Mads Martin Joergensen wrote:

Use rpm directly on the commandline on the mounted image.

$ mount /media/cdrom $ cd /media/cdrom/path/to/packages/depending/on/your/arch (i386 or x86_64) $ rpm -Uvh package.rpm

Mads!. I cannot se any media nor in /media nor in /mnt. Can you help me here ? And the DVD is in it's tray :-) -- Med venlig hilsen / Best regards Erik Jakobsen eja@urbakken.dk Registered Linux user #114875 - http://counter.li.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Mads Martin Joergensen wrote:

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First do:

$ ls /media

And paste it here. Maybe also the contents of /etc/fstab

Another possibility is to do:

$ mkdir /tmp/dvd-mount-point $ mount /dev/cdrom /tmp/dvd-mount-point

And then repeat the above with /media/cdrom changed to /tmp/dvd-mount-point.

Wish I could, but I tried the update option, and when booting I now now get the error: Error 15: File not found, and this is a stopper to my view of point -at least -- Med venlig hilsen / Best regards Erik Jakobsen eja@urbakken.dk Registered Linux user #114875 - http://counter.li.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

* Erik Jakobsen [Dec 08. 2008 12:24]:

Wish I could, but I tried the update option, and when booting I now now get the error:

Error 15: File not found, and this is a stopper to my view of point -at least

Yeah--that look like another can of worms.. I've never seen it at least. -- Mads Martin Joergensen, http://mmj.dk "Why make things difficult, when it is possible to make them cryptic and totally illogical, with just a little bit more effort?" -- A. P. J. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

On Mon, Dec 8, 2008 at 6:24 AM, Erik Jakobsen wrote:

Wish I could, but I tried the update option, and when booting I now now get the error:

Error 15: File not found, and this is a stopper to my view of point -at least

Either your kernel is gone or grub is not pointing to the right location. If you have the install dvd, you should be able to boot into the system. Iirc, if you boot off the disc, there should be an option to boot installed system either before installation or when you cancel install. You can reinstall the kernel and anything that has to do with yast2. If you'd rather not try to guess what needs to be installed, boot off the disc and select the repair installation option. Nkoli -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Dave Plater wrote:

Nkoli wrote:

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On Mon, Dec 8, 2008 at 6:24 AM, Erik Jakobsen wrote:

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Wish I could, but I tried the update option, and when booting I now now get the error:

Error 15: File not found, and this is a stopper to my view of point -at least

Either your kernel is gone or grub is not pointing to the right location. If you have the install dvd, you should be able to boot into the system. Iirc, if you boot off the disc, there should be an option to boot installed system either before installation or when you cancel install. You can reinstall the kernel and anything that has to do with yast2.

If you'd rather not try to guess what needs to be installed, boot off the disc and select the repair installation option.

Nkoli

Unfortunately there isn't a boot installed system on 11.0 dvd, the repair installed system option takes care of any critical packages that are missing. The only way to bypass the bootloader in 11.0 is to use kexec from the rescue disk. Regards Dave P

And now it's not possible to make a rescue disk if I'm right ? -- Med venlig hilsen / Best regards Erik Jakobsen eja@urbakken.dk Registered Linux user #114875 - http://counter.li.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Dave Plater wrote:

Erik Jakobsen wrote:

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Dave Plater wrote:

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Unfortunately there isn't a boot installed system on 11.0 dvd, the repair installed system option takes care of any critical packages that are missing. The only way to bypass the bootloader in 11.0 is to use kexec from the rescue disk. Regards Dave P

And now it's not possible to make a rescue disk if I'm right ?

The rescue disk is part of the install dvd it gives a command line interface and it is just below repair installed system in the dvd boot menu. If you boot your opensuse 11.0 install dvd and select the repair installed system option from the dvd boot menu it should fix any problems with missing files, incorrect configuration, filesystem errors and bootloader problems. Regards Dave P

Yes I have tried the repair installed system several times. There is a bootloader problem, that I cannot solve. I know what you means by the rescue disk, that I can see, if I boot from the DVD. -- Med venlig hilsen / Best regards Erik Jakobsen eja@urbakken.dk Registered Linux user #114875 - http://counter.li.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Carlos E. R. wrote:

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On Monday, 2008-12-08 at 16:54 +0100, Erik Jakobsen wrote:

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Yes I have tried the repair installed system several times. There is a bootloader problem, that I cannot solve.

Can you expand info on that, please? Symptoms, exact messages you see?

I will try it, but it's a bit difficult as it's not possible to make screenshots. Only a camera can do it, But I will try it. At the present I run a repair session. -- Med venlig hilsen / Best regards Erik Jakobsen eja@urbakken.dk Registered Linux user #114875 - http://counter.li.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Dave Plater wrote:

The quickest method to boot installed system is:- from rescue system mount / and /boot if you have a separate boot partition at /mnt ie. mount /dev/sdxx /mnt then execute this command :- kexec -l /mnt/boot/vmlinuz --initrd=/mnt/boot/initrd --command-line=root=/dev/sdxx Obviously the dev/sdxx xx is replaced with your actual partition and disk letter and number and the --command-line= option can take any option you wish to pass to the kernel. After entering the above command type kexec -e and your system will boot. I find the easiest way to fix bootloader problems is to rpm -i --force kernel-xxxxxxxxx and let the installation script take care of the bootloader but if you managed to reinstall yast and zypper etc. from dvd using update your system you can then use yast to fix the bootloader problem. Regards Dave P

Ok Dave. Thanks for the information. I cannot quite follow what I have to do. Would be more easy, if being able to use yast, but as you can see in my screenshots, I'm unable to boot. http://www.urbakken.dk/hpim0823.jpg http://www.urbakken.dk/hpim0824.jpg http://www.urbakken.dk/hpim0825.jpg http://www.urbakken.dk/hpim0826.jpg As I cannot boot, i also cannot run the fdisk -l command to see the info for the HDD -- Med venlig hilsen / Best regards Erik Jakobsen eja@urbakken.dk Registered Linux user #114875 - http://counter.li.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Larry Stotler wrote:

On Mon, Dec 8, 2008 at 11:41 AM, Erik Jakobsen wrote:

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Thanks for the information. I cannot quite follow what I have to do. Would be more easy, if being able to use yast, but as you can see in my screenshots, I'm unable to boot.

Personally, I just backup the home directory and anything else I need(like my smb.conf) and then just re-install. Much easier.

Hi Larry. Quite right it is. As I encountered the problem I thought I would wait for the new 11.1, and then have the HDD containing 11.0 temporarely connected in the computer, mount it, and then copy what's necessary. As there is only few days untill 11.1, I'll not install RC1. Thanks for your coments. One thing to say is, that doing that one doesn't learn about using the rescue on the DVD. I hope to find a place where the rescue is detailed shwon -- Med venlig hilsen / Best regards Erik Jakobsen eja@urbakken.dk Registered Linux user #114875 - http://counter.li.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Erik Jakobsen wrote:

Dave Plater wrote:

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The quickest method to boot installed system is:- from rescue system mount / and /boot if you have a separate boot partition at /mnt ie. mount /dev/sdxx /mnt then execute this command :- kexec -l /mnt/boot/vmlinuz --initrd=/mnt/boot/initrd --command-line=root=/dev/sdxx Obviously the dev/sdxx xx is replaced with your actual partition and disk letter and number and the --command-line= option can take any option you wish to pass to the kernel. After entering the above command type kexec -e and your system will boot. I find the easiest way to fix bootloader problems is to rpm -i --force kernel-xxxxxxxxx and let the installation script take care of the bootloader but if you managed to reinstall yast and zypper etc. from dvd using update your system you can then use yast to fix the bootloader problem. Regards Dave P

Ok Dave.

Thanks for the information. I cannot quite follow what I have to do. Would be more easy, if being able to use yast, but as you can see in my screenshots, I'm unable to boot.

http://www.urbakken.dk/hpim0823.jpg http://www.urbakken.dk/hpim0824.jpg http://www.urbakken.dk/hpim0825.jpg http://www.urbakken.dk/hpim0826.jpg

As I cannot boot, i also cannot run the fdisk -l command to see the info for the HDD

when you are in the repair system you can press ctrl/alt/F2 to get a console and you can run fdisk -l from there. If you are happy that all of your system packages are restored you can try my method to boot from the rescue system. I am guessing your root partition is /dev/sda2 as your screen shot shows. 1) Boot into rescue system from DVD 2)mount /dev/sda2 /mnt 3)kexec -l /mnt/boot/vmlinuz --initrd=/mnt/boot/initrd --command-line=root=/dev/sda2 4)kexec -e Your kernel will now boot. Regards Dave P -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Erik Jakobsen wrote:

Dave Plater wrote:

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when you are in the repair system you can press ctrl/alt/F2 to get a console and you can run fdisk -l from there. If you are happy that all of your system packages are restored you can try my method to boot from the rescue system. I am guessing your root partition is /dev/sda2 as your screen shot shows. 1) Boot into rescue system from DVD 2)mount /dev/sda2 /mnt 3)kexec -l /mnt/boot/vmlinuz --initrd=/mnt/boot/initrd --command-line=root=/dev/sda2 4)kexec -e Your kernel will now boot. Regards Dave P

Hello Dave.

Many thanks for your reply.

I can do what you have shown me to do. But no I'm not sure:

"all of your system packages are restored"

No not all packages are restored. If I try to run yast from the prompt I only get up the blue yast screen with no text but the Quit and Help.

But thanks to your sugestions I now have access to the system via my lan from my other computers.

Unfortunately I cannot see my 2 CD drives, but know they can be accessed as I have booted from the DVD 11.0.

/etc/fstab:

/dev/disk/by-id/scsi-SATA_WDC_WD800JB-00J_WD-WCAM9M475425-part1 swap swap defaults 0 0 /dev/disk/by-id/scsi-SATA_WDC_WD800JB-00J_WD-WCAM9M475425-part2 / ext3 acl,user_xattr 1 1 /dev/disk/by-id/scsi-SATA_WDC_WD800JB-00J_WD-WCAM9M475425-part3 /home ext3 acl,user_xattr 1 2 proc /proc proc defaults 0 0 sysfs /sys sysfs noauto 0 0 debugfs /sys/kernel/debug debugfs noauto 0 0 usbfs /proc/bus/usb usbfs noauto 0 0 devpts /dev/pts devpts mode=0620,gid=5 0 0

You are most probably missing some other key yast packages or possibly ncurses and the best way to get them back is via the DVD installation system. Select update from the installation system and then from the details section of the package selection you can install your missing packages, the yast you enter in the installation system update is the same as the one you would normally use in your system. At this stage I would do things Larry's way and backup my home directories and do a clean install but if you have time and patience you could possibly get your system back again the hard way. Regards Dave P -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

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Unfortunately there isn't a boot installed system on 11.0 dvd, the repair installed system option takes care of any critical packages that are missing. The only way to bypass the bootloader in 11.0 is to use kexec from the rescue disk.

You can boot rescue, then chroot and reinstall/reconfigure/whatever bootloeader and kernel if you need. - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAkk9P6MACgkQtTMYHG2NR9XcXgCfUqWRKrmIzX/CWGwdpLYTposG gjQAoItikP4LgTiLzu48SYwMw8TI3QtI =Xi8i -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Nkoli wrote:

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Either your kernel is gone or grub is not pointing to the right location. If you have the install dvd, you should be able to boot into the system. Iirc, if you boot off the disc, there should be an option to boot installed system either before installation or when you cancel install. You can reinstall the kernel and anything that has to do with yast2.

If you'd rather not try to guess what needs to be installed, boot off the disc and select the repair installation option.

Nkoli

I can boot now, but issues with yast2 still remains. Please have a look here on the last msg I sent. -- Med venlig hilsen / Best regards Erik Jakobsen eja@urbakken.dk Registered Linux user #114875 - http://counter.li.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

* Erik Jakobsen [Dec 09. 2008 07:12]:

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Another possibility is to do:

$ mkdir /tmp/dvd-mount-point $ mount /dev/cdrom /tmp/dvd-mount-point

And then repeat the above with /media/cdrom changed to /tmp/dvd-mount-point.

What you write above gives me access to the DVD media ?

At least I have access to my 11.0 DVD media now

Could I ask you to show me the "repeat" part ?.

No, the repeat part I was referring to, was the one where you install the missing rpm's directly from the commandline from the media. Now you have the path, and can cd into the directory you need. -- Mads Martin Joergensen, http://mmj.dk "Why make things difficult, when it is possible to make them cryptic and totally illogical, with just a little bit more effort?" -- A. P. J. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Tuesday, 2008-12-09 at 08:16 +0100, Erik Jakobsen wrote:

Many thanks Mads, but now I have to take care of the obviously broken Grub. And I'm searching for Supergrub that should be a good tool I have been told.

http://www.supergrubdisk.org/ - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAkk+aXoACgkQtTMYHG2NR9WoHwCeMwXbbfcllKf505sVKzGJ6Oma 3jgAn3+7h0o8WiPnGjeL/N2Y6h2hMBIA =/5I+ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Carlos E. R. wrote:

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Another possibility is to do:

$ mkdir /tmp/dvd-mount-point $ mount /dev/cdrom /tmp/dvd-mount-point

And then repeat the above with /media/cdrom changed to /tmp/dvd-mount-point.

What you write above gives me access to the DVD media ?

At least I have access to my 11.0 DVD media now

Could I ask you to show me the "repeat" part ?. Why is it necessary to do the repeat for the cdrom ?

I don't think so, it is just a name.

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I wonder why I have the

Error 15: File not found

You should explain when and where you get that message. I can guess it is a grub message, when you try to boot. Then, on "info grub" you get the info:

I get this message just when the computer starts booting up.

] 15 : File not found ] This error is returned if the specified file name cannot be found, ] but everything else (like the disk/partition info) is OK.

It probably means that the kernel image or the initrd image are not there; either they are not there (not installed), or the name is typed incorrectly in grub menu.

If grub, anything must have changed it due to my removement.

Guessing again, grub menu is pointing to the last updated kernel image, whereas if you restored the kernel from the dvd, you have an older version.

I did not restore the kernel from the DVD

You have to edit /boot/grub/menu.lst, find the entry you use, something like:

###Don't change this comment - YaST2 identifier: Original name: linux### title openSUSE 11.1 - 2.6.27.7-4 root (hd0,7) kernel /vmlinuz-2.6.27.7-4-pae root=/dev/disk/by-label/160_test resume=/dev/disk/by-label/320_swap splash=silent showopts vga=0x317 initrd /initrd-2.6.27.7-4-pae

replace (mutandis mutandi) /vmlinuz-2.6.27.7-4-pae with /vmlinuz, and /initrd-2.6.27.7-4-pae with /initrd. Should work.

What is (mutandis mutandi) ? My menu.lst shows this: # Modified by YaST2. Last modification on Sun Sep 28 10:09:28 CEST 2008 ###YaST update: former default image flavor: pae### default 0 timeout 8 gfxmenu (hd0,1)/boot/message ##YaST - activate ###Don't change this comment - YaST2 identifier: Original name: linux### title openSUSE 11.0 - 2.6.25.16-0.1 (default) root (hd0,1) kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.25.16-0.1-default root=/dev/disk/by-id/scsi-SATA_WDC_WD800JB-00J_WD-WCAM9M475425-part2 resume=/dev/sda1 splash=silent showopts vga=0x31a initrd /boot/initrd-2.6.25.16-0.1-default ###Don't change this comment - YaST2 identifier: Original name: failsafe### title Failsafe -- openSUSE 11.0 - 2.6.25.16-0.1 root (hd0,1) kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.25.16-0.1-default root=/dev/disk/by-id/scsi-SATA_WDC_WD800JB-00J_WD-WCAM9M475425-part2 showopts ide=nodma apm=off acpi=off noresume nosmp noapic maxcpus=0 edd=off x11failsafe vga=0x31a initrd /boot/initrd-2.6.25.16-0.1-default ###Don't change this comment - YaST2 identifier: Original name: linux-2.6.25.16-0.1-debug### title Debug -- openSUSE 11.0 - 2.6.25.16-0.1 root (hd0,1) kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.25.16-0.1-debug root=/dev/disk/by-id/scsi-SATA_WDC_WD800JB-00J_WD-WCAM9M475425-part2 resume=/dev/sda1 splash=silent showopts vga=0x31a initrd /boot/initrd-2.6.25.16-0.1-debug ###Don't change this comment - YaST2 identifier: Original name: xen### title Xen -- openSUSE 11.0 - 2.6.25.16-0.1 root (hd0,1) kernel /boot/xen.gz module /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.25.16-0.1-xen root=/dev/disk/by-id/scsi-SATA_WDC_WD800JB-00J_WD-WCAM9M475425-part2 resume=/dev/sda1 splash=silent showopts vga=0x31a module /boot/initrd-2.6.25.16-0.1-xen ###Don't change this comment - YaST2 identifier: Original name: floppy### title Floppy rootnoverify (hd0,1) chainloader (fd0)+1

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Before the culprit has been found there's no chance to boot normal.

What say Mads.

I can also wait for the 11.1, as I can access this HDD, and copy the /home to the new HDD I'll use for 11.1

Next time, when you uninstall anything, think twice, and have a real hard look at what is going to be uninstalled. Don't just press "enter, enter, enter". This is not windows!

I'm not sure if I mentioned windows, but I might not remembering that. -- Med venlig hilsen / Best regards Erik Jakobsen eja@urbakken.dk Registered Linux user #114875 - http://counter.li.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Carlos E. R. wrote:

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replace (mutandis mutandi) /vmlinuz-2.6.27.7-4-pae with /vmlinuz, and /initrd-2.6.27.7-4-pae with /initrd. Should work.

What is (mutandis mutandi) ?

A Latin expression used in maths, meaning changing what needs to be changed. Ie, don't take the expression literally.

Ok, thanks.

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My menu.lst shows this:

# Modified by YaST2. Last modification on Sun Sep 28 10:09:28 CEST 2008 ###YaST update: former default image flavor: pae### default 0 timeout 8 gfxmenu (hd0,1)/boot/message ##YaST - activate

###Don't change this comment - YaST2 identifier: Original name: linux### title openSUSE 11.0 - 2.6.25.16-0.1 (default) root (hd0,1) kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.25.16-0.1-default root=/dev/disk/by-id/scsi-SATA_WDC_WD800JB-00J_WD-WCAM9M475425-part2 resume=/dev/sda1 splash=silent showopts vga=0x31a initrd /boot/initrd-2.6.25.16-0.1-default

So, if you use that, you must make sure that your kernel is indeed /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.25.16-0.1-default.

Using uname -a I think.

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Next time, when you uninstall anything, think twice, and have a real hard look at what is going to be uninstalled. Don't just press "enter, enter, enter". This is not windows!

I'm not sure if I mentioned windows, but I might not remembering that.

I mean that don't click "accept" without reading first, as windows users do. You are the administrator and have a responsibility to know what you are doing.

Yes ok. -- Med venlig hilsen / Best regards Erik Jakobsen eja@urbakken.dk Registered Linux user #114875 - http://counter.li.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

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What is (mutandis mutandi) ?

A faulty ablativus absolutus. The correct expression: mutatis mutandis, after substituting what has to be substituted.

Ah, yes, I stand corrected. Thanks! - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAkk+/rgACgkQtTMYHG2NR9VImACggRnLHWvFzYCzjRBNqFk+uN0w 2BkAn3mI3y5laEvw0nLbP5vUMvOJncqm =sTH6 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

I got this when I ran uname -a:

Linux dhcppc3 2.6.25.5-1.1-pae #1 SMP 2008-06-07 01:55:22 +0200 i686 athlon i386 GNU/Linux

And this is not the one in menu.lst

To be sure, that I do it correct, please write me what I have to insert/change. Thanks!

I got the boot to work now, by setting in the running kernel. That's ok, but I lost so much I can see, so that would be a very huge job to reinstall Yast, Zypper, Sax2 and all the other packages, that is not installed. Of course it can be done with RPM, but as there are so many dependencies. Think I'll wait for the 11.1 version. Thanks for all, that replied to me and has helped me -- Med venlig hilsen / Best regards Erik Jakobsen eja@urbakken.dk Registered Linux user #114875 - http://counter.li.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Carlos E. R. wrote:

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I got the boot to work now, by setting in the running kernel.

Good!

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That's ok, but I lost so much I can see, so that would be a very huge job to reinstall Yast, Zypper, Sax2 and all the other packages, that is not installed.

Not really...

OK, sounds good.

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Of course it can be done with RPM, but as there are so many dependencies.

Don't worry. It is just a question of patience. First install yast, using rpm commands (put in one line the rpm command with all the needed packages from the dvd), then tell yast to install whatever you think you need. You are not the first one that had to do that.

Ok, that means: rpm -Uvh Yast 1 Yast2 and so on ?

Perhaps: cd to the directory in the dvd holding the yast packages, and try:

rpm -i yast*

That's nice.

If it says it needs something else, add it to the line. It is doable!

Ok.

However, the automatic rescue function of the install DVD should be able to do all that automatically. Did you try that?

But there are errors, and after a rescue there's no news installed. Does the rescue do a logfile ?

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Think I'll wait for the 11.1 version.

Whatever :-)

:-) Many thanks mate. -- Med venlig hilsen / Best regards Erik Jakobsen eja@urbakken.dk Registered Linux user #114875 - http://counter.li.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Erik Jakobsen wrote:

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However, the automatic rescue function of the install DVD should be able to do all that automatically. Did you try that?

After having booted on the DVD, I see Repair Installed and rescue. Not the automated rescue. Have I overseen something ?

Use repair installed system. Regards Dave P -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Erik Jakobsen wrote:

Dave Plater wrote:

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Erik Jakobsen wrote:

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However, the automatic rescue function of the install DVD should be able to do all that automatically. Did you try that?

After having booted on the DVD, I see Repair Installed and rescue. Not the automated rescue. Have I overseen something ?

Use repair installed system. Regards Dave P

Hi Dave.

I have tried it, but there are errors during the job. Can I see a log.

If you select installation and then the choice update, you can select detailed software and it will put you into yast where you can select your missing packages for installation and the dependencies will be automatically taken care of. Regards Dave P -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Wednesday, 2008-12-10 at 08:15 +0100, Erik Jakobsen wrote:

I have tried it, but there are errors during the job. Can I see a log.

Yes, but it is a ramdisk, I think. Can't you copy to paper the errors you see and post them later? At least the first few errors. Knowing what it complains of, we should be better able to help... You know, it is harder for us to explain what to do than actually doing it. And as we can't see what is happening, it is even harder :-) - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAkk/sqYACgkQtTMYHG2NR9WejACfUJrb3Kr7W72XaJF57mLz93E7 2w4AoJQdU6xezKmvhWptahbAM118ZhLj =7Tsa -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

On Wed, 10 Dec 2008, Erik Jakobsen wrote:- <snip>

Where can I find yast2-installation ?

It's on the DVD in suse/noarch. Purely out of curiosity, and since no-one has yet mentioned it, have you installed zypper? If you have, you should be able to use that to find out which packages you need to install by using: zypper ve and it will provide a list of packages that need to be removed or installed to fix broken dependencies. If you've left the DVD listed as a repository, have it install all the required dependencies. Just use: zypper in [list of packages required] and that will install the packages. You shouldn't need to list all the packages listed by the "zypper ve" command as zypper will add any packages as required to satisfy the dependencies. Regards, David Bolt -- Team Acorn: http://www.distributed.net/ OGR-NG @ ~100Mnodes RC5-72 @ ~1Mkeys/s SUSE 10.1 32 | | openSUSE 10.3 32b | openSUSE 11.0 32b | openSUSE 10.2 64b | openSUSE 10.3 64b | openSUSE 11.0 64b RISC OS 3.6 | TOS 4.02 | openSUSE 10.3 PPC | RISC OS 3.11 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

David Bolt wrote:

It's on the DVD in suse/noarch.

Ok fine.

Purely out of curiosity, and since no-one has yet mentioned it, have you installed zypper? If you have, you should be able to use that to find out which packages you need to install by using:

zypper ve

Gives: zypper ve Downloading repository 'Packman Repository' metadata [done] Building repository 'Packman Repository' cache [done] Reading installed packages... Dependencies of all installed packages are satisfied. (seems that I only have the Packman Repository?) No they are here: # zypper lr # | Alias | Name | Enabled | Refresh ---+------------------------------------------------------------------------+------------------------------------------------------------------------+---------+-------- 1 | Nvidia_1 | Nvidia | Yes | Yes 2 | Main Update Repository_2_1_16 | Main Update Repository | Yes | Yes 3 | repo-non-oss | openSUSE-11.0-Non-Oss | Yes | No 4 | Main Update Repository_2_1 | Main Update Repository | Yes | Yes 5 | Main Update Repository_2_1_5 | Main Update Repository | Yes | Yes 6 | Main Update Repository_2_1_4 | Main Update Repository | Yes | Yes 7 | Main Update Repository_2_1_17 | Main Update Repository | Yes | Yes 8 | Main Repository (OSS) | Main Repository (OSS) | Yes | Yes 9 | Nvidia_1_6 | Nvidia | Yes | Yes 10 | Main Update Repository_2_1_11 | Main Update Repository | Yes | Yes 11 | Nvidia_1_5 | Nvidia | Yes | Yes 12 | Jengelhard | Jengelhard | Yes | No 13 | openSUSE-DVD 11.0 | openSUSE-DVD 11.0 | Yes | No 14 | Compiz | Compiz | Yes | Yes 15 | Packman Repository | Packman Repository | Yes | Yes 16 | home:prusnak:scou | home:prusnak:scou | Yes | Yes 17 | Webpin | Webpin | Yes | Yes 18 | repo-debug | openSUSE-11.0-Debug | Yes | No 19 | Main Update Repository_2_1_3 | Main Update Repository | Yes | Yes 20 | NVIDIA Repository | NVIDIA Repository | Yes | Yes 21 | Main Update Repository_2_1_14 | Main Update Repository | Yes | Yes 22 | OO | OO | Yes | Yes 23 | home:prusnak:scout:data | home:prusnak:scout:data | Yes | Yes 24 | Hamradio | Hamradio | Yes | Yes 25 | Packman_1 | Packman | Yes | Yes 26 | Videolan | Videolan | Yes | Yes 27 | Nvidia_1_1 | Nvidia | Yes | Yes 28 | Main Update Repository_2_1_1 | Main Update Repository | Yes | Yes 29 | repo-oss | openSUSE-11.0-Oss | Yes | No 30 | Wine | Wine | Yes | Yes 31 | 20080704-175447 | 20080704-175447 | Yes | Yes 32 | Jsemix | Jsemix | Yes | Yes 33 | Nvidia_1_3 | Nvidia | Yes | Yes 34 | Main Update Repository_2_1_12 | Main Update Repository | Yes | Yes 35 | Nvidia_1_2 | Nvidia | Yes | Yes 36 | Main Update Repository_2_1_8 | Main Update Repository | Yes | Yes 37 | Wine_1 | Wine | Yes | Yes 38 | Nvidia_1_4 | Nvidia | Yes | Yes 39 | Anubigs | Anubigs | Yes | Yes 40 | VideoLan Repository | VideoLan Repository | Yes | Yes 41 | Main Update Repository_2_1_15 | Main Update Repository | Yes | Yes 42 | Wine_2 | Wine | Yes | Yes 43 | http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/KDE:/Community/openSUSE_11.0 | http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/KDE:/Community/openSUSE_11.0 | Yes | Yes 44 | Main Update Repository_2_1_13 | Main Update Repository | Yes | Yes 45 | Packman | Packman | Yes | Yes 46 | Virtualbox | Virtualbox | Yes | Yes 47 | Main Update Repository_2_1_6 | Main Update Repository | Yes | Yes 48 | FLDIGI | FLDIGI | Yes | Yes 49 | Multilingual | Multilingual | Yes | Yes 50 | Main Repository (NON-OSS) | Main Repository (NON-OSS) | Yes | Yes 51 | Main Update Repository_2_1_9 | Main Update Repository | Yes | Yes 52 | Main Update Repository_2_1_2 | Main Update Repository | Yes | Yes 53 | http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/11.0/repo/oss/suse | http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/11.0/repo/oss/suse | Yes | Yes 54 | Mozilla | Mozilla | Yes | Yes 55 | Main Update Repository_2_1_7 | Main Update Repository | Yes | Yes 56 | Main Update Repository_2_1_18 | Main Update Repository | Yes | Yes 57 | Main Update Repository_2_1_10 | Main Update Repository | Yes | Yes

and it will provide a list of packages that need to be removed or installed to fix broken dependencies. If you've left the DVD listed as a repository, have it install all the required dependencies. Just use:

zypper in [list of packages required]

and that will install the packages. You shouldn't need to list all the packages listed by the "zypper ve" command as zypper will add any packages as required to satisfy the dependencies.

Regards, David Bolt

P.S. How do I change one click install from save files to get them installed ? -- Med venlig hilsen / Best regards Erik Jakobsen eja@urbakken.dk Registered Linux user #114875 - http://counter.li.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

¡¡¡¡ARGH!!!! What do you have there? Goodness! :-OOO

What on earth are all those repos? Fifty six, no less!

Why so many "Main Update Repository"?

Purge, purge, purge! Clean that!

But without a running yast2, I feel it's difficult to clean it. If running, what would you suggest to have running? And you are good in expressions I have learned since years :-) -- Med venlig hilsen / Best regards Erik Jakobsen eja@urbakken.dk Registered Linux user #114875 - http://counter.li.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

On Wed December 10 2008 9:01:52 am Carlos E. R. wrote:

On Wednesday, 2008-12-10 at 14:36 +0100, Erik Jakobsen wrote:

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Purge, purge, purge! Clean that!

But without a running yast2, I feel it's difficult to clean it.

Ok, then zypper :-)

Run "zypper help". You'll see:

Repository Handling: repos, lr List all defined repositories. addrepo, ar Add a new repository. removerepo, rr Remove specified repository. <====== renamerepo, nr Rename specified repository. modifyrepo, mr Modify specified repository. refresh, ref Refresh all repositories. clean Clean local caches.

Then you can try "zypper help rr" to find out if there is more help.

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If running, what would you suggest to have running?

You should have only one "Main Update Repository". You can try:

zypper lr -d | less -s

which will tell you also the remote location of the repo.

I would go one step further. Remove ALL REPOS EXCEPT for the main OSS and NON-OSS repos initially. Use: removerepo (rr) [options] Remove repository specified by alias, number or URI. Note you can type 'zypper rr 1 2 3 4 ...' where the numbers are the numbers you obtained with 'zypper lr' and represent all of the installed repos. You can then LATER add back repos such as Packman if you want/need them for anything. Additionally, I would add my install cd as a repo. Usually it is a device: /dev/sr0 though it may be different on your machine. If push comes to shove, you can copy the contents of the CD to a local directory and use the path to that directory as a local repo. From then on, you won't have to have the CD in the drive in order to use it for new programs you may want to add. I do this in case the internet is unavailable and the OSS/NON-OSS repos can't be reached. Once you have your system back to some sort of reasonable operation, you can resume using Yast2 if you prefer a GUI interface. In the meantime, Zypper requires much less overhead and will work even if Yast is not even on your machine as it only needs its' library and rpm (and maybe a couple of other support files) rether than the whole of KDE or GNOME required to support a GUI interface. Richard -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

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If it says it needs something else, add it to the line. It is doable!

Here is the last I have done:

rpm -i yast2* error: Failed dependencies: gnome-main-menu is needed by yast2-control-center-gnome-2.13.3-11.1.i586

Ok, so add gnome-main-menu*rpm

libeel-2.so.2 is needed by yast2-control-center-gnome-2.13.3-11.1.i586

That's libeel*rpm

libgnome-desktop-2.so.2 is needed by

That's libgnome-desktop*rpm

libthinkfinger.so.0 is needed by yast2-fingerprint-reader-2.16.8-6.1.i586

Argh. Probably, you don't really need that one, it comes because we saved time using yast*. Anyway, add libthinkfinger*rpm

yast2-installation >= 2.15.12 is needed by yast2-packager-2.16.53-3.1.i586

That's "yast2-installation...rpm"

libboost_regex.so is needed by yast2-squid-2.16.3-37.1.i586

That's "boost*rpm"

libevms-2.5.so.0 is needed by yast2-storage-evms-2.16.26-0.1.i586 libevms-2.5.so.0(EVMS) is needed by yast2-storage-evms-2.16.26-0.1.i586

That should be "evms...rpm".

yast2-installation is needed by yast2-update-2.16.10-4.1.i586 yast2-security is needed by yast2-users-2.16.33-6.1.i586

yast2-ldap-client >= 2.15.8 is needed by yast2-users-2.16.33-6.1.i586 yast2-devtools is needed by yast2-ycp-ui-bindings-devel-2.16.47-5.1.i586

Those should already have been included.

Where can I find yast2-installation ?

Currently it is yast2-installation-2.16.50-3.1, and it is in the DVD: ./DVD1/suse/noarch/yast2-installation-2.16.50-3.1.noarch.rpm Ah, I see, it is not in the current directory. Those Yast rpms it says it needs are in another directory of the dvd. - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAkk/sTAACgkQtTMYHG2NR9UjEACfZq1IBON9aSg8r3bsZjVh5Hvu wowAn2neoJshZIsuc5CkWphGS08NKiap =9EdW -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Wednesday, 2008-12-10 at 14:41 +0100, Erik Jakobsen wrote:

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rpm -i yast2* error: Failed dependencies: gnome-main-menu is needed by yast2-control-center-gnome-2.13.3-11.1.i586

No, I don't want gnome

Ok, then you have to remove "yast2-control-center-gnome" from the rpm command line. But it's better you install zypper instead, as others suggested, it will be easier. - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAkk/zIsACgkQtTMYHG2NR9V51ACghpchuuoDnGDzMhoVvUcLUrgZ tQEAn3qrhIMZaFCF0EPdYvlCQUPBkPJK =ibTu -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Dave Plater wrote:

Erik Jakobsen wrote:

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Don't worry. It is just a question of patience. First install yast, using rpm commands (put in one line the rpm command with all the needed packages from the dvd), then tell yast to install whatever you think you need. You are not the first one that had to do that.

Perhaps: cd to the directory in the dvd holding the yast packages, and try:

rpm -i yast*

If it says it needs something else, add it to the line. It is doable!

Here is the last I have done:

rpm -i yast2*

As you can see below rpm -i yast2* will cause every yast function including gnome versions which is what you were trying to uninstall when you first had a problem.

Yes you are right.

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error: Failed dependencies: gnome-main-menu is needed by yast2-control-center-gnome-2.13.3-11.1.i586 libeel-2.so.2 is needed by yast2-control-center-gnome-2.13.3-11.1.i586 libgnome-desktop-2.so.2 is needed by yast2-control-center-gnome-2.13.3-11.1.i586 libslab.so.0 is needed by yast2-control-center-gnome-2.13.3-11.1.i586 libthinkfinger.so.0 is needed by yast2-fingerprint-reader-2.16.8-6.1.i586 yast2-installation >= 2.15.12 is needed by yast2-packager-2.16.53-3.1.i586 yast2-inetd is needed by yast2-printer-2.16.32-3.1.i586 libboost_regex.so is needed by yast2-squid-2.16.3-37.1.i586 libevms-2.5.so.0 is needed by yast2-storage-evms-2.16.26-0.1.i586 libevms-2.5.so.0(EVMS) is needed by yast2-storage-evms-2.16.26-0.1.i586 yast2-installation is needed by yast2-update-2.16.10-4.1.i586 yast2-security is needed by yast2-users-2.16.33-6.1.i586 yast2-ldap-client >= 2.15.8 is needed by yast2-users-2.16.33-6.1.i586 yast2-devtools is needed by yast2-ycp-ui-bindings-devel-2.16.47-5.1.i586 dhcppc3:/media/SU1100.001/suse/i586 # rpm -Uvh yast2-fingerprint-reader-2.16.8-6.1.i586.rpm error: Failed dependencies: libthinkfinger.so.0 is needed by yast2-fingerprint-reader-2.16.8-6.1.i586 dhcppc3:/media/SU1100.001/suse/i586 # rpm -Uvh yast2-fingerprint-reader-2.16.8-6.1.i586.rpm libthinkfinger-0.3-11.1.i586.rpm Preparing... ########################################### [100%] 1:libthinkfinger ########################################### [ 50%] 2:yast2-fingerprint-reade########################################### [100%] dhcppc3:/media/SU1100.001/suse/i586 # rpm -Uvh yast2-packager-2.16.53-3.1.i586.rpm error: Failed dependencies: yast2-installation >= 2.15.12 is needed by yast2-packager-2.16.53-3.1.i586

Where can I find yast2-installation ?

Sorry for late reply, the easy way to solve your problem is a combination of the repair system and the installation system after booting the installation DVD. You could also use zypper, which is easier to install by the above method.execute :-

No problem Dave.

rpm -i satsolver-tools*

Gave this: /media/SU1100.001/suse/i586 # rpm -i satsolver-tools* package satsolver-tools-0.9.5-0.1 (which is newer than satsolver-tools-0.9.2-1.1) is already installed file /usr/bin/deltainfoxml2solv from install of satsolver-tools-0.9.2-1.1 conflicts with file from package satsolver-tools-0.9.5-0.1 file /usr/bin/dumpsolv from install of satsolver-tools-0.9.2-1.1 conflicts with file from package satsolver-tools-0.9.5-0.1 file /usr/bin/mergesolv from install of satsolver-tools-0.9.2-1.1 conflicts with file from package satsolver-tools-0.9.5-0.1 file /usr/bin/patchxml2solv from install of satsolver-tools-0.9.2-1.1 conflicts with file from package satsolver-tools-0.9.5-0.1 file /usr/bin/repo2solv.sh from install of satsolver-tools-0.9.2-1.1 conflicts with file from package satsolver-tools-0.9.5-0.1 file /usr/bin/rpmdb2solv from install of satsolver-tools-0.9.2-1.1 conflicts with file from package satsolver-tools-0.9.5-0.1 file /usr/bin/rpmmd2solv from install of satsolver-tools-0.9.2-1.1 conflicts with file from package satsolver-tools-0.9.5-0.1 file /usr/bin/rpms2solv from install of satsolver-tools-0.9.2-1.1 conflicts with file from package satsolver-tools-0.9.5-0.1 file /usr/bin/susetags2solv from install of satsolver-tools-0.9.2-1.1 conflicts with file from package satsolver-tools-0.9.5-0.1 file /usr/bin/updateinfoxml2solv from install of satsolver-tools-0.9.2-1.1 conflicts with file from package satsolver-tools-0.9.5-0.1

rpm -i libzypp*

Gave this: # rpm -i libzypp* error: Failed dependencies: satsolver-tools = 0.9.2 is needed by libzypp-4.26.4-1.1.i586 curl-devel is needed by libzypp-devel-4.26.4-1.1.i586 libsatsolver-devel is needed by libzypp-devel-4.26.4-1.1.i586

rpm -i zypper*

And here the last one: /media/SU1100.001/suse/i586 # rpm -i zypper* package zypper-0.11.10-0.2 (which is newer than zypper-0.11.6-4.1) is already installed file /usr/bin/zypper from install of zypper-0.11.6-4.1 conflicts with file from package zypper-0.11.10-0.2 file /usr/include/zypper/prompt.h from install of zypper-0.11.6-4.1 conflicts with file from package zypper-0.11.10-0.2 file /usr/sbin/zypp-checkpatches from install of zypper-0.11.6-4.1 conflicts with file from package zypper-0.11.10-0.2 file /usr/sbin/zypp-checkpatches-wrapper from install of zypper-0.11.6-4.1 conflicts with file from package zypper-0.11.10-0.2 file /usr/sbin/zypp-refresh from install of zypper-0.11.6-4.1 conflicts with file from package zypper-0.11.10-0.2 file /usr/sbin/zypp-refresh-wrapper from install of zypper-0.11.6-4.1 conflicts with file from package zypper-0.11.10-0.2 file /usr/share/man/man8/zypper.8.gz from install of zypper-0.11.6-4.1 conflicts with file from package zypper-0.11.10-0.2 What do you mean about that ?

If you get any dependency issues you must install the appropriate packages as well. Use the wild card * to prevent having to type in the version tags at the end of the package names. Once you have zypper installed execute :- zypper in yast2-qt-pkg and your yast2 software manager will be restored allowing easy installation of the rest of the missing software. Remember to check the installation summary to see what is being removed and installed and that there are some software packages that use gnome libraries so if you remove the library the package will be removed also. It is possible to have a system with almost no gnome though. Hope this fixes your problem. Regards Dave P

-- Med venlig hilsen / Best regards Erik Jakobsen eja@urbakken.dk Registered Linux user #114875 - http://counter.li.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Carlos E. R. wrote:

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rpm -i satsolver-tools*

Gave this:

/media/SU1100.001/suse/i586 # rpm -i satsolver-tools* package satsolver-tools-0.9.5-0.1 (which is newer than satsolver-tools-0.9.2-1.1) is already installed file /usr/bin/deltainfoxml2solv from install of satsolver-tools-0.9.2-1.1 conflicts with file from package satsolver-tools-0.9.5-0.1

The current version of satsolver-tools is 0.9.5-0.1, and if I read it correctly, it is already installed, so you don't have to install it again.

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rpm -i libzypp*

Gave this:

# rpm -i libzypp* error: Failed dependencies: satsolver-tools = 0.9.2 is needed by libzypp-4.26.4-1.1.i586

Ah... ok, then.

rpm -q satsolver-tools

if you have 0.9.5, you could then remove 0.9.5 and install 0.9.2.

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curl-devel is needed by libzypp-devel-4.26.4-1.1.i586 libsatsolver-devel is needed by libzypp-devel-4.26.4-1.1.i586

Weird it needs devel libraries. So, install them...

S | Name | Summary | Type - --+--------------------+----------------------------------------------+--------

i | libcurl-devel | A Tool for Transferring Data from URLs | package | libflickcurl-devel | C Library API to the Flickr Web Service | package | libsatsolver-devel | A new approach to package dependency solving | package

libcurl-devel and libsatsolver-devel.

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rpm -i zypper*

And here the last one:

No, you need to install first the previous rpms for this to work.

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/media/SU1100.001/suse/i586 # rpm -i zypper* package zypper-0.11.10-0.2 (which is newer than zypper-0.11.6-4.1) is already installed

Hey, that means you already have zypper installed. Or partially installed.

Thanks again Carlos. I will have a look at it in the coming days. -- Med venlig hilsen / Best regards Erik Jakobsen eja@urbakken.dk Registered Linux user #114875 - http://counter.li.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Erik Jakobsen wrote:

Carlos E. R. wrote:

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On Wednesday, 2008-12-10 at 14:56 +0100, Erik Jakobsen wrote:

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rpm -i satsolver-tools*

Gave this:

/media/SU1100.001/suse/i586 # rpm -i satsolver-tools* package satsolver-tools-0.9.5-0.1 (which is newer than satsolver-tools-0.9.2-1.1) is already installed file /usr/bin/deltainfoxml2solv from install of satsolver-tools-0.9.2-1.1 conflicts with file from package satsolver-tools-0.9.5-0.1

The current version of satsolver-tools is 0.9.5-0.1, and if I read it correctly, it is already installed, so you don't have to install it again.

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rpm -i libzypp*

Gave this:

# rpm -i libzypp* error: Failed dependencies: satsolver-tools = 0.9.2 is needed by libzypp-4.26.4-1.1.i586

Ah... ok, then.

rpm -q satsolver-tools

if you have 0.9.5, you could then remove 0.9.5 and install 0.9.2.

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curl-devel is needed by libzypp-devel-4.26.4-1.1.i586 libsatsolver-devel is needed by libzypp-devel-4.26.4-1.1.i586

Weird it needs devel libraries. So, install them...

S | Name | Summary | Type - --+--------------------+----------------------------------------------+--------

i | libcurl-devel | A Tool for Transferring Data from URLs | package | libflickcurl-devel | C Library API to the Flickr Web Service | package | libsatsolver-devel | A new approach to package dependency solving | package

libcurl-devel and libsatsolver-devel.

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rpm -i zypper*

And here the last one:

No, you need to install first the previous rpms for this to work.

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/media/SU1100.001/suse/i586 # rpm -i zypper* package zypper-0.11.10-0.2 (which is newer than zypper-0.11.6-4.1) is already installed

Hey, that means you already have zypper installed. Or partially installed.

-- Cheers, Carlos E. R.

dhcppc3:~ # cd /media/SU1100.001/suse/i586/

dhcppc3:/media/SU1100.001/suse/i586 # rpm -i satsolver-tools*

package satsolver-tools-0.9.4-0.1 (which is newer than satsolver-tools-0.9.2-1.1) is already installed file /usr/bin/deltainfoxml2solv from install of satsolver-tools-0.9.2-1.1 conflicts with file from package satsolver-tools-0.9.4-0.1 file /usr/bin/dumpsolv from install of satsolver-tools-0.9.2-1.1 conflicts with file from package satsolver-tools-0.9.4-0.1 file /usr/bin/mergesolv from install of satsolver-tools-0.9.2-1.1 conflicts with file from package satsolver-tools-0.9.4-0.1 file /usr/bin/patchxml2solv from install of satsolver-tools-0.9.2-1.1 conflicts with file from package satsolver-tools-0.9.4-0.1 file /usr/bin/repo2solv.sh from install of satsolver-tools-0.9.2-1.1 conflicts with file from package satsolver-tools-0.9.4-0.1 file /usr/bin/rpmdb2solv from install of satsolver-tools-0.9.2-1.1 conflicts with file from package satsolver-tools-0.9.4-0.1 file /usr/bin/rpmmd2solv from install of satsolver-tools-0.9.2-1.1 conflicts with file from package satsolver-tools-0.9.4-0.1 file /usr/bin/rpms2solv from install of satsolver-tools-0.9.2-1.1 conflicts with file from package satsolver-tools-0.9.4-0.1 file /usr/bin/susetags2solv from install of satsolver-tools-0.9.2-1.1 conflicts with file from package satsolver-tools-0.9.4-0.1 file /usr/bin/updateinfoxml2solv from install of satsolver-tools-0.9.2-1.1 conflicts with file from package satsolver-tools-0.9.4-0.1

dhcppc3:/media/SU1100.001/suse/i586 # rpm -i libzypp*

error: Failed dependencies: satsolver-tools = 0.9.2 is needed by libzypp-4.26.4-1.1.i586 dhcppc3:/media/SU1100.001/suse/i586 # rpm -q libcurl-devel libcurl-devel-7.18.1-18.1 dhcppc3:/media/SU1100.001/suse/i586 # rpm -q libsatsolver-devel libsatsolver-devel-0.9.4-0.1 dhcppc3:/media/SU1100.001/suse/i586 # rpm -i zypper error: open of zypper failed: No such file or directory

dhcppc3:/media/SU1100.001/suse/i586 # rpm -q zypper zypper-0.11.6-4.1 dhcppc3:/media/SU1100.001/suse/i586 #

Hi Carlos.

What do think about this ?.

I tried to install yast2 with zypper, but after I only get the frame or what its called from the yast2. It does not contain any text but the Help and Ok.

Also if I open for instance Thunderbird and after a termina, and will return to Thunderbird, then Thunderbird has gone !

Erik

Try installing ncurses (command line yast) zypper in yast2-ncurses-pkg Then start it with yast2 --ncurses sw_single Regards Dave P -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Carlos E. R. wrote:

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Hey, that means you already have zypper installed. Or partially installed.

dhcppc3:~ # cd /media/SU1100.001/suse/i586/

dhcppc3:/media/SU1100.001/suse/i586 # rpm -i satsolver-tools*

package satsolver-tools-0.9.4-0.1 (which is newer than satsolver-tools-0.9.2-1.1) is already installed

Don't bother about those. Does zypper run? then forget that.

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dhcppc3:/media/SU1100.001/suse/i586 # rpm -i libzypp*

dhcppc3:/media/SU1100.001/suse/i586 # rpm -q zypper zypper-0.11.6-4.1 dhcppc3:/media/SU1100.001/suse/i586 #

Good.

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Hi Carlos.

What do think about this ?.

I tried to install yast2 with zypper, but after I only get the frame or what its called from the yast2. It does not contain any text but the

First, use zypper to trim your huge list of repositories to something manageable: probably only the OSS, Non-OSS, and Main update repos. Three. use "zypper removerepo"

Then, run "zypper verify" and "zypper update".

When that's is done, "zypper patterns" and install the yast patterns you need or want.

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Help and Ok.

Also if I open for instance Thunderbird and after a termina, and will return to Thunderbird, then Thunderbird has gone !

Later :-)

Here is what I have started with: dhcppc3:/media/SU1100.001/suse/i586 # zypper verify Reading installed packages... Dependencies of all installed packages are satisfied. dhcppc3:/media/SU1100.001/suse/i586 # zypper lr # | Alias | Name | Enabled | Refresh --+-------------------------------+------------------------+---------+-------- 1 | Main Update Repository_2_1_16 | Main Update Repository | Yes | Yes 2 | repo-non-oss | openSUSE-11.0-Non-Oss | Yes | No 3 | Hamradio | Hamradio | Yes | Yes 4 | repo-oss | openSUSE-11.0-Oss | Yes | No 5 | FLDIGI | FLDIGI | Yes | Yes dhcppc3:/media/SU1100.001/suse/i586 # zypper verify Reading installed packages... Dependencies of all installed packages are satisfied. dhcppc3:/media/SU1100.001/suse/i586 # zypper update Reading installed packages... The following NEW patches are going to be installed: PackageKit zypper libzypp The following package is going to be REMOVED: zypper After the operation, 2.6 M will be freed. Continue? [YES/no]: I need the Hamradio and FLDIGI repos. What do you mean about my repos now ?. As you can see, there is no probs. running zypper verify. But zypper update wants to remove zypper. How can I avoid this ? /Erik -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Carlos E. R. wrote:

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Here is what I have started with:

dhcppc3:/media/SU1100.001/suse/i586 # zypper verify Reading installed packages... Dependencies of all installed packages are satisfied.

Good!

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dhcppc3:/media/SU1100.001/suse/i586 # zypper lr # | Alias | Name | Enabled | Refresh --+-------------------------------+------------------------+---------+--------

1 | Main Update Repository_2_1_16 | Main Update Repository | Yes | Yes 2 | repo-non-oss | openSUSE-11.0-Non-Oss | Yes | No 3 | Hamradio | Hamradio | Yes | Yes 4 | repo-oss | openSUSE-11.0-Oss | Yes | No 5 | FLDIGI | FLDIGI | Yes | Yes

Right, that looks good too.

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dhcppc3:/media/SU1100.001/suse/i586 # zypper verify Reading installed packages... Dependencies of all installed packages are satisfied.

Good.

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dhcppc3:/media/SU1100.001/suse/i586 # zypper update Reading installed packages...

The following NEW patches are going to be installed: PackageKit zypper libzypp

The following package is going to be REMOVED: zypper

Notice that it is going to install zypper and remove zypper. I understand it simply means it is going to update zypper. Sometimes that program is quite confusing.

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After the operation, 2.6 M will be freed. Continue? [YES/no]:

I need the Hamradio and FLDIGI repos. What do you mean about my repos now ?.

They are ok.

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As you can see, there is no probs. running zypper verify.

But zypper update wants to remove zypper.

How can I avoid this ?

I believe it is going to update it. You can try again adding verbose and dry run:

zypper --verbose update --dry-run

On dry run mode you can safely accept anything, because it will not do any changes.

Thanks for the commnents Carlos. I have the dry result here: # zypper --verbose update --dry-run Verbosity: 1 Initializing Target Checking whether to refresh metadata for Main Update Repository Downloading: repomd.xml [done] Checking whether to refresh metadata for Hamradio Downloading: repomd.xml [done] Downloading: repomd.xml [done] Downloading: repomd.xml.asc [done] Downloading: repomd.xml.key [done] Downloading: repomd.xml [done] Downloading: primary.xml.gz [done] Downloading repository 'Hamradio' metadata [done] Building repository 'Hamradio' cache [done] Checking whether to refresh metadata for FLDIGI Downloading: repomd.xml [done] Reading installed packages... Force resolution: No Resolving dependencies... Force resolution: No Resolving dependencies... The following NEW patches are going to be installed: PackageKit-139.noarch (Main Update Repository, maint-coord@suse.de) zypper-114.noarch (Main Update Repository, maint-coord@suse.de) yast2-ncurses-pkg-83.noarch (Main Update Repository, maint-coord@suse.de) libzypp-53.noarch (Main Update Repository, maint-coord@suse.de) The following packages are going to be REMOVED: zypper-0.11.6-4.1.i586 (@System, SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, Nuernberg, Germany) yast2-ncurses-pkg-2.16.13-4.1.i586 (@System, SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, Nuernberg, Germany) After the operation, 3.2 M will be freed. Continue? [YES/no]: YES committing (dry run) Removing yast2-ncurses-pkg-2.16.13-4.1 [done] Removing zypper-0.11.6-4.1 [done] committing (dry run) CommitResult 4 (errors 0, remaining 0, srcremaining 0) dhcppc3:/media/SU1100.001/suse/i586 # rpm -q zypper zypper-0.11.6-4.1 And I can tell you, it doens't lie about the removing of zypper, as I tried it before your last reply ;-) Such a culprit. But then the prob. is how to get zypper to run update, and really do it ? -- Med venlig hilsen / Best regards Erik Jakobsen eja@urbakken.dk Registered Linux user #114875 - http://counter.li.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Carlos E. R. wrote:

I /think/ it is going to remove one and install another. But I'm not fully sure... so lets wait till somebody else more familiar with zypper chimes in.

Me, I would go ahead, I could solve problems easily (I hope). But knowing the problems you have been through... you'd better wait.

- -- Cheers, Carlos E. R.

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I cannot see, that it install another, but rpm -q tells me, that zypper has gone after a zypper update. Yes let's wait and see if somebody has the wise clue. Yes Carlos, I'm indeed not as experinced as you are. Oh btw you are welcome to look into my computer -griin-. -- Med venlig hilsen / Best regards Erik Jakobsen eja@urbakken.dk Registered Linux user #114875 - http://counter.li.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Carlos E. R. wrote:

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I cannot see, that it install another, but rpm -q tells me, that zypper has gone after a zypper update.

Calm down calm down :-) I told you in another mail, that before I sent you the info on zypper update I have just let it run, and then zypper got wiped !!. After that I installed zypper again, and the reports was made with this zypper :-) I think this clarifies the quieries below this :-). Does it ?.

Huh?

In what you posted before, that's impossible. You run zypper in dry-run mode, which means do not modify anything. And then, you did:

] dhcppc3:/media/SU1100.001/suse/i586 # rpm -q zypper ] zypper-0.11.6-4.1

so zypper was there. Are you telling me that you removed the "--dry-run", and went ahead without waiting?

About the removing and installing, notice what it says:

]The following NEW patches are going to be installed: ] PackageKit-139.noarch (Main Update Repository, maint-coord@suse.de) ] zypper-114.noarch (Main Update Repository, maint-coord@suse.de) ] yast2-ncurses-pkg-83.noarch (Main Update Repository, maint-coord@suse.de) ] libzypp-53.noarch (Main Update Repository, maint-coord@suse.de)

and later:

]The following packages are going to be REMOVED: ] zypper-0.11.6-4.1.i586 (@System, SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, Nuernberg, Germany) ] yast2-ncurses-pkg-2.16.13-4.1.i586 (@System, SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, Nuernberg, Germany)

Both paragraphs contradict one another, but I understand it means it is going to do both things, which should result into an upgrade.

This is what I think it will do. I'm not fully sure, because your problems make me a bit paranoid.

No it was away. I ran zypper and had the info, that it was not installed. Then I did install it again.

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Yes let's wait and see if somebody has the wise clue.

Right.

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Yes Carlos, I'm indeed not as experinced as you are.

Oh btw you are welcome to look into my computer -griin-.

:-)

- -- Cheers, Carlos E. R.

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Carlos E. R. wrote:

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Carlos E. R. wrote:

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On Thursday, 2008-12-11 at 14:53 +0100, Erik Jakobsen wrote:

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I cannot see, that it install another, but rpm -q tells me, that zypper > has gone after a zypper update.

Calm down calm down :-)

I told you in another mail, that before I sent you the info on zypper update I have just let it run, and then zypper got wiped !!. After that I installed zypper again, and the reports was made with this zypper :-) I think this clarifies the quieries below this :-). Does it ?.

Ah... I guess... I'll have to drink a tila tissana (Tilia americana, http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tila) to calm me down :-)

I should have been there with wine and beers for you to watch you really calm down :-)

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Both paragraphs contradict one another, but I understand it means it is going to do both things, which should result into an upgrade.

This is what I think it will do. I'm not fully sure, because your problems make me a bit paranoid.

No it was away. I ran zypper and had the info, that it was not installed. Then I did install it again.

But was that now, or before?

That was before you gave me the dry advice.

I don't understand a request to update would remove it. I could understand it if it were to solve dependencies of some other thing you removed, but the verify run said it was correct.

Nor do I, who's the culprit ?

You could try:

zypper install -t pattern x11_yast yast2_basis kde3_yast

to install YaST. I'm not sure if you can add those three in a single go, though. If unsure, you can add --dry-run

This is the result: # zypper install -t pattern x11_yast yast2_basis kde3_yast --dry-run Reading installed packages... No valid arguments specified. -- Med venlig hilsen / Best regards Erik Jakobsen eja@urbakken.dk Registered Linux user #114875 - http://counter.li.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Thursday, 2008-12-11 at 17:53 +0100, Erik Jakobsen wrote: ...

Package yast2-sysconfig-2.16.0-28.1 fails integrity check. Do you want to retry? Abort, retry, ignore? [A/r/i]: A

No, retry. It is usually a download error. If it fails again, ignore. I'm assuming that "ignore" will skip this package and install the rest... :-? - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAklBdlIACgkQtTMYHG2NR9WcRQCfWoJhJt1AsdMo6t9ahscuDJ8W KVAAnjAHPBUfvROJm0Aa6Rj4QWrRMQ2G =ycdG -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Carlos E. R. wrote:

On Thursday, 2008-12-11 at 17:53 +0100, Erik Jakobsen wrote:

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Package yast2-sysconfig-2.16.0-28.1 fails integrity check. Do you want to retry? Abort, retry, ignore? [A/r/i]: A

No, retry. It is usually a download error. If it fails again, ignore.

I'm assuming that "ignore" will skip this package and install the rest... :-?

-- Cheers, Carlos E. R.

I found a bug or whatever it is. If I want to minimize a window, it's not being placed on the panel. What could be reason(s)? /Erik -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Carlos E. R. wrote:

Ah... I guess... I'll have to drink a tila tissana (Tilia americana, http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tila) to calm me down :-)

Sort of Herbal ? -- Med venlig hilsen / Best regards Erik Jakobsen eja@urbakken.dk Registered Linux user #114875 - http://counter.li.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Carlos E. R. wrote:

On Thursday, 2008-12-11 at 19:43 +0100, Erik Jakobsen wrote:

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Carlos E. R. wrote:

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Ah... I guess... I'll have to drink a tila tissana (Tilia americana, http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tila) to calm me down :-)

Sort of Herbal ?

Yes. Leaves of a tree, I think, that have a relaxing effect.

Unfortunately, the link to the wikipedia web page in English that explained it is bad, is something very different.

-- Cheers, Carlos E. R.

Ok, I got Google translate to work for me. And you indeed need to relax after such a day with a Viking from the Northern :-) Here I sometimes cook beetroot i 3 litres of water. Then I drink the water. Not tasting good, but should be good for the kidneys :-) /Erik -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Hi. I booted on the DVD, and made somehting, that has given me yast back again. Unfortunately yast lacks something. I have uploaded some screenshots, that shows my yast setup now. Can anybody see, what I'm lacking ?. Can we in a way compare what you have choosen in your yast setup? Here the links to the 4 screenshots: http://picpaste.com/yast1.jpg http://picpaste.com/yast2.jpg http://picpaste.com/yast3.jpg http://picpaste.com/yast4.jpg -- Med venlig hilsen / Best regards Erik Jakobsen eja@urbakken.dk Registered Linux user #114875 - http://counter.li.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Thursday, 2008-12-11 at 21:10 +0100, Erik Jakobsen wrote:

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Can anybody see, what I'm lacking ?.

Some yast packages, I suppose.

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http: //picpaste.com/yast1.jpg

Sorry for replying to my own query.

But I found what I was searching for in the yast=>software

:-(

Start that module: in the "extras" menu there is a "verify system" entry. Try it. - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAklBfEwACgkQtTMYHG2NR9WW3gCePoZfpxP0mI4ij1B2xjC9Gs6K SmEAnide1p4Txme0IY6cLx78JQUEMa/s =n23a -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Thursday, 2008-12-11 at 21:58 +0100, Erik Jakobsen wrote:

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But I found what I was searching for in the yast=>software

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:-(

Start that module: in the "extras" menu there is a "verify system" entry. Try it.

I'm not sure what you tell me ? module: ? "etras" ?

Sorry. Module "yast=>software". There, menu "extras", on the top. Then, select "verify system". - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAklBf+MACgkQtTMYHG2NR9XG/ACeNAAkWyioh4M5zqVq9qXxgBjP AvMAn13TIlTBqyJGIR1LS3l0dEZPUy7h =VBjb -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

On Thu, 11 Dec 2008, Erik Jakobsen wrote:-

Carlos E. R. wrote:

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Module "yast=>software". There, menu "extras", on the top. Then, select "verify system".

Ok now I got it. "System dpendencies verify ok"

In that case, what you need to do is reinstall the missing packages. The easiest way is to make sure that you have the patterns "YaST System Administration" and "YaST Installation Packages" installed. Open YaST -> Software -> Software Management and then make sure those two patterns are enabled. Also, scroll down the packages listed and make sure that you haven't marked any as taboo, otherwise they will not be re-installed. Looking at the four pictures posted, you have a load of modules missing. The above should get most/all of them back but, if it doesn't, change the filter to "search", and make sure you're only "Name" is checked. Then enter "YaST" in the search box. This should produce a list of all the YaST modules. Go through the list in the package management window, read the description for each module, and select those that you want to include. As a starter, here's the list of (almost all) the YaST modules I have installed: yast2-add-on yast2-apparmor yast2-backup yast2-bootloader yast2-control-center yast2-control-center-qt yast2-country yast2-country-data yast2-firewall yast2-hardware-detection yast2-inetd yast2-installation yast2-instserver yast2-irda yast2-iscsi-client yast2-kerberos-client yast2-ldap yast2-ldap-client yast2-libyui yast2-mail yast2-metapackage-handler yast2-mouse yast2-ncurses yast2-ncurses-pkg yast2-network yast2-nfs-client yast2-nfs-common yast2-nis-client yast2-ntp-client yast2-online-update yast2-online-update-frontend yast2-packager yast2-pam yast2-perl-bindings yast2-phone-services yast2-pkg-bindings yast2-printer yast2-profile-manager yast2-qt yast2-qt-pkg yast2-registration yast2-repair yast2-restore yast2-runlevel yast2-samba-client yast2-scanner yast2-schema yast2-security yast2-slp yast2-sound yast2-storage yast2-storage-lib yast2-sudo yast2-support yast2-sysconfig yast2-theme-openSUSE yast2-trans-en_GB yast2-trans-stats yast2-transfer yast2-tune yast2-tv yast2-update yast2-users yast2-vm yast2-x11 yast2-xml yast2-ycp-ui-bindings Regards, David Bolt -- Team Acorn: http://www.distributed.net/ OGR-NG @ ~100Mnodes RC5-72 @ ~1Mkeys/s SUSE 10.1 32 | | openSUSE 10.3 32b | openSUSE 11.0 32b | openSUSE 10.2 64b | openSUSE 10.3 64b | openSUSE 11.0 64b RISC OS 3.6 | TOS 4.02 | openSUSE 10.3 PPC | RISC OS 3.11 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Friday, 2008-12-12 at 07:02 +0100, Erik Jakobsen wrote:

I still get the information above. And I have the patterns you mention installed. But there is a problem with reference to the attachment to this mail.

I assume you see that when trying to install that package. The usually solution is retry. If that fails, the package is bad in the repo you are using or being redirected to. Try another day, or try another repo. It would have to be reported on a bugzilla, I guess.

How do you make the yast content list above ?

rpm -qa | grep -i yast for instance. - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAklFB8QACgkQtTMYHG2NR9XtxgCff7K1zZstiH1sFXhlBg1DxQ0c HewAoJajiAHBS74GqWghBl9cpnq2HLWT =toNk -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Saturday, 2008-12-13 at 08:38 +0100, Erik Jakobsen wrote:

Hi all that have helped me to get up 11.0 to run again, I want to express my thanks to you. Was so kind of you all to help.

Welcome! I like interesting problems. Next time it willbe easier for you :-)

With that I also want to pass all the best for the season greatings, and a Happy New Yer 2009

Sincerelly

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* Carlos E. R. [12-11-08 10:03]:

On Thursday, 2008-12-11 at 14:53 +0100, Erik Jakobsen wrote:

In what you posted before, that's impossible. You run zypper in dry-run mode, which means do not modify anything. And then, you did:

] dhcppc3:/media/SU1100.001/suse/i586 # rpm -q zypper ] zypper-0.11.6-4.1

so zypper was there. Are you telling me that you removed the "--dry-run", and went ahead without waiting?

About the removing and installing, notice what it says:

]The following NEW patches are going to be installed: ] PackageKit-139.noarch (Main Update Repository, maint-coord@suse.de) ] zypper-114.noarch (Main Update Repository, maint-coord@suse.de) ] yast2-ncurses-pkg-83.noarch (Main Update Repository, maint-coord@suse.de) ] libzypp-53.noarch (Main Update Repository, maint-coord@suse.de)

and later:

]The following packages are going to be REMOVED: ] zypper-0.11.6-4.1.i586 (@System, SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, Nuernberg, Germany) ] yast2-ncurses-pkg-2.16.13-4.1.i586 (@System, SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, Nuernberg, Germany)

Both paragraphs contradict one another, but I understand it means it is going to do both things, which should result into an upgrade.

This is what I think it will do. I'm not fully sure, because your problems make me a bit paranoid.

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Yes let's wait and see if somebody has the wise clue.

Right.

Work-a-round/possible-solution: download the zypper-114.noarch to disk, perform the above as previous detailed. If zypper is *not* replaced, rpm -i ./zypper-114.noarch*** and you are back in business. probably a good idea to include the yast2-ncurses package also, just in case, to provide the same recovery. -- Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA HOG # US1244711 http://wahoo.no-ip.org Photo Album: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/gallery2 Registered Linux User #207535 @ http://counter.li.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

* Erik Jakobsen [12-11-08 10:30]:

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] zypper-114.noarch (Main Update Repository, maint-coord@suse.de)

Hello Patrick. Thanks for joining in here and for give me your help. From where can I download zypper-114.noarch ?

According to the information *you* posted previous which I quoted, it is in "Main Update Repository", but I don't see it there (http://software.opensuse.org/search). Exp: When you are going to perform an operation that causes you doubts, download the packages to disk that are affected so you have an avenue for recovery w/o much concern. Note: I am still running 10.1 and using SLED repos for maintenance because I have tooooo many personal configurations and server settings that it is a chore to continually update to the newest and bestest. I will install 11.1 in a few days or so as maintaining 10.1 is becoming too much. -- Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA HOG # US1244711 http://wahoo.no-ip.org Photo Album: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/gallery2 Registered Linux User #207535 @ http://counter.li.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Carlos E. R. wrote:

On Thursday, 2008-12-11 at 14:27 +0100, Erik Jakobsen wrote:

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Thanks for the commnents Carlos. I have the dry result here:

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# zypper --verbose update --dry-run

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Verbosity: 1 ... Resolving dependencies...

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The following NEW patches are going to be installed: PackageKit-139.noarch (Main Update Repository, maint-coord@suse.de) zypper-114.noarch (Main Update Repository, maint-coord@suse.de) yast2-ncurses-pkg-83.noarch (Main Update Repository, maint-coord@suse.de) libzypp-53.noarch (Main Update Repository, maint-coord@suse.de)

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The following packages are going to be REMOVED: zypper-0.11.6-4.1.i586 (@System, SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, Nuernberg, Germany) yast2-ncurses-pkg-2.16.13-4.1.i586 (@System, SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, Nuernberg, Germany)

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After the operation, 3.2 M will be freed.

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Continue? [YES/no]: YES committing (dry run)

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Removing yast2-ncurses-pkg-2.16.13-4.1 [done] Removing zypper-0.11.6-4.1 [done] committing (dry run) CommitResult 4 (errors 0, remaining 0, srcremaining 0)

I /think/ it is going to remove one and install another. But I'm not fully sure... so lets wait till somebody else more familiar with zypper chimes in.

Me, I would go ahead, I could solve problems easily (I hope). But knowing the problems you have been through... you'd better wait.

-- Cheers, Carlos E. R.

Those update patches look very suspicious I would suggest disabling the update repo until the system is stable and maybe try a zypper -v dup -D and post the output. Regards Dave -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Erik Jakobsen wrote:

Dave Plater wrote:

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Those update patches look very suspicious I would suggest disabling the update repo until the system is stable and maybe try a zypper -v dup -D and post the output. Regards Dave

Thanks again Dave.

Do you mean disabling -change from "yes" to "no" or removing the repos ?

No when you are in the installation system on the DVD don't allow any additional repositories and use the remove unsupported packages option. Regards Dave P -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Thursday, 2008-12-11 at 15:54 +0200, Dave Plater wrote:

Those update patches look very suspicious I would suggest disabling the update repo until the system is stable and maybe try a zypper -v dup -D and post the output.

The repos can be checked. Erik, try: zypper lr -d > somefile.txt and then attach that 'somefile.txt' here. - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAklBKXYACgkQtTMYHG2NR9VNsgCgljAO2jq05xCMnP2upDl5/Ue1 ps0An3hf6m3x27XORmUxrKrGxhoMvc9v =KQL1 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Erik Jakobsen wrote:

Carlos E. R. wrote:

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On Thursday, 2008-12-11 at 15:54 +0200, Dave Plater wrote:

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Those update patches look very suspicious I would suggest disabling the update repo until the system is stable and maybe try a zypper -v dup -D and post the output.

The repos can be checked. Erik, try:

zypper lr -d > somefile.txt

and then attach that 'somefile.txt' here.

- -- Cheers, Carlos E. R.

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Here the output of zypper lr -d

[?1034h# | Alias | Name | Enabled | Refresh | Priority | Type | URI --+-------------------------------+------------------------+---------+---------+----------+--------+----------------------------------------------------------------------

1 | Main Update Repository_2_1_16 | Main Update Repository | No | Yes | 99 | rpm-md | http://download.opensuse.org/update/11.0/ 2 | repo-non-oss | openSUSE-11.0-Non-Oss | No | No | 120 | yast2 | http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/11.0/repo/non-oss/ 3 | openSUSE-DVD 11.0 | openSUSE-DVD 11.0 | Yes | No | 99 | yast2 | cd:///?devices=/dev/sr1,/dev/sr0 4 | Hamradio | Hamradio | Yes | Yes | 99 | rpm-md | http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/hamradio/openSUSE_11.0 5 | repo-oss | openSUSE-11.0-Oss | No | No | 120 | yast2 | http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/11.0/repo/oss/ 6 | FLDIGI | FLDIGI | No | Yes | 99 | rpm-md | http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/dl8fcl/openSUSE_11.0/

You could fix your system with the command :- zypper dup -r openSUSE-DVD 11.0 but first check what will be removed. Regards Dave P -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Carlos E. R. wrote:

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On Thursday, 2008-12-11 at 16:16 +0100, Erik Jakobsen wrote:

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Here the output of zypper lr -d

[?1034h# | Alias | Name | Enabled | Refresh | Priority | Type | URI --+-------------------------------+------------------------+---------+---------+----------+--------+----------------------------------------------------------------------

1 | Main Update Repository_2_1_16 | Main Update Repository | No | Yes | 99 | rpm-md | http://download.opensuse.org/update/11.0/

Ok...

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2 | repo-non-oss | openSUSE-11.0-Non-Oss | No | No | 120 | yast2 | http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/11.0/repo/non-oss/ 3 | openSUSE-DVD 11.0 | openSUSE-DVD 11.0 | Yes | No | 99 | yast2 | cd:///?devices=/dev/sr1,/dev/sr0 4 | Hamradio | Hamradio | Yes | Yes | 99 | rpm-md | http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/hamradio/openSUSE_11.0 5 | repo-oss | openSUSE-11.0-Oss | No | No | 120 | yast2 | http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/11.0/repo/oss/ 6 | FLDIGI | FLDIGI | No | Yes | 99 | rpm-md | http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/dl8fcl/openSUSE_11.0/

Seems ok to me.

You could do:

zypper mr 2 -p 110 zypper mr 5 -p 110

but that is of no consequence, I think.

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# zypper mr 2 -p 110 Too many arguments. Usage: modifyrepo (mr) <options> modifyrepo (mr) <options> <--all|--remote|--local|--medium-type> Modify properties of repositories specified by alias, number or URI or by the '--all, --remote, --local, --medium-type' aggregate options. Command options: -d, --disable Disable the repository (but don't remove it). -e, --enable Enable a disabled repository. -r, --refresh Enable auto-refresh of the repository. -R, --no-refresh Disable auto-refresh of the repository. -n, --name Set a descriptive name for the repository. -p, --priority <1-99> Set priority of the repository. -k, --keep-packages Enable RPM files caching. -K, --no-keep-packages Disable RPM files caching. -a, --all Apply changes to all repositories. -l, --local Apply changes to all local repositories. -t, --remote Apply changes to all remote repositories. -m, --medium-type <type> Apply changes to repositories of specified type. dhcppc3:/media/SU1100.001/suse/i586 # zypper mr 5 -p 110 Too many arguments. Usage: modifyrepo (mr) <options> modifyrepo (mr) <options> <--all|--remote|--local|--medium-type> Modify properties of repositories specified by alias, number or URI or by the '--all, --remote, --local, --medium-type' aggregate options. Command options: -d, --disable Disable the repository (but don't remove it). -e, --enable Enable a disabled repository. -r, --refresh Enable auto-refresh of the repository. -R, --no-refresh Disable auto-refresh of the repository. -n, --name Set a descriptive name for the repository. -p, --priority <1-99> Set priority of the repository. -k, --keep-packages Enable RPM files caching. -K, --no-keep-packages Disable RPM files caching. -a, --all Apply changes to all repositories. -l, --local Apply changes to all local repositories. -t, --remote Apply changes to all remote repositories. -m, --medium-type <type> Apply changes to repositories of specified type. -- Med venlig hilsen / Best regards Erik Jakobsen eja@urbakken.dk Registered Linux user #114875 - http://counter.li.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Nkoli wrote:

Erik,

Have you tried using the Update feature on the install disc? There is an option to remove unsupported packages, which will get you back to the state of a new install, but without overwriting your files. Also, if you do a new installation from the disc without formatting your drives, you'll be able to boot. The only downside I've found with doing that is that yast may be confused about whether some apps are installed, but everything works fine.

Nkoli

Nkoli... If you only refer to the boot problem I had, I can tell you, that I'm able to boot now. But no, I hvae never used, nor been aware that there is that option you mention. -- Med venlig hilsen / Best regards Erik Jakobsen eja@urbakken.dk Registered Linux user #114875 - http://counter.li.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Dave Plater wrote:

Nkoli wrote:

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Erik,

Have you tried using the Update feature on the install disc? There is an option to remove unsupported packages, which will get you back to the state of a new install, but without overwriting your files. Also, if you do a new installation from the disc without formatting your drives, you'll be able to boot. The only downside I've found with doing that is that yast may be confused about whether some apps are installed, but everything works fine.

Nkoli

And don't select any additional repositories. Regards Dave P

And is it from the DVD's update or install option?. What do I have to choose ? -- Med venlig hilsen / Best regards Erik Jakobsen eja@urbakken.dk Registered Linux user #114875 - http://counter.li.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Carlos E. R. wrote:

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Also if I open for instance Thunderbird and after a termina, and will return to Thunderbird, then Thunderbird has gone !

Later :-)

Time has made it: # zypper update Reading installed packages... Nothing to do. Is what I get now. Are there ghosts here ? /Erik -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org