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[opensuse-web] Update FAQ page
by Guo Yunhe 03 Jun '19

03 Jun '19

Some users have complained about here isn't an up-to-date FAQ page in wiki. We did have one https://en.opensuse.org/FAQ <https://en.opensuse.org/FAQ> but it is too old. For example, here is no information about Tumbleweed. And the content structure is not very clear. I have the following suggestions: FAQ page should be linked in wiki home page and sidebar. Content should really be what people have asked very often on forums, IRC, mail list, Bugzilla, etc. For example: choose TW or Leap, Btrfs, audio/video codecs, NVIDIA GPU, etc. FAQ for desktop users and server admins could be separated. Each Q&A shouldn't be too detailed. Just provide a link for more information. Would like to hear your opinions! -- Guo Yunhe / @guoyunhe / guoyunhe.me -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-web+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-web+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-web] Typos in German Wiki: Mailing lists page
by Maik Wagner 02 Jun '19

02 Jun '19

Hello everyone, I noticed two typos on the following page: https://de.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Mailinglisten Danke für dein interesse an den Mailinglisten -> Interesse (with a capital "I" as it is a noun) Auf lists.opensuse.org findest du eine komplette List aller verfügbaren mailinglisten. -> Liste (is missing an "e" the end and Mailinglisten should also be spelt with a capital "M") Have a good day, Maik www.linuxandlanguages.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-web+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-web+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-web] Re: [opensuse-project] Google's Season of Docs
by Lana Brindley 18 Mar '19

18 Mar '19

On 19/03/2019 00:32, Frank Sundermeyer wrote: > Hi, > > my name is Frank, I am the project manager for documentation in SUSE. The > whole doc team was on an offsite last week, so nobody from the team had a > chance to respond so far. > > This has become a long thread, so I hope you bear with me when I answer/ > comment in a single mail rather than replying to several posts > individually... . Thanks Frank for taking the time to reply, and apologies that this all blew up while you were at the offsite. > > ----------------- > > On Tuesday, 12 March 2019 11:44:39 CET Ancor Gonzalez Sosa wrote: > >> I usually read complaints about the bad state of openSUSE documentation. > Ancor, this is a rather vague and general statement, can you please provide > more details? Questions that immediately come to my mind are: > > * Does this refer to the openSUSE manuals at http://doc.opensuse.org/ or to > the openSUSE Wiki at http://en.opensuse.org/? Both? > * Where have you read these complaints and have they been passed on to the > Doc team or the Wiki team? If so, what happened to the feedback? > >> Maybe we can use Season of Docs (the Google's equivalent to Summer of >> Code) to fix some stuff. > Maybe we should first find out what needs fixing, where is this needed and > how to integrate existing resources... . I agree. Google's initiative is certainly interesting (and it's always nice to see people caring about open source docs), but it's also set up for groups and writers who have a plan in place, and processes to enable writers to contribute. At this point, we don't really have that. That said, assuming Google offer the program again next year, it could be feasible, if we have managed to get a community effort off the ground by then. > ---------------- > On Thursday, 14 March 2019 00:35:19 CET Lana Brindley wrote: > >> that even the docs mailing list got shut down a little while ago > We decided to shut it down because there was no traffic at all on this list > for one year... . If needed/wanted, we can set it up again on short notice. > Just let me know... Yes, please! > > On Thursday, 14 March 2019 03:35:25 CET Lana Brindley wrote: > >> Since there's no mailing list or IRC any more > That is not true - #opensuse-doc on Freenode exists since many years and the > SUSE doc team is present. Right now I see five people in that channel (including myself), and I've been sitting in there for close to nine months now, with no interaction. Seems like the definition of a dead channel to me. Slack has the extra added benefit of providing scrollback and threading, so it tends to work better for people in different timezones, because the conversation doesn't need to be synchronous like IRC. I also think there's value in being on the same platform as the Write the Docs community. > > On Saturday, 16 March 2019 04:32:41 CET Lana Brindley wrote: > >> Yeah, I'm very familiar with Docbook XML (less so daps), but it is very >> much a tech writer's toolchain. In my experience with upstream >> communities, switching to a markdown language can greatly improve >> contributions from non-tech writers. > I know from personal experience that many discussions in the community > (regardless of the topic) end in tools discussions. Before we open that can > of worms, I suggest to concentrate on content, collaboration and processes > first ;-D. I agree, and having been through community-based conversation projects in the past, it's important to get the team structure and processes right first. It's an important consideration, though, and I don't want it to be forgotten in all the political discussion. > ---------------- > On Thursday, 14 March 2019 09:02:22 CET Sarah Julia Kriesch wrote: > >> We had many questions on our wiki mailing list in the >> past how to contribute to the real documentation of openSUSE, because this >> documentation is only editable by the SUSE documentation team. > This is no longer true since more than 3½ years (June 2015). Since then, > _all_ SUSE product documentation is publically hosted on GitHub and licensed > under an openSource license (GFDL, Apache 2.0, Creative Commons). The SUSE > doc team happily accepts pull requests, bug reports and other help. > The openSUSE documentation that is hosted on http://doc.opensuse.org/, for > example, is hosted at https://github.com/SUSE/doc-sle (SLES, SLED, and > openSUSE documenation are generated from the same source). I suspect from this conversation thread that the invitation to make PRs to the doc team hasn't been well publicised. Another issue I see is that while the documentation is living in github, it's not being treated as docs-as-code, but rather long-form documentation, which makes it much harder to make quick patches. > > Again, we are open for cooperation and collaboration. We have NO intention > at all to exclude the community. > > BTW: The complete doc toolchain the doc team is using is also hosted on > GitHub and is used by people from outside SUSE. > The _complete_ work the SUSE doc team does is public and transparent for > everyone. This is great, and it gives us a really good starting point for a community effort. > On Thursday, 14 March 2019 10:33:46 CET Sarah Julia Kriesch wrote: > >> We know about the friendliness. 2 years ago we should receive 1 guy for >> the integration of openSUSE Contributions and a better cooperation between >> the SUSE Documentation Team and our wiki team. > [...] >> We didn't watch any Contributions in the wiki by the special SUSE >> Documentation Team Member. We tried the integration, but that was not >> possible. > I was involved in these conversations and supported the solution you > mentioned above. In hindsight, it would have been better to not make this > promise. Not because we did not want to help. Quite the opposite. We made > this promise because we really _wanted_ to help. Back then the doc team was > under heavy work load (and it still is). We had hoped to find time to > squeeze in the work for the wiki (because we wanted to). It turned out that > it did not work out. And still does not. > I should have let you know about this much earlier. I failed to do so and > you have every right to be angry about us not fulfilling our part of the > agreement. > But be rest assured that it was not done because of disrespect for the > community, but because of lack of resources. > ---------------- > On Thursday, 14 March 2019 10:06:57 CET Simon Lees wrote: > >> But still it is technically possible to create a pull >> request. > Yes! And bug reports, if you prefer that. > >> But really it would be best to discuss the best way forward >> with the documentation team, they maybe willing and happy to accept pull >> requests as is they may also be completely unprepared and not have the >> man power to review a significant number of pull requests. > Reviewing pull requests is part of our daily work and should be doable > (unless you do not attempt to rewrite everything with several hundered > requests ;-D). We may not always react within hours, but no work will be > lost or ignored. > the same is true for bug reports - they will usually take longer to get > fixed, but we will not ignore them. > >> Maybe it >> makes sense to do the work in some other "New openSUSE feature branch", > Our tool chain and DocBook XML make it possible to create parts of the > documentation that is only valid for one product flavor (openSUSE in this > case). This is true for single words, sections, chapters or even whole > guides. Therefore adding openSUSE-specific content should not be a problem. That's quite an unwieldy feature in Docbook, but it's a good beginning. >> at worst its possible to fork the documentation into openSUSE's github > I hope it will not come to this - all parties would lose in this case. I agree, and as I said in an earlier mail it only makes sense if the internal docs team is hostile to patches, which it would seem you are not. > >> There might be other ways as well, but the best people to work that >> through with is SUSE's documentation team. > That would really be appreciated. And I am volunteering to continue this > discussion with you - just let me know where (in case it is moved somewhere > else). > I think the suggestion was to move to opensuse-web, so I have added them to this mail. Lana -- Lana Brindley Technical Writer - SUSE Manager "The question is," said Alice, "whether you can make words mean so many different things." -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-web+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-web+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-web] Pls update following values at https://en.opensuse.org/Portal:Build_Service
by Amey Abhyankar 14 Mar '19

14 Mar '19

Hello, I don't have access to https://en.opensuse.org/Portal:Build_Service Hence, request you to update following fields = i) Update following old values with new 1's from https://build.opensuse.org/ = currently ( June 2018 ) hosts 53,219 projects, with 468,316 packages, in 79,794 ii) openSUSE:Factory project, = Replace broken link with new link i.e. https://en.opensuse.org/Portal:Factory Thanks & Regards, Amey. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-web+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-web+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-web] bad wiki Info| output
by Felix Miata 08 Mar '19

08 Mar '19

https://en.opensuse.org/index.php?title=Template:Sandbox http://fm.no-ip.com/SS/Suse/wiki20190307editInfo1.jpg What am I doing wrong to get {{{1}}} instead of the content following "{{Info|" in the editing textarea? "Here is how to use <tt>nomodeset</tt>. When the first openSUSE Installation menu appears, move the highlight to "<tt>Installation</tt>" and strike the "<tt>e</tt>" key. Then move the cursor to the end of the line (which may be wrapped) beginning with "<tt>linux</tt>" and ending with "<tt>splash=silent</tt>" and/or "<tt>quiet</tt>", and without typing any quote marks, append a space and "<tt>nomodeset</tt>", then proceed by striking <tt>F10</tt> or <tt>Ctrl-X</tt> to see if black screen and no signal are avoided. If you see a green bar moving across the bottom of the screen that's good. Strike the <tt>ESC</tt> key to see more information while the boot process proceeds." My object is to make it look like the paragraph near the bottom: inxi may not already be installed. It's in the OSS repos ready for zypper or YaST to install. Output from inxi -GxxSM is a good starting point to provide information about your computer in any video issue help request. on https://en.opensuse.org/SDB:Nomodeset:_Work_Around_Graphic_Upgrade_&_Instal… -- Evolution as taught in public schools is religion, not science. Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-web+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-web+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-web] intro
by antonettecaldwell＠tutanota.com 24 Feb '19

24 Feb '19

Good morning, My name is Antonette. I am interested in joining your group. I have experience in web development, and have been (on and off) for about 4 years now. I normally alternate between different distros, like Fedora, Ubuntu, Gentoo, and etc. However, I have decided to make openSUSE my default distro. I wanted to learn more about the tasks that was listed on the wiki. I would like to know what to do to get started. I checked out the tasks page. Thank you!-- Antonette Caldwell -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-web+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-web+owner(a)opensuse.org

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Re: [opensuse-web] intro
by Christian Imhorst 21 Feb '19

21 Feb '19

Hi all, welcome Antonette! Same question here: I have startet editing or creating openSUSE wiki pages on my own, but is there any guide how to start working with the openSUSE wiki for newbies? Would be cool. Thanks in advance and have a lot of fun, Christian P.S. Antonette: Cool email provider. :-) Am 20. Februar 2019 16:17:37 MEZ schrieb antonettecaldwell(a)tutanota.com: >Good morning, > >My name is Antonette. I am interested in joining your group. I have >experience in web development, and have been (on and off) for about 4 >years now. I normally alternate between different distros, like Fedora, >Ubuntu, Gentoo, and etc. However, I have decided to make openSUSE my >default distro. > >I wanted to learn more about the tasks that was listed on the wiki. I >would like to know what to do to get started. I checked out the tasks >page. > >Thank you!-- >Antonette Caldwell

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[opensuse-web] inexplicable SDB page menuitem link
by Felix Miata 16 Feb '19

16 Feb '19

(H2) Left side menu on https://en.opensuse.org/SDB:*: (H3) Help (LI) Create a Page links to https://en.opensuse.org/Help:Concept Nothing I see when opened shows any material relationship to the link I clicked. Where is a how to create a page page? I want to make one. http://fm.no-ip.com/Tmp/SUSE/optimus.html is latest version of draft. Does something exist that converts HTML/CSS into wiki content? -- Evolution as taught in public schools is religion, not science. Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-web+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-web+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-web] retire bad wiki page
by Felix Miata 16 Feb '19

16 Feb '19

https://en.opensuse.org/HCL:Video last edit date 6.5 years ago virtually everything on that page is obsolete video driver names except for one have all been changed years ago automagic works for most people not using Optimus for anyone not already familiar with openSUSE and is shopping for a distro, seeing this page would be a very bad omen It needs to be either retired (my vote), or rewritten from scratch (I don't think it's relevant any more). Are any of the HCL: pages relevant any more? Should this have been sent instead to the heroes list? -- Evolution as taught in public schools is religion, not science. Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-web+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-web+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-web] openSUSE logo & outdated Footer
by [Nivesh] Doosan Pagooah 11 Jan '19

11 Jan '19

Good Evening, I am sending you this mail to report two issues, while trying to download openSUSE Leap. Ish Sookun, our local(Mauritian) openSUSE ambassador confirmed me the same. *ISSUE 1* The openSUSE logo is not loading on these pages : 1. https://software.opensuse.org/distributions 2. https://software.opensuse.org/explor <https://software.opensuse.org/explore> *ISSUE 2* In the footer of the above-mentioned pages, *"© 2011–2017 openSUSE contributors*" should up updated. Your action in this regard shall be highly appreciated. Kind Regards, -- photo *[Nivesh] Doosan Pagooah* Systems Engineer, LSL Digital, La Sentinelle Ltd. (+230) 2068581 <tel:(+230) 2068581> | (+230) 57311420 <tel:(+230) 57311420> | doosan(a)lsl.digital <mailto:doosan@lsl.digital> www.lsl.digital <http://www.lsl.digital> Rue Des Oursin, Tombeau Bay, Mauritius , Indian Ocean <http://www.facebook.com/lsldigital/> <http://www.linkedin.com/company/lsl-digital> <http://twitter.com/DoosanPagooah> <http://www.instagram.com/lsldigital/>

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