I have mv /tmp/.ICE-unix to /tmp/.ICE-unix.old recreated /tmp/.ICE-unix chmod 777 /tmp/.ICE-unix no sticky bit there now... tried to look through the 88Mb file ;) but it was too large to find a failure ... Can you tell me what error I could grep for? When I restarted started kmail, a message 'Klaunch was unable to start DCOP' So I've restarted X & tried to run kmail but still it will not start I see it running in top at 94% cpu and killall -9 kmail... Below is a listing of a few more directories that may have something kmail from starting... funky@linux:~/.kde> ls -l total 0 drwxr-xr-x 2 funky users 80 2002-10-05 20:22 Autostart drwxr-xr-x 12 funky users 304 2002-10-06 19:15 share lrwxrwxrwx 1 funky users 18 2002-10-05 20:21 socket-linux -> /tmp/ksocket-f unky lrwxrwxrwx 1 funky users 14 2002-10-05 20:21 tmp-linux -> /tmp/kde-funky funky@linux:~/.kde> ls -l total 0 drwxr-xr-x 2 funky users 80 2002-10-05 20:22 Autostart drwxr-xr-x 12 funky users 304 2002-10-06 19:15 share lrwxrwxrwx 1 funky users 18 2002-10-05 20:21 socket-linux -> /tmp/ksocket-funky lrwxrwxrwx 1 funky users 14 2002-10-05 20:21 tmp-linux -> /tmp/kde-funky funky@linux:~/.kde> cd socket-linux/ funky@linux:~/.kde/socket-linux> ll total 4 -rw-r--r-- 1 funky users 37 2003-01-15 12:02 KSMserver__0 srw------- 1 funky users 0 2003-01-15 12:02 kdeinit-:0 srw------- 1 funky nogroup 0 2003-01-15 12:02 kdesud_:0 srwxr-xr-x 1 funky users 0 2003-01-08 08:47 klauncher16CHCa.slave-socket srwxr-xr-x 1 funky users 0 2003-01-11 19:00 klauncherGtJcDa.slave-socket srwxr-xr-x 1 funky users 0 2003-01-15 12:02 klauncherLP9OIb.slave-socket srwxr-xr-x 1 funky users 0 2002-12-22 23:10 klauncherM9AnMa.slave-socket srwxr-xr-x 1 funky users 0 2003-01-14 10:24 klauncherOvMeLb.slave-socket srwxr-xr-x 1 funky users 0 2003-01-12 16:48 klauncherOwqFba.slave-socket srwxr-xr-x 1 funky users 0 2003-01-15 02:00 klauncherQfH8Nb.slave-socket srwxr-xr-x 1 funky users 0 2003-01-11 19:12 klauncherV2841b.slave-socket srwxr-xr-x 1 funky users 0 2003-01-12 09:22 klauncherffsxKa.slave-socket srwxr-xr-x 1 funky users 0 2003-01-11 10:38 klauncherfsK6da.slave-socket srwxr-xr-x 1 funky users 0 2002-11-27 14:31 klauncherlCGZGb.slave-socket srwxr-xr-x 1 funky users 0 2003-01-01 16:46 klaunchervjmuna.slave-socket srwxr-xr-x 1 funky users 0 2003-01-10 12:07 klauncherxam9Qa.slave-socket funky@linux:~/.kde/socket-linux> Tia Dre