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results of yast style guide meeting on 22th january 2008
by Martin Schmidkunz 24 Jan '08

24 Jan '08

Hi everybody, at the end of the e-mail you will find a summary of results from the YaST style guide meeting on 22th January. The only issue which was not discussed directly is the filter issue (last paragraph) within the overview dialog. AFAIK filters in overview dialogs are only used in the user/groups management dialog. Currently the filter and the filter selection are separated, but Jiri found a very nice way to get rid of this separation (see Bug 279959). If you have any comments on the results of our style guide meeting, please let me know. For the next meeting on Tuesday, 29th January, 16 CET, we can take a look at the other full-screen dialogs: # Progress Dialogs (initializing, reading and writing...) # Dialog with Tabs # Tree Widget Dialog # Summary Dialog # Installation Proposal I think we can handle them quite shortly as it is mostly about: does it make sense how it is written down in: http://en.opensuse.org/YaST/Style_Guide/Dialogs Thanks for the discussion and your comments last Tuesday! Cu, Martin Properties of a common dialog * Help text is displayed via a help push button aligned on the left side. A click on the button opens the help text in a new window. On the right side the module dialog is displayed. * All navigation buttons are located at the bottom line of the common dialog. * By clicking the "x" in the window decoration the dialog closes. If the user changed something a warning pop up is display and has to be confirmed. Technically this means: UI WM_CLOSE button must be handled as "cancel/abort/close" * YaST modules should use the wizard.ycp (framework) * Unnecessary buttons (e.g. next in a one screen dialog) should be disabled Properties of an overview dialog * The heading consist of module name + "Configuration" if the dialog is used for hardware and services configuration * The items should be displayed in a table * If detailed information is necessary it is provided by a rich text field at the bottom of the table. The conten of the rich text field changes when the user changes the item in the table. * To configure the items within the table a set of three push buttons with the labels "Add", "Edit", "Delete" is used. These three push buttons are aligned at the left bottom. * To provide "expert options" or other settings like "set default" align the corresponding push button on the right. Try to avoid menu buttons or combo boxes as they hide their content from the user. * An additional line of buttons between the buttons at the bottom of the table and the navigation buttons should be avoided * If filtering is needed use the space above the table. The current filter is displayed as a text label on the left side, the "Set Filter" combo box is aligned on the right. -- Martin Schmidkunz User Experience Specialist martin.schmidkunz(a)novell.com +49 (0) 911 740 53-346 ----------------------------------------------------------------- SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) ----------------------------------------------------------------- Novell, Inc. SUSE® Linux Enterprise 10 Your Linux is ready http://www.novell.com/linux -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-ux+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-ux+help(a)opensuse.org

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yast style guide meeting tuesday 22th january 16:00 CET
by Martin Schmidkunz 15 Jan '08

15 Jan '08

Hi, in discussions with some developers and during our own work it turned out that it would be nice to have a style guide for YaST modules. In order to get one, Eva and I will prepare single pieces of it, which will be discussed with all interested persons on IRC. That is probably the best method to give as many people as possible the chance to participate in this project. The meeting will take place in the yast channel on irc.freenode.org and it is scheduled for Tuesday, 22th January 2008, 16:00 CET until 17:00 CET. World times for this meeting: http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?day=22&month=1&year=20… We are looking forward to you, Martin und Eva -- Martin Schmidkunz User Experience Specialist martin.schmidkunz(a)novell.com +49 (0) 911 740 53-346 ----------------------------------------------------------------- SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) ----------------------------------------------------------------- Novell, Inc. SUSE® Linux Enterprise 10 Your Linux is ready http://www.novell.com/linux -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-ux+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-ux+help(a)opensuse.org

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christmas
by Martin Schmidkunz 22 Dec '07

22 Dec '07

Hi, I wish all merry and recreative Christmas holidays and a successful, healthy and lucky new year! Thanks for all the comments and discussions! Although I wasn't always able to join all of them it is very nice to see that there are some people around who like to give feedback about usability and design issues! Best regards, Martin -- Martin Schmidkunz User Experience Specialist martin.schmidkunz(a)novell.com +49 (0) 911 740 53-346 ----------------------------------------------------------------- SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) ----------------------------------------------------------------- Novell, Inc. SUSE® Linux Enterprise 10 Your Linux is ready http://www.novell.com/linux -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-ux+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-ux+help(a)opensuse.org

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printer module
by Martin Schmidkunz 11 Dec '07

11 Dec '07

Hi everybody, Johannes came up with some additional ideas how to redesign the add dialog and the printer module. I put the screenshots on: http://en.opensuse.org/YaST/Printer Please note, that they contain some experimental stuff like semantic buttons. Although I find this idea very interesting and cool (as it brings in the thoughts of hyperlinks) it will be most likely that they will not survive the whole design process :-) Cu, Martin -- Martin Schmidkunz User Experience Specialist martin.schmidkunz(a)novell.com +49 (0) 911 740 53-346 ----------------------------------------------------------------- SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) ----------------------------------------------------------------- Novell, Inc. SUSE® Linux Enterprise 10 Your Linux is ready http://www.novell.com/linux -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-ux+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-ux+help(a)opensuse.org

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Redesign of YaST Control Center
by Thomas Goettlicher 29 Nov '07

29 Nov '07

Hi everyone, we want to redesign the YaST Control Center. Therefore we are looking for a radical new design. This is your chance to share your ideas regarding YaST Control Center. Please feel free to contribute with mockups and (unconventional) ideas here: http://en.opensuse.org/YaST/Development/New_Control_Center Thanks, Thomas --- SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-ux+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-ux+help(a)opensuse.org

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Printer status: stopped. This is murder.
by Silviu Marin-Caea 27 Nov '07

27 Nov '07

This is a copy & paste of a message I wrote to the CUPS bugs forum. It concerns usability. http://www.cups.org:80/newsgroups.php?gcups.bugs+v:6146 ==== This is a case where a small bad design decision destroys all the good that CUPS does. The situation couldn't be more ordinary: a USB printer (HP F4180). If this printer is turned off when the computer is on, it will enter the stopped/paused state and remain so forever. To the average user this means exactly: LINUX PRINTING DOES NOT WORK. It's as simple and clear as that. To get it to print again, the user should give the cupsenable command or use the web interface. Do you expect mom and pop to know about "cupsenable" and "http://localhost:631"? Really. Guys, you brought linux printing forward from the middle ages. Don't leave it in the 1980s, please, we need it in the present. Whatever might be the reason cups doesn't retry printing, is it worth sacrificing usability so brutally? openSUSE 10.3, cups-1.2.12 Thank you -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-ux+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-ux+help(a)opensuse.org

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new UI in yast2-printer
by Michal Zugec 23 Nov '07

23 Nov '07

Hi people, I'd like to announce improved (I hope ;-)) UI in yast2-printer module. You probably know old interface. Many options was accessible via several clicks and for new users some of them wasn't easy to understand. I wrote some screenshots here: http://en.opensuse.org/YaST/Printer and now is mostly implemented in yast2-printer version >= 2.16.4 So this mail is a "call for testing", but also your comments or other kind of feedback is important for me. When you check rpm from factory does it work for you with all functionality? Do you like this UI or would you like to change something? Bye, Michal -- Best Regards, Michal Zugec Software developer --------------------------------------------------------------------- SuSE CR, s.r.o. e-mail: mzugec(a)suse.cz Lihovarska 1060/12 tel: +420 284 028 960 190 00 Praha 9 fax: +420 296 542 374 Czech Republic http://www.suse.cz/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-ux+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-ux+help(a)opensuse.org

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Re: [opensuse-ux] new UI in yast2-printer
by kevindupuy＠bellsouth.net 22 Nov '07

22 Nov '07

Exactly. I think you hit the nail on the head there. -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: Johannes Meixner <jsmeix(a)suse.de> > > > Hello, > > On Nov 15 10:58 Martin Schmidkunz wrote (shortened): > > ... if you are doing > > something that doesn't meet the user's expectations you have to explain > > that to him ... > > Exactly! > > This is what I like to get all the time. > I think a YaST setup module should be better than just show > choices to the user but leave him (mostly) alone what to choose. > > I think a YaST setup module should establish some kind of > communication or dialog with the user to find out what he wants > and then guide him to a reasonably good possible setup > (in particular when what he wants is not exactly possible) > or be brave and tell him frankly when what he wants is > impossible (e.g. configure an unsupported printer). > > > > And we should really, really focus on bringing the printing model to the > > user. That means of course that it is not enough to hide the explanation > > in the help text :-) > > YES! > > I think this is our key problem: > How to display the basics of the real printing model to the user > so that he gets a basic understanding what the heck this weird > and confusing printing config stuff is all about. > > > I think Rajko's understanding is perfectly sufficient: > A queue is a software black box that does whatever is necessary > to give appropriate printout and sends it to the printer. > > The exact right point in his understanding is "queue is software". > > I assume when he does "lpstat/lpq" or whatever graphical stuff > to query the printing system, then his understanding helps him > to be aware that he gets only the state of a piece of software > and not necessarily the state of a piece of hardware (the printer). > > > Kind Regards > Johannes Meixner > -- > SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, Maxfeldstrasse 5, 90409 Nuernberg, Germany > AG Nuernberg, HRB 16746, GF: Markus Rex > -- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-ux+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org > For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-ux+help(a)opensuse.org > -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-ux+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-ux+help(a)opensuse.org

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Video of Mac OS X upgrade (Tiger -> Leopard)
by Joerg Kress 14 Nov '07

14 Nov '07

Hi, a video with an upgrade of Mac OS is now online at: http://public.littlecornerofthe.net/research/leo-upgrade.mpg.ogg It's edited for length, without those lengthy "doing something and updating the progress bar"-moments. The locale is German, sorry ;-) Other specs: We recorded only every 2nd frame as such the "realtime" parts are actually twice as fast in the video. I will do a writeup of things that are interesting to note. Any recommendations where to put those notes and a link to the video in the wiki? btw: it's not that exciting, seems like Apple thought the upgrade process is not worth the bling. Cheers, Josh -- Joerg Kress <jkress(a)suse.de> SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-ux+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-ux+help(a)opensuse.org

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[Fwd: [yast-devel] Re: [opensuse-factory] YaST2 SSHD Module - Call for help/volunteers]
by Lukas Ocilka 24 Oct '07

24 Oct '07

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hi, This is a "Call for a YaST UI designer" mail :) Please, is there anybody willing to help help Dominique and myself with redesigning the YaST SSHD module? For more information, see the forwarder message, this mailing-list thread http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-factory/2007-10/msg00278.html and bug https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=333655 Thanks a lot! Bye Lukas -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4-svn0 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFHF7l5VSqMdRCqTiwRAtvkAKCY/6rDF55sby+15eUMBsmCZmbFPACeMyn8 XU3s8A8trlOOyvjfCe6HG2k= =DkaC -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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