JB2 wrote:

On 23 August 09, Dotan Cohen wrote:

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The day when KDE 3 will no longer be viable is getting closer every day. Please tell me what problems you are having with KDE 4.3 so that we can get them fixed. KDE 3 is great because it is mature, configurable, and feature-laden without being bloated. I do not want to see that go to waste! It is the KDE 3 holdouts who have the attention to detail to distinguish the "little things" that make KDE 3 so great that are currently lacking in the KDE 4 branch.

Note that KDE 4.3 really solves most of the issues for me and most other people that I deal with. In fact, the features is adds over KDE 3 were enough to get me to switch. So please try KDE 4.3 and _let_me_know_ what does not work for you so that we can file bugs. I want to know about missing features, unintuitiveness, bugs, regressions, anything. You _will_ need to relearn some minor things as KDE 4 is a rewrite of KDE, not a Qt4 port of KDE 3, however let's get the major issues fixed.

Thanks. KDE really needs the picky, stubborn KDE 3 users to push the devs (who might not have the same attention to detail as us) in the right direction. I'm here to bridge the gap between us (the users) and the devs.

I'd love to help, but a dial-up connection prohibits me from being able to test anything new. If you (or someone) were willing to send a installation DVD of the latest openSUSE, or there was some other easy (and cheap!) way I could get one, I'd be more than willing to test things out and give feedback and such.

your local lug should be able to help you ! -- Hans Krueger hanskrueger007@roadrunner.com registered Linux user 289023 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

I miss the confirm-dialog box on reboot, enumerating grub options.

I have never seen that. Can you send to me a screenshot? Thanks! -- Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com http://gibberish.co.il -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

On Sunday 23 August 2009 18:11:52 Dotan Cohen wrote:

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I miss the confirm-dialog box on reboot, enumerating grub options.

I have never seen that. Can you send to me a screenshot? Thanks!

Permit me if I may... There's a chance that the session options in Configure Desktop are set to not confirm on logout. If ctrl-alt-delete and the Leave start menu options instantly log you out or whatever with no confirmation then check in Personal Settings->Advanced->Session Manager that 'Confirm logout' and 'Offer shutdown options' are checked. Otherwise, it may be that you don't see how to get restart/shutdown options from the new leave popups: http://imagebin.org/60733 This is the restart dialog you get with Leave->Restart from the start menu. Notice the small 'toolbutton' arrow on the Restart button? Click and hold it to expand it: http://imagebin.org/60734 You should now notice this arrow in other places now such as the KMail Check Mail toolbar button. HTH Will -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

There's a chance that the session options in Configure Desktop are set to not confirm on logout.  If ctrl-alt-delete and the Leave start menu options instantly log you out or whatever with no confirmation then check in Personal Settings->Advanced->Session Manager that 'Confirm logout' and 'Offer shutdown options' are checked.

Otherwise, it may be that you don't see how to get restart/shutdown options from the new leave popups:

http://imagebin.org/60733

Sorry, I've just realized. For activate this option, in Systemsettings

Advanced > Login Manager > Shutdown, I changed an option for grub (previously not selected). After logout and relogin, option is available. Fantastic!! -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

On 23 August 09, Hans Krueger wrote:

JB2 wrote:

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On 23 August 09, Dotan Cohen wrote:

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The day when KDE 3 will no longer be viable is getting closer every day. Please tell me what problems you are having with KDE 4.3 so that we can get them fixed. KDE 3 is great because it is mature, configurable, and feature-laden without being bloated. I do not want to see that go to waste! It is the KDE 3 holdouts who have the attention to detail to distinguish the "little things" that make KDE 3 so great that are currently lacking in the KDE 4 branch.

Note that KDE 4.3 really solves most of the issues for me and most other people that I deal with. In fact, the features is adds over KDE 3 were enough to get me to switch. So please try KDE 4.3 and _let_me_know_ what does not work for you so that we can file bugs. I want to know about missing features, unintuitiveness, bugs, regressions, anything. You _will_ need to relearn some minor things as KDE 4 is a rewrite of KDE, not a Qt4 port of KDE 3, however let's get the major issues fixed.

Thanks. KDE really needs the picky, stubborn KDE 3 users to push the devs (who might not have the same attention to detail as us) in the right direction. I'm here to bridge the gap between us (the users) and the devs.

I'd love to help, but a dial-up connection prohibits me from being able to test anything new. If you (or someone) were willing to send a installation DVD of the latest openSUSE, or there was some other easy (and cheap!) way I could get one, I'd be more than willing to test things out and give feedback and such.

your local lug should be able to help you !

Heh heh....I am the local lug. Me, myself and I alone. The next nearest person(s) who use linux at all live 50 miles away IIRR, lol. -- "Politics is the art of looking for trouble, finding it whether it exists or not, diagnosing it incorrectly, and applying the wrong remedy." --British publisher and writer Ernest Benn (1875-1954) Read The Patriot -- It's Right. It's Free. http://patriotpost.us/subscribe.php -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

 I'd love to help, but a dial-up connection prohibits me from being able to test anything new. If you (or someone) were willing to send a installation DVD of the latest openSUSE, or there was some other easy (and cheap!) way I could get one, I'd be more than willing to test things out and give feedback and such.

No problem, just link to the .iso that you want me to burn and send me your address. I'll have it out tomorrow. -- Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com http://gibberish.co.il -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

On Sunday 23 August 2009 11:37:05 am Will Stephenson wrote:

On Sunday 23 August 2009 18:11:14 Dotan Cohen wrote:

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I'd love to help, but a dial-up connection prohibits me from being able to test anything new. If you (or someone) were willing to send a installation DVD of the latest openSUSE, or there was some other easy (and cheap!) way I could get one, I'd be more than willing to test things out and give feedback and such.

No problem, just link to the .iso that you want me to burn and send me your address. I'll have it out tomorrow.

Dotan, you are a bit far away. Postage can make you give up on similar help in the future :-)

This is a really cool thing to do, Dotan.

Since openSUSE doesn't have millionaire cosmonauts behind it, maybe we could set up a 'Users ship openSUSE to users' network where those of us to whom burning a DVD and slapping it in the mail is no big deal can make a difference to those who live out of reach of DSL and magazine coverdisks?

We'd just need a simple broker program that matches up requesters to nearby senders...

WIll

Hi Will, Someone tried to organize such thing using openSUSE wiki, but he didn't found much understanding. I just removed deletion marker. http://en.opensuse.org/OpenSUSE_Free_Media_Persons and my comment, after I removed deletion marker: http://en.opensuse.org/Talk:OpenSUSE_Free_Media_Persons But to prevent complains for different reasons, this discussion can be moved at least to new thread. IMHO, the topic is perfectly valid for general technical help. It answers the question: "How to install openSUSE if I have no fast Internet?" -- Regards, Rajko http://news.opensuse.org/category/people-of-opensuse/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

On Sunday August 23 2009 11:37:05 am Will Stephenson wrote:

Since openSUSE doesn't have millionaire cosmonauts behind it, maybe we could set up a 'Users ship openSUSE to users' network where those of us to whom burning a DVD and slapping it in the mail is no big deal can make a difference to those who live out of reach of DSL and magazine coverdisks?

We'd just need a simple broker program that matches up requesters to nearby senders...

I'd be totally down for this. In fact, I have two new jobs coming up and wouldn't mind occasionally paying the postage required to send overseas. In fact, the US Postal Service gives discount postage when you're sending media, such as books or electronic media like CDs and DVDs. You know, I wonder if that would work with Betamax tapes. :D -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

In principle, I like two things. The first is that Dolphin has the options Send File and Send Link Address, like Konqueror.

Please comment and vote: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=204921

The second is about Konqueror can access my home bank (https://www2.bancobrasil.com.br/aapf/login.jsp).

As I do not have login info, I cannot test this. Is the problem that ridiculous Java applet? -- Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com http://gibberish.co.il -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

One thing that I missed in KDE4 is  "session" menu in konsole (see attached snapshot). In KDE3 if mc is installed, mc sessions are automatically added to this menu (both as user and as root). In KDE4, konsole has profiles instead. I could not manage with them in 4.1 (the created profiles have not been saved, some profiles were duplicated and so on). 4.2 and 4.3 work better, but still one have to create necessary profiles manually and I still have the profiles duplicated randomly for some reason.

I have to admit that I did not install KDE 4.3 directly. I started from 11.2 with KDE 4.1.2 that was terrible. Then I updated it to KDE 4.2 (using factory repository) and then to KDE 4.3. Maybe in clean 4.3 install it will work better...

Please vote and comment: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=204922 -- Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com http://gibberish.co.il -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Hi, On Mon, Aug 24, 2009 at 1:18 AM, Larry Stotler wrote:

On Sun, Aug 23, 2009 at 2:26 PM, Mark Goldstein wrote:

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One thing that I missed in KDE4 is  "session" menu in konsole (see attached snapshot). In KDE3 if mc is installed, mc sessions are automatically added to this menu (both as user and as root). In KDE4, konsole has profiles instead. I could not manage with them in 4.1 (the created profiles have not been saved, some profiles were duplicated and so on). 4.2 and 4.3 work better, but still one have to create necessary profiles manually and I still have the profiles duplicated randomly for some reason.

I have never seen this menu and I always install midnight commander. How do you bring that up?

The leftmost item in the main menu bar ("session") or left-click-and hold tabs icon in the lower left corner. I've not done anything special to add the "MC" sessions there. Thinking a bit more about it, probably MC package adds to sessions menu (since I remember I once forgotten mc during installation, so no MC sessions in konsole. I've installed MC and MC sessions were added as well. -- Mark Goldstein -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

On 2009/08/23 21:56 (GMT-0700) John Andersen composed:

People buy big screens to fit more on them.

Some people do. Others buy big screens in hope of having screen objects and text big enough to be comfortable without magnifiers and backaches.

Not to have icons the size of snow balls.

It wouldn't bother me to have icons big enough to figure out what they mean or are without having to hover to get a tooltip. -- How much better to get wisdom than gold, to choose understanding rather than silver. Proverbs 16:16 NKJV Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

#1 In 3.5 you could go to the KDE Control Center and find a nice structured menu of all settings in KDE.  Everything was there with only a few tiny omissions.

In KDE4.3 I wander aimlessly trying to find how and where to set these things.  Fonts, colors, sounds, peripherals, samba shares, local network browsing... I could go on and on, but you get the point.  These things are now hidden under various "cashews" and assorted places.  Its kind of a mess.  It needs consolidation again.

All those things that you mention are in System Settings. You might feel more comfortable with the Tree View as opposed to the Mac OS-X icon view in System Settings. If there is a specific setting that you feel should be in System Settings, please tell me which specific setting that is and I will file it.

#2 Also as the system comes, until considerable configuration is performed, you can get so little on the screen that you right away wish you had a 30 inch monitor.  Why is everything so fricken big?  Huge fonts huge icons, Dolphin takes vast areas of real estate to show very few files.

People buy big screens to fit more on them.  Not to have icons the size of snow balls.

Can't there be a Theme named "Please don't waste my screen space" which which allows compact presentation?

Mostly grown-ups use KDE.  They don't need icon view in Dolphin to be the default. We know how to read.

It would be fine if this configuration was ease, but see #2 above.

Please comment and vote on this bug: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=204917

#3 Was it really necessary to remove Kong Filemanager mode and replace it with a repackaged Dolphin just to prevent people from seeing how much more useful the old Kong was than the new Dolphin?

No, it was not necessary and not done. Konqueror is still a KDE file manager, it is just no longer the default file manager.

 Where are the Print System Browser, the Bluetooth Browser, the Audio CD Browser, that all fit under the Services tab?

https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=204943

Those tiny little Pluses in Dolphin that you need to click to expand a directory --- Can't they be bigger?  Shouldn't they be bigger?

Please send to me a screenshot, on my system they look to be a reasonable size.

 They were small in kde 3 too, but I would have expected some improvement.

Did you file an issue? If not, then that expectation is ill-founded! I only say that to demonstrate that it is up to us, the users, to file enhancement requests because the devs code features and usability as they see fit. Which is not their strong point! -- Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com http://gibberish.co.il -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

By the way, I generally don't mind the panels on either side of Dolphin and don't want to remove them, but it might be nice if there was a click action on their inner borders to hide them and show them in one click per action.

Nice one! Comment here: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=205795 -- Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com http://gibberish.co.il -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Dotan Cohen wrote:

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Dont really care about this either way as I stopped using KDE some time back, and KDE4 seems to introducing some of things that originally prompted me check out Linux as an alternative to M$, my real concern is indications in reports like the article below...

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/08/20/opensuse_top_default_to_kde/

Although this is only a change to the default setting of a radio button, my worry is that this could be the thin end of the wedge and I really would prefer *not* to be forced to install KDE (which I no longer use) so that I can install something that I want to use. I have no desire to start a religious war on this, but choice of preferred desktop is an important feature of the Linux experience, and marginalising desktops other than KDE would a worrying development.

Thank you for the insight, Bjarne, but please start a new thread on that topic and do no hijack this one. Thanks!

Bjarne!? Oh well, here we go again.. FYI Below is quote by Bjarne Stroustrup one of (if not the) creator(s) of C++... On a more pertinent note, one also needs to consider those who voted with their feet... KDE is based on the QT GUI API and before I decided to invest time in trying to get KDE 4 going in a way usable for me, I took a little look at the things I use and what they used and found following... Open Office .. largely GTK based Eclipse .. GTK based Mozilla (Firefox/Thunderbird) GTK based SUN JDK/SDK GTK based MySQL admin tools GTK based and the list goes on... The only thing I used on a regular basis that was QT based was konqueror as a file browser. (I am not impressed by dolphin). This was largely mitigated by mc and the discovery that Nautilus no longer did crazy things on my setups. The few other KDE things I use on occasional basis had GTK or X based alternative. KDE AFAIK is the only QT based desktop, and there are rather a lot of non-QT based desktops. So I realised that it it did not make much sense for me install KDE or the QT libraries or invest time in setting up KDE4 (YMMV). BTW Using GTK based apps on 3.x did not produce any major issues for me, but I suspect that the synchronising of KDE4 visual themes with presentation of GTK based apps may cause those who care about those things some problems. If this has not been addressed already it probably needs to be. PS There is now a further factor to consider. When Nokia acquired Trolltech hence QT, it was not to get a foothold in the PC based Open Source market place (it was more likely part of a strategic response to the potential threat posed by android, and the need to update the Symbian OS GUI). Nokia are largely indifferent to Open Source based development and its community, (and can afford to be as Open Source based development in of handset applications is marginal). In some ways Nokia can make M$ seem positively cuddly...., and Nokias relative silence about the future of QT outside of their core market is probably more of a cause of concern than if they had said anything. - -- ============================================================================== I have always wished that my computer would be as easy to use as my telephone. My wish has come true. I no longer know how to use my telephone. Bjarne Stroustrup ============================================================================== -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAkqTvHwACgkQasN0sSnLmgLppwCg29erFxpBNFeViTcO1BW3TNdC lrsAnR1LwArmJbHoa/wyp042uGErt0+4 =Zyge -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

On Monday 24 August 2009 13:57:40 Istvan Gabor wrote:

I could not find out how I can move a panel from the top edge of the screen to the lower edge. I tried to grab the panel but it did not move.

Open the Panel Settings by clicking its button (Plasma logo/cashew on the end of the panel) or right clicking, Panel Options->Panel Settings. There is a 'Screen Edge' handle that you can grab to move the panel as before. (Did anyone else hate that you could accidentally drag the KDE 3 panel to the adjacent edge if you clicked a bit too long with the mouse moving?) HTH Will -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

On Monday August 24 2009 2:08:23 pm Will Stephenson wrote:

On Monday 24 August 2009 13:57:40 Istvan Gabor wrote:

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I could not find out how I can move a panel from the top edge of the screen to the lower edge. I tried to grab the panel but it did not move.

Open the Panel Settings by clicking its button (Plasma logo/cashew on the end of the panel) or right clicking, Panel Options->Panel Settings. There is a 'Screen Edge' handle that you can grab to move the panel as before. (Did anyone else hate that you could accidentally drag the KDE 3 panel to the adjacent edge if you clicked a bit too long with the mouse moving?)

Also, when the panel settings are open like that, you can drag around the panel elements just by clicking and dragging them. You'll see that when you move the mouse over the elements, a move icon appears. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

On Monday 24 August 2009 13:57:40 Istvan Gabor wrote:

I had difficulties with organizing applets/widgets (sepecially taskbar) along the panel. Drag and release sometimes did not work.

Actually this is one of the things that *does* annoy the hell out of me when you try to move a panel widget. I would have thought that the sensible thing to do would to be to either disable clicking through underneath to the widget, or make the "draggable" target area bigger. As it stands, it's almost impossible to drag the system tray to arrange it's position. You end up interacting with the icons that are "underneath" instead. I'll go poke around on kde bugzilla and see if I can find anything outstanding for this. -- “Experience is the name everyone gives to their mistakes.” ☘ Oscar Wilde -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Can we discuss this a bit off list? I am creating a report on this and I need user input. Thanks.

If you see my reply to another post, you might agree that this is unnecessary. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

On Sunday 30 August 2009 22:56:52 John Andersen wrote:

Head of this thread long gone, so I'm posting here to get Doton's attention:

Where did kCron go? I have directories for it, but no KCron for users?

It is now in the KDE control center, which is called "configure desktop" in the menu. Click on the "Advanced" tab, and you'll find "task scheduler" under the System heading. Anders -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Personally I prefer (so far) KDE3 to KDE4 since I find it much more polished, matured, stable. I also like better how it looks.

I agree. That is why I ask you _what_specifically_ is more polished, matured, stable in KDE 3 _for_you_? I want to help get KDE 4 up to that level of polish, maturity, and stability.

I tried KDE4 and found some issues/thing relavant to me: - I really miss the panel hiding buttons.

Please comment and vote here: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=158556

- I don't like that I can't set the font sizes of clock and date of the panel's clock independently. I don't like either that the font size is automatically adjusted according to the panel size.

Please, please make a comment here so that I could reopen the bug: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=185447

- I tried the latest KDE4.3 factory version last week. Panel behavior is still not stable. I had difficulties with organizing applets/widgets (sepecially taskbar) along the panel. Drag and release sometimes did not work. I could not find out how I can move a panel from the top edge of the screen to the lower edge. I tried to grab the panel but it did not move.

I agree with you here, and I am in a fight to improve it. Please, try to do these actions and tell me what you _thought_ should have worked. That would naturally be the most intuitive action, and I want to file a bug to make it the default: 1) How would _you_ like to see widgets rearranged on the panel? (list _all_ the steps). 2) How would _you_ like to see the panel resized? (list _all_ the steps). 3) How would _you_ like to see the panel moved to a different screen edge? (list _all_ the steps). Thank you very, very much for this input!

- I miss the ability of making the same theme as I have in KDE3.

You can make custom themes in KDE 4. What part of the theme is not customizable for you (note that I do not know how to make themes, but I know that it is possible)?

I also would like to see a list or link to a list that describes/poins to the advantages of KDE4 over KDE3, because myself I can not see it.

That is a good point. I will get on that, and I will make a similar list that would describe the advantages of KDE 3 over KDE 4. Thanks for the idea. To tell you the truth, I think that for those who have no problems with KDE 3, they should stick with KDE 3. But in the same vain we should identify the KDE 3 advantages and port them over to KDE 4 as well. Thanks! -- Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com http://gibberish.co.il -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

KDE Menu Editor does not save shortcut key. I set the shortcut key, click on Save, a small window appears showing  "Updating system configuration." After closing KDE Menu Editor, there is no response to the new keyboard shortcut. Running KDE 4.3 factory on SuSE 11.1.

Which shortcut key? Please give me exact reproduction instructions. Thanks. -- Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com http://gibberish.co.il -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Will Stephenson wrote:

On Sunday 23 August 2009 11:02:45 Dotan Cohen wrote:

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The day when KDE 3 will no longer be viable is getting closer every day. Please tell me what problems you are having with KDE 4.3 so that we can get them fixed. KDE 3 is great because it is mature, configurable, and feature-laden without being bloated. I do not want to see that go to waste! It is the KDE 3 holdouts who have the attention to detail to distinguish the "little things" that make KDE 3 so great that are currently lacking in the KDE 4 branch.

One less "little thing":

http://www.kdedevelopers.org/node/4054

Fixes http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=189583

Will

Nice.. Very Nice. However, this option does not appear if you have widgets locked. And (at least to date) you HAVE to have widgets locked 24/7 or you will run the risk of having your entire panel (or desktop) trashed at random, with no warning. It would be nice if this sub-menu contained a option to unlock widgets and ... Add to desktop Add to panel This would imply an automatic re-lock. I tried running 4.2 with widgets unlocked for 5 hours yesterday and sure enough my panel was corrupted. Not so bad as in the past, recovery was mostly possible, but I am left with a pager widget that is an inch wide rather than the quarter inch wide it was originally. Had to delete and re-add. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

On Monday 24 August 2009 22:34:31 Patrick Shanahan wrote:

* John Andersen [08-24-09 15:30]:

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However, this option does not appear if you have widgets locked. And (at least to date) you HAVE to have widgets locked 24/7 or you will run the risk of having your entire panel (or desktop) trashed at random, with no warning.

It would be nice if this sub-menu contained a option to unlock widgets and ... Add to desktop Add to panel

This would imply an automatic re-lock.

not possible(?): unlock widgets make changes lock widgets

Right. I won't do what John suggests for a couple of good reasons * KDE should make widget placement stable when unlocked so that widgets don't run all over like roaches the instant the lock comes off. Not that I have noticed this much in 4.3.0. * Locked Widgets mode is there so that admins can really lock the desktop layout, so I'm not going to workaround it. Will -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

One less "little thing":

http://www.kdedevelopers.org/node/4054

Fixes http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=189583

Great! -- Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com http://gibberish.co.il -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

On Monday 24 August 2009 18:49:30 you wrote:

How about a knetworkmanager applet that can deal with hidden wireless networks in KDE 4.3, or will I continue to have to use KDE3 knetworkmanger in KDE 4.3 ?

Who are you and how do you know what's on my hard disk? ;) Seriously, I will have this feature in o:F NetworkManager-kde4 this week. Will -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

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Who are you and how do you know what's on my hard disk? ;)

Isn't linux wonderful? The networking is great.. ;-) We can find out all sorts of things..

Ha! One day we will be able to blame thismonstrosity : http://dot.kde.org/2009/05/01/social-desktop-starts-arrive And that is more important that fixing panel hiding or letting us remove the cashew?!? Now do you guys (and gals) see why I need you to back me up on some of these bugs? -- Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com http://gibberish.co.il -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

From a security and personal identity aspect I am totally against this. It would make it too easy for Big Brother to snoop on me. There are more important things to be working on.

It us easily disabled, in fact, I think that you have to explicitly enable it. But five minutes with someone's computer should be enough to enable it! I expect this to become a malware attack vector. -- Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com http://gibberish.co.il -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

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From a security and personal identity aspect I am totally against this. It would make it too easy for Big Brother to snoop on me. There are more important things to be working on.

Bah. Have you seen Google Wave?  It should scare you to death. http://wave.google.com/ Its a long (and impressive) video demo, but the security implications are staggering. Its all done with a browser.

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I'm the shadow of linux Who knows what evil lurks in the hard drives of all, The Shadow Knows hehehehehehehehehe. Awesome on having that feature looking fwd to trying it out. Tony Will Stephenson wrote:

On Monday 24 August 2009 18:49:30 you wrote:

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How about a knetworkmanager applet that can deal with hidden wireless networks in KDE 4.3, or will I continue to have to use KDE3 knetworkmanger in KDE 4.3 ?

Who are you and how do you know what's on my hard disk? ;)

Seriously, I will have this feature in o:F NetworkManager-kde4 this week.

Will

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On Mon, 2009-08-24 at 20:55 +0200, Per Inge Oestmoen wrote:

Two questions about Konqueror:

1. Is Dolphin now as capable as Konqueror?

2 If not, can Konqueror be chosen as a standard file browser/manager just like in KDE 3? I would assume such is the case.

When I tried Dolphin, it lacked sorely in functionality. In Konqueror 3, there are ten different view modes, not so in Dolphin.

Further, in Konqueror 3 there is a Create Image Gallery function. That was nowhere to be found in Dolphin's opensuse 11.1.

Does the latest Dolphin now show the meta data for any given file, like what Konqueror does in KDE 3?

In Konqueror 3, one can easily get to the meta info simply by right clicking on "Properties," and then Meta Info. You then get a long, informative and valuable list of meta data, like this one:

http://www.coldsiberia.net/phototest/konqueror_meta_data1.jpg

http://www.coldsiberia.net/phototest/konqueror_meta_data2.jpg

Does Konqueror 4 now include all these functions and more, so that it is finally as functional as Konqueror 3?

That Konqueror 3 function, which was absent in both Konqueror 4 and the Dolphin of 11.1, gives Meta Info for all sorts of files directly from the file browser.

http://www.coldsiberia.net/phototest/konqueror_meta_data3.jpg

http://www.coldsiberia.net/phototest/konqueror_meta_data4.jpg

As you can see, this is extremely useful.

Has the functionality been downgraded? If so, it has to be restored as soon as possible.

Greetings, Per Inge Oestmoen, Norway

Like above I too find Dolphin lacking in features. I tried it in both 4.1 and the factory version 4.2.x. The only thing I want is a powerful file manager and if web functionality is excluded, I could not care less. Regards, Frans. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Further, in Konqueror 3 there is a Create Image Gallery function. That was nowhere to be found in Dolphin's opensuse 11.1.

Ummm I forget, what exactly does this do? Create thumbnails for viewing in Konq? Depending on your view mode and your plugins, Dolphin thubnails all my images.. or were you looking for something different (Image Gallery isn't something I used in 3.5)

Does the latest Dolphin now show the meta data for any given file, like what Konqueror does in KDE 3?

See here http://forum.kde.org/viewtopic.php?f=15&t=62458&start=10 and here: http://forum.kde.org/viewtopic.php?f=15&t=62458&start=0 C. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

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Further, in Konqueror 3 there is a Create Image Gallery function. That was nowhere to be found in Dolphin's opensuse 11.1.

Ummm I forget, what exactly does this do?  Create thumbnails for viewing in Konq?  Depending on your view mode and your plugins, Dolphin thubnails all my images.. or were you looking for something different (Image Gallery isn't something I used in 3.5)

The Create Image Gallery function makes a directory with an HTML image gallery suitable for uploading to a web server. As the Create Image Gallery function is not _file_management_ it won't be in Dolphin. But it can be added to Konqueror in KDE 4. -- Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com http://gibberish.co.il -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

File browser functionality - what is the status?

Pretty good, but different than in KDE 3. Dolphin is now (finally, and I never thought that I would say this) a great file manager. I use it for my day-to-day file management. Konqueror is missing some features from KDE 3, but has some new features that were not in KDE 3. My suggestion is to try both Konqueror and Dolphin, and send to me a list of issues. Thanks. -- Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com http://gibberish.co.il -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

* Karl Sinn [08-25-09 12:18]:

+1 for the *complete* functionality of konqueror

*complete* doesn't mean the same thing to everyone. There are *many* functions not used, used minimally or not applicable to 11.2. It is *necessary* to be specific in requesting items as KDE4 was a new, complete rewrite, not an increment to KDE3s history. -- Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA HOG # US1244711 http://wahoo.no-ip.org Photo Album: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/gallery2 Registered Linux User #207535 @ http://counter.li.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Am Mittwoch, 26. August 2009 16:02:37 schrieb Dotan Cohen:

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+1 for the *complete* functionality of konqueror

You've got in, Karl! Just list here the all the missing Konqueror functionality and I will do my best to help implement it. Be specific.

Some of the things have already been reported here, and some of these things may be configuration problems on my machine, but I think that they should work "out of the box". - image Gallery (HTML) is missing in konqueror - all the different kind of folder views that have been in konqueror 3.5 esp for pictures. Also I can not watch pictures in konqueror any more, the arrows for next and previous image are missing. - the *.torrents are unknown by konqueror and dolphin and have to be configured manually - before I could unmount USB-Sticks... in konqueror, Now I have this icon in the "kicker" that opens and never closes when I connect a new media. It should close one moment even if I don't click on it. And also the operations to be executed should be just right there maybe accessible with a right click, and not in a new window. Also the list of actions to be executed is quite limited. It would be nice to get back the same choices as in 3.5. - konqueror shows the same icons on this side bar for root and network folder before the root-folder was in red - when I add a new entry to the "Orte" list in dolphin then I can choose an icon, but my choice is ignored. - I can't configure the "kicker" any more as I could before. Like giving it a color or a background image... - I have this double click thing here with all the themes only oxygen is running with normal single click. - my konqueror can not access ftp servers - on the "kicker", right side, are two buttons with the same icon for two different actions. Two different actions should have different buttons - ktorrent has a few features that are not working any more like the UPnP for example. It doesn't show my routers any more. - "miniprogramm" Dictionary. I can't configure it. It defaults to english - english Well for the moment that's all I miss :-) Hope it helps Karl -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

* Dotan Cohen [08-26-09 13:49]:

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- before I could unmount USB-Sticks... in konqueror, Now I have this icon in the "kicker" that opens and never closes when I connect a new media. It should close one moment even if I don't click on it. And also the operations to be executed should be just right there maybe accessible with a right click, and not in a new window.

That is the Devices Notifier widget, and it should close. At least it closes here on my KDE 4.3 system. However, I do not see an easy way to get to the mounted media in Konqueror, so I filed this: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=205222

Furthermore, you are right, there is no way to unmount, so I filed this: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=205223

Please comment and vote on them!

There is an "eject" button beside the icon text on the Devices Notifier popup/wizzzard that will eject the cd/dvd tray effectively un-mounting the item. This action also appears for a usb stick and for camera flash disks, but *only* after the device has been mounted by choosing one of the options presented or mounting it manually (this action still exists). you might want to pull *that* bug :^). -- Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA HOG # US1244711 http://wahoo.no-ip.org Photo Album: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/gallery2 Registered Linux User #207535 @ http://counter.li.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Dotan Cohen wrote:

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There is an "eject" button beside the icon text on the Devices Notifier popup/wizzzard that will eject the cd/dvd tray effectively un-mounting the item. This action also appears for a usb stick and for camera flash disks, but *only* after the device has been mounted by choosing one of the options presented or mounting it manually (this action still exists).

you might want to pull *that* bug :^).

I do not understand where you see a bug here. There is no sense in providing an unmount option for unmounted media.

I would be very nice if the button were labeled as unless you know what it is and does you will be very hard pressed to find it -- In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice; In practice, there is Robert Cunningham Sr. Physics Laboratory Coordinator /RSO -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

2009/8/27 Patrick Shanahan :

* Dotan Cohen [08-26-09 14:49]:

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There is an "eject" button beside the icon text on the Devices Notifier popup/wizzzard that will eject the cd/dvd tray effectively un-mounting the item.  This action also appears for a usb stick and for camera flash disks, but *only* after the device has been mounted by choosing one of the options presented or mounting it manually (this action still exists).

you might want to pull *that* bug  :^).

I do not understand where you see a bug here. There is no sense in providing an unmount option for unmounted media.

<quote> Where *I* see a bug.  Your comment you conviently trimmed:

That is the Devices Notifier widget, and it should close. At least it closes here on my KDE 4.3 system. However, I do not see an easy way to get to the mounted media in Konqueror, so I filed this: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=205222

Furthermore, you are right, there is no way to unmount, so I filed this: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=205223

Please comment and vote on them! </quote>

I'm *trying* to tell you that *your* bug is invalid.

But you are correct, there is *no* need of an unmount button/option for an unmounted object.

Alright, I am trying to follow you here. Which of the two bugs is invalid, and why? Is it the feature request to unmount media from within Konqueror? I do not agree that since users can install a widget to unmount media, that means that their file manager should not be able to unmount media. -- Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com http://gibberish.co.il -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

 > That's a Suse bug, not a KDE bug, so you'll have to report it on the  > Suse bug tracker.  >  ok, but... this is an opensuse mailing list, isn't it? -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Istvan Gabor wrote:

The KDE4 device notifier seems to be a good tool to handle (mount/unmount/open) removable media. However I would like an icon to be placed on the desktop when a removable medium is attached. Is this possible in KDE4? Then I would not forget occasionallly to unmount the device before I unplug it. Thanks, Istvan

Oh god, I could make some comments here, but I won't. Let me just ask you, Istvan: do you walk out your front door in the morning without first checking to make sure that you have your trousers on? OK, so occasionally you walk out the front door without your trousers - and what are the consequences :-) ? Are they as bad as forgetting to unmount a device before you unplug it? BC -- Great Man reaches complete understanding of the main issues; Petty Man reaches complete understanding of the minute details." Confucius -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

jsa wrote:

On Saturday 29 August 2009 05:40:36 am Basil Chupin wrote:

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Istvan Gabor wrote:

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The KDE4 device notifier seems to be a good tool to handle (mount/unmount/open) removable media. However I would like an icon to be placed on the desktop when a removable medium is attached. Is this possible in KDE4? Then I would not forget occasionallly to unmount the device before I unplug it. Thanks, Istvan

Oh god, I could make some comments here, but I won't.

Let me just ask you, Istvan: do you walk out your front door in the morning without first checking to make sure that you have your trousers on?

OK, so occasionally you walk out the front door without your trousers - and what are the consequences :-) ? Are they as bad as forgetting to unmount a device before you unplug it?

BC

Was that called for Basil?

No it wasn't called for. And I explained myself in a private message to Istvan.

Really, every other version of KDE had on-screen icons for mounted devices. So does Gnome. What is your problem anyway? It was a perfectly proper request.

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Dotan Cohen wrote:

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The KDE4 device notifier seems to be a good tool to handle (mount/unmount/open) removable media. However I would like an icon to be placed on the desktop when a removable medium is attached. Is this possible in KDE4? Then I would not forget occasionallly to unmount the device before I unplug it.

Istvan, please comment on this bug: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=204953

But, for heaven's sake, why should he comment on something to do with Ubuntu when we are talking here openSUSE? And in any case, the icon already exists in the taskbar! BC -- Great Man reaches complete understanding of the main issues; Petty Man reaches complete understanding of the minute details." Confucius -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

On Tue, 1 Sep 2009 02:13:12 Dotan Cohen wrote:

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The KDE4 device notifier seems to be a good tool to handle (mount/unmount/open) removable media. However I would like an icon to be placed on the desktop when a removable medium is attached. Is this possible in KDE4? Then I would not forget occasionallly to unmount the device before I unplug it.

Istvan, please comment on this bug: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=204953

Surely all he needs to do is add an instance of the device notifier widget his desktop in that case. Right click on desktop -> Unlock Widgets -> Add Widgets + drag Device Notifier to a location on the desktop... -- =================================================== Rodney Baker VK5ZTV rodney.baker@iinet.net.au =================================================== -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

       The major frustration of the past year+ with kde4 has been the way it has been marketed as a "finished" and "released" desktop that can take the place of kde3. Face it, that has just been dishonest. To date, there still isn't a printer configuration in kde control center.

System Settings -> Printer Configuration. I used it just yesterday on the wife's desktop. That said, I do agree that KDE 4 needs a lot of work before it could be released to hose with the standards of KDE 3.

       That notwithstanding, KDE4.3 is what I, and I think a lot of people would agree, is an official non-beta release of KDE. Yes, it has it's annoyances, but at least most of the pieces are there and we finally have *most* of the icons in kde control center. It is a huge step forward and a step in the right direction over whatever kde 4.2 was. If what Dotan is suggesting is that there is now going to be a big push to clean it up, then fantastic, kde4 will be one hell of a desktop -- but the work has got to get done, it isn't there yet.

‎The "big push" is from you and me. I've filed over 1000 bugs on KDE 4 fit and finish, and about half of them are already resolved. Now I need users with a sharp eye for details to help me find the rest of the issues. That "big push" is from the community, and we probably should have done it sooner.

       Now, I haven't just set idly back an bitched about kde4 without trying to do my part. I have put my efforts were my mouth is to test every part of kde4 and author or contribute to bug reports on everything I find and have time to report in hope of getting this desktop to a point where I, and everyone else, can enjoy using it without having 1/2 your time wasted chasing down bugs in it or trying to figure out why x, y and z don't work. Here is the url to the list of 121 kde4 bugs I have either authored or contributed to over that period of time:

Thanks, I will take the time to triage each of those that I can in the coming weeks. I encourage others to make a list of pet bugs and post, so that the community cn triage as well.

       Dotan, if you are serious about wanting the list of the major kde4 problems to push them to whereever or whoever they need to go to so they can be fixed prior to the 11.2 release, I am more than willing to prepare a list of the most glaring kde4 bugs that will really annoy 11.2 users who are transitioning from kde3 to kde4. Of the 121 kde4 bugs contained in the list above, the following are the really annoying ones that I, and everyone else, would be grateful if you would help get fixed.

I am serious and I am triaging, but I cannot do it alone. We need the OpenSuse community to post and support those bugs. Many of the issues the devs do not agree with, and without community support they will not get fixed. Even the bugs closed as WONTFIX (or, especially those) need community input to get reopened.

       The way I look at it, the real visible and annoying ones are the ones that a user will see when they try to do the simple things like have konqueror file manager open up looking the same as it did the last time they closed it (after saving the file-management profile). That still doesn't work and things like that where you have to continually repeat basic application or desktop setup is just inexcusable in the "third" (.3) release of a finished desktop. I have taken the time to pull from my bug list the top 20 or so annoyances and grouped them by kde component. (e.g. Konqueror, Plasma-Desktop, etc..)

       If these are fixed, then kde4 *will be* a replacement for KDE3.

Thank you, I will go through the list and triage. It is exactly involvement like yours that KDE needs more than anything right now. Thanks!

       I don't know how you get these fixed faster, but it seems many of them have just been lingering on the kde bug list without much effort put toward getting them fixed. I look at the list above and think about "what kde4 would be like to use without them", and I think it would rock. So I know it will get there, it just a bit frustrating to use at present.

I triage the bugs and confirm them. Each time there is activity on the bug the dev gets an email. If the mails sounds like "confirmed in XYZ" it gets attention. That is why the whole community must help here: these bugs need attention. -- Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com http://gibberish.co.il -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Would you please let us all know which e-mail client you are using because you are sending your replies to the original poster and to this mail-list. (For example, your response to me were posted to me directly as well as a CC: to this mail-list.) Knowing what you are using we could advise you how to configure your e-mail client so that you only reply to this mail-list. As well, your postings contain weird characters - see above in the first para..)

I am using the Gmail web interface for mailing list mail. Two problems: 1) There are no options to configure! 2) Every mailing list wants a different reply style. I subscribe to over 50 and participate regularly in 15 or so. To be safest I respond to the mailing list and the poster, unless I remember that a specific list requests a specific reply protocol. Note that Gmail does respect the email reply-to headers, so the best way to request that one follow list policy is to configure mailman to send messages with the appropriate headers. Thank you for bringing the matter to my attention, I will try to remember (no promises!) that the Suse list prefers that I reply only to the list. -- Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com http://gibberish.co.il -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

On Tuesday 01 September 2009 12:40:49 am Stephan Binner wrote:

On Tuesday 01 September 2009 00:55:19 David C. Rankin wrote:

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Here is the url to the list of 121 kde4 bugs I have either authored or

Including Basket and Quanta? Those have not been even ported to KDE4 :-)...

Bye, Steve

Thanks Steve, I knew I could count on you for a positive comment. However, in your comment, you do hit on one of the key, but nasty, kde4 problems affecting users as they are moved to kde4. What's that?? "Those have not been even ported to KDE4 :-)" There are still key apps that are not even kde4 ready. Quanta is a biggie. Unfortunately, the developer (Eric Laffoon) feels a complete re-write is required to do that and it is in work. But, the timeline for completion is anyone's guess and the resources required greatly exceed what is available. I cannot imagine a kde4 without quanta and I cannot imagine life without basket-notepads. As long as kde3 runtime will continue to provide the necessary functionality and as long as openSuSE will continue to provide the needed packages as a bandaid until kde4 has the apps that kde3 did, then that will continue to be a workable solution. -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. Rankin Law Firm, PLLC 510 Ochiltree Street Nacogdoches, Texas 75961 Telephone: (936) 715-9333 Facsimile: (936) 715-9339 www.rankinlawfirm.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

On Wed, 02 Sep, 2009 at 06:18:05 +0200, Karl Sinn wrote:

Hi,

two more things that are trouble for daily work:

Dolphin: To select a file, it would be great if it would be possible to click on right side of the filename, like in konqueror. This precise click on this icon left to the filename drives me crazy. I want to select a file and not need to focus on what to do with the mouse.

https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=145358 Please vote. /jon -- YMMV -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Am Mittwoch, 2. September 2009 08:01:18 schrieb Jon Clausen:

On Wed, 02 Sep, 2009 at 06:18:05 +0200, Karl Sinn wrote:

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Hi,

two more things that are trouble for daily work:

Dolphin: To select a file, it would be great if it would be possible to click on right side of the filename, like in konqueror. This precise click on this icon left to the filename drives me crazy. I want to select a file and not need to focus on what to do with the mouse.

https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=145358

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Am Mittwoch, 2. September 2009 13:11:48 schrieb Dotan Cohen:

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Dolphin: If the extraction of an archive fails, I get no error message...

Can you send to me an archive that fails to open? I'd like to triage this. Thanks.

When the fail to open, I delete them :-) Can't you just take an archive and a text editor and change some bytes in there? It should work :-) Karl -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

1. Konqueror history side panel: http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=206155

This looks great, but I am afraid that it might be ignored in it's current state. It should have been filed as separate bugs. If ti goes nowhere in a month or two contact me off list and we will file the improvements as separate bugs. תוכל לכתוב לי גם בעברית!‏

http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=193966

The History panel was removed from Konqueror?!? I will investigate this! Thanks!

http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=205521

Now I see where this is going...

2. An option into Kicker/logout section to switch another user/start a new session without locking the current one. http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=174100

Thanks, I voted for that issue. -- Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com http://gibberish.co.il -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

"Send with Bluetooth" option in right click menu in Dolphin doesn't work any more. It says: "Application kbtobexclient is not available". Kdebluetooth4 package is installed from KDE:KDE4:Factory repo.

I don't have that option in Dolphin, and even filed a feature request for it some time ago: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=192090 -- Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com http://gibberish.co.il -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org