep '13

Hello, as some people might have seen in bugzilla comments [1], Janardhan is the new maintainer of the wiki servers. Welcome! Janardhan, I already have a task for you ;-) Currently *.opensuse.org runs MediaWiki 1.17.x, which is outdated and probably contains known security issues. https://github.com/openSUSE/wiki (branch "mw_upgrade_1.19") and the *stage.opensuse.org wikis already contain MediaWiki 1.19.3. Given that 1.19.3 was running on the staging server for months without problems, I'd say it's finally time to upgrade the production wikis. Note that in the meantime 1.19.7 is available (with additional fixes). Our final goal should be to upgrade to this version, but I'd prefer to deploy 1.19.3 first (to finally get 1.19.x without another delay) and afterwards do the update to the latest 1.19.x version. If you have questions or problems with the update, I'll happily help you - just ask ;-) Regards, Christian Boltz [1] for example https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=808727#c44 -- > > > > Boah. Du liest Doku... cool. Wie ist das so? :-) > > > Ist ganz interessant ;-) > > Sind da auch Bilder drin? Von Mädchen? > *LoL* Bisher hab ich noch keine gefunden ;-) Dann find ich Doku doof. [> Christian Boltz und Ratti] -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-web+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-web+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-web] Requesting review of "SDB:Live USB stick" page
by Carlos E. R. 21 Sep '13

21 Sep '13

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hi, I have made some changes to <https://en.opensuse.org/SDB:Live_USB_stick>, to try to cover the changes in USB stick creationg since 12.2. Could some one plese accept the changes, or improve them if appropriate? In the forums I have seen some people that try to apply instructions they read elsewhere to "make the usb bootable", and in doing so, the usb is rendered not bootable at all. You need none of those extra steps for openSUSE. Other people have found the instructions to "skip the isolinux step" confusing. - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.19 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAlI7mSIACgkQtTMYHG2NR9VsYwCcCUEQ7mZtmqGRwJqIawra4uIt k3kAn3BzLw9Hb3b5UtjySz29kZ3AbObB =iGLj -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-web+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-web+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-web] Re: [opensuse-factory] openSUSE 13.1 Beta 1 ready
by Felix Miata 20 Sep '13

20 Sep '13

On 2013-09-19 14:03 (GMT+0200) Ludwig Nussel composed: > openSUSE 13.1 Beta 1 is ready for testing! It's pretty solid as it > received an extra amount of automated checks via openQA. > Nevertheless there's still quite some work to be done to get the > quality we need for the final release¹. So please help testing and > file bug reports²! > Please find more information about the Beta and the activities > around it at > http://news.opensuse.org/2013/09/19/opensuse-13-1-beta-is-out/ > Or go to the download right away at > http://software.opensuse.org/developer > [1] https://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Roadmap > [2] https://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Submitting_bug_reports http://download.opensuse.org/factory-snapshot/repo/oss/boot/ seems to have a mirroring problem. Both i386 and x86_64 produce 404, aka, no current HTTP way to get the installation kernels and initrds to HTTP install, while http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/13.1-Beta1/ has no installation trees. Going directly to widehat.opensuse.org or gwdg.de via HTTP seems to work as expected. -- "The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-web+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-web+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-web] Old wiki
by Rajko 13 Sep '13

13 Sep '13

@ admin http://old-en.opensuse.org Login form does not work. Can you check why? I have to put site notice so that every page tells that is old wiki. Also, MediaWiki version is old. I guess that we want to keep it up to date as long as it is online. -- Regards, Rajko. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-web+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-web+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-web] Wiki - Portal:Documentation - some articles
by Jan Papež (honyczek) 04 Sep '13

04 Sep '13

Hi, there are some (bad) links to (obsolete) articles on the https://en.opensuse.org/Portal:Documentation. I'm preparing Czech version of the portal, but I'm in doubt what have to be kept and what not. Examples: - Migration to a new openSUSE version (latest 11.3) - Siga (what? latest 11.3) - Lessons for Lizards - Linux in a Nutshell -- Jan Papež (honyczek) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-web+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-web+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-web] openSUSE statistics at Wiki
by Jan Papež (honyczek) 21 Aug '13

21 Aug '13

Hi, i've been translating Portal:Documentation to Czech. I noticed link to openSUSE:Statistics (https://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Statistics), but there are inactual data. If it is wanted to keep this page, it would be better to fill it in with relevant data. Thanks. Jan Papež (honyczek) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-web+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-web+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-web] Wiki Server Upgrade Notice
by Matthew Ehle 07 Aug '13

07 Aug '13

Hello Everyone, This is just a heads up that we will be upgrading the wiki servers to the latest service pack of SLES next Monday. This upgrade will bring us to PHP 5.3, which will allow us to upgrade beyond MediaWiki 1.19. If you see any problems related to this upgrade, please send a message to webmaster(a)opensuse.org. Thank you, Matt

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