Tried what you said still no joy... here's my listing of my /tmp dir... funky@linux:~> ls -l /tmp total 8905 drwx------ 3 root root 72 2003-01-08 04:42 0007089143 drwx------ 3 root root 72 2003-01-15 13:43 0069724073 drwx------ 3 root root 72 2002-12-30 21:18 0083073275 drwx------ 3 root root 72 2002-12-30 01:40 0195443759 drwx------ 3 root root 72 2002-12-23 00:15 0230450753 drwx------ 3 root root 72 2002-12-26 21:53 0291529659 drwx------ 3 root root 72 2003-01-11 05:46 0310265638 drwx------ 3 root root 72 2003-01-15 13:42 0332605512 drwx------ 3 root root 72 2002-12-25 10:17 0422701155 drwx------ 3 root root 72 2002-12-16 11:16 0458070637 drwx------ 3 root root 72 2002-12-25 21:31 0496860581 drwx------ 3 root root 72 2003-01-07 02:40 0535725588 drwx------ 3 root root 72 2003-01-01 15:19 0556953243 drwx------ 3 root root 72 2003-01-05 01:54 0636407476 drwx------ 3 root root 72 2002-12-31 18:53 0702767792 drwx------ 3 root root 72 2002-12-26 13:50 0722776567 drwx------ 3 root root 72 2002-12-31 11:44 0878119338 drwx------ 3 root root 72 2002-12-29 02:27 0904482068 drwx------ 3 root root 72 2002-10-19 16:27 0935793867 drwx------ 3 root root 72 2003-01-10 01:33 0946838948 drwx------ 3 root root 72 2003-01-13 14:33 0965685028 drwx------ 3 root root 72 2002-12-19 21:47 1011051083 drwx------ 3 root root 72 2002-12-27 23:38 1048797539 drwx------ 3 root root 72 2002-12-31 09:12 1089127010 drwx------ 3 root root 72 2003-01-04 02:33 1095877011 drwx------ 3 root root 72 2002-12-24 20:11 1119033192 drwx------ 3 root root 72 2003-01-02 01:42 1350846799 drwx------ 3 root root 72 2003-01-04 02:31 1442827192 drwx------ 3 root root 72 2002-12-28 00:19 1597325376 drwx------ 3 root root 72 2003-01-13 01:43 1599760866 drwx------ 3 root root 72 2003-01-02 18:42 1611297040 drwx------ 3 root root 72 2002-12-25 21:21 1651561777 drwx------ 3 root root 72 2003-01-13 01:46 1705336413 drwx------ 3 root root 72 2003-01-11 15:03 1711145505 drwx------ 3 root root 72 2002-12-23 03:00 1810107848 drwx------ 3 root root 72 2002-12-16 20:58 1917566083 drwx------ 3 root root 72 2003-01-15 03:12 1923701855 drwx------ 3 root root 72 2003-01-11 15:01 1936536143 drwx------ 3 root root 72 2003-01-01 09:12 2050538469 drwx------ 3 root root 72 2002-12-25 01:19 2059501180 drwx------ 3 root root 72 2003-01-13 22:40 2101180597 drwx------ 3 root root 72 2002-12-26 21:56 2140180215 -rw-r--r-- 1 funky users 2560 2002-12-31 13:47 9fe2.tmp drwx------ 2 root root 48 2002-12-24 17:26 YaST2-01163 drwx------ 2 root root 152 2003-01-10 13:04 YaST2-02968 drwx------ 2 root root 80 2003-01-10 13:05 YaST2-03000 drwx------ 2 root root 48 2003-01-08 00:59 YaST2-06692 drwx------ 2 root root 48 2003-01-08 00:59 YaST2-06734 drwx------ 2 root root 48 2003-01-11 16:00 YaST2.tdir drwx------ 3 funky users 80 2002-12-31 13:46 evolution-500-1211 -rw-r--r-- 1 funky users 1245185 2003-01-15 02:23 file4wboB2 -rw-r--r-- 1 funky users 655361 2003-01-15 02:22 fileVGDxt5 -rw-r--r-- 1 funky users 2424833 2003-01-15 02:08 filemwBcUr -rw-r--r-- 1 funky users 3407873 2003-01-15 02:08 fileoEnYtE -rw------- 1 funky users 985 2002-12-26 15:03 gaimGrL6RX -rw------- 1 funky users 985 2003-01-15 00:40 gaimLcdg0r -rw------- 1 funky users 985 2003-01-12 14:11 gaimNBNg43 srw------- 1 funky users 0 2002-12-31 10:56 gaim_funky.1198 srw------- 1 funky users 0 2003-01-12 10:12 gaim_funky.1731 srw------- 1 funky users 0 2003-01-14 19:32 gaim_funky.2121 srw------- 1 funky users 0 2003-01-14 11:45 gaim_funky.3580 srw------- 1 funky users 0 2002-12-26 15:03 gaim_funky.3801 srw------- 1 funky users 0 2003-01-15 12:16 gaim_funky.3919 srw------- 1 funky users 0 2003-01-15 00:40 gaim_funky.6520 srw------- 1 funky users 0 2002-12-30 18:22 gaim_funky.6800 -rw------- 1 funky users 985 2003-01-14 19:32 gaimby7kwQ -rw------- 1 funky users 985 2003-01-14 11:45 gaimegeSuE -rw------- 1 funky users 985 2003-01-15 12:16 gaiml4HMjc drwx------ 3 dre users 128 2003-01-15 00:33 kde-dre drwx------ 4 funky users 12944 2003-01-15 13:51 kde-funky drwx------ 3 root root 128 2003-01-14 18:42 kde-root drwx------ 2 dre users 48 2003-01-15 00:39 ksocket-dre drwx------ 2 funky users 816 2003-01-15 13:52 ksocket-funky drwx------ 2 root root 48 2003-01-14 19:31 ksocket-root drwx------ 3 dre users 112 2003-01-15 00:39 mcop-dre drwx------ 3 funky users 816 2003-01-15 13:51 mcop-funky drwx------ 3 root root 112 2003-01-13 16:36 mcop-root srwxrwxrwx 1 funky users 0 2003-01-15 13:51 medusa-idled-service drwx------ 2 root root 48 2002-12-05 22:15 migrate drwx------ 2 funky users 48 2002-12-16 19:15 migrate-1 -rw-r--r-- 1 funky users 3337 2003-01-09 23:31 oe5_2mbox.6485 drwx------ 2 funky users 15872 2003-01-15 13:55 orbit-funky drwx------ 2 root root 912 2003-01-12 03:23 orbit-root -rwxr--r-- 1 funky users 37668 2003-01-08 23:07 scrollkeeper-tempfile.0 -rwxr--r-- 1 funky users 37668 2003-01-09 16:31 scrollkeeper-tempfile.1 -rwxr--r-- 1 funky users 37668 2003-01-10 12:31 scrollkeeper-tempfile.2 -rwxr--r-- 1 funky users 37668 2003-01-11 15:12 scrollkeeper-tempfile.3 -rwxr--r-- 1 funky users 37668 2003-01-04 10:20 scrollkeeper-tempfile.4 -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 2315 2002-11-28 02:16 set_val -rw------- 1 root root 537214 2003-01-09 16:58 siga.html -rw------- 1 root root 546458 2003-01-09 16:58 siga.txt Tia Dre --------

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Try this. In an xterm, su to root and enter init 3. This will put you in a console on tty1. su to your user with a problem (IMPORTANT-DO NOT DO THIS AS ROOT). cd to /tmp. With my new understanding of the sticky bit on this directory, if you do a rm * as your normal user (the one with the problem), it should ONLY delete the files owned/writeable to that user in the /tmp directory. After this has been done, exit back to root, and enter init 5. This will start X and kdm. You can Ctrl-Alt-F1 to go back to the tty1 console and logout, then Alt-F7 to go back to the graphical login, and login, and try kmail again. If it still has problems, let us know. If it is something in /tmp, this should remove the problem. HTH.

Well still on it... ;-) funky@linux:~> ls -ls ~/.kde/share/config/kmailrc 8 -rw------- 1 funky users 6644 2003-01-01 17:22 /home/funky/.kde/share/config/kmailrc I have tried what Jon said many thanks..:-> but still can't get kmail to run under this particular account 'funky'. This app works ok under the new account ??? I do a compare of the two ~ directories & can't find out why, what is happening? Can I do a diff on two directories & files at the same time for file permissions, owners, filesizes, dates etc... to get to the bottom of this problem? Tia Dre

Your problem is not in /tmp, it is in your home directory. Try Jon's suggestion (rename or backup your kmailrc file). If that isn't it, look at your mailbox files. Compare with your new test user that works. You'll find it soon. :-)

-- Joe Morris New Tribes Mission Email Address: Joe_Morris@ntm.org Web Address: http://www.mydestiny.net/~joe_morris Registered Linux user 231871 God said, I AM that I AM. I say, by the grace of God, I am what I am.

-- arawak

Thanks Jon ;-) -----snip----

Well still on it... ;-) Keep with it ;o) Did & Voila it solves the none startup of kmail issue .... :-> -----snip----

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I have tried what Jon said many thanks..:-> but still can't get kmail to run under this particular account 'funky'. Hmm. How about your actual ~/Mail dir. Try renaming it with: mv ~/Mail ~/MailBackup

See if KMail starts up. If it does, then the problem may well be there.

Many thanks to all of you that helped :-> I was not going to give up on it, it wasn't going to beat me ..lol Cheers Dre