August 2010 - openSUSE Boosters - openSUSE Mailing Lists

Egbert's Week 31
by Egbert Eich 08 Aug '10

08 Aug '10

Dealt with more L3 issues: - bnc-#618476: Xvnc is not really a well maintained piece of software. unfortunately my fix was for 11.2, had to port it to SLE-11 to make PTF builder happy. - bnc-#626657: I guessed that the usr ran: $ Xvnc :2 $ DISPLAY=:2 vncviewer localhost:2 which is definitely not not a good idea. - bnc-#598422: xdm issue. Either this bug has existed for ages or PAM has changed recently: pam_close_session() seems to want to do some output. Not a good idea if it gets called after the display has already been closed. - bnc-#604720: bogus touch event issue on NLPOS9: After looking into this a bit this might actually a configuration issue. - bnc-#623058/#615029 After some thinking, hose two could be the same. - prepared a report of the workload of the 3 people involved in the X Window System issues. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-boosters+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-boosters+help(a)opensuse.org

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Week reports 2010#29-30
by Vincent Untz 04 Aug '10

04 Aug '10

What I did two weeks ago? - started thinking hard about what to do for GNOME 3.0, and chatted with a few people about this. This killed my week, but retrospectively, this was essential before GUADEC. - standup meeting on Monday. - prepared the rough lines of a high-level GNOME roadmap, and how to introduce it - interview the people behind the Istanbul and Berlin bids for Desktop Summit 2011, and sent summary + recommendation to GNOME Foundation and KDE eV Boards - made the first release of gsettings-desktop-schemas, a module needed for the migration away from gconf to gsettings - reviewed many changes in GNOME:Factory submitted by Dominique. Extra care was needed because of various new things in the new GNOME. - registered a Desktop track for Linux Plumbers Conference. - during the last two days of the week, start crying because everything for the openSUSE/Novell presence at GUADEC started going wrong: the SUSE Studio Kiosk was nevert sent, and UPS lost the openSUSE banner (it made it on Monday of last week, thanks to Andreas who pinged UPS) What I did last week? - GUADEC, GUADEC, GUADEC - had my last face-to-face GNOME board meeting (I unsubscribed to the board mailing list yesterday, I'm free! ;-)) - participated to the advisory board meeting, mostly with my release team hat - met tons of people to discuss the GNOME 3.0 status - had a release team meeting to discuss GNOME 3.0 status - worked hard on the 3.0 plan and the announcement to delay 3.0 - gave an interview to Andreas from derStandard.at, which resulted in: http://derstandard.at/1277339083002/GNOME-30-delayed-until-March-2011 - attended a few talks (mostly lightning talks and shell-related talks) - met tons of people to discuss many other GNOME topics - gave away openSUSE conference bookmarks and geekos - had a dinner with Jos, since he lives not far away from the Hague - will blog about it today Cheers, Vincent -- Les gens heureux ne sont pas pressés. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-boosters+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-boosters+help(a)opensuse.org

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Thoughts on moving away all pointless KDE discussions from the opensuse@ list?
by Lubos Lunak 03 Aug '10

03 Aug '10

On Monday 02 of August 2010, Henne Vogelsang wrote: > On 08/02/2010 11:39 AM, Lubos Lunak wrote: > > [AMBER] > > - I wish I didn't have to read a long stupid useless repeating flamewar > > about KDE3/KDE4 every month > > Don't you know the Deutschland key? [D] :) Ok, this may sound like I'm joking, but I'm actually right now serious about this. I would like to enforce that these KDE flamewars no longer take place on the opensuse@ mailing list. I was originally going to say something like "make them to be considered offtopic", but the reality is that a good deal of them is already against the netiquette (off-topic, aggressive,...), so the problem is just that we let them exist. I think the reasons for removing the discussions from the mail user mailing list are rather simple: - they are responsible for a significant if not major portion of aggressive mails, if they're removed, it can possibly drive at least some of the trolls away, or at least remove a reason for them to show off - it annoys pretty much everybody on the list: - GNOME (or non-KDE users in general) couldn't care less, and of course the involved people ignore things like "there is a dedicated KDE list, move there" - KDE4-based people don't really care that much either, but they occassionally fuel the discussions by trying to argue - KDE3-based people either silently use the unsupported KDE:KDE3 repo, or not-so-silently take part in these flamewars, which prevents them from helping with the KDE:KDE3 repo, helping with improving KDE4, switching to GNOME, going playing tennis or getting a life - the possibly good results of these discussions are very unlikely to be worth the time wasted reading them and the negative energy generated (this is mostly because the discussions are generally pointless and nothing good at all comes out as a result) - the more noise on the mailing list, the more likely trolls will be attracted there and useful people will be driven away, and the other way around - how are we supposed to be a happy hugging loving community when we have something like this all the time? One way of handling this would be simply to start moderating these threads, since, as I said, they are often against the netiquette anyway. I would be willing to do the necessary work. An alternative (in addition to the above, of course, since without that apparently nothing would work), we could set up another mailing list dedicated to the purposes of whin^H^H^H^Hdiscussing finer aspects of Plasma's design, technical choices related to rewritting certain KDE components for KDE4 and other certainly very interesting topics that everybody who'd be for some reason interested could read there. That would be a way to shut up all those who'd like to point out censorship or similar nonsense. After all, creating a dedicated list for a topic that causes significant traffic on a list in order to reduce the load on the list is quite a common practice. I would be willing to take care of this "opensuse-kde-chat@" mailing list. What are your thoughts on this? This has been going on for years now. I expected that would have gone away at least with openSUSE no longer officially having KDE3, but that's apparently not the case, so this rubbish can keep going on for I have no idea how long. -- Lubos Lunak openSUSE Boosters team, KDE developer l.lunak(a)suse.cz , l.lunak(a)kde.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-boosters+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-boosters+help(a)opensuse.org

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Standup Meeting 2010-08-02
by Henne Vogelsang 03 Aug '10

03 Aug '10

present: cwh, robert, coolo, aj, lubos, pavol, michal, vincent, will, egbert absent: freitag, tschmidt, michl ======= general ======= * FrosCON For froscon this month we will not take care of the booth but only of the devroom. cwh can't make it either that means as of today the list of people that will go is: * Henne Vogelsang * Klaas Freitag * Robert Lihm * Pavol Rusnak * Michal Hrusecky * Lubos Lunak * Egbert Eich * Milestone assignment openfate: klaas, vincent, cwh, egbert junior jobs: will, lubos, coolo connect: michal, lubos, wiki: henne, tom * Discussion about prios Somewhere the discussion about our priorities popped up again. We still need to add a "Distribution" milestone where people can sprint on during releases and stuff so that people understand that we also have to deal with the distribution. This is a general thing people need to understand: The boosters can't be completely outside the general opensuse development! Or else we don't know shit about shit to teach to new contributors. But its also true that some of us still need to adjust their personal priorities. ======= standup ======= * junior jobs We did an idea collection and want to try to mimic KDE's JJ We are planing to filling those ideas into retrospectiva We are blocked by nothing * connect We did turn off the old instance and redirected it into the wiki and worked on a VM with the new ELG instance. We also started a collection of topics for the froscon devroom. We plan to announce the devroom properly and to collect participants for the devroom. We are blocked by nothing. * openfate We have done nothing We have nothing planed We are blocked by L3, Vacation and Guadec * wiki We did teach people about the new concept. Investigating short term search and spam solutions and talked to the the German wiki team which asked for help with the transition of their instance. We plan to work with the wiki team on the search & spam issues and to use the German wiki transition to put some flesh on the multi-language concept by bringing Help:Translation up to speed. We are blocked by nothing. Henne -- Henne Vogelsang, openSUSE. Everybody has a plan, until they get hit. - Mike Tyson -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-boosters+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-boosters+help(a)opensuse.org

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Work report Klaas Freitag cw 30/2010
by Klaas Freitag 03 Aug '10

03 Aug '10

Work report Klaas Freitag cw 30/2010 [RED] [AMBER] [GREEN] - Workshop around department setup and strategy, one full day - phone conference about Hermes at Novell Customer Center * some corrections on the hermes documentation * some code fixes - organizational tasks for FROSCon - Conference organization bits * mails to potential speakers * conference orga meeting - Organization for FrOSCon - Fiddled with bugs in an appliance - lots of administration and peoplemanagement -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-boosters+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-boosters+help(a)opensuse.org

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work report week 30
by Christopher Hofmann 03 Aug '10

03 Aug '10

Hi, I did: - vacation - some cleanups for my old team Christopher -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-boosters+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-boosters+help(a)opensuse.org

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Work report 30
by Lubos Lunak 02 Aug '10

02 Aug '10

[AMBER] - I wish I didn't have to read a long stupid useless repeating flamewar about KDE3/KDE4 every month [GREEN] - sent two openSUSE conf proposals (KDE re-branding and easy multidistro packages) - started to push on-demand package installation upstream, looks like a long discussion there too - the usual KDE repos fixes - selected one new shiny HDD from the ones everybody was throwing in my direction :) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-boosters+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-boosters+help(a)opensuse.org

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Workreport CW 30
by Robert Lihm 02 Aug '10

02 Aug '10

I spend my last week with this: * Added Buy-Box ad to shop.o.o and software.o.o * Made Setting Copies for PR-Kit Cheers, Robert --- Robert Lihm, Webdesigner - openSUSE Boosters Team SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, Maxfeldstr. 5, D-90409 Nuernberg Tel: +49-911-74053-0 - rlihm(a)suse.de ____________________________________________________________ SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) ____________________________________________________________ SUSE - a Novell business -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-boosters+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-boosters+help(a)opensuse.org

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work report wstephenson kw 30
by Will Stephenson 02 Aug '10

02 Aug '10

Week 30: * Fixed desktop icon theme problems (missing systray icons) in our 4.5 packages (bnc#623459) * Queued spellchecker bugs for kdelibs4 online update (bko#238026, bko#244907) * Helped community fix up KDE SC 4.5 openSUSE 11.3 livecd in time for release on Thursday * Fixed Image wallpaper defaults to slideshow on DnD (bko#245606) * Fixed missing Battery icon on default 4.5 desktop * Identified missing dependency needed for working Nepomuk OOTB on 11.3 thanks to Kraft * worked around bnc#585433 on the Live CD by shipping plasmoid-networkmanagement * Couldn't find a smoking gun for the Akonadi-Kontact race condition * Tested new KDE Bluetooth stack, filed bugs, using new Bluetooth headphones and mouse * Tested new UMTS stick, worked on first go (Huawei E161 o2 Surfstick 3) * Initiated community discussion about using Pulseaudio by default in KDE in 11.4 * Wrote openSUSE Conference abstracts Week 31: * Fix Amarok SLE11SP1 L3 bug * Support KDE SC 4.5 launch * Do old AIs * Fix knetworkmanager on 4.5 and 11.3 (bnc#585433) * Push upstream to stort out folderview kiosk problems -- Will Stephenson, KDE Developer, openSUSE Boosters Team SUSE LINUX Products GmbH - Nürnberg - AG Nürnberg - HRB 16746 - GF: Markus Rex -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-boosters+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-boosters+help(a)opensuse.org

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Status michl 2010-07-30
by Michael Loeffler 02 Aug '10

02 Aug '10

Product Manager for openSUSE PF openSUSE 11.3/11,4 PF get openSUSE PromoDVDs produced and shipped/stored PF Employee and Contributor boxes ordered and shipment/storage arranged PF openSUSE events PF planning of upcoming openSUSE events PF planning of openSUSE conference, - collected submissions - reached out to prospects directly - openSUSE conference IRC meeting on Thursday - PO requested - started with "real" organization (wifi, food, shuttle etc.) PF openSUSE.org PF Strategy publishing and discussion - oh man, that's a lot PF T-shirt production started PF creation of PR box for ambassadors, ordering and processing PF work with Novell India to get most out of the NCLP for student program there P PM & Boosters off site on Monday 19 PF participation in openSUSE marketing meeting PF openSUSE project and Board Meeting P Announcement of new Community Manager Jos PF Administration P met with Andreas to empower him being my deputy for my vacation -- Michael Löffler, Product Management SUSE LINUX Products GmbH - Nürnberg - AG Nürnberg - HRB 16746 - GF: Markus Rex -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-boosters+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-boosters+help(a)opensuse.org

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