January 2010 - openSUSE Boosters - openSUSE Mailing Lists

Threads in hermes mails
by Vincent Untz 14 May '11

14 May '11

Hey, I love hermes mails, but I would love them even more if the mails for one request where all grouped in a thread. So here's my completely untested attempt for this (and I'm not sure I'm still fluent in perl, so there might be some stupid errors). Is there any way to easily test this kind of things? Cheers, Vincent -- Les gens heureux ne sont pas pressés.

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[patch] Small fixes related to attributes for the stage branch
by Vincent Untz 01 Feb '10

01 Feb '10

Hey, Here's a small patch to fix two trivial issues with attributes in the stage branch of the webui. I guess this was things lost during a merge. (Note that package attributes are still not working correctly, but I sent a patch that could help for this) Vincent -- Les gens heureux ne sont pas pressés.

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week report #04
by Thomas Schmidt 29 Jan '10

29 Jan '10

I am not available on Monday, so here is my report for this week: - deployed hermes, starship from git. Created a starship capistrano script - www.o.o startpage: Traced a bug, Helped in fixing it - wiki.o.o: Got asked for help from the wiki team, fixed a bug that blocked the progresss of the wiki transition - berlios: Created commit mailinglist, asked people to use the svn more consequently for www.o.o and wiki.o.o deployments - fixed obs beta2 appliance in susestudio - wrote abstract for linuxtag talk Greetings -- Thomas Schmidt (tschmidt [at] suse.de) SUSE Linux Products GmbH :: Research & Development :: Tools "Don't Panic", Douglas Adams (1952 - 11.05.2001) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-boosters+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-boosters+help(a)opensuse.org

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Fwd: Re: [ruby-devel] Possibilities of web applications
by Klaas Freitag 27 Jan '10

27 Jan '10

Hi, FYI, in a 'seeking danger' mood I just posted that to ruby-devel, you might also be interested. I am wearing my helmet ;-) Klaas ---------- Weitergeleitete Nachricht ---------- Betreff: Re: [ruby-devel] Possibilities of web applications Datum: Mittwoch 27 Januar 2010 Von: Klaas Freitag <freitag(a)suse.de> An: ruby-devel(a)suse.de Hi, [the following post does not reflect the opinion of my employer nor is it meant to be offensive, please read with a ;-) in mind. I simply could not resist. I am looking forward to discussing. ] > the Google I/O 2009 conference keynote talks about and demos > some of the possibilities of web applications. > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S5aJAaGZIvk > > Highly recommended ! I stopped watching it after the explanation of the canvas, I hope I did not miss important things, but really it was enough for me. Google of course promotes the web and web apps because its their ecosystem and they really make good money out of it. From the google perspective its clear, but from our? I know, customers are asking for web apps, webapps are cool. They are cross platform and they are 'always there', you just need a browser. Other benefits? Hmmm. No standards in GUI elements, as a result no "standard GUIs", problems with security, performance, local data keeping, accessability etc. - all these kind of problems are not taken into account. The customer will notice these later, although we already went through all that. But what me as a developer bothers most is: Google wants us to redo from start, today it's called Javascript, not BASIC as it was called earlier, the language where people who claim they're software development experts tell us that they produce well tested, well engineered, reusable, maintainable and 'nice' code which is portable. All progress we did with object orientation over the years, with patterns for example is thrown away with Javascript. Instead we return into dark times without versioned libraries for example which don't provide real interfaces. Well, ok, I know, Rails for example is really going into the right direction, but still: Behind that we often stumble through a dark swamp of Javascript. Or who here in the audience has ever fixed a bug in jquery for example? Noone would argue that we have great alternatives on the desktop. With todays Qt or GTK toolkits nobody would go on a stage and show the "canvas example" because it is laughable to ask for applause for drawing a line on a canvas. Thats standard for years, using the device specific benefits like acceleration. Speaking about cross platform, yeah, you probably know that the browsers, in which one plays the Javascript are implemented with one of these toolkits, so what is really portable? I claim that the only reason why people really want webapps is: They are fed up with installing stuff. Installing and updating stuff on a machine is pain, early windows versions did a great job to poison all computer users with the software-install-does-not-really-work trauma. But wait, browsers still need to be installed locally. But that is not so bad as they have these neat feature that you only have to click "ok" if it tells you that its already old and can be replaced. All I am wondering about: I thought WE are the experts in software management? I know we have really great tools for that. So we have all bits and peaces together to make it completely easy and enjoyable for users to update their desktop (or personal device) software. We are not yet there, which I could experience with Fate for example where people always complained when they were asked to update. Fate was not asking "Do you want me to quickly upgrade myself?" because it was not easy to implement. I think we could make these kind of things easy, if we would investigate in that, rather than in latest web stuff. BTW, please do not associate desktop software with "not using the cloud" or internet or so. Everything is possible of course. Please also be sure to check out for example http://labs.trolltech.com/blogs/2009/05/13/qt-declarative-ui/ and see how little code is needed to do really breathtaking UIs with todays (gui) toolkits. How long will Javascript need to catch up? Yes, I know, you can have Win3.11 in Javascript - but who really is asking for ? ;-) regards, Klaas ------------------------------------------------------------- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-boosters+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-boosters+help(a)opensuse.org

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workreport
by Marcus Rueckert 26 Jan '10

26 Jan '10

[AMBER] - saved download.o.o we need better coordination with big update releases. [GREEN] - fixing security bugs - working on more detailed plan for the umbrella project. - minor fixes for the opensuse infrastructure - discussed future of opensuse infrastructure with services team especially the migration of community.o.o - worked on the last bits from our investigation part mainly mongodb. darix -- openSUSE - SUSE Linux is my linux openSUSE is good for you www.opensuse.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-boosters+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-boosters+help(a)opensuse.org

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workreport kw 3
by Klaas Freitag 25 Jan '10

25 Jan '10

[RED] [AMBER] - Vincent was confrontated with a time consuming SLED GNOME L3 bug. Alex Laus team was taking over, thanks, but there seems not to be a reliable commitment on this. - Darix got the request to maintain additional ruby packages on the SLE SDK to the ones he already has. These packages are used with our commercial projects like SUSE Studio, WebYast, Hawk and SLMS, as well as the OBS. I am not happy with additional packages on SLE for Darix. Solution: Will bring it up on the ruby-devel list and ask for help for Darix. - I still don't really love git. Well, well... [GREEN] - FOSDEM organsiation tasks - investigated a bit around features for 11.3 - Implemented Twitter and HTTP for Hermes, approaching a release. - started to think and discuss about Linuxtag - prepared a talk for Siemens about free software and the openSUSE project, held in front of around 50 mainly Solaris developers. Interesting experience, nice feedback. - Booster Sprint Meeting, result here: http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-boosters/2010-01/msg00028.html - Upstream Fun: There is a new mailinglist kde-finance-apps around synergies with apps like KMyMoney, Scrooge, Kraft and friends. That starts really promising! Plan: - FOSDEM preparation - Hermes Deployment - Hermes Release -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-boosters+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-boosters+help(a)opensuse.org

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work report kw2+3 wstephenson
by Will Stephenson 25 Jan '10

25 Jan '10

[GREEN] * arranged accommodation for Plasma sprint * prepared talks for Camp KDE * Travelled to San Diego * Gave talk on what distributions do for upstream, and why upstream should work closer with distro * Gave talk on the OBS for upstreams and 3rd party developers * Held OBS workshop * Attended Qt training * Avoided being blown away in the worst weather southern California had in living memory * read the Git book and What Every Programmer Should Know About Memory on the plane [What I plan to do] * fix KDE 4.4 Akonadi startup errors before 4.4.0 is released next week * fix KNetworkManager hidden networks bug * blog about openSUSE at Camp KDE * bisect a phonon-gstreamer backend bug that was fixed since 4.3 * finalise Plasma sprint accommodation and meal Will -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-boosters+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-boosters+help(a)opensuse.org

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Work Report Henne
by Henne Vogelsang 25 Jan '10

25 Jan '10

Hi, what i did: ----------- * Finalize the FOSDEM schedule things * Announced FOSDEM on devel * Another lists.o.o outage. This time one HD ran full... * Sprint meeting * The usual meetings * Bugs/Features what I'm planing to do: ----------------------- * Finish the last bit's and pieces for FOSDEM * Kick people about LinuxTag talks * Finally start to migrate pages to the new wiki * Bugs/Features * Work on the retrospectiva data * Make others work on the retrospectiva data what is blocking me: -------------------- N/A Henne -- Henne Vogelsang, openSUSE. Everybody has a plan, until they get hit. - Mike Tyson -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-boosters+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-boosters+help(a)opensuse.org

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week report #3
by Thomas Schmidt 25 Jan '10

25 Jan '10

- deployed internal build service with coolo - fix webclient bugs and help adrian with 1.7 release - worked on sprint: status page (build failure comments) - offered help for maintaining www.opensuse.org no reply... :-( Greetings -- Thomas Schmidt (tschmidt [at] suse.de) SUSE Linux Products GmbH :: Research & Development :: Tools "A strange game. The only winning move is not to play.", Wargames -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-boosters+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-boosters+help(a)opensuse.org

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work report kw3 prusnak
by Pavol Rusnak 25 Jan '10

25 Jan '10

[GREEN] - preparations for FOSDEM and UINX talks - arranged openSUSE presence at InstallFest - coordinating the visit of Jiri Vetvicka from opensuse.cz portal - fixed cfarrell's MongoDB package together with darix -- Best Regards / S pozdravom, Pavol RUSNAK SUSE LINUX, s.r.o openSUSE Boosters Team Lihovarska 1060/12 PGP 0xA6917144 19000 Praha 9, CR prusnak[at]suse.cz http://www.suse.cz -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-boosters+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-boosters+help(a)opensuse.org

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