Carlos E. R. composed on 2016-03-05 23:16 (UTC+0100):

I was reading a magazine comparison article on video editors for Linux, and the chap said that kdenlive crashed a lot on the distro he was using and had to use another distro where it was stable. I'll post the link later, it is on another machine.

Maybe: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2015/12/26/linux_video_editors/ but I get only timeouts trying. https://web.archive.org/web/20160305013750/http://www.theregister.co.uk/2015... only has page 1 -- "The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 On 2016-03-05 21:55, jdd wrote:

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kdenlive - Well... crashes too often. I can mark the cuts, but it does not display what I'm cutting. And only one sound track.

I use kdenlive without problem for at least two years now (13.2, Leap), but for your language problem, I don't know. Avidemux (given his name) should do the job.

No, avidemux only reads one sound track from the mpeg file. It wants a second sound track to be on another different file.

If you can have video + langages, simply paste them in kdenlive audio tracks

How? The source mpeg file has one video track and two sound tracks. I want all three in the resulting edited file. Kdenlive ignores the second audio track. - -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 13.1 x86_64 "Bottle" (Minas Tirith)) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.22 (GNU/Linux) iF4EAREIAAYFAlbbVzEACgkQja8UbcUWM1zRCQEAjE65wNcD/FoGtIdoLwNBqDPd QXw7cNP23wijVin29TYBAI1r3A7BsmmllZfKHPEBOUJLG6DeAHrGvZ1C5wf6y420 =mmX/ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

On 2016-03-06 16:44, David Haller wrote:

Hello,

On Sat, 05 Mar 2016, Carlos E. R. wrote:

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No, avidemux only reads one sound track from the mpeg file. It wants a second sound track to be on another different file.

Try this:

Open the video, Cut as you wish. Then:

- goto Audio -> Main Track and select Audio-Track 1 (e.g. es, dubbed) - goto Audio -> Save (e.g. as out_1.ac3) - goto Audio -> Main Track and select Audio-Track 0 (e.g. en, orig) - goto File -> Save (e.g. as out.avi) - mux Video and Audio with avimerge or better mkvmerge, e.g.:

mkvmerge -o out.mkv out.avi out_1.ac3

This is an horrible hack. It must be done in a single shot by software that understand how to deal with multiple languages. Kdenlive does not support multiple language tracks, there is a bugzilla about it. And avidemux3 aborts, it is not usable. Maybe I have to use Windows to get a decent video editor :-/ -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 13.1 x86_64 "Bottle" at Telcontar)

On 2016-03-07 20:12, jdd wrote:

Maybe I have to use Windows to get a decent video editor :-/ you will have the same problems.

some notes:

* your file is very large. Can you record some example of 5 or 10 s and post them somewhere for we to try?

Well, I would have to do it with dd for reliability. No tool I know so far can copy video and audio (two tracks) cutting a region without crashing or manipulating the tracks. I can not tell the recorder to start and stop at points of my choosing. I have to tell it to record certain program, and it chooses the points from the official start and end times of the program. If I stop the recording, it deletes the file.

* I can't verify right now, but I'm reasonably sure ffmpeg can extract all video and audio from ant file

Yes, it can, but it does manipulation of the original so that may you would not see the problems I see.

* I think (only?) mkv can have several audio tracks

No, avi can as well. What is not typical is to include subtitles on avi, but it is on mkv.

When demuxing, all the tracks have the very same lengh (about time, not size, of course), so they can be worked on easily

it may be easier, then, to move them to mp4, for example, before editing to have the smaller file possible, because, of course, you can't edit the tracks separately :-(

No tool I know can do it. If I tell ffmpg to convert the entire stream to something, there are losses. If then use another editor to remove sections, there are more losses. -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 13.1 x86_64 "Bottle" at Telcontar)

On 2016-03-07 21:59, jdd wrote:

that's curious. really no way to give day/time to start and stop?? what model?

No model. Telefonica fibre service. I get a "client", and they do the recording in their servers, not in my house. Later, I can play it with kodi and save the stream (the full stream, not a part of it).

are there no very short program? in France we have some 30s long :)

Not that I can see. -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 13.1 x86_64 "Bottle" at Telcontar)

On 2016-03-07 22:09, jdd wrote:

Le 07/03/2016 21:17, Carlos E. R. a écrit :

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If I tell ffmpg to convert the entire stream to something, there are losses. If then use another editor to remove sections, there are more losses.

For MTS files:

if there are loss, it means the original file is bad.

I mean that most video codec compress at a loss of data, same as jpeg, mp3, etc. They remove detail from the image so that it compresses more.

Only ProjectX can demux it, and only on SD files. It's extremely slow. I know of no other program able to do so.

I find it very fast, but I'm able to use it only on the movies from one machine.

(NB: I just visited Toledo today, wonderful city!!)

Indeed! It is. :-) If you like old cities, try to visit Cuenca (shouth-east of Madrid). Toledo was capital of the empire with Carlos I, an important city several times. Cuenca is very much "provincial", big contrast. "Deep Spain" so to speak. Segovia (north of Madrid) is also interesting. For you, if you go there, stop at "La Granja (de San Idelfonso)", which would only be a village, were it not for having the summer palace of the first Borbons in Spain. The gardens where designed by Le Nôtre, who also did Versalles. -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 13.1 x86_64 "Bottle" at Telcontar)

On 2016-03-07 22:12, jdd wrote:

Le 07/03/2016 21:17, Carlos E. R. a écrit :

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Well, I would have to do it with dd for reliability.

dd can't cut any video file. key word is "GOP" (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Group_of_pictures)

I have done it once, I think, and it partially works. The viewer traverses the file till it finds a point at which it can "start". Doesn't work with all formats. -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 13.1 x86_64 "Bottle" at Telcontar)

On 2016-03-10 11:43, jdd wrote:

upload your smaller file :-)

A one gig file? Yes, sure, tell me where to upload. The only place I have is google drive, but I don't think it would take it. -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 13.1 x86_64 "Bottle" at Telcontar)

On 2016-03-08 08:54, David Haller wrote:

Hello,

On Mon, 07 Mar 2016, Carlos E. R. wrote:

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On 2016-03-07 20:12, jdd wrote:

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* your file is very large. Can you record some example of 5 or 10 s and post them somewhere for we to try?

Well, I would have to do it with dd for reliability. No tool I know so far can copy video and audio (two tracks) cutting a region without crashing or manipulating the tracks.

mkvmerge!

mkvmerge --split parts:+3:00-6:00,+9:00-12:00 -o foo.mkv foo.mts

Does it recode or alter the bitflow in any manner? The purpose of this is for creating a chunk of reasonable size for sending to others to try different tools. If the file is altered in any manner, the test is meaningless.

You could use avidemux2/3 to find the timecodes ... Or just use avidemux as I've described.

Have you tried what I proposed you to do?

Sorry, at this instant I forgot what it was. I have done so many tests... :-? -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 13.1 x86_64 "Bottle" at Telcontar)

On 2016-03-06 02:21, Carlos E. R. wrote:

mpeg2dec built and installed successfully (without an rpm, 'make install'). However, "make gopchop" produces C syntax errors with which I'm not familiar:

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Main.cpp:91:23: warning: deprecated conversion from string constant to ‘char*’ [-Wwrite-strings] char *GOPchop_cvsid = "$Id: Main.cpp 346 2009-03-02 23:26:02Z keescook $";

The code section was: char *GOPchop_cvsid = "$Id: Main.cpp 346 2009-03-02 23:26:02Z keescook $"; I change it to: const char *GOPchop_cvsid = "$Id: Main.cpp 346 2009-03-02 23:26:02Z keescook $"; and make is happy on this one after also changing that declaration in the main.h file. The next one, an error, not a warning. Main.cpp:139:1: error: C99 designator ‘video_driver’ outside aggregate initializer }; The code is: global_options options={ run_loop: 0, /* don't wrap arround by default */ run_speed: 1, /* one frame at a time by default */ default_run_speed: 1, /* one frame at a time by default */ auto_refresh: 1, /* show gop position changes by default */ ignore_errors: 0, /* don't ignore errors by default */ drop_orphaned_frames: 0, /* orphaned frame dropping can be nasty */ adjust_timestamps: 1, /* adjust by default */ video_driver_ptr: NULL, /* prefered video driver */ video_driver: "\0", force_system_header: 0, /* force prepended system header pack */ drop_trailing_pack_with_system_header: 0, /* drop final pack if it has a system header */ ignore_endcode: 0, /* don't stop parsing when an End Code is seen */ }; What do I do here? I think it refers to this one: video_driver: "\0", Let me see... the declaration is: typedef struct { gboolean run_loop; /* when in "Run" mode, wrap to beginning at end */ int run_speed; /* how many GOPs to jump forward during "run" */ int default_run_speed; /* the speed to start with upon load */ gboolean auto_refresh; /* redraw the frames after moving the slider */ gboolean ignore_errors; /* don't store errors about file loading */ gboolean drop_orphaned_frames; /* get rid of starting B frames on an open GOP */ gboolean adjust_timestamps; /* adjust the GOP timestamps as we write clips */ gchar* video_driver_ptr; --> gchar video_driver[24]; /* this is the name of the video driver to use */ gboolean force_system_header; /* should a system header be prepended */ gboolean drop_trailing_pack_with_system_header;/* should final pack with a system header be dropped? */ gboolean ignore_endcode; /* should parsing continue past an end code? */ } global_options; I have no idea what to write instead of video_driver: "\0", (that is the remaining hurdle) Next. Main.cpp:152:1: warning: deprecated conversion from string constant to ‘char*’ [-Wwrite-strings] }; ^ code is: rc_parse_item parsable_items[] = { { "run_loop", &options.run_loop, RC_TYPE_BOOLEAN }, { "default_run_speed", &options.default_run_speed, RC_TYPE_INTEGER }, { "auto_refresh", &options.auto_refresh, RC_TYPE_BOOLEAN }, { "ignore_errors", &options.ignore_errors, RC_TYPE_BOOLEAN }, { "drop_orphaned_frames", &options.drop_orphaned_frames, RC_TYPE_BOOLEAN }, { "adjust_timestamps", &options.adjust_timestamps, RC_TYPE_BOOLEAN }, { "video_driver_ptr", &options.video_driver_ptr, RC_TYPE_STRING }, { "force_system_header", &options.force_system_header, RC_TYPE_BOOLEAN }, { "drop_trailing_pack_with_system_header", &options.drop_trailing_pack_with_system_header, RC_TYPE_BOOLEAN }, { "ignore_endcode", &options.ignore_endcode, RC_TYPE_BOOLEAN }, { NULL, NULL, 0 } }; main.h: extern rc_parse_item parsable_items[]; rc.h: typedef struct rc_parse_item_t { char * option; /* name of the rc option */ void * variable; /* variable to load into */ int vartype; /* type of option to load */ } rc_parse_item; So I guess I have to change to: const char * option; I make. One error remains: Main.cpp:139:1: error: C99 designator ‘video_driver’ outside aggregate initializer }; ^ (this one is already above, and I don't know what to do about it) Next one is a warning: Main.cpp: In function ‘void handle_rc_load()’: Main.cpp:828:39: warning: deprecated conversion from string constant to ‘char*’ [-Wwrite-strings] if (rc_load(PACKAGE,parsable_items)) ^ The code is: typedef struct rc_parse_item_t { const char * option; /* name of the rc option */ void * variable; /* variable to load into */ int vartype; /* type of option to load */ } rc_parse_item; ... int rc_save(char * package, rc_parse_item * items); int rc_load(char * package, rc_parse_item * items); ... rc_parse_item parsable_items[] = { { "run_loop", &options.run_loop, RC_TYPE_BOOLEAN }, { "default_run_speed", &options.default_run_speed, RC_TYPE_INTEGER }, { "auto_refresh", &options.auto_refresh, RC_TYPE_BOOLEAN }, { "ignore_errors", &options.ignore_errors, RC_TYPE_BOOLEAN }, { "drop_orphaned_frames", &options.drop_orphaned_frames, RC_TYPE_BOOLEAN }, { "adjust_timestamps", &options.adjust_timestamps, RC_TYPE_BOOLEAN }, { "video_driver_ptr", &options.video_driver_ptr, RC_TYPE_STRING }, { "force_system_header", &options.force_system_header, RC_TYPE_BOOLEAN }, { "drop_trailing_pack_with_system_header", &options.drop_trailing_pack_with_system_header, RC_TYPE_BOOLEAN }, { "ignore_endcode", &options.ignore_endcode, RC_TYPE_BOOLEAN }, { NULL, NULL, 0 } }; if (rc_load(PACKAGE,parsable_items)) fprintf(stderr,"%s",_("Could not load rc file -- using defaults.\n")); I don't understand why it is giving a warning there :-? -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 13.1 x86_64 "Bottle" at Telcontar)

On 2016-03-07 07:46, Roger Oberholtzer wrote:

On Sun, Mar 6, 2016 at 2:06 AM, Carlos E. R. <> wrote:

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I want to try "gopchop" (http://gopchop.sourceforge.net/). I don't find it ready built. So I try to build it. Configure fails here:

I use gopchop for the edits I do. It depends on your source format. The nice thing about gopchop is that it does not decode/encode the file. It just cuts out whatever is between GOP markers. So it is fast, there is no degredation of the results, and whatever was in the source is in the destination.

Exactly. That's why I want it.

I never had any problems building it.

What version? I have 1.1.8 from sourceforge, and the compiler throws an error: Main.cpp:139:1: error: C99 designator ‘video_driver’ outside aggregate initializer }; The code is: global_options options={ run_loop: 0, /* don't wrap arround by default */ run_speed: 1, /* one frame at a time by default */ default_run_speed: 1, /* one frame at a time by default */ auto_refresh: 1, /* show gop position changes by default */ ignore_errors: 0, /* don't ignore errors by default */ drop_orphaned_frames: 0, /* orphaned frame dropping can be nasty */ adjust_timestamps: 1, /* adjust by default */ video_driver_ptr: NULL, /* prefered video driver */ video_driver: "\0", force_system_header: 0, /* force prepended system header pack */ drop_trailing_pack_with_system_header: 0, /* drop final pack if it has a system header */ ignore_endcode: 0, /* don't stop parsing when an End Code is seen */ }; I think it refers to this one: video_driver: "\0", Let me see... the declaration is: typedef struct { gboolean run_loop; /* when in "Run" mode, wrap to beginning at end */ int run_speed; /* how many GOPs to jump forward during "run" */ int default_run_speed; /* the speed to start with upon load */ gboolean auto_refresh; /* redraw the frames after moving the slider */ gboolean ignore_errors; /* don't store errors about file loading */ gboolean drop_orphaned_frames; /* get rid of starting B frames on an open GOP */ gboolean adjust_timestamps; /* adjust the GOP timestamps as we write clips */ gchar* video_driver_ptr; --> gchar video_driver[24]; /* this is the name of the video driver to use */ gboolean force_system_header; /* should a system header be prepended */ gboolean drop_trailing_pack_with_system_header;/* should final pack with a system header be dropped? */ gboolean ignore_endcode; /* should parsing continue past an end code? */ } global_options; I have no idea what to write instead of video_driver: "\0", -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 13.1 x86_64 "Bottle" at Telcontar)

I made the needed changes and gopchop compiles. At least on Leap. I can send you the modified files. When I get a chance I can put it on OBS. But you are welcome to the mods if you want them. On Mon, Mar 7, 2016 at 4:27 PM, Roger Oberholtzer <roger.oberholtzer@gmail.com> wrote:

On Mon, Mar 7, 2016 at 3:01 PM, Carlos E. R. <robin.listas@telefonica.net> wrote:

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On 2016-03-07 07:46, Roger Oberholtzer wrote:

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I never had any problems building it.

What version? I have 1.1.8 from sourceforge, and the compiler throws an error:

I will check what I have at home. IIRC, the laptop I was using for this was recently replaced with Leap. So I guess I have a newer c++ compiler. I will see what I can come up with. I know that string constants do throw lots of compiler warnings if they are not specified as C++ now likes thenm. Not sure about the other errors.

Maybe I should add gopchop to OBS. If I get it to compile.

-- Roger Oberholtzer

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On 2016-03-07 20:22, Carlos E. R. wrote:

On 2016-03-07 19:15, Roger Oberholtzer wrote:

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I made the needed changes and gopchop compiles. At least on Leap. I can send you the modified files.

Yes, please :-) Just email me them. I want to learn how to correct those errors in the code. My C/C++ is rusty.

Ok, got it, thankyou. Unfortunately, gopchop doesn't like my video files :-( I try with a much smaller video and at smaller resolution, a documentary of 1GB. cer@Telcontar:~/Videos/Fusion> gopchop (gopchop:17828): Gtk-WARNING **: GtkSpinButton: setting an adjustment with non-zero page size is deprecated (gopchop:17828): Gtk-WARNING **: GtkSpinButton: setting an adjustment with non-zero page size is deprecated parse_MPEG2_program_stream @ 0(0,00%): expecting pack_start_code, got 0x47 0x40 0x00 0x3B parse_MPEG2_program_stream @ 102400(0,01%): garbage data seen from 0 to 102400. parse_MPEG2_program_stream @ 102400(0,01%): More than 100K of garbage -- aborting parse. parse_MPEG2_program_stream @ 102400(0,01%): expecting MPEG_program_end_code marker (length 4) No Groups of Pictures found! Loaded /home_aux/cer/Fusion/Las 13 claves del Apolo 13 Episodio 1.mpeg in 0 seconds (1MB/s) So, dead end here. We could only try... thank you very much for solving the errors in the code so that it would build. Next thing to try is to expand the video file, uncompress it to DV. I'm at a loss what "codec" to use with ffmpeg, perhaps "--target dv" :-? -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 13.1 x86_64 "Bottle" at Telcontar)

On 2016-03-07 22:08, Charles Philip Chan wrote:

"Carlos E. R." <robin.listas@telefonica.net> writes:

Hi Carlos:

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Ok, got it, thankyou. Unfortunately, gopchop doesn't like my video files :-(

What device produce such terrible mpeg2 files? Maybe if you tell us, a Google search will yield more info. I uses to do a lot of commercial cutting with the mpeg2 files produced by my WinTV HVR-2250 with Avidemux with no problems (one audio track).

It is not hardware, it is my ISP. You get a client, they do the recording in their servers, not my home. Later I can play it on the sitting room TV, or in my computer, using kodi and a third party plugin. This plugin is able to record locally a recording in the cloud. I may search the forum that recommended this plugin and see what they use for edit, but most of them are Windows people. -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 13.1 x86_64 "Bottle" at Telcontar)

On Tue, Mar 8, 2016 at 8:06 AM, David Haller <dnh@opensuse.org> wrote:

Hello,

On Mon, 07 Mar 2016, Roger Oberholtzer wrote:

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I made the needed changes and gopchop compiles.

A few ;)

I just did the few to remove compiler errors and warnings. But the printf() corrections you did also seem needed. gopchop has some unneccessarily complicated code, IMHO. But then again, I am a C type of guy.

I have a clean compile (from 12.1 to Leap) at http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/dnh/

heavily based on your diffs and .spec, even though I changed/reworked quite a bit too ;)

I was fighting with the libxml2 stuff. It refused to complete the configure step. I see your different BuildRequires for that and a few other libs. Why are these needing to be specified differently? -- Roger Oberholtzer -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

Roger Oberholtzer <roger.oberholtzer@gmail.com> writes:

I use gopchop for the edits I do. It depends on your source format. The nice thing about gopchop is that it does not decode/encode the file. It just cuts out whatever is between GOP markers. So it is fast, there is no degredation of the results, and whatever was in the source is in the destination.

Avidemux does the same if you use "copy" (subject to the limitations of the source material). I have used Avidemux (now or version 3) with no problems. Charles -- "The move was on to 'Free the Lizard'" -- Jim Hamerly and Tom Paquin (Open Sources, 1999 O'Reilly and Associates)

On 2016-03-06 02:20, Basil Chupin wrote:

On 06/03/16 05:39, Carlos E. R. wrote:

I know that you state below that you tried Cinelerra (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cinelerra) but believe me this is the one that you want to use. I have used it to edit recorded movies (removing commercials, eg) and it is the ants pants for editing videos. Spend just a LITTLE bit of time to read how to use it and you will not regret the time spent.

It does not have a "help" menu entry. What do I read? Just resize the "compositor" window and I see redraw artifacts: bad coding. I just told it to load a video (12 GB), and after a few minutes it still hasn't finished opening the file, nor do I see any change in the display. Ok, it finished loading, but I do not see any preview anywhere. I don't see where to move forward and backward to set the cut points. I enter what seems cutpoints, and instead what it does is draw a waveform with the mouse. WHAT? This is WAY OVER MY HEAD! I just want a SIMPLE editor to remove regions of the movie, not a zillions windows and options I can't understand at all. -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 13.1 x86_64 "Bottle" at Telcontar)

On 2016-03-06 06:28, Billie Walsh wrote:

On 03/05/2016 07:32 PM, Carlos E. R. wrote:

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I just want a SIMPLE editor to remove regions of the movie, not a zillions windows and options I can't understand at all.

A the list of stating a war, I/we use Pinacle in Windows to edit shows for our TV station. Quick and simple. I've never seen a video editor for Linux that can come close for ease of use.

Well... At this point I consider everything, but this desktop computer is not double boot to Windows, My laptop is, but not powerful enough for video editing all day. -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 13.1 x86_64 "Bottle" at Telcontar)

On 2016-03-06 10:30, Basil Chupin wrote:

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It does not have a "help" menu entry. What do I read?

It's all here:

http://heroinewarrior.com/cinelerra/cinelerra.html

Huge manual full text, few images. I read a bit. Ok, I load my video. If I press the "play" icon, should it play? It does not. In the track timeline windows I only see Audio tracks, and a flat audio, no waveform. I can draw my own waverform with the mouse, whatever that is good for... In "viewver", play does nothing. Moving the romboid slider does nothing. I assume it should display images from the video, but it does not. I try another movie, much smaller. Same thing, nothing is displayed. I can't do anything with this software if I simply can't view the video... -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 13.1 x86_64 "Bottle" at Telcontar)

On 03/06/2016 08:32 AM, Carlos E. R. wrote:

If I define a new project with one video track and two audio tracks, then load a video, after loading it, resets to 4 empty audio tracks.

I forgot to mention that Pinnacle doesn't display two [ stereo ] audio. It shows a kind of composite audio track during edit. To be fair, the version I'm using is about four versions old so the newer versions have a way different GUI so..................... -- Fast is fine, but accuracy is final. You must learn to be slow in a hurry. -Wyatt Earp- _ _... ..._ _ _._ ._ ..... ._.. ... .._ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

On 2017-06-06 22:28, Felix Miata wrote:

Basil Chupin composed on 2016-03-06 12:20 (UTC+1100):

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I know that you state below that you tried Cinelerra (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cinelerra) but believe me this is the one that you want to use. I have used it to edit recorded movies (removing commercials, eg) and it is the ants pants for editing videos. Spend just a LITTLE bit of time to read how to use it and you will not regret the time spent.

Where did you get yours? It's not in Packman, at least not for 42.2.

Can cinelerra work with dual sound track videos? Several good video apps can only work with one language, they discard the other. In Spain, many films are "dual": say, English and Spanish, and of course, I want to keep both tracks. Oh, I see this is an old thread of mine. At the time, cinelerra-cv was available. I posted:

cinelerra-cv - I can't make head or tails of it. I tell it to load a video file, it does, but then I don't see how to do anything. It doesn't even display the video. I may have to read the manual, but I dislike having to read a manual for a GUI. Still...

My notes on it say that I could not make it work at all. -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 42.2 x86_64 "Malachite" at Telcontar)

On Tue, 6 Jun 2017 16:28:31 -0400 Felix Miata wrote:

Basil Chupin composed on 2016-03-06 12:20 (UTC+1100):

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I know that you state below that you tried Cinelerra (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cinelerra) but believe me this is the one that you want to use. I have used it to edit recorded movies (removing commercials, eg) and it is the ants pants for editing videos. Spend just a LITTLE bit of time to read how to use it and you will not regret the time spent.

Where did you get yours? It's not in Packman, at least not for 42.2.

I believe Packman may have removed Cinelerra because it has been forked and at least one branch is building it's own packages for the major distributions. The two websites I know of are these, with the latter one containing articles and links about the fork: http://cinelerra.org/ and https://cinelerra-cv.org/ My system is running 64-bit openSUSE Leap 42.2 and I was able to install Cinelerra after adding the following repository and using zypper to install package 'cinelerra' the current version (recently updated) is 5.1-20170531 Repository Name: cincv URL: https://cinelerra-cv.org/five/pkgs/leap/ Category: YUM hth & regards, Carl -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

On 2017-06-13 13:51, gumb wrote:

On 06/06/17 22:28, Felix Miata wrote:

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Basil Chupin composed on 2016-03-06 12:20 (UTC+1100):

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I know that you state below that you tried Cinelerra (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cinelerra) but believe me this is the one that you want to use. I have used it to edit recorded movies (removing commercials, eg) and it is the ants pants for editing videos. Spend just a LITTLE bit of time to read how to use it and you will not regret the time spent.

Where did you get yours? It's not in Packman, at least not for 42.2.

Peculiar, I can no longer find the beginning of this thread either in my mail program (which discards everything more than 30 days old) or on the ML archives. But I seem to recall it being a question about a simple way of cutting/joining videos.

Because it goes back a good way, more than a year ;-) Date: Sat, 5 Mar 2016 19:39:01 +0100 (CET) From: Carlos E. R. <robin.listas@...> To: OS-en <opensuse@opensuse.org> Subject: [opensuse] Again, trying to find a suitable video editor.

And I think everybody piled in with the usual suggestions of Kdenlive, etc. But you might be better off with a more simple, dedicated tool such as Avidemux, or Vidcutter: https://www.linux-apps.com/p/1180755

The problem with avidemux is that it does only one sound track. I need two, because movies in Spain come dubbed to Spanish, but usually also contain the original sound track. Naturally I want to keep both. Vidcutter I haven't tried, wasn't mentioned in the original thread. Description: The simplest & sexiest tool for cutting and joining your videos without the need for re-encoding or a diploma in multimedia. VidCutter focuses on getting the job done using tried and true tech in its arsenal via mpv and FFmpeg. I like that idea, I do not want to recode, just remove commercials. -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 42.2 x86_64 "Malachite" at Telcontar)

On 2017-06-13 18:00, Felix Miata wrote:

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Vidcutter I haven't tried, wasn't mentioned in the original thread. . Tried. No good. http://lists.links2linux.de/pipermail/packman/2017-June/015248.html . I do not want to recode, just remove commercials. . I have to recode in most cases. The commercials are typically shoehorned in without enough black between commercials to keep the entirety of the program starts and ends unless doing frame accurate cutting. Avidemux in copy mode won't. In frame accurate mode it takes hours to decode, the two times I tried, it produced a quarter-sized file that plays worse than an LP VHS tape, and the other time a gigantic file 9X the size of the original that I didn't even try to

Carlos E. R. composed on 2017-06-13 14:05 (UTC+0200): . play.

From some reads it appears that it is able to cut sections without recoding most of the video, only about the region of the cut if it doesn't happen at th exact place that gets a full image (the rest of the frames contain the differences to the key frame). That region can be recoded using the same settings and codecs as the original video, that's what I want. Such an editor run fast. Otherwise, it is hours. -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 42.2 x86_64 "Malachite" at Telcontar)

On 06/14/2017 03:12 AM, Graham Smith wrote:

I found Flowblade to be excellent and simple to use. There are some Youtube tutorials that helped me a lot in getting started.

Darn younger blokes, watch videos to learn? Nonsense! Anything worth learning provides a nice concise 'man page' or Readme.doc file to spend your day digesting... The good ones provide nicely formatted html or pdf documents squirreled way in /usr/share/doc/packages/appname. Videos -- blasphemy! Young Whipper-snappers... -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

On 2017-06-14 10:12, Graham Smith wrote:

On Tuesday, 13 June 2017 9:13:57 PM AEST Carlos E. R. wrote:

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From some reads it appears that it is able to cut sections without recoding most of the video, only about the region of the cut if it doesn't happen at th exact place that gets a full image (the rest of the frames contain the differences to the key frame).

That region can be recoded using the same settings and codecs as the original video, that's what I want.

Such an editor run fast. Otherwise, it is hours.

I found Flowblade to be excellent and simple to use. There are some Youtube tutorials that helped me a lot in getting started.

Good grief. I started it. I try to open a video file. The dialogue is capable of opening directories, it does not see the videos inside. It wants to open "Flowblade projects", not videos. If I create a new project, it wants me to type settings: Like DV/DVD PAL. This is nonsense: I want to use the exact same settings as the original video has, not recode to a new setting. This program is not good to me. -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 42.2 x86_64 "Malachite" at Telcontar)

Le 14/06/2017 à 10:05, David C. Rankin a écrit :

You simply cannot go wrong with cinerella. Y

if you can get it to work... it's fitted for film makers https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cinelerra kdenlive do the same with much more in/out options. but by the way the Carlos problem is not this. it's keeping *the choice* on the final file between two language tracks. Kdenlive is said to be able to do it, but I'm not sure this is really possible right now, even on last appimage one. Most are not even able to load the two audio tracks of the original file. One have to first demux image/audio1/audio2, load them in the editor, export them separately and build after that a mkv file clearly too much work only for removing unwanted advertisement contents long time ago, wow... may be 10 years ago? when I was still making video on windows, I got an utility with some software or hardware that just did hat: cut mpg file without recoding, and almost instantly. Dunno if it was only on master frames but it worked very well never found the same again. I would like one because may compact camera videos do have wrong start or end, having to edit and recompile them waste time jdd -- http://dodin.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

On 2017-06-14 10:23, jdd@dodin.org wrote:

Le 14/06/2017 à 10:05, David C. Rankin a écrit :

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You simply cannot go wrong with cinerella. Y

if you can get it to work... it's fitted for film makers https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cinelerra

kdenlive do the same with much more in/out options.

but by the way the Carlos problem is not this.

it's keeping *the choice* on the final file between two language tracks. Kdenlive is said to be able to do it, but I'm not sure this is really possible right now, even on last appimage one.

Yes. Many developers, being from the USA, simply do not understand the problem. I think kdenlive failed on this a year ago. And besides the two language audio tracks, there are the subtitles tracks, which can also be two. I have a video with about a dozen language tracks, both audio and subtitles.

Most are not even able to load the two audio tracks of the original file. One have to first demux image/audio1/audio2, load them in the editor, export them separately and build after that a mkv file

clearly too much work only for removing unwanted advertisement contents

Indeed. I'm having to store the videos whole, commercials et all, and just hit the fast-forward on playback.

long time ago, wow... may be 10 years ago? when I was still making video on windows, I got an utility with some software or hardware that just did hat: cut mpg file without recoding, and almost instantly. Dunno if it was only on master frames but it worked very well

never found the same again.

Do you remember the name of that thing? Maybe it works with Wine.

I would like one because may compact camera videos do have wrong start or end, having to edit and recompile them waste time

Yes. -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 42.2 x86_64 "Malachite" at Telcontar)

On 06/14/2017 03:39 AM, Charles Philip Chan wrote:

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On 06/13/2017 07:05 AM, Carlos E. R. wrote:

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The problem with avidemux is that it does only one sound track. I need two, because movies in Spain come dubbed to Spanish, but usually also contain the original sound track. Naturally I want to keep both. Agreed, Although I have no need for it. You should be able to enable up to 4 sound tracks in Avidemux

Audio-> "Select Track"

Where cinelerra shines is it provides a great interface for both video and audio that is almost identical to Audacity for sound (as far as the multiple track layout, etc..) Avidemux has no timeline or multitrack layout. The cli interface can do it, it just doesn't look like the gui can. From their Quickstart: Avidemux is a simple tool for simple video processing tasks. The keyword here is simple: it does not offer tools like a timeline, multitrack editing, you cannot freely move or splice audio and video clips from various sources. So it may be the desktop interface that's missing, the cli looks very capable. -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.

On 2017-06-14 11:09, David C. Rankin wrote:

On 06/14/2017 03:39 AM, Charles Philip Chan wrote:

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On 06/13/2017 07:05 AM, Carlos E. R. wrote:

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The problem with avidemux is that it does only one sound track. I need two, because movies in Spain come dubbed to Spanish, but usually also contain the original sound track. Naturally I want to keep both. Agreed, Although I have no need for it. You should be able to enable up to 4 sound tracks in Avidemux

Audio-> "Select Track"

It only processes one.

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Where cinelerra shines is it provides a great interface for both video and audio that is almost identical to Audacity for sound (as far as the multiple track layout, etc..) Avidemux has no timeline or multitrack layout. The cli interface can do it, it just doesn't look like the gui can.

From their Quickstart:

Avidemux is a simple tool for simple video processing tasks. The keyword here is simple: it does not offer tools like a timeline, multitrack editing, you cannot freely move or splice audio and video clips from various sources.

I do not need any of that. -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 42.2 x86_64 "Malachite" at Telcontar)

"Carlos E. R." <robin.listas@telefonica.net> writes:

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Although I have no need for it. You should be able to enable up to 4 sound tracks in Avidemux

Audio-> "Select Track"

No.

What do you mean. With Avidemux 2.62.0 from packman, it clearly allows me to enable up to 4 tracks. Example image of dialog: http://lh4.ggpht.com/-5uzi8PEr_74/UHOqpP3cVEI/AAAAAAAAVew/Wpc0UMnhhK0/avidem... Charles -- I've run DOOM more in the last few days than I have the last few months. I just love debugging ;-) (Linus Torvalds)

"Carlos E. R." <robin.listas@telefonica.net> writes:

Ok. Nothing new there.

I do, that, then "select second audio track". I see nothing like your photo. Instead, I get one dialogue:

audio source: choice of none, External AC3, External MP3, External WAW.

So, no, it is impossible.

It looks like you are using the old GTK interface which, IIRC, is not being developed any more. Move on to the QT5 one. Charles -- "On a normal ascii line, the only safe condition to detect is a 'BREAK' - everything else having been assigned functions by Gnu EMACS." (By Tarl Neustaedter)

"jdd@dodin.org" <jdd@dodin.org> writes:

are you sure? not so long ago, it was the gtk one that was the most complete

I just vaguely recall reading about it somewhere. Now I remembered why I moved on to the QT5 interface (I have used the GTK interface for years), there is no GTK interface package for Avidemux3 (ver 2.6.20) at Packman. The GTK interface package only exist for Avidumux (ver. 2.5.6). Charles -- "Whip me. Beat me. Make me maintain AIX." (By Stephan Zielinski)

On 2017-06-15 11:44, Charles Philip Chan wrote:

"Carlos E. R." <> writes:

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Ok. Nothing new there.

I do, that, then "select second audio track". I see nothing like your photo. Instead, I get one dialogue:

audio source: choice of none, External AC3, External MP3, External WAW.

So, no, it is impossible.

It looks like you are using the old GTK interface which, IIRC, is not being developed any more. Move on to the QT5 one.

Maybe you are using avidemux3? When using version 3, on select audio tracks, the fields are empty, it does not see any audio track in the already loaded video file. Apparently it wants me to load the track from an external file. So I select track 1 and 2 to be the same mpeg file. There is no way to select the audio tracks that exist in that stream. It should say that there are two tracks and allow me to select each one. This is useless. -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 42.2 x86_64 "Malachite" at Telcontar)

On 2017-06-15 12:31, Charles Philip Chan wrote:

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This is Avidemux 2.5.6.

Just noticed, this is old. Try the Avidemux3 (2.6.20-15) from Packman.

I did. It is impossible to select two audio tracks from the already loaded video file. It does not see the tracks. -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 42.2 x86_64 "Malachite" at Telcontar)

On 2017-06-15 12:40, jdd@dodin.org wrote:

Le 15/06/2017 à 12:31, Charles Philip Chan a écrit :

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This is Avidemux 2.5.6.

Just noticed, this is old. Try the Avidemux3 (2.6.20-15) from Packman.

Charles

only avidemux3 - do not forget to select gui...

and yes, have better audio selection.

No, it doesn't. I had to imput the video file in the selection box, instead of it automatically using the already loaded video file. Then, it presented me a selection with a hundred languages, instead of just the two that were in the file. When I did, it said that some tracks are used multiple times. It wants different external audio files as input! This is impossible to use.

but only select keyframe as start and stop

And impossible to remove commercials in the middle.

one may need to recompile with only keyframes to get the cut right

I don't know about that. -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 42.2 x86_64 "Malachite" at Telcontar)

On 2017-06-15 13:05, gumb wrote:

On 15/06/17 12:51, Carlos E. R. wrote:

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This is impossible to use.

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but only select keyframe as start and stop

And impossible to remove commercials in the middle.

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one may need to recompile with only keyframes to get the cut right

I don't know about that.

I think in this case you'd be best off contacting directly one of the developers and presenting your specific workflow. (Probably better to try first with a smaller dedicated tool like Avidemux than a bigger program with several contributors). It may well be that nobody's come up against this exact issue, and like you say, a lot of State-side developers don't always think so much about elements that might only be relevant to a non-English userbase.

There are some simple tools that would do the task, but they are broken or abandoned. For instance, ProjectX. kdenlive people were adding dual language support last time I looked, perhaps at the start of this thread.

I've had a few successes in the past when I ask directly lone developers of smaller applications for feature requests or bug fixes. It's only when something becomes abandonware and the developers have moved on or lost motivation that I get no response.

I would need another round of testing video software. One year I do it, I find nothing suitable, perhaps contact some project, then forget for another year. A GUI thing that would simply generate a script for ffmpeg could be adjusted, adding the proper switches to make ffmpeg work perfectly. I have not found such an editor. I have to try gopchop again. Oopps... version is March 2016, so the start of this thread. Pointless to test it again. Another abandonware? Yes. https://sourceforge.net/projects/gopchop/files/ Last dev version is 2009. I see three other recommended projects: dvbcut --> 2013 Linux Video Editor (lve) --> 2013 Mpg2Cut2 --> 2015 Not very promising, is it? -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 42.2 x86_64 "Malachite" at Telcontar)

On Sun, 18 Jun 2017 13:03:52 +0200 (CEST) Carlos E. R. wrote:

Well, I asked on the ffmpeg mail list. The idea seems to be to use a video viewer, such as xine, and write down the cutpoints in paper, then compose your command line to ffmpeg by hand.

But it seems an almost dead mail list, anyhow.

I keep thinking about the relative ease with which one could accomplish these kinds of edits 'back in the day' with the right (albeit expensive) analog equipment. :) I think a good start would be to write a script which reads a simple text input file, e.g. - - - - - 8< - - - - - simple text input file - - - - - >8 - - - - - ### Source ### # Source path and filename, e.g. /home/user/docs/videos/myvideo.mp4 ### Target ### # Target path and filename or directory for 'slices', e.g. # /external-usb/slicedvideo.mp4 or /external-usb/slices ### Slices ### # Create one new line with a value pair for each desired 'slice' using # hh:mm:ss format, e.g. # 01:59:00 02:00:00 'slices' one minute from the top of the 2nd hour: # cut-out-time cut-in-time ... # Inverse operation? 'yes' or 'no' ('yes' = keep the slices, # concatenate them into a single file and toss the rest) # Save 'slices' as clips? 'yes' or 'no' ('yes' disables concatenation) - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - The script reads these inputs and generates the appropriate 'one liner.' Of course, the options supported by this system can be expanded to accommodate different needs. Geez! I'll bet you could publish this to github and it could become famous like youtube-dl :) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

On 19/06/17 03:16, Carlos E. R. wrote:

On 2017-06-18 14:42, Carl Hartung wrote:

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On Sun, 18 Jun 2017 13:03:52 +0200 (CEST) Carlos E. R. wrote:

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Well, I asked on the ffmpeg mail list. The idea seems to be to use a video viewer, such as xine, and write down the cutpoints in paper, then compose your command line to ffmpeg by hand.

But it seems an almost dead mail list, anyhow. I keep thinking about the relative ease with which one could accomplish these kinds of edits 'back in the day' with the right (albeit expensive) analog equipment. :) I think a good start would be to write a script which reads a simple text input file, e.g.

- - - - - 8< - - - - - simple text input file - - - - - >8 - - - - - ### Source ### # Source path and filename, e.g. /home/user/docs/videos/myvideo.mp4

### Target ### # Target path and filename or directory for 'slices', e.g. # /external-usb/slicedvideo.mp4 or /external-usb/slices

### Slices ### # Create one new line with a value pair for each desired 'slice' using # hh:mm:ss format, e.g. # 01:59:00 02:00:00 'slices' one minute from the top of the 2nd hour: # cut-out-time cut-in-time ... # Inverse operation? 'yes' or 'no' ('yes' = keep the slices, # concatenate them into a single file and toss the rest)

# Save 'slices' as clips? 'yes' or 'no' ('yes' disables concatenation) - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

The script reads these inputs and generates the appropriate 'one liner.' I know how to do that. That is not the problem. The problem is generating the text input file with the timestamps to cut at. At the moment, it is paper and pen.

As I already told you, with all the time you have spent on posting here and reading there and everywhere, you could have looked at one or two videos on YouTube and had your videos edited by now using Cinelerra. Cinelerra does what you want with ease. I did several 3GB+ videos to rid them of commercials using Cinlelerra. But "you do what a man has to do" :-). BC -- Government has become a committee for managing the affairs of the rich. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Thursday, 2017-06-15 at 12:40 +0200, jdd@dodin.org wrote:

Le 15/06/2017 à 12:31, Charles Philip Chan a écrit :

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This is Avidemux 2.5.6.

Just noticed, this is old. Try the Avidemux3 (2.6.20-15) from Packman.

Charles

only avidemux3 - do not forget to select gui...

and yes, have better audio selection.

but only select keyframe as start and stop

one may need to recompile with only keyframes to get the cut right

I just found on the ffmepg mail list that avidemux has a cute hidden feature: you can remove sections in the middle, not just the start and end cuts. Just define a region from A to B that you want to remove. Then go to Menu/Edit/cut. The section goes instantly! You can repeat for as many sections as needed, apparently. Finally, do "Save" to apply it all. Works in versions 2 and 3. However. With my source video in version 2, I got a video with the audio taken from one of the removed sections, so totally out of sync. With version 3 I get no audio whatsoever. - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. (from 42.2 x86_64 "Malachite" at Telcontar) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iEYEARECAAYFAllI/c0ACgkQtTMYHG2NR9V0pwCbBJaRkvAPJx6Jz3HPLeiNgVI5 BhsAn1/tOOidi3MVzKW+4I5+4kYM4l1W =OKW6 -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

On 2017-06-23 15:16, gumb wrote:

On 20/06/17 12:49, Carlos E. R. wrote:

Haven't tried it myself, but just saw this pop up on OMG Ubuntu. I'm hedging my bets that it won't do what you need, because ...

http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2017/06/curlew-gtk-media-converter-gnome-desktop

Well, nobody seems to package it, so I can't try it yet. But thanks, another one to look at :-) Comments say "Curlew is a slick GTK3 frontend to FFMpeg" so it has a chance. But judging from the photos it is a converter, not an editor, so will not do. I mean, it can not define cut points, not looking at the photos. -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 42.2 x86_64 "Malachite" at Telcontar)

gumb composed on 2017-06-13 13:51 (UTC+0200): .

And I think everybody piled in with the usual suggestions of Kdenlive, etc. But you might be better off with a more simple, dedicated tool such as Avidemux, or Vidcutter: https://www.linux-apps.com/p/1180755 . As I told Carlos, I couldn't get Vidcutter to work at all, while so far I've been unable to get Avidemux to feign the same quality as the source in recode mode required to get frame accurate cuts, or write out in a reasonable time, less than 2-3 times the length of the original. Avidemux took several hours to reduce a 29 minute original to 20 minutes sans commercials.

I saw a suggestion somewhere that for best results I should decompress the original before trying to edit it, but so far I've been unable to find an appropriate example how to do that. Man pages to me are little better than useless for lack of sufficient examples. -- "The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

On Tue, 13 Jun 2017 12:07:53 -0400 Felix Miata wrote:

I saw a suggestion somewhere that for best results I should decompress the original before trying to edit it, but so far I've been unable to find an appropriate example how to do that. Man pages to me are little better than useless for lack of sufficient examples.

Hi Felix, The source tarball for kino (still available online but now a "dead project,") uses 'media.sh' under ~/kino-1.3.4/scripts/import/: - - - - - 8< - - - - - # A Kino script that tries to convert anything to raw DV - - - - - 8< - - - - - It uses ffmpeg and mencoder, so these programs must be installed for the script to be useful. I renamed the script 'vid2dv' and placed it in ~/bin. This is, for the most part, what I use for that specific job. You'll probably want to study the script and play around with it a little bit, but it works for me. :) I'll repeat my suggestion to isolate your source, system and target disks to avoid read/write contention. hth & regards, Carl -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

On 13/06/17 13:51, gumb wrote:

And I think everybody piled in with the usual suggestions of Kdenlive, etc. But you might be better off with a more simple, dedicated tool such as Avidemux, or Vidcutter: https://www.linux-apps.com/p/1180755

One for Carlos - I hope this reply goes into the right place in this ancient thread. I believe you were looking for video tools that would treat/export all the original subtitle tracks. I just saw a piece on OMG!Ubuntu! about an update to VidCutter, which *may* - if the notes hold true - provide this functionality, but you'll have to try it out yourself. http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2017/11/vidcutter-5-0-released-improved-ui-frame-... gumb -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

On 20/11/17 21:13, Carlos E. R. wrote:

On Monday, 2017-11-20 at 20:09 +0100, gumb wrote:

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One for Carlos - I hope this reply goes into the right place in this ancient thread.

I'll tell you later ;-)

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I believe you were looking for video tools that would treat/export all the original subtitle tracks. I just saw a piece on OMG!Ubuntu! about an update to VidCutter, which *may* - if the notes hold true - provide this functionality, but you'll have to try it out yourself.

http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2017/11/vidcutter-5-0-released-improved-ui-frame-...

Thanks :-)

I'll try it out when it comes to packman :-)

Version 5 is in the Packman repos now. Added yesterday.

It is not only subtitles that matter for me, but different language audio tracks. Most movies here (on TV) comes in the original language (typically English) and the local one, Spanish. The subtitles they most often come in Spanish, and sometimes also in English (typically the ones for deaf people), which I prefer for me.

I like to watch in English and if I have difficulties following the speech, I turn English subtitles on. If those are not available, I use the Spanish subtitles, but listening in English and reading in Spanish demands more effort for me. It is different from people that don't speak English, they are content with Spanish subtitles only.

But then, most people here prefer Spanish audio; thus my recordings should have all options - and few video editors in Linux allow this. I don't know in Windows, but I guess they have them, seeing that I get recordings done precisely the way I want them.

From the article: 'Stream mapping helps to ensure all of source media streams (e.g, video, audio, subtitles) are included in the finished export.' In theory, sounds good. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Thursday, 2017-11-23 at 13:37 -0000, Paul Groves wrote:

I just use ffmpeg to remove adverts from my recordings.

ffmpeg -i mov.mp4 -ss 01:00 -t 60 -c copy cut.mp4

-ss (which means start stream) will start at 1 min into the video (so removing the beginning). -t (time duration) will stream for 60 seconds -c copy will keep the encoding and not re-encode the video.

So this command will output 60 seconds of video starting at 1 minute in. I use the slider in VLC player to find the exact times. Then just run the command again until you have all the segments of video between the adverts.

Then join the videos together with concatenate command in ffmpeg. (Remember to specify -c copy to not re encode the video).

You could write a bash script and input the times. Then it can cut out the sepcified sections and join them at the end.

Yes, this involved procedure works, but I have to add another step: a quick pass over the video stamping the time on the display, because otherwise there are errors. I just hopped that on the XXI century there would be simple software to do it with click click the mouse, in Linux. Even if the GUI is just a frontend that writes a script for ffmpeg. That would be very wonderful, I could then use any needed extra switches to my heart happiness. - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. (from openSUSE 42.2 x86_64 "Malachite" at Telcontar) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iEYEARECAAYFAloXIKcACgkQtTMYHG2NR9WdVACcD6IL7xp11NDx881eDv2qV1B7 w/UAnRQ33XmTJNynYDHGVszw6SIeiMNZ =g1P2 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Thursday, 2017-11-23 at 11:46 -0800, Bruce Ferrell wrote:

If you're simply re-formatting/converting, ffmpeg for sure.

If you're doing much else, well...  Not so much.

I had this second case come up with a relative on Windows 10 who'd previously used a now removed-by-MS utility.  I pointed him to avidemux and this tutorial:

https://www.avidemux.org/admWiki/doku.php?id=tutorial:create_video_from_stil...

Avidemux is a no-no. It can not cope with audio in two languages. :-( Most video editors only handle a single audio track, possibly because they live in an English speaking country. - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. (from openSUSE 42.2 x86_64 "Malachite" at Telcontar) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iEYEARECAAYFAloXNPwACgkQtTMYHG2NR9XyewCgjr5DVQuai9QQX32IjLfQM8/f BAgAmwYUnVOuXxC5uA/75MCiWR2ySJTe =I8HX -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

Le 28/11/2017 à 17:41, ken a écrit :

While I've never used Blender for video editing, it's a rich and promising app and shouldn't be a major hassle to install and try out.

problem is video on blender is bender mike, probably very powerful but with a very hard learning curve if you don't know bender at first and tutorials are not beginning with video but with 3d I could never make it works for me. It runs, but with no usable result jdd -- http://dodin.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

Blender is a free app which runs on many platforms.  It was originally intended for creating animated films, but its success has found it leveraged for other purposes-- i.e., I've used it to create objects for 3D printing.  Development, based largely in Europe, is vigorous. Blender is designed from the beginning to accept and integrate add-ons, in a manner like Firefox and GIMP and other FOSSs.  According to https://www.blender.org/features/, Blender has a built-in video editor and handles a variety of file formats.  Documentation is available in several languages, but development happens so fast, the documentation can't be expected to cover all features and functions, so consult with other users and developers (e.g., https://www.blender.org/community/) before concluding that something can't be done.

Installation from a Blender download onto CentOS 7.x went flawlessly for me, even though CentOS isn't what you'd call cutting-edge for providing the latest libraries (or kernel).  There was just one dependency problem-- I had to pirate in a newer version of python--, this (I'm assuming) because either no shared libraries (excepting python) were needed or they were included (and specially or statically linked in) in the download.  Me, I'd willingly trade a larger package of code over dependency-frustrations... wish more packages would provide that option.

While I've never used Blender for video editing, it's a rich and promising app and shouldn't be a major hassle to install and try out. If the first attempt doesn't yield what you need, be sure to investigate the add-on libraries for additional functionality.

hth, ken I've been actively maintaining blender for years, version 2.76b available for Leaps, that's the last version to work with python 3.4 and

On 28/11/2017 18:41, ken wrote: the latest is always in Tumbleweed within a week of release. I have a Leap:42.3 Virtual machine with the latest version that I use for bug fixing. So there's no need to use Centos. You can use XFCE with an updated python 3 but it will wipe out kde unfortunately. http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/plater:/blender/Leap_42.3 Best regards Dave P -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

On Thu, 23 Nov 2017 20:32:01 +0100 (CET) "Carlos E. R." <robin.listas@telefonica.net> wrote:

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On 20/11/17 21:13, Carlos E. R. wrote:

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On Monday, 2017-11-20 at 20:09 +0100, gumb wrote:

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One for Carlos - I hope this reply goes into the right place in this ancient thread.

I'll tell you later ;-)

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I believe you were looking for video tools that would treat/export all the original subtitle tracks. I just saw a piece on OMG!Ubuntu! about an update to VidCutter, which *may* - if the notes hold true - provide this functionality, but you'll have to try it out yourself.

http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2017/11/vidcutter-5-0-released-improved-ui-frame-...

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Thanks :-)

I'll try it out when it comes to packman :-)

Version 5 is in the Packman repos now. Added yesterday.

Installing :-))

Crashes on loading:

cer@Telcontar:~/Fusion/Hacer/Trek> vidcutter & [1] 16260 cer@Telcontar:~/Fusion/Hacer/Trek> Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/bin/vidcutter", line 9, in <module> load_entry_point('vidcutter==5.0.0', 'gui_scripts', 'vidcutter')() File "/usr/lib/python3.4/site-packages/pkg_resources/__init__.py", line 558, in load_entry_point return get_distribution(dist).load_entry_point(group, name) File "/usr/lib/python3.4/site-packages/pkg_resources/__init__.py", line 2682, in load_entry_point return ep.load() File "/usr/lib/python3.4/site-packages/pkg_resources/__init__.py", line 2355, in load return self.resolve() File "/usr/lib/python3.4/site-packages/pkg_resources/__init__.py", line 2361, in resolve module = __import__(self.module_name, fromlist=['__name__'], level=0) File "/usr/lib64/python3.4/site-packages/vidcutter/__main__.py", line 40, in <module> from vidcutter.videocutter import VideoCutter File "/usr/lib64/python3.4/site-packages/vidcutter/videocutter.py", line 30, in <module> from typing import Union ImportError: No module named 'typing'

[1]+ Exit 1 vidcutter cer@Telcontar:~/Fusion/Hacer/Trek>

FWIW, I just installed vidcutter (on 42.2) and got the same error. 'typing' is apparently a standard Python module that provides type hints. But ... it's apparently only standard after version 3.6.5. So I tried: $ python3 '/usr/bin/vidcutter' but that gives the same error. Apparently I've only got 3.4.6 There is https://pypi.python.org/pypi/typing to download a backport but that's further than I'm going to try. HTH, Dave

:-((

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-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Thursday, 2017-11-23 at 21:38 -0000, Dave Howorth wrote:

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On Thu, 23 Nov 2017 20:32:01 +0100 (CET) "Carlos E. R." <> wrote:

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On Tuesday, 2017-11-21 at 07:49 +0100, gumb wrote:

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On 20/11/17 21:13, Carlos E. R. wrote:

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On Monday, 2017-11-20 at 20:09 +0100, gumb wrote:

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Version 5 is in the Packman repos now. Added yesterday.

Installing :-))

Crashes on loading:

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FWIW, I just installed vidcutter (on 42.2) and got the same error. 'typing' is apparently a standard Python module that provides type hints.

But ... it's apparently only standard after version 3.6.5. So I tried:

$ python3 '/usr/bin/vidcutter'

but that gives the same error. Apparently I've only got 3.4.6

There is https://pypi.python.org/pypi/typing to download a backport but that's further than I'm going to try.

Ah, if I enable the devel:languages:python repository then I can install python3-typing and that fixes the error. Unfortunately, it then says:

$ vidcutter QML debugging is enabled. Only use this in a safe environment. Error in sys.excepthook:

Original exception was: Segmentation fault (core dumped)

I have the suspicion that vidcutter is written expecting a newer version of python, so I shan't bother chasing it any further.

Thanks anyway, at least I know what is hapening. Much better than darkness ;-) I think I read that the move to python3 is a work in progress in TW, so I guess that it is too early to get it into Leap 15. - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. (from openSUSE 42.2 x86_64 "Malachite" at Telcontar) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iEYEARECAAYFAloXRpcACgkQtTMYHG2NR9XscACeOKvv75md/8HipcK7xtsBahfn i+QAn1VnvR67//1FnCFiDiJIifczEYmk =N/+k -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

On Thursday, November 23, 2017 11:52:00 PM EST Dave Howorth wrote:

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"Carlos E. R." <robin.listas@telefonica.net> wrote:

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On Thursday, 2017-11-23 at 21:38 -0000, Dave Howorth wrote:

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On Thu, 23 Nov 2017 20:32:01 +0100 (CET) "Carlos E. R." <> wrote:

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On Tuesday, 2017-11-21 at 07:49 +0100, gumb wrote:

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On 20/11/17 21:13, Carlos E. R. wrote: > On Monday, 2017-11-20 at 20:09 +0100, gumb wrote: Version 5 is in the Packman repos now. Added yesterday.

Installing :-))

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Crashes on loading: ...

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FWIW, I just installed vidcutter (on 42.2) and got the same error. 'typing' is apparently a standard Python module that provides type hints.

But ... it's apparently only standard after version 3.6.5. So I tried:

$ python3 '/usr/bin/vidcutter'

but that gives the same error. Apparently I've only got 3.4.6

There is https://pypi.python.org/pypi/typing to download a backport but that's further than I'm going to try.

Ah, if I enable the devel:languages:python repository then I can install python3-typing and that fixes the error. Unfortunately, it then says:

$ vidcutter QML debugging is enabled. Only use this in a safe environment. Error in sys.excepthook:

Original exception was: Segmentation fault (core dumped)

I have the suspicion that vidcutter is written expecting a newer version of python, so I shan't bother chasing it any further.

Thanks anyway, at least I know what is hapening. Much better than darkness ;-)

I think I read that the move to python3 is a work in progress in TW, so I guess that it is too early to get it into Leap 15.

Well both python 2 and python 3 are already in 42.2 so that's not a problem, and when I just ran vidcutter directly from the command line I saw afterwards that it automatically selected python 3 itself somehow.

I'm not a python programmer but I suppose there must be some mechanism for a python program to declare that it needs a particular version of the python executable to run. I'm surprised that python doesn't appear in update-alternatives to select the default from the command line, though I suppose it is technically unnecessary.

The work with TW may be adjusting system scripts to run properly under python 3, ideally as well as in python 2 but perhaps at the expense of python 2 compatibility.

Since somebody has packaged vidcutter for packman, maybe its worth bug reporting the core dump, however that is done.

BTW, vidcutter -h runs OK, so it may be worth trying to process some actual files. Maybe it's just the pathological case of no arguments that causes the crash?

The problem appears to be in vidcutter version 5. I was running vidcutter fine until a few days ago (and I do not have python3-typing or python-typing on my system) but when I did an update which included version 5 it broke and I got the same error as above. I found version 4 here: download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/enzokiel/openSUSE_42.2_Update/ installed it and now it runs again with no problem. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

Carlos E. R. wrote:

Thanks anyway, at least I know what is hapening. Much better than darkness ;-)

I think I read that the move to python3 is a work in progress in TW, so I guess that it is too early to get it into Leap 15.

Well, I think the WIP is getting rid of python2 - python3 is in there, and works. Also the latest vidcutter update does run properly on TW... -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

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Hello,

On Thu, 23 Nov 2017, Carlos E. R. wrote:

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cer@Telcontar:~/Fusion/Hacer/Trek> vidcutter & [1] 16260 cer@Telcontar:~/Fusion/Hacer/Trek> Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/bin/vidcutter", line 9, in <module> [..] ImportError: No module named 'typing'

[1]+ Exit 1 vidcutter cer@Telcontar:~/Fusion/Hacer/Trek>

:-((

https://software.opensuse.org/search?utf8=~&q=typing&search_devel=false&search_unsupported=false&baseproject=openSUSE%3ALeap%3A42.2

=> install python3-typing / python-typing

Yeah, but it is a bug anyway if a required package is not installed by deps. Anyway, I installed that rpm, but vidcutter still doesn't work. I managed to tell it to open a video file, it did nothing, the timeline displays nothing, it does not play the video, it is impossible to cut anything. If I give the name of the video file on the commandline, it crashes. - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. (from openSUSE 42.2 x86_64 "Malachite" at Telcontar) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iEYEARECAAYFAloXlxcACgkQtTMYHG2NR9VEgwCcDfqMNBY1PAi/KMNbIq8JNvS3 mC4AniXrk7p0HbqfMa5cNEvZgPpMteX0 =v8yr -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Wednesday, 2017-11-29 at 17:44 +1100, Basil Chupin wrote:

On 24/11/17 14:50, Carlos E. R. wrote:

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Anyway, I installed that rpm, but vidcutter still doesn't work. I managed to tell it to open a video file, it did nothing, the timeline displays nothing, it does not play the video, it is impossible to cut anything. If I give the name of the video file on the commandline, it crashes.

It works, Carlos, it really does (Leap 42.3 + VidCutter v5.0.0) :-).

It doesn't in 42.2, I tried again yesterday. It doesn't load the file. - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. (from openSUSE 42.2 x86_64 "Malachite" at Telcontar) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iEYEARECAAYFAloeq94ACgkQtTMYHG2NR9XAxACcCFTKeKybXlNmAeckg3BbPiJg H9QAn2WQOwfMGnhL/ODH+XZrRJYLoX/L =dqVs -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Wednesday, 2017-11-29 at 17:36 -0000, Dave Howorth wrote:

On Wed, 29 Nov 2017 13:45:09 +0100 (CET) "Carlos E. R." <> wrote:

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On Wednesday, 2017-11-29 at 17:44 +1100, Basil Chupin wrote:

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On 24/11/17 14:50, Carlos E. R. wrote:

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Anyway, I installed that rpm, but vidcutter still doesn't work. I managed to tell it to open a video file, it did nothing, the timeline displays nothing, it does not play the video, it is impossible to cut anything. If I give the name of the video file on the commandline, it crashes.

It works, Carlos, it really does (Leap 42.3 + VidCutter v5.0.0) :-).

It doesn't in 42.2, I tried again yesterday. It doesn't load the file.

It plays in 42.2 for me.

Well, I reported the issue in the packman mail list, and Luigi Baldoni is having a look. He has already solved the dependency issue, he told me, and asked to run with the --debug command line option. That produced a lot of output which I posted back there; I can not read pythonesse, so I don't know what it means ;-) I'll post it here again in case more eyes are of help ;-) cer@Telcontar:~/Fusion/Hacer/Trek> vidcutter --debug p.mpeg QML debugging is enabled. Only use this in a safe environment. 2017-11-29 23:27 - vidcutter.libs.mpvwidget - INFO - [cplayer] mpv 0.25.0 (C) 2000-2017 mpv/MPlayer/mplayer2 projects 2017-11-29 23:27 - vidcutter.libs.mpvwidget - INFO - [cplayer] built on May 9 2017 2017-11-29 23:27 - vidcutter.libs.mpvwidget - INFO - [cplayer] ffmpeg library versions: 2017-11-29 23:27 - vidcutter.libs.mpvwidget - INFO - [cplayer] libavutil 55.58.100 2017-11-29 23:27 - vidcutter.libs.mpvwidget - INFO - [cplayer] libavcodec 57.89.100 2017-11-29 23:27 - vidcutter.libs.mpvwidget - INFO - [cplayer] libavformat 57.71.100 2017-11-29 23:27 - vidcutter.libs.mpvwidget - INFO - [cplayer] libswscale 4.6.100 2017-11-29 23:27 - vidcutter.libs.mpvwidget - INFO - [cplayer] libavfilter 6.82.100 2017-11-29 23:27 - vidcutter.libs.mpvwidget - INFO - [cplayer] libswresample 2.7.100 2017-11-29 23:27 - vidcutter.libs.mpvwidget - INFO - [cplayer] ffmpeg version: 3.3.4 2017-11-29 23:27 - vidcutter.libs.mpvwidget - INFO - [cplayer] 2017-11-29 23:27 - vidcutter.libs.mpvwidget - INFO - [cplayer] Configuration: ./waf configure --prefix=/usr --bindir=/usr/bin --mandir=/usr/share/man --libdir=/usr/lib64 --docdir=/usr/share/doc/packages/mpv --confdir=/etc/mpv --enable-cdda --enable-libmpv-shared --enable-zsh-comp --enable-manpage-build --enable-libarchive --disable-sdl1 --disable-sdl2 --disable-build-date --disable-debug 2017-11-29 23:27 - vidcutter.libs.mpvwidget - INFO - [cplayer] List of enabled features: 52 alsa asm atomics audio-input avutil-imgcpy-uc caca cdda cplayer cuda-hwaccel dlopen drm dvbin egl-helpers egl-x11 encoding fchmod gcc-tls gl gl-wayland gl-x11 glibc-thread-name glob gnuc iconv is_ffmpeg jack jpeg lcms2 libarchive libass libass-osd libav libavcodec libavdevice libbluray libdl libm libmpv-shared librt libsmbclient libv4l2 linux-fstatfs lua nanosleep optimize oss-audio oss-audio-native plain-gl posix posix-or-mingw posix-spawn pthreads pulse shm subprocess termios tv tv-v4l2 vaapi vaapi-egl vaapi-glx vaapi-hwaccel vaapi-hwaccel-new vaapi-wayland vaapi-x-egl vaapi-x11 vdpau vdpau-gl-x11 vdpau-hwaccel vdpau-hwaccel-new videodev vt.h wayland x11 xv zlib zsh-comp 2017-11-29 23:27 - vidcutter.libs.mpvwidget - INFO - [global] config path: '' -> '-' 2017-11-29 23:27 - vidcutter.libs.mpvwidget - INFO - [cplayer] Setting option 'opengl-hwdec-interop' = "auto" (flags = 64) -> 0 2017-11-29 23:27 - vidcutter.libs.mpvwidget - INFO - [opengl-cb] GL_VERSION='3.3.0 NVIDIA 340.102' 2017-11-29 23:27 - vidcutter.libs.mpvwidget - INFO - [opengl-cb] Detected desktop OpenGL 3.3. 2017-11-29 23:27 - vidcutter.libs.mpvwidget - INFO - [opengl-cb] GL_VENDOR='NVIDIA Corporation' 2017-11-29 23:27 - vidcutter.libs.mpvwidget - INFO - [opengl-cb] GL_RENDERER='GeForce 9500 GT/PCIe/SSE2' 2017-11-29 23:27 - vidcutter.libs.mpvwidget - INFO - [opengl-cb] GL_SHADING_LANGUAGE_VERSION='3.30 NVIDIA via Cg compiler' 2017-11-29 23:27 - vidcutter.libs.mpvwidget - INFO - [opengl-cb] Loaded extension GL_ARB_get_program_binary. 2017-11-29 23:27 - vidcutter.libs.mpvwidget - INFO - [opengl-cb] Loaded extension GL_NV_vdpau_interop. 2017-11-29 23:27 - vidcutter.libs.mpvwidget - INFO - [opengl-cb] Loaded extension GL_ARB_debug_output. 2017-11-29 23:27 - vidcutter.libs.mpvwidget - INFO - [opengl-cb] 16 bit texture depth: 16. 2017-11-29 23:27 - vidcutter.libs.mpvwidget - INFO - [opengl-cb] Testing FBO format 0x805b 2017-11-29 23:27 - vidcutter.libs.mpvwidget - INFO - [opengl-cb] Create FBO: 16x16 (16x16) 2017-11-29 23:27 - vidcutter.libs.mpvwidget - INFO - [opengl-cb] Using FBO format 0x805b. 2017-11-29 23:27 - vidcutter.libs.mpvwidget - INFO - [opengl-cb] No advanced processing required. Enabling dumb mode. 2017-11-29 23:27 - vidcutter.libs.mpvwidget - INFO - [opengl-cb] Loading hwdec driver 'vaapi-egl' 2017-11-29 23:27 - vidcutter.libs.mpvwidget - INFO - [opengl-cb] Loading failed. 2017-11-29 23:27 - vidcutter.libs.mpvwidget - INFO - [opengl-cb] Loading hwdec driver 'vaapi-glx' 2017-11-29 23:27 - vidcutter.libs.mpvwidget - INFO - [opengl-cb/vaapi-glx] Not using this by default. 2017-11-29 23:27 - vidcutter.libs.mpvwidget - INFO - [opengl-cb] Loading failed. 2017-11-29 23:27 - vidcutter.libs.mpvwidget - INFO - [opengl-cb] Loading hwdec driver 'vdpau-glx' 2017-11-29 23:27 - vidcutter.libs.mpvwidget - INFO - [opengl-cb] Reported display depth: 8 2017-11-29 23:27 - vidcutter.libs.videoservice - INFO - /usr/bin/ffprobe -hide_banner -v error -show_streams -show_format -of json "/home_aux/cer/Fusion/Hacer/Trek/p.mpeg" 2017-11-29 23:27 - vidcutter.libs.videoservice - ERROR - Error decoding ffprobe JSON output Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/lib64/python3.4/site-packages/vidcutter/libs/videoservice.py", line 458, in probe self.media = Munch.fromDict(json.loads(json_data)) File "/usr/lib64/python3.4/site-packages/simplejson/__init__.py", line 516, in loads return _default_decoder.decode(s) File "/usr/lib64/python3.4/site-packages/simplejson/decoder.py", line 370, in decode obj, end = self.raw_decode(s) File "/usr/lib64/python3.4/site-packages/simplejson/decoder.py", line 400, in raw_decode return self.scan_once(s, idx=_w(s, idx).end()) simplejson.scanner.JSONDecodeError: Expecting value: line 1 column 2 (char 1) 2017-11-29 23:27 - root - CRITICAL - File "/usr/bin/vidcutter", line 9, in <module> load_entry_point('vidcutter==5.0.0', 'gui_scripts', 'vidcutter')() File "/usr/lib64/python3.4/site-packages/vidcutter/__main__.py", line 378, in main win = MainWindow() File "/usr/lib64/python3.4/site-packages/vidcutter/__main__.py", line 73, in __init__ self.file_opener(self.video) File "/usr/lib64/python3.4/site-packages/vidcutter/__main__.py", line 89, in file_opener self.cutter.loadMedia(filename) File "/usr/lib64/python3.4/site-packages/vidcutter/videocutter.py", line 798, in loadMedia self.videoService.setMedia(self.currentMedia) File "/usr/lib64/python3.4/site-packages/vidcutter/libs/videoservice.py", line 91, in setMedia self.probe(source) File "/usr/lib64/python3.4/site-packages/vidcutter/libs/videoservice.py", line 458, in probe self.media = Munch.fromDict(json.loads(json_data)) File "/usr/lib64/python3.4/site-packages/simplejson/__init__.py", line 516, in loads return _default_decoder.decode(s) File "/usr/lib64/python3.4/site-packages/simplejson/decoder.py", line 370, in decode obj, end = self.raw_decode(s) File "/usr/lib64/python3.4/site-packages/simplejson/decoder.py", line 400, in raw_decode return self.scan_once(s, idx=_w(s, idx).end()) 2017-11-29 23:27 - root - CRITICAL - <class 'simplejson.scanner.JSONDecodeError'>: Expecting value: line 1 column 2 (char 1) cer@Telcontar:~/Fusion/Hacer/Trek> - -- Cheers, Carlos E. 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-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Thursday, 2017-11-30 at 10:42 -0000, Dave Howorth wrote:

On Wed, 29 Nov 2017 23:40:23 +0100 (CET) "Carlos E. R." <> wrote:

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I'll post it here again in case more eyes are of help ;-)

cer@Telcontar:~/Fusion/Hacer/Trek> vidcutter --debug p.mpeg QML

I wonder if the results depend on the particular video file?

Could be. I know the files recorded from that TV recorder have problems on other programs, but ffmpeg handles them.

I tried playing several video files with different extensions (mp4, mpeg, mpg) and they all worked. Then I thought I should try a publically available one that we can all test with. So I downloaded big_buck_bunny.mp4 from http://www.quirksmode.org/html5/tests/video.html

That plays fine from the web in Firefox, and the downloaded copy plays fine in totem or vlc on my 42.2 machine. But when I tried it with vidcutter, it completely locked my machine! No response to any keys that I could find; no mouse pointer visible; hard reboot was my only answer.

Wow :-( That's bad.

So I think there's definitely some problem with vidcutter but I won't be the one investigating further, sorry.

Thanks anyway :-) Another program that fails on this file is gopchop. - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. (from openSUSE 42.2 x86_64 "Malachite" at Telcontar) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iEYEARECAAYFAlogEKYACgkQtTMYHG2NR9W5PwCeLr6LHDItuKPAtSje3uJnF2YL oW4An3iTPM3GcyXpy2zlfj2HNBvZzVbn =t5+U -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

Carlos E. R. wrote:

I tried with the first episode of a particular serial that was recorded somewhat differently (not something I can do at will). This file succeeds to load in vidcutter, I could remove lead and tail, with some problems.

The resulting video displayed no video on xine.

It played well in vlc.

But it had lost the subtitles and the second audio track (Japanesse in this case).

If vidcutter is unable to keep the two audio tracks it is no use to me.

This is really weird. So I just tried the big_buck_bunny.mp4, could without issues load it in vidcutter v5, cut out a subclip and save it, and properly play the edited one using mpv. Then I loaded an mkv, a 27GB Bluray rip with 3 audio tracks and one subtitle track. Again marked a small piece of it, saved it. The edit had all three audio and the subtitle tracks intact....

There are other difficulties: I can move with the cursor keys, but the "left cursor" key works only for a bit, then it gets stuck. I have to use the mouse to pass that point, and the mouse is very innacurate, too sensitive.

Going backwards is always an issue, because of the differential and reference frames. Especially on not too powerfull hardware. I think you have to go back to last I-frame and then apply diff frames up to the previous frame. I tried that (back move) with my laptop, and did not have stop issues, except it being quite slow (2-3fps). (lappy is quite beefy though, i7 with 16GB)

Hovering with the mouse over the buttons produce a grey text box with probably a hint, but the text is missing.

Hu - I don't get boxes, the info is displayed in the bottom line of the window... What does Menu->about vidcutter tell? Mine has libmpv: 0.27.0 FFmpeg: 3.4 Python: 3.6.3 PyQt5: 5.9 SIP: 4.19.3 (This is a Tumbleweed machine) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

On 01/12/17 02:34, Carlos E. R. wrote:

On Thursday, 2017-11-30 at 15:06 -0000, Peter Suetterlin wrote:

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Hu - I don't get boxes, the info is displayed in the bottom line of the window... What does Menu->about vidcutter tell?  Mine has

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libmpv: 0.27.0     FFmpeg: 3.4 Python: 3.6.3     PyQt5: 5.9     SIP: 4.19.3

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(This is a Tumbleweed machine)

Well, different, this is leap 42.2.

Carlos, isn't it time for you to upgrade to Leap 42.3? :-).  42.2 reaches its EOL in 56 days. BC -- "You should never argue about politics or religion. Or anything else if you're going to come out with crap like that."                                               Anonymous circa 2013

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Content-ID: <alpine.LSU.2.21.1712010228200.21164@Telcontar.valinor> On Friday, 2017-12-01 at 11:05 +1100, Basil Chupin wrote:

On 01/12/17 02:34, Carlos E. R. wrote:

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(This is a Tumbleweed machine)

Well, different, this is leap 42.2.

Carlos, isn't it time for you to upgrade to Leap 42.3? :-).  42.2 reaches its EOL in 56 days.

Yep, I noticed. The grass is still green this side ;-)

Ah... Carlos, I just happen to read another of your posts and it mentioned that you use xfce as your DE -- I (only ever) use KDE.

Can this possibly be a contributing factor to your problem trying to use VidCutter?

I don't think so, it shouldn't... It is rather, I think, that those video files I have are weird. They are recorded from fibre TV. - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. (from openSUSE 42.2 x86_64 "Malachite" at Telcontar) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iEYEARECAAYFAlogsJEACgkQtTMYHG2NR9UpEwCfY+zgkVt7T6gwpE+lmUZP2Z19 G94An0VBKNO2yMbhaCVW1MkQC+879Wcl =j0r7 -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Friday, 2017-12-01 at 14:25 -0000, Peter Suetterlin wrote:

Carlos E. R. wrote:

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It is rather, I think, that those video files I have are weird. They are recorded from fibre TV.

Have you checked what 'ffmpeg -i <videofile>' reports? Any warnings etc?

Command fails. cer@Telcontar:~/Fusion/Hacer/Test_small> ffmpeg -i 01x02\ Btooom\ \ T1\ Ep.\ 2.mpeg ffmpeginfo fmpeg version 3.3.4 Copyright (c) 2000-2017 the FFmpeg developers built with gcc 4.8 (SUSE Linux) ... [h264 @ 0x2033a00] mmco: unref short failure Last message repeated 1 times [mpegts @ 0x202ef80] PES packet size mismatch Last message repeated 3 times Input #0, mpegts, from '01x02 Btooom T1 Ep. 2.mpeg': Duration: 00:35:00.88, start: 1.118022, bitrate: 8600 kb/s Program 1 Stream #0:0[0x1e1]: Video: h264 (High) ([27][0][0][0] / 0x001B), yuv420p(tv, bt709, top first), 1920x1080 [SAR 1:1 DAR 16:9], 25 fps, 25 tbr, 90k tbn, 50 tbc Stream #0:1[0x1e2](esp): Audio: mp2 ([3][0][0][0] / 0x0003), 48000 Hz, stereo, s16p, 192 kb/s (clean effects) Stream #0:2[0x1e3](v.o): Audio: mp2 ([3][0][0][0] / 0x0003), 48000 Hz, stereo, s16p, 128 kb/s (clean effects) Stream #0:3[0x1e4](esp): Audio: eac3 ([6][0][0][0] / 0x0006), 48000 Hz, stereo, fltp, 128 kb/s (clean effects) Stream #0:4[0x1e5](v.o): Audio: eac3 ([6][0][0][0] / 0x0006), 48000 Hz, stereo, fltp, 128 kb/s (clean effects) Stream #0:5[0x246](esp,vos,srd,cat,eus): Subtitle: dvb_teletext ([6][0][0][0] / 0x0006) At least one output file must be specified If your question is whether those video files can be converted with ffmpeg, then the answer is yes. It took many trials to find out how. For instance (on another sample): ffmpeg -i "movie.mpeg" -copyts -ss 00:02:40.840 -to 01:36:57 \ -map 0:0 -map 0:1 -map 0:2 -c:v libx264 -preset medium \ -vf crop=1920:822:0:128 -c:a copy "movie.mkv" The trick is "-copyts". This I reported in this same thread, in June and earlier - the thread is long.

BTW, you probably mentioned it, but where is the package from? multimedia:apps?

I tried both multimedia:apps and packman, I think. Currently it is from packman. See my previous response to David Haller, he has helped me locate problems in the software called by vidcutter, ffprobe. - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. (from openSUSE 42.2 x86_64 "Malachite" at Telcontar) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iEYEARECAAYFAlohavwACgkQtTMYHG2NR9W6YACeNKGfZsP8+76FPgsIEZbb8wG2 EMAAn06DbdGlS05r7oLd8M074ja5As0B =6S7F -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Friday, 2017-12-01 at 07:20 +0200, Dave Plater wrote:

On 30/11/2017 16:34, Carlos E. R. wrote:

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The resulting video displayed no video on xine. Do you have libxine form Packman?

libxine2 and libxine2-esd, certainly. All libxine2 packages ar from packman. Name : libxine2-sdl Packager : packman@links2linux.de Name : libxine2-aa Packager : packman@links2linux.de Name : libxine2 Packager : packman@links2linux.de Name : libxine2-esd Packager : packman@links2linux.de Name : libxine2-pulse Packager : packman@links2linux.de Name : libxine2-gnome-vfs Packager : packman@links2linux.de Name : libxine2-codecs Packager : packman@links2linux.de cer@Telcontar:~> - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. (from openSUSE 42.2 x86_64 "Malachite" at Telcontar) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iEYEARECAAYFAlohW4IACgkQtTMYHG2NR9WZtQCfQtbfe1OiyPK8E9yEr4FJw5fI M/UAoI+AN6fFvYWXgccrxtDRdp05e9rH =ehE1 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Friday, 2017-12-01 at 07:23 +0200, Dave Plater wrote:

On 30/11/2017 16:34, Carlos E. R. wrote:

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The resulting video displayed no video on xine. Sorry it's early in the morning, libxine2-codecs from Packman and preferably all the libxine2 variants.

All those are from packman. Xine displays fine the original video, not the trimmed version. In fact, alt-I says the codec is unavailable. The next data row is all zeroes. Resulting video: cer@Telcontar:~/Fusion/Hacer/Test_small> mediainfo 01x01\ Btooom\ \ T1\ Ep.\ 1_EDIT.mpeg General Complete name : 01x01 Btooom T1 Ep. 1_EDIT.mpeg Format : MPEG-PS File size : 289 MiB Duration : 20 min 26 s Overall bit rate : 1 979 kb/s Video ID : 226 (0xE2) Format : AVC Format/Info : Advanced Video Codec Format profile : High@L3 Format settings : CABAC / 4 Ref Frames Format settings, CABAC : Yes Format settings, ReFrames : 4 frames Duration : 20 min 24 s Bit rate : 1 748 kb/s Width : 720 pixels Height : 576 pixels Display aspect ratio : 16:9 Frame rate : 25.000 FPS Standard : PAL Color space : YUV Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0 Bit depth : 8 bits Scan type : MBAFF Scan type, store method : Interleaved fields Scan order : Top Field First Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.169 Stream size : 255 MiB (88%) Color range : Limited Color primaries : BT.601 PAL Transfer characteristics : BT.470 System B, BT.470 System G Matrix coefficients : BT.470 System B, BT.470 System G Audio ID : 192 (0xC0) Format : MPEG Audio Format version : Version 1 Format profile : Layer 2 Duration : 20 min 26 s Bit rate mode : Constant Bit rate : 192 kb/s Channel(s) : 2 channels Sampling rate : 48.0 kHz Frame rate : 41.667 FPS (1152 SPF) Compression mode : Lossy Delay relative to video : -687 ms Stream size : 28.1 MiB (10%) cer@Telcontar:~/Fusion/Hacer/Test_small> Source video: cer@Telcontar:~/Fusion/Hacer/Test_small> mediainfo 01x01\ Btooom\ \ T1\ Ep.\ 1.mpeg General ID : 100 (0x64) Complete name : 01x01 Btooom T1 Ep. 1.mpeg Format : MPEG-TS File size : 604 MiB Duration : 35 min 1 s Overall bit rate mode : Constant Overall bit rate : 2 412 kb/s FileExtension_Invalid : ts m2t m2s m4t m4s tmf ts tp trp ty Video ID : 481 (0x1E1) Menu ID : 1 (0x1) Format : AVC Format/Info : Advanced Video Codec Format profile : High@L3 Format settings : CABAC / 4 Ref Frames Format settings, CABAC : Yes Format settings, ReFrames : 4 frames Codec ID : 27 Duration : 35 min 0 s Bit rate : 1 969 kb/s Width : 720 pixels Height : 576 pixels Display aspect ratio : 16:9 Frame rate : 25.000 FPS Standard : PAL Color space : YUV Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0 Bit depth : 8 bits Scan type : MBAFF Scan type, store method : Interleaved fields Scan order : Top Field First Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.190 Stream size : 493 MiB (82%) Color range : Limited Color primaries : BT.601 PAL Transfer characteristics : BT.470 System B, BT.470 System G Matrix coefficients : BT.470 System B, BT.470 System G Audio #1 ID : 482 (0x1E2) Menu ID : 1 (0x1) Format : MPEG Audio Format version : Version 1 Format profile : Layer 2 Codec ID : 3 Duration : 35 min 0 s Bit rate mode : Constant Bit rate : 192 kb/s Channel(s) : 2 channels Sampling rate : 48.0 kHz Frame rate : 41.667 FPS (1152 SPF) Compression mode : Lossy Delay relative to video : 1 ms Stream size : 48.1 MiB (8%) Language : esp Language, more info : Clean effects Audio #2 ID : 483 (0x1E3) Menu ID : 1 (0x1) Format : MPEG Audio Format version : Version 1 Format profile : Layer 2 Format settings : Joint stereo Codec ID : 3 Duration : 35 min 0 s Bit rate mode : Constant Bit rate : 128 kb/s Channel(s) : 2 channels Sampling rate : 48.0 kHz Frame rate : 41.667 FPS (1152 SPF) Compression mode : Lossy Delay relative to video : 1 ms Stream size : 32.1 MiB (5%) Language : Volapuk Language, more info : Clean effects Text ID : 582 (0x246)-801 Menu ID : 1 (0x1) Format : Teletext Subtitle cer@Telcontar:~/Fusion/Hacer/Test_small> I see no obvious important difference between the two video parts. You can see that the original has two audio tracs, the processed only one. And the subtitles are missing. - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. (from openSUSE 42.2 x86_64 "Malachite" at Telcontar) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iEYEARECAAYFAlohXbEACgkQtTMYHG2NR9WttwCeOkh5Ref2Eiewz8ml1Cg38Abm B50An002zgAWEms0MtqE+7PYcsX80KGi =yYRK -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

Hello, On Wed, 29 Nov 2017, Carlos E. R. wrote: [..]

cer@Telcontar:~/Fusion/Hacer/Trek> vidcutter --debug p.mpeg [..] 2017-11-29 23:27 - vidcutter.libs.mpvwidget

Looks like vidcutter uses an embedded mpv for display...

- INFO - [opengl-cb] GL_VERSION='3.3.0 NVIDIA 340.102' 2017-11-29 23:27 - vidcutter.libs.mpvwidget - INFO - [opengl-cb] Detected desktop OpenGL 3.3. 2017-11-29 23:27 - vidcutter.libs.mpvwidget - INFO - [opengl-cb] GL_VENDOR='NVIDIA Corporation' 2017-11-29 23:27 - vidcutter.libs.mpvwidget - INFO - [opengl-cb] GL_RENDERER='GeForce 9500 GT/PCIe/SSE2' [..] 2017-11-29 23:27 - vidcutter.libs.mpvwidget - INFO - [opengl-cb] Loading hwdec driver 'vaapi-glx' 2017-11-29 23:27 - vidcutter.libs.mpvwidget - INFO - [opengl-cb/vaapi-glx] Not using this by default. 2017-11-29 23:27 - vidcutter.libs.mpvwidget - INFO - [opengl-cb] Loading failed. 2017-11-29 23:27 - vidcutter.libs.mpvwidget - INFO - [opengl-cb] Loading hwdec driver 'vdpau-glx'

Try disabling the vdpau-glx driver too. The HW-decoders are rather limited in regard to supported features of the codecs and may barf on stuff that software-decoders (e.g. from ffmpeg) plays without problem. It's why I stopped using hw-decoding it at all (and using hw-encoding)[1].

2017-11-29 23:27 - vidcutter.libs.videoservice - INFO -

/usr/bin/ffprobe -hide_banner -v error -show_streams \ -show_format -of json "/home_aux/cer/Fusion/Hacer/Trek/p.mpeg"

Could you paste.opensuse.org the output of that ffprobe command?

2017-11-29 23:27 - vidcutter.libs.videoservice - ERROR - Error decoding ffprobe JSON output

As that what the python-code seems to barf on parsing... [..]

File "/usr/lib64/python3.4/site-packages/simplejson/decoder.py", line 370, in decode obj, end = self.raw_decode(s) File "/usr/lib64/python3.4/site-packages/simplejson/decoder.py", line 400, in raw_decode return self.scan_once(s, idx=_w(s, idx).end()) 2017-11-29 23:27 - root - CRITICAL - <class 'simplejson.scanner.JSONDecodeError'>: Expecting value: line 1 column 2 (char 1)

You could also try updating python3-simplejson (if that does not pull in too much other stuff) from d:l:py (and downgrade back if it does not help). Could be that vidcutter expects a rather new version of the simplejson module (just guessing though). HTH, -dnh [1] I routinely get half the filesize by reencoding the files from the public tv-stations, just by using a variable bitrate and the internal de-noiser of x264 at "nr=750"... e.g. one that had about 2256kbps (IIRC just video) is down to 862kpbs (including 1 audio AAC). mencoder -nosound -ovc x264 -x264encopts \ crf=23:trellis=1:qcomp=0.8:weight_b:8x8dct:subq=6:nr=750:threads=1 \ -o out.avi in.mp4 && mkvmerge -o out.mkv out.avi -D in.mp4 (and after checking: rm out.avi in.mp4 ;) No scaling in that case. -- I distinctly remember forgetting that. -Clara Barton -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

Hi, DaVinci Resolve is freeware, and is much more powerful then any other non-paid alternative. With free version you can't output 4k and 8k videos, but I don't think its necessary for a hobby. There are a lot of tutorials on youtube. Installation on Linux requires nVidia card and CUDA support. On 11/20/2017 09:09 PM, gumb wrote:

On 13/06/17 13:51, gumb wrote:

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And I think everybody piled in with the usual suggestions of Kdenlive, etc. But you might be better off with a more simple, dedicated tool such as Avidemux, or Vidcutter: https://www.linux-apps.com/p/1180755

One for Carlos - I hope this reply goes into the right place in this ancient thread.

I believe you were looking for video tools that would treat/export all the original subtitle tracks. I just saw a piece on OMG!Ubuntu! about an update to VidCutter, which *may* - if the notes hold true - provide this functionality, but you'll have to try it out yourself.

http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2017/11/vidcutter-5-0-released-improved-ui-frame-...

gumb

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Carlos E. R. wrote:

I only need a simple editor for streams recorded from TV. I want to remove the start lead, the tail end, and the commercials in the middle.

I was reading some thread about cutting on the mythtv list - I can't find it again, but in mythtv, you mark the lead and the tail, and you can have mythtv mark the commercials. I am pretty certain I saw someone mention that he used ffmpeg to do the cutting based on the marks from mythtv. Somebody also mentioned https://www.mythtv.org/wiki/MythDVBcut I don't do any video cutting myself - mythtv has the marks, that is sufficient. -- Per Jessen, Zürich (10.9°C) http://www.cloudsuisse.com/ - your owncloud, hosted in Switzerland. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

Carlos E. R. wrote:

On Thursday, 2017-11-23 at 15:48 +0100, Per Jessen wrote:

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Carlos E. R. wrote:

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I only need a simple editor for streams recorded from TV. I want to remove the start lead, the tail end, and the commercials in the middle.

I was reading some thread about cutting on the mythtv list - I can't find it again, but in mythtv, you mark the lead and the tail, and you can have mythtv mark the commercials. I am pretty certain I saw someone mention that he used ffmpeg to do the cutting based on the marks from mythtv.

Somebody also mentioned https://www.mythtv.org/wiki/MythDVBcut

I don't do any video cutting myself - mythtv has the marks, that is sufficient.

Interesting.

I read somewhere that MythTV used a contributive system to publish the commercial starts-ends, so that the thing could automatically skip them when playing, or perhaps when saving.

To be honest, I don't use the commercial detection system in MythTV. I think I had trouble with it in the beginning (5 years ago), and then never bothered again. When an ad section starts, I find it just as easy to press '4' and skip forward (cursor right). (95% of ad sections are 4 minutes long, some 2/3/5 even 6). You also get to judge the popularity - the longer the break, the more popular the show :-)

I wish that kodi would have a similar thing.

I thought kodi was just a media player? Or does it record as well? -- Per Jessen, Zürich (5.7°C) http://www.hostsuisse.com/ - virtual servers, made in Switzerland. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

On 24/11/17 11:51, Carlos E. R. wrote:

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Carlos E. R. wrote:

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I don't do any video cutting myself - mythtv has the marks, that is sufficient.

Interesting.

I read somewhere that MythTV used a contributive system to publish the commercial starts-ends, so that the thing could automatically skip them when playing, or perhaps when saving.

To be honest, I don't use the commercial detection system in MythTV.  I think I had trouble with it in the beginning (5 years ago), and then never bothered again.  When an ad section starts, I find it just as easy to press '4' and skip forward (cursor right).  (95% of ad sections are 4 minutes long, some 2/3/5 even 6).  You also get to judge the popularity - the longer the break, the more popular the show :-)

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I wish that kodi would have a similar thing.

I thought kodi was just a media player?  Or does it record as well?

Yes, it displays TV and radio from a variety of sources, using a pletora of plugins, and can directly record from those.

Now that I think, it probably has a plugin to display from youtube.

"Closed" source boxes using kodi may have plugins to "hijack" from sources perhaps illegally.

- -- Cheers,        Carlos E. R.        (from openSUSE 42.2 x86_64 "Malachite" at Telcontar)

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I load the video. If play automatically is selected in the open file dialogue, the application crashes immediately. I see a clip monitor window at the top right, so I try to use that. don't try this, use directly the timeline, there is a key to cut. soory I write with W10 here, from Madrid :-( jdd -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

Op zondag 6 maart 2016 22:02:58 schreef Carlos E. R.:

On 2016-03-06 20:24, jdd wrote:

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I load the video. If play automatically is selected in the open file dialogue, the application crashes immediately. I see a clip monitor window at the top right, so I try to use that.

don't try this, use directly the timeline, there is a key to cut. soory I write with W10 here, from Madrid :-(

In the timeline there is no guide whatsoever of what I'm marking. At least, when the video is 12GB, with a much smaller one when I click on the timeline I see the picture in the Project monitor.

The timeline only displays one icon and a pink region.

However, the point is moot: kdenlive only supports one audio track, and most of my videos have two tracks: Spanish and English.

So kdenlive is out completely.

You may try the kdenlive mailing list should be on http://forum.kde.org, but I can't reach it. -- fr.gr. member openSUSE Freek de Kruijf -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

On 2016-03-06 22:20, Carlos E. R. wrote:

On 2016-03-06 19:18, Florian Gleixner wrote:

Now to convert. It says it will take three hours. No, four. It is a lot. Now it is 22:16.

If I try "mediainfo" on the partially written file, it has only video track, no audio :-? Maybe it is written later.

I'll report more when it finishes.

I notice that it is working all CPU cores: 382% (at nice level), the rest up to 400% is used by other tasks, like firefox, that is good. Machine is still very responsive. [...] It suddenly stopped converting after 18%. There is a window saying that the video has been saved but seems to be incomplete. Clicking on OK gets another saying that the file was not saved correctly. There are some messages in the terminal: [encode] [x264] Cannot get next image [encode] Flushing delayed frames [getNextFrameAs] Audio thread stopped, no more data [encode] [x264] Cannot get next image [encode] Flushing delayed frames Percent:18 [getNextFrameAs] Audio thread stopped, no more data [encode] [x264] Cannot get next image [encode] Flushing delayed frames [getNextFrameAs] Audio thread stopped, no more data [encode] [x264] Cannot get next image [encode] Flushing delayed frames The resulting video has 563MB, and no audio at all. And it has only 20 minutes, so it is incomplete. I try again, with a filter to crop and resize a bit. Now it says it will take half an hour. Now it is 23:06 I notice now that the audio is set to copy zero tracks, so I stop it. Apparently I have to manually select audio tracks (from which file) and select language. No, it says "Error: some tracks are used multiple times". It forces me to remove one of the audio tracks, only allows one. Ok, it seems I have to select the file again, and I have two tracks now. I'm unsure if it is using both languages. Another thirty minutes, starting at 23:21 [...] It aborted at 72% :-/ The result has two audio tracks, both muted, no sound. It plays badly on xine, jerkily. In VLC it pays smoothly, but no sound. Well, this avidemux3 was promising, but fails badly: * Can not remove commercials in the middle. It only can trim the start and the end. * Produces no sound. * Can not parse the input stream, it aborts somewhere in the middle. If I tell avidemux3 to play the original video, it has no sound, just chirps. -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 13.1 x86_64 "Bottle" at Telcontar)

Le 07/03/2016 10:58, Florian Gleixner a écrit :

I can only guess that the recording has some problems like missing frames. For the audio: avidemux3 can have problems encoding audio when the audio tracks change during recording.

For broken files you may have a chance to fix it by cutting it with avidemux and select copy for both Video and Audio output. Then try to postprocess it with HandBrake. Or try to preprocess it with HandBrake and then cut it with avidemux3.

MTS (aka numerical TV files) often have faulty frames, and only a MTS reader can cope with this. This gives with most readers out of synv audio... I know of no solution. Was one in SD time, never ported to HD jdd -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org