I need some information about SUSE Linux running on following notebook with
AMD Turion 64
I read in the archives (21.09.2005 - 24.09.2005: "SuSE 9.3 slow on Turion64
(nx6125)") that there were problems on this notebook with older SUSE
versions in the past.
Did all the problems disappear with OpenSUSE 10.0? Is it working with SLES
What about USB 2.0 / Firewire / WLAN?
What about the ATI-64-Bit-drivers for SUSE 10.0 and SLES 9? Are they running
fast and stable?
All detailed information is welcomed!
Thank you all in advance!
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I was wondering, has anybody been able to install gEDA on 64-bit SuSE
10? gEDA is an open-source electronic-design package which is similar
to the commercial Viewlogic package (now part of Mentor Graphics). For
those interested, here is its web site: http://geda.seul.org/ . It is
available in 32-bits only, but since it can be compiled from source, I
would think it should be possible to install on my 64-bit SuSE since
SuSE is a biarch distribution. But, as the say, the devil always lies
in the details...
There seem to be several ways to install gEDA. One of them, purported
to be the easiest, is to download an ISO, burn it on a CD, and then run
the installer from the CD. More details about this here:
Since the ISO image contains a lot of libraries I know for sure are
already installed on my system, I did not choose that route. I
downloaded the necessary zipped tarballs from
them, and ran make. I don't think I had any problems with the existence
of prerequisite libraries, but make complained about C preprocessor sanity:
checking whether ln -s works... yes
checking how to recognise dependent libraries... pass_all
checking how to run the C preprocessor... /lib/cpp
configure: error: C preprocessor "/lib/cpp" fails sanity check
See `config.log' for more details.
make: *** [libgeda-20060123/config.h] Error 1
The 'config.log' file was no more informative. I suspect the trouble is
caused by the fact that lib64 is accessed instead of the 32-bit lib.
There is a gEDA installation wiki at
http://geda.seul.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=geda:installation, which does
discuss SuSE 9.3 and 10 but, unfortunately, says nothing about 64 bits.
(If I get this installation to work, I may enter that into the wiki. :) )
gEDA is a major milestone in the open-source movement. It is a whole
suite encompassing schematic capture, board layout, Gerber-file
generation, SPICE circuit simulator, and even open-source Verilog
(called Icarus). Chances are if one package (e.g. schematic capture)
installs, all others will install also since they all have common
I did some googling, but I saw nothing about his specific error. Any
help would be appreciated.
Running 64-bit Linux on AMD64
I want to buy a laptop. As I saw if i buy a centrino machine I will not
have too much problem with my suse 10 because with centrino you got the
same chipset for video, wifi, lan , sound independently of the manufacturer
I am interesting buy AMD Turion which is good as Pentium in term of
performances, and almost the same for power consumption. But It seem
that this way is more hard because i can got a lot of video, lan , wifi
card , depend on laptop manufacturer
I have look at the two site :
I didn't found answer on theses , one reason is laptop change very often
and new models are not on. one other reason is even with the "same"
card, the bios on machine can influence the behavior with linux.
On Dell or HP web site no mention for linux compatibility .. everywhere
: we recommend Windows XP !!
On Suse web site i can't find now the hardware database which seem to
desapear with Novell ?
So what is the synthetic answer to that question :
which (actual) laptop with Turion can be use with suse 10 without to
much hardware problems ?
I wonder if anyone has any experience with MSI motherboards?
In particular, the MSI K8N SLI-FI for AMD64 chips (nforce4, socket 939).
What pecking order do you put for motherboard manufacturers?
Some people here might find the following script useful:
Typical usage would be:
# rpmonly /usr/lib -i libsomething.i386.rpm ...
rpmonly is a smaller wrapper around rpm that allows easy installation of
only specific paths in rpms. This is useful when you want to install 32bit libraries
from some 32bit RPM to fulfil some dependency. For many libraries there
are the needed *-32bit compat rpms in the 64bit distribution, but not
for everything and then it is useful to fetch them from the 32bit
distribution. But usually the 32bit rpms come with other files
that would conflict with the already installed 64bit rpms.
The solution is to only get the files you want from the 32bit rpms.
rpm supports this with the --exludepath function. The problem is that there
is no --includepath and exluding all the paths you don't want by hand
can be cumbersome in a large rpm. rpmonly auto generates the necessary
Drawback is that you might end up with multiple rpms with the same
name in your rpm database (32bit and 64bit) which can cause some confusion.
So if there is already a compat rpm in the distribution better use that.
I currently run ubuntu, but am considering switching du to the following
quote from http://www.lb.shuttle.de/apastron/boincDown.shtml
"An employee of AMD told me recently, that they have delivered 64 bit
libraries for their AMD64 CPUs just to Sun, Suse and RedHat, so you can
expect to work the 64 bit clients very fast on Solaris 10, Suse Linux
and RHEL (RedHat Enterprise only) systems of the more recent versions;
it explains, why it is slow on the lib lacking GNU/Linux systems like
Gentoo, Debian, Ubuntu. Please use the 32 bit client therefore on those
systems or if you suspect, you share this issue too anyway."
Furthermore, I would like to try the pathscale ekopath compiler, that is
available for Suse 9.
However, I would like to try things out first without having to make a
complete switch, so I ask, if anyone has any experience installing and
running Suse in a chroot environment like debian/ubuntu's dchroot.
MSI K8N Neo4 SLI Platinium woes: more details.
The sequence in time is like this, in brief:
- bought the board, assemble the machine.
- network does not work well, have to fix things manually at each boot
- YaST update last week (included kernel update)
- network works fine for the internet (second network port does not
work but I didn't knew)
- Did the NForce update yesterday
- Now back at square one, have to fix things manually after each boot,
only one port works (now I know because I need it).
So here's the story:
I've downloaded yesterday the latest NForce drivers directly from
Nvdia. These are the sound and network drivers. Before that I did
the YaST online update last week. After the YaST update the network
always started right. I just booted the machine then I could
immediately use the internet without doing something else to fix the
So yesterday I downloaded the latest NForce drivers. After
installing, I shut down the machine. This morning the network does
not work. It does not work like this:
In any case I do not touch the network cable. It always stays plugged
at the same port. Before the Nforce update eth1 was used. Now eth0
works and eth1 does not. I thought they were two distinct network
ports. So now, when the machine boots, both ports are up and running,
bot have the same MAC address. I have to manually shutdown eth1
(ifconfig eth1 down) and make the default gateway through eth0 (route
add default gw 192.168.1.1) for the internet to work. Before the YaST
update (that included a kernel update) it was the other way around:
eth0 did not work and eth1 did.
And the network cable always stayed in the same plug.
That's for networking. Then there's sound. The nvmixer refuses to
work with "set volume failed" on all controls. I can only get stereo
sound. Now, should I got to Creative to get mobo drivers for the
sound ? Or replacements for ALSA ? I thought ALSA did all.
And then USB.
I was 'tolerating' the machine like this for some time because I like
the speed, especially with its 4 GB of RAM and smp (recently updated)
kernel, but yesterday I had to conenct another device additional to
the usual internet router and I saw that I simply cannot use the two
network ports on the mobo. They are both at the same MAC and IP
Can I change randomly the addresses in YaST network card
configuration ? Let's try it.
I've uninstalled the network card so now it offers two choices:
- Micro-Star CK804 Ethernet Controller
YaST-suggested driver: forcedeth
- Micro-Star International Marvell 88E8053 Gigabit Ethernet Controller
YaST-suggested driver: sk98lin
None mention nvnet. So I try this: In YaST I change the last digit of
the MAC address of the first one and I enter 'nvnet' for the driver.
For the Marvell Gigabit I keep the same MAC and I enter 'nvnet'. I
close YaST, I restart it, and fine, both have kept their settings...
But ifconfig shows both at the same IP and MAC address !
And the network does work.
So I try again, this time keeping the suggested drivers.
Again, ifconfig shows both at the same IP and MAC address and I have to
kill eth1 and add a default route to use the internet.
It's getting close to be like some kind of a Windows config nightmare.
I've had Linux network problems in the past in different systems (I
used to build Linux From Scratch and I plan t eventually build one for
AMD X86_64) and always I read the documentations available, understood
the principles, and fixed the problem.
Now, maybe I can kill eth1 and add the route in a bootscript... (if
I'm cynical enough).
At the moment I'm surely not thinking about using the second network
port unless I unplug the network cable and replace it with another for
the device I want to add. It's a bit bad, because time is short, and
I need to connect to this other device (a spare Linksys router) to
upload OpenWRT to it (direct network conenction is needed for flashing
operating system in this embedded device) and eventually spend lots of
time to demonstrate the possibility of remote debugging an embedded
device. That's for work and it can influence the development of an
So I need both the internet conenction and a direct connection to the
other device. How nice, I have a mobo with two ethernet ports !
OK, I'm dramtizing a bit here and I can unplug the regular internet
router and plug the device and get on with the work without being able
to surf the internet for informations on embedded Linux remote
debugging at the same time I try that on the device. Then I can go
and walk to another machine, surf the internet for infos, print them
on a printer, and bring them back to the AMD X2 machine with only one
network port out of two working. I can do that and that's probably
what I will do.
In the long run I don't want to work like that in 2006. In 1990 with
Windows 3.1 that would've been all right, but not now.
So until further notice I really think of scrapping that mobo and
changing it for one whose all components work with Linux (SuSE 10.0 at
least). One upon everyone agrees that it is a fabulous Linux mobo for
X2 CPUs. One that everyone says that everything is working fine.
Surely such a mobo must exist and participants of this forum must have
a pretty good idea what it is exactly. Isn't it ?
On the other hand, if anyone here has exactly a MSI Neo4 K8N SLI
Platinium, could you share some tips ?
All suggestions appreciated, thanks !
Because of the Commonwealth Games, governments in Australia have changed the
date for the end of daylight savings time from 2006-03-26 to 2006-04-02. See
As a result, the date currently in eg. /usr/share/zoneinfo/Australia/Sydney is
no longer correct. See below.
How do I change all affected files to the correct date?
Best regards, Paul Leopardi
linfinit:/usr/share/zoneinfo/Australia # zdump -v -c 2007 Australia/Sydney |
Australia/Sydney Sat Mar 25 15:59:59 2006 UTC = Sun Mar 26 02:59:59 2006 EST
Australia/Sydney Sat Mar 25 16:00:00 2006 UTC = Sun Mar 26 02:00:00 2006 EST
Australia/Sydney Sat Oct 28 15:59:59 2006 UTC = Sun Oct 29 01:59:59 2006 EST
Australia/Sydney Sat Oct 28 16:00:00 2006 UTC = Sun Oct 29 03:00:00 2006 EST
Can someone re-assure me that sound, network and USB can work as
supposed to on a MSI K8N Neo4 SLI Platinium modo using SuSE 10.0 in
X86_64 smp mode ?
On my setup:
- only one network jack out of two works.
- only stereo speakers are working (plus subwoofer) instead of 5.1
- last time I've checked USB it couldn't see a functional and
formatted USB key.
At this point I'd just like to know that these can work fully. How to
make them fully is another matter and I can take the time needed once I
know it's possible. I'm considering changing the mobo.