New subject: HW older than x86_64-v3 (was: openSUSE Release Engineering meeting 31.08.2022)

31 Aug 2022

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## Attendees
bittin, guillaumeg, lkocman, DimStar, ddemaio, adrian, richard, maxlin, 
mmeissner

## Leap

270.3 looks good, most failure are related to missing 15.5 /oss repo  
(more details below)
rest of upgrade failures are related to boo#1202963  (missing 
liborcus-0.16.so.0) I expect that to be fixed with next snapshot update. 
I did kill pending jobs, @ttm ignored all failures and started publish.

Publishing obs-> ftp-stage seems was fixed by Adrian during the call

https://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1202116
15.3 nvidia issue missing kernel-devel*57.3 in the GA repo (caused by 
rewriting ftp-trees as part of QU)
https://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:LeapQuarterlyUpdates_howto
Plan for 15.3 is that autobuild team will rsync ftp trees from OBS to 
pontifex (while ignorning /iso).
^ Plan for 15.4 ongoing is to not do it this way, perhaps we should 
simply start building DVD as part of live-images effort.
Our net-install image would not work as it expect to have the very same 
boot-related files from /oss. TW has this addressed according to Fabian

lkocman@pontifex2:/home/lkocman> cat /etc/fstab | grep 15.5
/srv/ftp/pub/opensuse/update/leap/15.5/oss_debug 
/srv/ftp/pub/opensuse/debug/update/leap/15.5/oss             auto 
bind                             0 0
/srv/ftp-stage/pub/opensuse/update/leap/15.5/oss_debug 
/srv/ftp-stage/pub/opensuse/debug/update/leap/15.5/oss       auto 
bind                             0 0

Current understanding (based on autobuild) is that we're waiting for 
maintenance team to finish channel creation. I did @ttm ignore all 
failures on last build so we have

Leap Micro 5.3 publish setup done, image build failures started by end 
of previous week. Originally I thought it was related to forking udica 
package, log is not super verbose, I'll reach out to snwint, currently 
images are rebuilding. (could be allso fixed from SLE Micro side).

pontifex / osrt-publish_distro (was ~mirror/publish-distro/publish_distro)

change was deployed to pontifex 
https://progress.opensuse.org/issues/115667 (discussed with heroes)
Next candidate for similar move could be scripts/wrappers in 
~mirror/bin, ~mirror is under git but not pushed (backed up) anywhere 
and we have some uncommited changes.

mirror@pontifex2:~> cat .git/config
[core]
         repositoryformatversion = 0
         filemode = true
         bare = false
         logallrefupdates = true

mirror@pontifex2:~> git diff | wc -l
85

Discussion about redesign and strategy of get oo.org for the ALP Release 
and last Leap etc and (related to support of HW older than x86_64-v3) 
more discussion during next weeks meeting

## openSUSE Tumbleweed

openSUSE:Factory build fail stats: 198 failed, 34 unresolvable (1 week 
ago: 233/18)
   https://tinyurl.com/ysy4nnnz

26 snapshots in a row without interruption - until today that is: 0830 
won't be published due to libxml2 update to 2.10.1, same so-version, but 
less features enabled thus not ABI compatible 
(https://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1202965)

* glibc 2.36 was published as part of snapshot 0827; no full rebuild was 
triggered, but in combination with libxml2 (which has like half the 
distro behind it), it's the right moment to do today

* Mozilla Thunderbird 102: I have received notice that the new 
integrated key manager (openpgp) is not very comfortable, especially as 
'searching keys' only queries openpgp.com, but no

^ news-o-o / factory@ announcement?
<bittin>: there is a new Thunderbird update 6th September 2022, with 
some bugfixes and security fixes, not sure whats fixed exactly however

## Richard (MicroOS)

BCI-for-Tumbleweed containers are progressing slowly
Richard moving his daily driver to another laptop, using the exercise as 
a detailed UX re-evaluation of MicroOS Desktop GNOMEs current status and 
hitlist for getting things polished up (lubos can help)
Currently hindered by investigating TPM/FDE issues with GRUB
<lubos>: jeos-firstboot wizard being used? or combustion
minimal installation use cases?

Richard: we should consider dropping transactional-server role - it is 
no longer maintained by it's creator (Richard) who believes MicroOS 
fully obsoletes it. There is also a discussion as to whether the minimal 
role should be removed due to it's large overlapping usecases with MicroOS

## Max

* The Backports checker is finished and the PR is open for review on 
Github and is open for suggestions
  https://github.com/openSUSE/openSUSE-release-tools/pull/2848
* Regarding to missing liborcus issue on the latest Leap snapshot, 
skippkg-finder removes liborcus 0.16 from the ftp-tree after it sees 
liborcus 0.17 was there, we need to update snpshots repo that should fix 
this problem

Trying to work to solve the missing liborcus-0.16.so.0 problem for Leap 15.5
Lubos: to request a snapshot-update today

*Drop python2* packages completely at the end of devel phase. We keep 
the interpret as a compromise as of now. dimstar: even python2 stuff 
still in TW

lkocman to setup meeting for the next steps
Rough idea: announce, keep interpret for some time to allow developer to 
rebuild packages, drop it with certain milestone (prior to Beta). Max: 
will check how many package still rely on python2 interpret(Alpha phase)

## Guillaume - Arm

Thanks for the backup while I was on vacation!

Tumbleweed:
     * Rolling, no blocker had a new snapshot yesterday 30th August 2022

Leap:
     * Started to work on 15.5 images

ALP:
     * We have 3 projects in OBS for ALP: devel:LEO (used by openQA 
atm), devel:ALP and SUSE:ALP. This would need some clarification to know 
where the work should happen.

lkocman: need to check on ARM:Images ARM:Images:ToTest (seems to be done)

## Sarah - s390

Not Available

DimStar: s390x is rolling again. Snapshot 0823 has been published (ahead 
of intel x86_64 thats on 0822).
DimStar: same issue again, we have an issue with workers
lkocman: to reach out to Sarah and Ihno (these issues are related to 
openQA - https://progress.opensuse.org/issues/115583 / 
https://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1202821).

## Doug

* Events
* Asked sponsor a Reproducible Builds event
* https://reproducible-builds.org/events/venice2022/
* Connected community rep for KDE Akademy (thx you Stathis)
* Submitted asknot-ng PR with several yml inputs
* Question on Twitter providing mixed results about the logo& brand 
colors - https://paste.opensuse.org/75722100
* TSP solution
* Discussions sound promissing. Should be briefed on new solution in the 
next two weeks
* ALP
* Will discuss marketing of it in community meeting
*  https://etherpad.opensuse.org/p/weeklymeeting20220901
* GSoC
* Planning to send swag to particpants
* Final evaluations due Sept. 19 at 18:00 UTC
<lubos>: Swag for Chinese students at the SUSE Office

## Dirk

Not available

Trying to keep the Factory-ARM project building
Debugging lack of publishing - Richard to investigate TTM
Will be on vacation for the next two weeks

## Wolfgang (Package Hub), Scott Bahling

Not available

sbahling: Still fixing Package Hub 15 SP4. Around 3500 packages missing 
compared to SP3. Almost daily customer issue reports. Requires 
Maintenance Service Center requests for channel modification to process. 
Seems to be a slow process. Priority on KDE and monitoring-plugins packages.

## Maintenance team (Marina or Marcus, Maurizio (m4u))

15.5

test update should go out in next test ours, the openSUSE setup is not 
yet done, we need to setup backports checks and pool repos, we have to 
do work on our side.
Marcus mailed us with project config.

The openSUSE / SLE side in IBS it seems to be ready, on openSUSE side 
there is a lot of setup that needs to be done first.

Adrian: the pool repos should be in place now.

Some openQA issues in one of the 15.4 groups (timeout), Marcus messaged 
QE core, however there seems to be no activity.

## Adrian - OBS

Working on 15.5 publishing and it should hopefully work now
and 15.3 FTP-tree is now downgraded on stage as the new media had NVIDIA 
bugs

openSUSE Leap 15.5 started building yesterday to be published
no update on SR mirroring issue (no feedback loop for submit request 
creators)

## Open Floor

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