December 2020 - Heroes - openSUSE Mailing Lists

news.lists - subscription policy ?
by Per Jessen 29 Dec '20

29 Dec '20

I have two pending subscription requests for news.lists.o.o, does anyone happen to know the subscription policy ? the list currently has only 12 members. -- Per Jessen, Zürich (2.3°C) Member, openSUSE Heroes

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Fwd: subscription to factory@lists.opensuse.org disabled
by Simon Lees 24 Dec '20

24 Dec '20

-------- Forwarded Message -------- Subject: subscription to factory(a)lists.opensuse.org disabled Date: Wed, 23 Dec 2020 09:59:09 +0100 From: Ad Moelands <ad.moelands(a)xs4all.nl> To: factory-owner(a)lists.opensuse.org Hello, My subscription to factory(a)lists.opensuse.org has been disabled due to a large number of bounces. I think this was due to the lists.opensuse.org domain not being on the green list of my mail-account. I put it on the greenlist. Please enable my e-mail address again. Otherwise I don' t receive the Tumbleweed update messages! -- Met vriendelijke groeten, Ad Moelands

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Packagekitd and zypper stalls during downloads
by Arjen de Korte 18 Dec '20

18 Dec '20

For a while I have been struggling with stalling downloads when running packagekitd and/or 'zypper dup' for openSUSE Tumbleweed on multiple systems. Until recently, I would send a 'kill -HUP <process>' to them to break the stall and restart the downloads. Since previously downloaded updates would be in the cache, this eventually would finish the downloads and successfully run the update. A couple of days ago I thought it might be interesting to see what would happen if I would just kill the stalled connection to the download servers with 'ss -K dst [download server address] dport = 80'. Bingo! Both packagekitd and zypper would immediately resume the download without further input. The connection to the download servers is native IPv6 (fiber) so I guessed it might be a PMTU problem. On my side of the connection MTU = 1500, so it is not likely that packets are being dropped on this end. The 'http://icmpcheckv6.popcount.org/' also shows no problems, so if there is a PMTU problem, it doesn't appear to be something I can fix. My question is, is this a known problem? Are there other people who see this? I have two systems on Tumbleweed, one connected through GigE and one through WLAN 5GHz. Both exhibit the same behavior.

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Please create OBS project Application:Hardware
by Mark Stopka 17 Dec '20

17 Dec '20

Hi, can you please create an OBS project Application:Hardware and assign me as owner? The repository is intended to include HW development tools such as FPGA synthesis tools from SymbiFlow project and functional verification tools such as cocotb, iverilog, verilator,... Please see thread below, it is a migration from CentOS to openSUSE as a open hardware development platform... https://github.com/tropicsquare/tassic/discussions/1 -- Best regards / S pozdravem, BSc. Mark Stopka, BBA Managing Partner (at) PERLUR Group mobile: +420 704 373 561 website: www.perlur.cloud

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Re: support vs. users (was: greetings & first question...)
by Felix Miata 16 Dec '20

16 Dec '20

>>> The idea is to post strictly support related questions to the support >>> mail list, while this list is generic. >> Well, sgrat sgrat...ok, I'll try to keep it in mind >> So sorry I should have said hello here and posted the question there. >> But I should have said first hello also there >> So this remains somehow unclear :) > Don't worry, it is mostly irrelevant, IMHO. :-D > But I understand it confuses newcomers. What exactly is the difference between a "users" list and a "support" list? What subject(s) are common from "users" that don't constitute the subject of either another list, or support? The existence of both where many exist creates confusion. The changeover of list servers should have consolidated the two. -- Evolution as taught in public schools, like religion, is based on faith, not on science. Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/

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Re: Term of next regular elections and chellenged members
by Mark Stopka 15 Dec '20

15 Dec '20

I see, I thought I had once managed to get HTML mail to project@, I recently had to write one HTML e-mail and forgot to change the seeings back, thx! -- Best regards / S pozdravem, BSc. Mark Stopka, BBA Managing Partner (at) PERLUR Group mobile: +420 704 373 561 website: www.perlur.cloud -- Best regards / S pozdravem, BSc. Mark Stopka, BBA Managing Partner (at) PERLUR Group mobile: +420 704 373 561 website: www.perlur.cloud On Tue, Dec 15, 2020 at 8:46 AM Bernhard M. Wiedemann <bernhardout(a)lsmod.de> wrote: > > > > On 15/12/2020 08.07, Mark Stopka wrote: > > > > Header "No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE, > > ..." matched a header rule > > I think, we have long rejected HTML mails on our MLs because of the > security risks. > > The easiest way out is to send mails as plain text instead. > E.g. thunderbird Preferences => Configure text format behaviour => Send > Options >

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Re: Term of next regular elections and chellenged members
by Mark Stopka 15 Dec '20

15 Dec '20

Interesting... This should probably be fixed... -- Best regards / S pozdravem, BSc. Mark Stopka, BBA Managing Partner (at) PERLUR Group mobile: +420 704 373 561 website: www.perlur.cloud On Tue, Dec 15, 2020 at 8:06 AM <election-officials-owner(a)lists.opensuse.org> wrote: > Your message to the Election Officials mailing-list was rejected for the > following > reasons: > > Header "No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE, > RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE,RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2 autolearn=disabled > version=3.4.2" matched a header rule > > The original message as received by Mailman is attached. > > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Mark Stopka <mstopka(a)opensuse.org> > To: AJV(a)opensuse.org, ishwon(a)opensuse.org, medwin(a)opensuse.org > Cc: election-officials(a)lists.opensuse.org > Bcc: > Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2020 08:05:36 +0100 > Subject: Fwd: Term of next regular elections and chellenged members > Well, this page[1] says I can reach you all here... > > election-officials(a)lists.opensuse.org > > the bounce came from mail mentioned here[2] so let's see... > > [1] https://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Board_election#Contact > [2] https://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Board_election#Election_Committee > -- > Best regards / S pozdravem, > BSc. Mark Stopka, BBA > Managing Partner (at) PERLUR Group > > mobile: +420 704 373 561 > website: www.perlur.cloud > > > ---------- Forwarded message --------- > From: <election-officials-owner(a)lists.opensuse.org> > Date: Tue, Dec 15, 2020 at 7:58 AM > Subject: Term of next regular elections and chellenged members > To: <mstopka(a)opensuse.org> > > > Your message to the Election Officials mailing-list was rejected for the > following > reasons: > > Header "No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE, > RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE,RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2 autolearn=disabled > version=3.4.2" matched a header rule > > The original message as received by Mailman is attached. > > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Mark Stopka <mstopka(a)opensuse.org> > To: openSUSE Election Committee <election-officials(a)opensuse.org> > Cc: > Bcc: > Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2020 07:57:38 +0100 > Subject: Term of next regular elections and chellenged members > Hi, > I would like to ask you if you could please help me determine when the > next regular elections are to take place and who will be the > challenged members of the re-elected board during these elections? > -- > Best regards / S pozdravem, > BSc. Mark Stopka, BBA > Managing Partner (at) PERLUR Group > > mobile: +420 704 373 561 > website: www.perlur.cloud >

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Re: User support data anyalsis: Request to export specific subforums
by Adrien Glauser 09 Dec '20

09 Dec '20

Hey Malcom, thanks for your quick reply, Added heroes to addressees to my reply (this message). We are looking for: - the full contents of - all posts (original posts + replies) - thread titles (unless it's already included in original posts) - of the [2017-1-1, 2020-12-7] (Dec 12 of this month) period. - exported to json Somewhat doable? Thanks, Adrien Le mar. 8 déc. 2020 à 14:57, Malcolm <malcolmlewis(a)opensuse.org> a écrit : > > On Tue, 08 Dec 2020 12:27:47 +0100 > Adrien Glauser <adrien.glauser(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > Hi there, > > > > Attila (CC'ed in this very message) and I are working on the next > > version of the documentation > > (https://github.com/openSUSE/openSUSE-docs-revamped) and we would > > like to perform data analysis on the openSUSE platforms to better > > understand difficulties for different categories of users. > > > > The forums are the last oS platform we haven't collected data from > > yet. Could you help us extract all contents from subforums > > - Install/Boot/Login > > - Applications > > - Hardware > > - Network/Internet > > for the [2017-1-1 -> 2020-12-7] (12th of January 2020) period? > > > > That would be very appreciated. It would also provide a nice > > "objective" complement to poll I am orgnanizing here > > https://lists.opensuse.org/archives/list/project@lists.opensuse.org/thread/…. > > > > Have a nice day! > > > > Adrien > Hi Adrien > We have no access to the database, that's under the control of the > Heroes team. > > What sort of data are you after? We can look at the release prefix > data, but that normally gets changed after a release to archive off the > old prefix. Or are you just after the thread/post count? > > > -- > Cheers Malcolm °¿° SUSE Knowledge Partner (Linux Counter #276890) > Tumbleweed 20201205 | GNOME Shell 3.38.2 | 5.9.12-1-default > Intel DQ77MK MB | Xeon E3-1245 V2 X8 @ 3.40 GHz | Intel/Nvidia > up 1 day 10:43, 2 users, load average: 0.05, 0.07, 0.30

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Re: DKIM/DMARC
by Michael Ströder 09 Dec '20

09 Dec '20

On 12/8/20 3:43 PM, Per Jessen wrote: > Peter Simons wrote: >> > AFAICT, mailman offers only two (marginally useful) options, per >> > list - replace from with list address or wrap message in an outer >> > message. Neither is of much use to us, we don't want the From: >> > address to change. >> >> you realize, though, that it's impossible to keep "From:" as-is if you >> want to deliver postings reliably to all recipients? > > Well, for at least the last four years, it has not caused us any > problems. (i.e. I haven't seen any tickets nor have I heard anyone > complain). That's not a real argument because MTA admins just began to implement SPF/DKIM/DMARC during the last two years. >> If you keep the original "From:", then those the postings will >> potentially fail the SPF check. I have that exact problem with my >> private domain cryp.to. I cannot post as simons(a)cryp.to to mailing >> lists that don't re-write "From:" because sites like gmail.com will >> reject those messages. When I found out about that, I could not >> believe that they would check the SPF records against the "From:" >> header found in the message payload, but, well, they do. > > That is certainly non-standard. It should really only be checked on the > envelope address. This ship has sailed with the continously growing adoption of DMARC. Like it or not you have to use munge_from. > Besides, if we were to fiddle with the From: header, > the DKIM validation would likely fail. That's why you also strip old DKIM headers and let your MTA re-sign the new message. > Anyway, isn't this all a bit off topic here on this list? I agree. Move that to heroes list? Ciao, Michael.

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[heroes] [List migration] Nomail subscription doesn't work
by ASSI 09 Dec '20

09 Dec '20

Hi, due to the list migration I recognized that I was no longer subscribed to the support mailing list. So I subscribed (again), but none of the documented ways of getting a "nomail" subscription without an account works with the new list software. the feature itself must still be there b ecause the other lists did not suddenly start to send email (thankfully) after the migration. Can this please be corrected? Regards, Achim. -- +<[Q+ Matrix-12 WAVE#46+305 Neuron microQkb Andromeda XTk Blofeld]>+ Waldorf MIDI Implementation & additional documentation: http://Synth.Stromeko.net/Downloads.html#WaldorfDocs

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