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[opensuse-usability] yast network card module
by Martin Schmidkunz 23 Apr '07

23 Apr '07

Hi everybody, in order to provide the current nework card module with a clear and easy structure we have done some redesign for openSUSE 10.3. Please see http://en.opensuse.org/YaST/Network_Card_Module for details. I am looking forward to your comments! Cu, Martin -- Martin Schmidkunz User Experience Specialist martin.schmidkunz(a)novell.com +49 (0) 911 740 53-346 ------------------------------------- SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) ------------------------------------- Novell, Inc. SUSE® Linux Enterprise 10 Your Linux is ready http://www.novell.com/linux -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-usability+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-usability+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-usability] Look and Feel of the openSUSE Installer
by Magnus Boman 18 Apr '07

18 Apr '07

Hello openSUSE lovers! openSUSE has been rapidly evolving, but the installer has stayed the same for many versions! The installer is the first thing potential openSUSE users see, and an immediate 'pleasant surprise effect is very important, particularly considering the competition from other installers available. Previous SUSE users also erroneously presume sometimes that the distro is the same since the installer hasn't changed, unfortunately. I've created a page on the wiki to collect ideas on how to improve the openSUSE installer. If you have any ideas (or concerns), please head over to http://en.opensuse.org/Pimp_My_Installer and update it as you see fit. Thanks, Magnus -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-usability+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-usability+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-usability] Yast UI Future ideas
by Ricardo Cruz 16 Apr '07

16 Apr '07

Hi folks, Opened a wiki page for people to drop some thoughts and ideas with regard to Yast interface. Stop by, and drop yours. :) http://en.opensuse.org/Yast_UI_Future You may notice reply-to is set to the yast-devel mailing list. Please, reply there. Cheers, Ricardo -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-usability+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-usability+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-usability] Network settings survey
by Martin Schmidkunz 05 Apr '07

05 Apr '07

Hi, I would like to invite you to take part in our new survey about nentwork settings! We are interested in knowing how you deal with network settings. The survey will be online until April, 20th You find the survey on: http://en.opensuse.org/Usability Thanks and regards, Martin -- Martin Schmidkunz User Experience Specialist martin.schmidkunz(a)novell.com +49 (0) 911 740 53-346 ------------------------------------- SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) ------------------------------------- Novell, Inc. SUSE® Linux Enterprise 10 Your Linux is ready http://www.novell.com/linux -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-usability+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-usability+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-usability] More opinions on usability in Linux
by Rajko M. 31 Mar '07

31 Mar '07

The article: http://theosib.livejournal.com/1742.html is touching few aspects of popular operating systems. Part that comparing file system hierarchy usability in Linux, MacOS and Windows is interesting. It almost always leads to heated discussions while article and some comments have valid points about need for a new solutions. -- Regards, Rajko. http://en.opensuse.org/Portal -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-usability+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-usability+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-usability] A Usability Based Challenge!
by Andrew Laignel 27 Mar '07

27 Mar '07

Hi. I've lurked here for quite a bit (I was advised to subscribe to this list on another forum in response to the challenge posted below) and haven't really seen much activity, so I just thought I'd toss in my 2c. To be honest I have not used Suse that much - I've seen it in action and used it for a short time, but nothing in depth. I've mainly used Ubuntu (I seriously don't know what all the fuss is about), Mepis, PCLinuxOS (Quite like it) and a few other random distro's. My concern is based around the general feeling and attitudes of the Linux community at large, rather than centered around any one distro. Anyway... I first decided to try out Linux a couple of years ago (I've known of it for much longer) as I run an Internet cafe and would have quite liked to avoid the Microsoft tax. I tried a few distro's for a short time - FC4, Mepis and Ubuntu (warty). At the end of the trial I weighed the various benefits of all platforms and decided to stick with Windows, as none of the distros offered enough advantages to make it worth the extra time and had many significant limitations (mainly with regard to usability). I am not 'Pro Microsoft', nor am I 'Pro Linux', I am 'Pro whatever gets the job done best'. I decided to put a post on the Ubuntu forums detailing the reasons why I was not going to use it and the limitations I found. As a programmer myself that is the sort of information I want to know. The reasons people are using my software are nice, the reasons people aren't are nicer. Unfortunately I was promptly flamed to a crisp by a vocal percentage of the forum regulars who refuse to hear a bad word about Linux. Even saying something as simple as 'Why not make .deb's double clickable?' would get a hail of negative responses. Excuses were made for everything - nobody would recognize one single point as valid. I tried a few other forums, all with the same results. Bringing up issues with usability always ended the same way. I in fact found it impossible to have any constructive discussion of usability issues without it turning into a flamewar. My eventual conclusion is that constructive criticism of Linux simply doesn't happen in an open forum, that there is no place set aside for it to happen (no Linux distro I have yet seen has a 'tell us what you think' forum) and pretty much no effort is made to open a (honest) dialogue with end users about what they like/dislike. The only place close to this is bugzilla, which doesn't handle usability issues, only programming bugs. From my experiance using Linux (and OSS software in general) the software is generally powerful, stable, yet usually with a sub-par GUI and pretty much no attention paid to usability. I do not approve of people signing up on Linux forums to bash the OS but I feel the community in general is so defensive any comments no matter how benign or well said are seen as attacks - possible because they see it as an attack on the FOSS ideology - and any comment made is seen in a 'Linux vs Windows' capacity, even when only talking about Linux with Windows being irrelevant to the discussion. It always gets twisted to X vs Y. As a result of this no public discussions of Linux' pitfalls are allowed to exist resulting in the developers being essentially insulated from the end users. Criticisms and comments from the people using the software are not sought after and more often than not actively suppressed, and the only form of feedback that works is bugzilla - which will never address usability issues. So, anyway, after that longer-than-planned rant, my challenge is this: Find a place on the Internet that constructive criticism of Linux actually takes place where you can discuss caveats in the OS and talk about usability and what can be done to improve it in a calm and civilized manner. It's a harder task than you'd think. And if no such discussions take place how are any developers ever meant to know what the main concerns/problems that the general userbase is having? I just think that the open sharing of ideas is just as important as the open sharing of code, yet it practically never happens. I'd also like to contribute my expertise (graphic design & usability) as would many other people yet even discussing the topic in public is pretty much prohibited. Hey, I just reckon if you let (and encourage) people talk about what they would like, many good ideas may come of it. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-usability+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-usability+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-usability] Maybe short the name this mailing list ?
by Alexey Eremenko 24 Mar '07

24 Mar '07

Wouldn't that be better to just cut the name of this mailing to: "opensusebility" ? :) -- -Alexey Eremenko "Technologov" -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-usability+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-usability+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-usability] Online Questionnaire on Gnome/KDE for my master thesis ... Online-Umfrage zu Gnome/KDE für meine Diplomarbeit
by Martin Neuwirth 24 Mar '07

24 Mar '07

Hello/Guten Tag! Read below the line with the many (---) signs for the german version of this mail. I am a student at the technical university of Vienna. I hope that you can help me out by taking part in my online questionnaire, which deals with usability aspects of the two biggest user interfaces Gnome and KDE for open source desktops. I am doing this research as a part of my theses in computer science. The questionnaire can be found at: http://www.schilf.at/gnomeKde/index.php?lang=en Even if you are not familiar with those terms right now your contribution is still of great value to me. Thank you for participating. (------------------------------------------------------------------) Ich bin Student an der Technischen Universität in Wien. Ich hoffe, dass du kurz Zeit hast und mir beim Herausfinden von Usabilityaspekten der beiden großen Benutzerschnittstellen Gnome und KDE behilflich sein kannst. Ich führe diese Umfrage im Rahmen meiner Diplomarbeit für Informatik durch und würde dich bitten unter folgendem Link: http://www.schilf.at/gnomeKde daran teilzunehmen. Auch wenn dir diese beiden Begriffe momentan unbekannt scheinen ist dein Beitrag wertvoll. Danke für deine Teilnahme. -- Martin Neuwirth -- Martin -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-usability+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-usability+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-usability] Re. The SuSE desktop advantage
by Keith Wilkinson 28 Jan '07

28 Jan '07

> A Live DVD whose System and Application menus could be easily > switched between multiple languages ( like English, German, Japanese, > Korean, Spanish, Fillipino ) without affecting the locale setting > would really blow peoples' minds ;-) Spoke too soon. The F4 key allows the language to be selected from 11 languages at boot time. Superb! (But not 100% obvious unless you notice the F4 key label). Would be even nicer to be able to switch on the fly. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-usability+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-usability+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-usability] Re. The SuSE desktop advantage
by Keith Wilkinson 28 Jan '07

28 Jan '07

A Live DVD whose System and Application menus could be easily switched between multiple languages ( like English, German, Japanese, Korean, Spanish, Fillipino ) without affecting the locale setting would really blow peoples' minds ;-) This is something that Windows will probably never be able to do. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-usability+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-usability+help(a)opensuse.org

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