On Tuesday, June 12, 2012 09:36:09 PM C wrote:
On Tue, Jun 12, 2012 at 9:17 PM, Ricardo Chung
You should be
able to enable/disable the SecureBoot option on UEFI with
no further issues.
That assumes that:
1. The manufacturer puts that option into the UEFI setup (it's not
mandatory, from what I read, that they allow you to disable it... they
can allow it.. or not...it's only on Arm that they currently cannot
allow it to be disabled if they want the Win8 Certified logo.. which
they all want)
2. The end user is aware of this requirement to
Just a small correcitons. It's to disable the SecureBoot on UEFI. UEFI is the
new BIOS equivalent capable to handle the devices connected and the way it
communicate each other with the operating system.
3. The end user is capable of disabling UEFI
Again, you should switch UEFI to SecureBoot.
The typical scenario is... someone buys a computer.. wants to try out
this Linux thing they've heard of.. .pops a LiveUSB/CD/DVD in and
boots it up.. UEFI pops up with whatever dire warning the manufacturer
put in... "You are attempting to boot an unauthorized operating
system, system halted" or some such scary message. How many will twig
and say "oh right.. press Del during boot.. find and disable UEFI and
boot again"... not many.
As far as it's tested, LiveCD are not impacted. Said so, you could be able to
boot a LiveCD to play it Live Only. Not installing it. Though is possible it
will change next months.
You are right. New users and not experienced enough will stop themselves to go
beyond if they receive too many scary messages or not messages at all during
The core issue is not on Windows 8 laptops.
It's the specification ARM
Architecture+Window 8 Certification Logo+UEFI+SecureBoot. This special
scenario will come with a SecureBoot not able to deactivate on UEFI or
any other ways.
Other architectures like x86 may be coming with the option to deactivate
SecureBoot on UEFI.
Operative word there being "may".
Right. Vendors "may". There is no obligation from Anti-trust Courts or anyone.
Any concerns related to boot other operating
systems than Windows 8 with
Certification Logo must be addressed to get a key registered with
Microsoft Keys Manager. At this right moment, it seems no other options
cost-effective feasible and available.
I agree 100% here. We should stop waffling... buy the darned key and
let's get on with implementing it into the standard openSUSE releases.
We can be ready on time for the releases - which are happening later
this year... or we can play catchup.... again.
If we don't have enough money in the marketing budget or wherever,
then ask on the project list.. I'm sure that one or several of us
could cough up the $99 US to cover it for the project.
Completely agreed. If we don't have a better wildcard to play that's the way
it should go and problably making a public statement from SUSE because at the
end it is a commercial issue impacted.
Note: Anyway the user needs some minimal technical knowledge to able and/or to
disable SecureBoot from UEFI. And this is another point of concerns for the
next future operating system releases.
Ricardo Chung | Panama
Linux & FOSS Ambassador
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