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[opensuse-announce] Reminder: openSUSE status meeting today 18:00 CEST
by Martin Lasarsch 29 Aug '06

29 Aug '06

Hi there, sorry for the late mail ... the next openSUSE status meeting will take place at the official #opensuse-project IRC channel on freenode (irc://irc.freenode.net/openSUSE-project) this Tuesday at 2006/08/29 18:00 CET (16:00 GMT) This meeting is meant to discuss the latest developments in and around openSUSE. Please add your topics to the meeting wiki page at: http://en.opensuse.org/Meetings/Status_Meeting_2006-08-29 as soon as possible. Also, if you cannot attend the meeting, but have questions you want to see discussed, please add them to the meeting wiki page as well. For general info about our IRC meetings read: http://en.opensuse.org/Meetings/About For a general technical introduction to IRC (Internet Relay Chat) see http://www.irchelp.org/ (not affiliated with openSUSE) or enter "IRC help" into your preferred search engine. The network we use is freenode - for more information on this, including how to find a server, visit http://freenode.net/ (not affiliated with openSUSE either). Note: afaik this is the first meeting in the #opensuse-project channel -- with kind regards, ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Martin Lasarsch, Subsystems SUSE LINUX GmbH, Maxfeldstr. 5 90409 Nuremberg martin.lasarsch(a)suse.de ---------------------------------------------------------------------- simply change to www.suse.de

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[opensuse-announce] openSUSE Status meeting from 22 August moved to 29 August
by Adrian Schröter 22 Aug '06

22 Aug '06

A large number of people usually taking part on the irc meeting are not available today. So we will move the discussion to next weeks tuesday. bye adrian -- Adrian Schroeter SUSE Linux Products GmbH, Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nuernberg, Germany email: adrian(a)suse.de

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[opensuse-announce] stage/ftp/rsync/download/software .opensuse.org will be down tomorrow.
by Adrian Schröter 21 Aug '06

21 Aug '06

Hi, our opensuse.org main stage and ftp server will be down tomorrow for some hours. Expect a downtime from around 07:00 till 13:00 UTC. We will do a software and hardware upgrade during that time. We will run a rsync and http server on a different host, which only reports a "We are in maintainance" message during that timeframe. bye adrian -- Adrian Schroeter SUSE Linux Products GmbH, Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nuernberg, Germany email: adrian(a)suse.de

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[opensuse-announce] openSUSE 10.2 Alpha3 Release
by Andreas Jaeger 11 Aug '06

11 Aug '06

I'm glad to announce the third alpha release of our 10.2 product. It's the first time that we're call our distribution "openSUSE" instead of "SUSE Linux". The codename of openSUSE 10.2 is "Basilisk Lizard". With the rename of the distribution, we renamed also the name in bugzilla.novell.com so that you have to report bugs against "openSUSE 10.2". Compared with Alpha2, we've made a number of significant changes: * We switched to kernel 2.6.18rc4 - and neither all kernel module packages (kmp) nor the Xen packages have been adopted for the new kernel. * openSUSE 10.2 contains KDE 3.5.4 * We started the switch to GNOME 2.16 Beta and have now the base packages in, more to come later for Alpha4. * The new branding "openSUSE" is shown in the first places but there's still some existing SUSE Linux 10.1 branding. * X11 R7.1 with different pathes (no more /usr/X11R6 for the xorg packages): Users with a working X11 configuration will not see many real changes. First, the pathes have changed, so most applications that lived in /usr/X11R6/bin now exist in /usr/bin. So, hard coded paths need to be changed. The X11 Release 7 is fully modularized. This is reflected in our packaging as it enables us to provide updates for individual components like drivers and libraries once they become available independently of the release cycle of the X Window System. As with every major update, a lot of bugs have been fixed in all areas. The changed pathes broke building of packages, so developers might need to change their software. * cups 1.2.2: This is a major update (from version 1.1.x), the highlights are IPv6 support, network printer discovery (CUPS can now find printers on the LAN using SNMP) and LDAP support. A cool feature are unique job ids: CUPS maintains a new job-uuid attribute which provides a unique identifier that can be used to track a job on your network or anywhere in the world * Updated development tools like gettext 0.15 and autoconf 2.60. * We now have a gcc package and a gcc41 package in such a way that in the future a gcc42 package might be available as well, giving you the chance to use different gcc versions at the same time. * Using patterns instead of selections in the package manager (think of patterns as package groups with some semantics). We have currently only a basic set of patterns and will enhance them. All these changes needed changes by other packages, so a lot of other packages have been fixed to build again (and updated), and some still need updating. Alphas of openSUSE are rather untested and more for the experimental folks. I do not suggest to use it in production. But I do consider especially Alpha3 an important milestone for development and testing. The list of known bugs is available as usual at: http://en.opensuse.org/Bugs:Most_Annoying_Bugs#openSUSE_10.2_Alpha_3 The current ones are: * YaST does not allow X11 configuration since it asks for non-existant xorg-x11-server-glx Bug #198250. Note: I could run X11 nevertheless and logged into both KDE and GNOME. * zen-updater always shows patterns to update Bug #198379 * f-spot does not work Bug #198377 * gnome-wm does not handle X11R7 Bug #198380 * Firefox does not start Bug #197928 * Registration fails with an internal server error Bug #198381 * applications using python-gtk are broken, e.g. smart-gui Bug #198391 * kde su does not accept correct password Bug #198408 * Most kernel module packages are not build against the new 2.6.18rc4 kernel. If you need them, I advise to wait for their update. The Xen packages are not adjusted either. Andreas P.S. Here're the URLs for our download redirector which brings you to one of our mirrors. Download URLs for the torrents of the DELTA-ISOs: http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/openSUSE-10.2-Alpha3/openSUSE-10.… http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/openSUSE-10.2-Alpha3/openSUSE-10.… http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/openSUSE-10.2-Alpha3/openSUSE-10.… Download URLs for the torrents of the ISOs: http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/openSUSE-10.2-Alpha3/openSUSE-10.… http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/openSUSE-10.2-Alpha3/openSUSE-10.… http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/openSUSE-10.2-Alpha3/openSUSE-10.… Download URLs for the Add-On Media torrent: http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/openSUSE-10.2-Alpha3/openSUSE-10.… http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/openSUSE-10.2-Alpha3/openSUSE-10.… Download URLs for the full Delta ISOs: x86 architecture (Intel 32-bit) architecture: http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/openSUSE-10.2-Alpha3/delta-iso/op… http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/openSUSE-10.2-Alpha3/delta-iso/op… http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/openSUSE-10.2-Alpha3/delta-iso/op… http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/openSUSE-10.2-Alpha3/delta-iso/op… http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/openSUSE-10.2-Alpha3/delta-iso/op… For x86-64 (AMD64 / EM64T) 64-bit architecture: http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/openSUSE-10.2-Alpha3/delta-iso/op… http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/openSUSE-10.2-Alpha3/delta-iso/op… http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/openSUSE-10.2-Alpha3/delta-iso/op… http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/openSUSE-10.2-Alpha3/delta-iso/op… http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/openSUSE-10.2-Alpha3/delta-iso/op… For PowerPC architecture: http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/openSUSE-10.2-Alpha3/delta-iso/op… http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/openSUSE-10.2-Alpha3/delta-iso/op… http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/openSUSE-10.2-Alpha3/delta-iso/op… http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/openSUSE-10.2-Alpha3/delta-iso/op… http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/openSUSE-10.2-Alpha3/delta-iso/op… Download URLs for the full ISOs: x86 architecture (Intel 32-bit) architecture: http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/openSUSE-10.2-Alpha3/iso/openSUSE… http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/openSUSE-10.2-Alpha3/iso/openSUSE… http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/openSUSE-10.2-Alpha3/iso/openSUSE… http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/openSUSE-10.2-Alpha3/iso/openSUSE… http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/openSUSE-10.2-Alpha3/iso/openSUSE… For x86-64 (AMD64 / EM64T) 64-bit architecture: http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/openSUSE-10.2-Alpha3/iso/openSUSE… http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/openSUSE-10.2-Alpha3/iso/openSUSE… http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/openSUSE-10.2-Alpha3/iso/openSUSE… http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/openSUSE-10.2-Alpha3/iso/openSUSE… http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/openSUSE-10.2-Alpha3/iso/openSUSE… For PowerPC architecture: http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/openSUSE-10.2-Alpha3/iso/openSUSE… http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/openSUSE-10.2-Alpha3/iso/openSUSE… http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/openSUSE-10.2-Alpha3/iso/openSUSE… http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/openSUSE-10.2-Alpha3/iso/openSUSE… http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/openSUSE-10.2-Alpha3/iso/openSUSE… Download URLs for the Add-On Media ISOs: http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/openSUSE-10.2-Alpha3/non-oss/open… http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/openSUSE-10.2-Alpha3/non-oss/open… -- Andreas Jaeger, aj(a)suse.de, http://www.suse.de/~aj/ SUSE Linux Products GmbH, Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126

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Introducing the new mailinglist server
by Henne Vogelsang 10 Aug '06

10 Aug '06

Hi there, now that we switched to the new mailinglist server i would like to tell you about the changes it brings with it. The old mailinglist software was ezmlm. The new mailinglist software is mlmmj. 1. Adresses ~~~~~~~~~~~ 1.1 Command Delimiter --------------------- In general all addresses you are used to will still work. The new server accepts - as well as + as delimiter between the listname and the command. So <listname>-<command> will still work. But please start to use the + because i will drop the - in the future. 1.2 subscription ---------------- Mailinglist subscription works with the following address: * <listname>+subscribe(a)opensuse.org the old syntax of <listname>-subscribe-<subscription-address>@opensuse.org doe _NOT_ work anymore. This is due the changes of subscriber identification from the 'Return-Path' header to the 'From' header. If you want to subscribe another address change the 'From' header in your mailer. 1.3 subscription to the nomail version of a list ------------------------------------------------ The nomail version of a list means that you are reccognized as a subscriber, but will not get any messages from the list. This is useful when it's necessary to post from several emailaddresses to a subscribers only list or if you read mails from the list elsewhere (gmane). Subscription works with the following address: * <listname>+subscribe-nomail(a)opensuse.org 1.4 subscription to the digest version of a list ------------------------------------------------ A Mailing List Digest combines multiple messages posted to a mailing list in to a single message. Digests are usually sent once a day and serve to reduce the number of emails received from a particular mailing list. Subscription works with the following address: * <listname>+subscribe-digest(a)opensuse.org Digest are turned off for all existing lists so you cant subscribe to them. In the future we might have lists with digests. 1.5 unsubscription ------------------ All the addresses above work also for unsubscription. Just replace subscribe with unsubscribe in them. 1.6 retrieval of messages from the archive ------------------------------------------ For retrieval of message number N in the archive send a message to the following address: * <listname>+get-N(a)opensuse.org 1.7 Frequently Asked Questions (FAQ) ------------------------------------ For a collection of frequently asked questions about this list send a message to: * <listname>+faq(a)opensuse.org 1.8 Talk to the lists owner --------------------------- To contact the list owner, send a message to: * <listname>+owner(a)opensuse.org 1.9 Reply-To munging -------------------- We do not "munge" the mail headers by inserting a "Reply-To: <listname>@opensuse.org" anymore because it makes it more difficult subscribers to handle the mail the way they want to. Your mail client probably has a "reply" function as well as a "reply to all" or "reply to list" one; Please use the latter if you want you message to go to the list and not just to the original poster. 1.10 Dropped commands --------------------- The following is a list of ezmlm commands we wont support anymore: * <listname>-archive(a)opensuse.org * <listname>-info(a)opensuse.org * <listname>-request(a)opensuse.org * <listname>-edit(a)opensuse.org * <listname>-index(a)opensuse.org * <listname>-thread(a)opensuse.org * <listname>-query(a)opensuse.org * <listname>-log(a)opensuse.org If you desperately need some them please get in contact with me. 2. Webarchive ~~~~~~~~~~~~~ The webarchive is totally redesigned to match the wiki design and has a couple of new features. 2.1 Mailbox files for download ------------------------------ Each list is available as mbox file split into months. So if you unsusbcribe because you go on vacation or whatever there is now an easy way to get mails from the archive. Just download the mbox file and import it into your mailer. 2.2 Web-Search -------------- The web-archives now support searching. The index generation is happening * for all lists every sunday at 03:00 (GMT) * for the individual lists every 5 minutes This is all for now. Have fun with the new setup and if you find anything wrong then drop me a mail! Henne -- Henne Vogelsang, Core Services "Rules change. The Game remains the same." - Omar (The Wire)

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[opensuse-announce] Mailinglist Migration
by Henne Vogelsang 10 Aug '06

10 Aug '06

Hi, today (i dont know the exact time yet) i will transfer the rest of the opensuse mailinglists to the new mailinglist server. Bear with me please :) I expect some problems with posting for a minority of subscribers because of the different approach to subscriber identification. To identify subscribers the old mailinglist server took the address in the "Return-Path" of the Mail. The new mailinglist server takes the address in the "From" header. If you have trouble posting to the lists get in contact with me by mail. Everything else should go smoothly and you wont notice the switch. Henne -- Henne Vogelsang, Core Services "Rules change. The Game remains the same." - Omar (The Wire) --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-announce-unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-announce-help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-announce] openSUSE.org at LinuxWorld Expo in San Francisco, Aug 15-17
by Michael 09 Aug '06

09 Aug '06

Hi, openSUSE.org is present at next week's LWE in San Francisco in the .org pavillon at booth #13. We'll show the current SUSE Linux 10.1, the openSUSE build service and give an general overview over the openSUSE project. Michael and I are happy to meet you there and discuss all openSUSE topics. Michael Schroeder is giving a talk about openSUSE and the Build Service: Wednesday 16 6-7pm Room 301 For free exhibition tickets and more details about LWE San Fransisco please visit http://www.linuxworldexpo.com/sf. For free tickets registration necessary till Sunday. See you there Michael + Michael -- Michael Löffler, Product Management SUSE Linux Products GmbH, Maxfeldstraße 5, 90409 Nuremberg --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-announce-unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-announce-help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-announce] REMINDER: openSUSE Status Meeting 2006/08/08 18:00 CET (16:00 GMT)
by Sonja Krause-Harder 08 Aug '06

08 Aug '06

Hi there, The next openSUSE status meeting will take place at the official #opensuse IRC channel on freenode (irc://irc.freenode.net/openSUSE) today in about 2 hours at 2006/08/08 18:00 CET (16:00 GMT) This meeting is meant to discuss the latest developments in and around openSUSE. The current list of topics is: * Status: - 10.2 - wiki - build service * LinuxWorld Expo, San Francisco * Tomorrow openSUSE becomes one year old * Q & A We'll post the transcript of this meeting to the wiki page at: http://en.opensuse.org/Meetings/Status_Meeting_2006-08-08 as soon as possible. Also, if you cannot attend the meeting, but have questions you want to see discussed, there's still time to add them to the meeting wiki page as well. For general info about our IRC meetings read: http://en.opensuse.org/Meetings/About For a general technical introduction to IRC (Internet Relay Chat) see http://www.irchelp.org/ (not affiliated with openSUSE) or enter "IRC help" into your preferred search engine. The network we use is freenode - for more information on this, including how to find a server, visit http://freenode.net/ (not affiliated with openSUSE either). cheers, Sonja -- Sonja Krause-Harder (skh(a)suse.de) Research & Development SUSE Linux Products GmbH --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-announce-unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-announce-help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-announce] openSUSE Status Meeting 2006/08/08 18:00 CET (16:00 GMT)
by Sonja Krause-Harder 07 Aug '06

07 Aug '06

Hi there, The next openSUSE status meeting will take place at the official #opensuse IRC channel on freenode (irc://irc.freenode.net/openSUSE) tomorrow at 2006/08/08 18:00 CET (16:00 GMT) This meeting is meant to discuss the latest developments in and around openSUSE. Please add your topics to the meeting wiki page at: http://en.opensuse.org/Meetings/Status_Meeting_2006-08-08 as soon as possible. Also, if you cannot attend the meeting, but have questions you want to see discussed, please add them to the meeting wiki page as well. For general info about our IRC meetings read: http://en.opensuse.org/Meetings/About For a general technical introduction to IRC (Internet Relay Chat) see http://www.irchelp.org/ (not affiliated with openSUSE) or enter "IRC help" into your preferred search engine. The network we use is freenode - for more information on this, including how to find a server, visit http://freenode.net/ (not affiliated with openSUSE either). cheers, Sonja -- Sonja Krause-Harder (skh(a)suse.de) Research & Development SUSE Linux Products GmbH --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-announce-unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-announce-help(a)opensuse.org

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