November 2010 - openSUSE Features - openSUSE Mailing Lists

[New: openFATE 310238] Restore KDE3 as part of OpenSUSE
by fate_noreply＠suse.de 04 Nov '10

04 Nov '10

Feature added by: Ilya Chernykh (Ansus) Feature #310238, revision 1 Title: Restore KDE3 as part of OpenSUSE openSUSE-11.4: Unconfirmed Priority Requester: Important Requested by: Ilya Chernykh (ansus) Description: I suggest to restore KDE3 as part of OpenSUSE distribution and include the possibility to install KDE3 into installer. OpenSUSE is a distribution which is known for its tolerance towards different desktop environments such as Gnome, KDE, LXDE and gives the widest DE choice possibilities than any other distribution I know. This is specially important in the light of KDE4 being still unstable and of beta quality: Plasma still crashes, spatial mode in Konqueror is still broken and multiple features still missing. Inclusion of KDE3 in OpenSUSE could help attract multiple users of other Linux distributions which have discontinued KDE3. KDE3 is still widely used and popular environment, much more so than some others already included in OpenSUSE. It also helps easier migration from Windows as it offers familiar and classical interface. I cannot imagine a school teacher, office worker or a bureaucrat using KDE4. One of the reasons against KDE3 inclusion was that some claim it is discontinued upstream. But a look at the KDE3 svn shows it is still supported and bugfixed: http://websvn.kde.org/branches/KDE/3.5/ The last commit being only 6 days ago. Since our 11.2 release multiple features were improved, including crash-proof, debugging, karchive, vcards, kmail, kcommander, kaffeine and the help system. There is another branch of KDE3 development, a project known as Trinity, hosted in the same SVN repository, which aims on adding new features to KDE3 and continuous development. While this project gives hope of the future of KDE3, I currently would not recommend including their packages in OpenSUSE, and suggest to stick with the above-mentioned vanilla branch. Maintainig KDE3 currently would not require much resources, since the most difficult step - adapting KDE3 to co-existence with KDE4, moving it to another namespace, renaming packages, is already accomplished by the efforts of Novell and the SUSE team. Most other distributions could not cope with this challenge, but this titanic effort is already in the past for OpenSUSE. That would be even more unreasonable to drop KDE3 just after the bridge is left behind. -- openSUSE Feature: https://features.opensuse.org/310238

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[New: openFATE 309380] NetworkManager 0.81
by fate_noreply＠suse.de 04 Nov '10

04 Nov '10

Feature added by: Thomas Sundell (thsundel) Feature #309380, revision 1 Title: NetworkManager 0.81 openSUSE-11.3: Unconfirmed Priority Requester: Important Requested by: Thomas Sundell (thsundel) Description: Please include the latest version of networkmanager in 11.3. Many need the bluetooth dun functionality. -- openSUSE Feature: https://features.opensuse.org/309380

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[New: openFATE 310225] VLC in opensuse
by fate_noreply＠suse.de 04 Nov '10

04 Nov '10

Feature added by: Agustin Chavarria (dj_ubun_1) Feature #310225, revision 1 Title: VLC in opensuse Package Wishlist: Unconfirmed Priority Requester: Desirable Requested by: Agustin Chavarria (dj_ubun_1) Description: Hi! VLC is a great media player, it awesome, and it will be good, to add like a default media player in opensuse 12.0, because, VLC can play any type of video without codecs. Totem and Kaffeine have problems with codecs because the licence, but VLC doesnt have problem with licence. What do you think? -- openSUSE Feature: https://features.opensuse.org/310225

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[openFATE 307145] delta rpm's for all major repositories
by fate_noreply＠suse.de 04 Nov '10

04 Nov '10

Feature added by: Bill P (google01103) Feature #307145, revision 1 Title: delta rpm's for all major repositories Buildservice: Unconfirmed Priority Requester: Important Package Wishlist: Unconfirmed Priority Requester: Important Requested by: Bill P (google01103) Description: I understand this is planned but have not seen any recent mention of it and considering as how the recent updates to the KDE4 factory repo's has been both large and frequent this would be a most desirably feature for those of us with slower dsl and dialup connections -- openSUSE Feature: https://features.opensuse.org/307145

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[openFATE 306641] Manage flickr from the openSUSE Desktop
by fate_noreply＠suse.de 04 Nov '10

04 Nov '10

Feature added by: Karl Eichwalder (keichwa) Feature #306641, revision 1 Title: Manage flickr from the openSUSE Desktop Hackweek IV: Unconfirmed Priority Requester: Important Requested by: Karl Eichwalder (keichwa) Description: For a short into, see http://en.opensuse.org/Flickr -- openSUSE Feature: https://features.opensuse.org/306641

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[openFATE 305877] Popularity contest
by fate_noreply＠suse.de 04 Nov '10

04 Nov '10

Feature changed by: Andreas Jaeger (a_jaeger) Feature #305877, revision 36 Title: Popularity contest openSUSE-11.2: Rejected by Stephan Kulow (coolo) reject date: 2009-09-07 13:57:05 reject reason: No update, too late for 11.2 - and for the future I would rather see it integrated into smolt Priority Requester: Important Projectmanager: Desirable - openSUSE-11.3: Unconfirmed + openSUSE-11.3: Rejected by Andreas Jaeger (a_jaeger) + reject date: 2010-11-04 14:42:00 + reject reason: Not done. Priority Requester: Desirable - openSUSE-11.4: Unconfirmed + openSUSE-11.4: New Priority Requester: Important Requested by: Vladimir Nadvornik (nadvornik) Developer: (Novell) Description: We need a feedback about packages that are preferred by users and actively used. Debian already has a tool named Popularity contest (popcon) * reusing popcon will give us results that are directly comparable with Debian and Ubuntu * packagers team can take care of the package * we need a configuration dialog in YaST that is visible enough * we need a server infrastructure on opensuse.org. (There are certain privacy issues, see Debian FAQ for details) References: http://en.opensuse.org/BrainStorming_Prague#We_don.27t_know_which_packages_… http://popcon.debian.org/FAQ http://popcon.debian.org/ http://popcon.ubuntu.com/ Discussion: #1: Michal Vyskocil (mvyskocil) (2009-02-20 12:56:06) The pupularity-contest executable is a simple Perl script, which should be ported to rpm (replacing of dpkg calls by appropiate rpm alternative should be enough). #2: Pavol Rusnak (prusnak) (2009-03-11 15:53:13) (reply to #1) Replacing of dpkg calls with rpm is a no-go, because of the transactions in RPM. I started to work on a rewrite, will post results soon ... #3: Marek Stopka (m4r3k) (2009-03-13 09:28:08) (reply to #2) And here is a result... :-) http://stick.gk2.sk/blog/2009/03/popcorn-popularity-contest-for-rpm/ #4: Jay Mistry (zmdmw52) (2009-03-15 15:36:25) The software equivalent of Smolts Hardware profiler. Results can be uploaded to a dedicated website (such as is for Smolts- http://www.smolts.org/), so that users can see the relative weight/popularity of various commonly-used applications. #7: Carlos Gonçalves (cgoncalves) (2009-07-25 19:03:58) (reply to #4) There is a GSOC project (http://socghop.appspot.com/student_project/show/google/gsoc2009/gentoo/t124…) which is addressing this (Smolt) feature to Gentoo, though the author has been coding this aswell to Debian-based distros and more recently considering RPM distros too. I've been working with him on the client integration since I'm its author, and from my side all I can say is that Smolt sooner or later will be addressing this feature, too, but won't be ready in time for openSUSE 11.2 since feature/version freeze is next week (July 31). #5: T. J. Brumfield (enderandrew) (2009-06-13 21:16:54) During install, there can be a simple checkbox such as "Share hardware/software details with openSUSE servers for profiling." #6: Stephan Kulow (coolo) (2009-06-24 11:29:15) first we need the package in and someone to maintain the server or contact debian if they host other distros too. #9: 6tr6tr 6tr6tr (6tr6tr) (2010-10-01 20:16:28) I would actually prefer that things not just have one ranking but: - 1. Trustworthiness 2. Privacy 3. Reliability/Uptime/Speed 4. Popularity - I think those are all important and very different requirements. -- openSUSE Feature: https://features.opensuse.org/305877

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[openFATE 301038] Improved performance in main menu, app browser and control center
by fate_noreply＠suse.de 04 Nov '10

04 Nov '10

Feature changed by: Andreas Jaeger (a_jaeger) Feature #301038, revision 54 Title: Improved performance in main menu, app browser and control center - Hackweek V: Unconfirmed - Priority - Requester: Mandatory openSUSE-10.2: Rejected by JP Rosevear (jproseve) reject date: 2006-10-17 08:30:51 reject reason: Performance bottlenecks are mostly remaining in some lower level libraries that need review. Priority Requester: Desirable Projectmanager: Important openSUSE-10.3: Rejected by Gary Ekker (gekker) reject date: 2007-09-12 11:10:12 reject reason: Nothing done for 10.3. Priority Requester: Desirable Projectmanager: Important openSUSE-11.0: Done Priority Requester: Important Projectmanager: Important openSUSE-11.1: Done Priority Requester: Important openSUSE-11.2: Done Priority Requester: Mandatory - openSUSE-11.4: Unconfirmed - Priority - Requester: Mandatory Requested by: Nat Friedman (natfriedman) Developer: (Novell) Developer: (Novell) Description: Improved performance in main menu, app, browsers and control center Discussion: #1: Gary Ekker (gekker) (2006-08-17 09:56:56) Anna, can we get more info on this? #2: Anna Dirks (annadirks) (2006-09-21 16:49:05) (reply to #1) Improved performace sounds to me like it means more quick and responsive. This would be an issue for Jim Krehl to manager I believe; the feedback which I have received regarding Main Menu/AB/CC performance centers around the menu taking a while to appear, and the AB/CC not necessarily defaulting to the best behavior when one searches for an launches an item. #3: JP Rosevear (jproseve) (2007-01-10 21:40:13) We didn't do anything major here for SP1, and with no PM priority I think its safe to reject. #4: Jared Allen (jpallen) (2007-09-12 11:59:45) Actually, Jimmy developed a muti-threaded model and re-worked the tiles for both the app browser and the main menu. This should improve performance. He did no do anything for the control center. #5: JP Rosevear (jproseve) (2008-04-08 16:04:35) Federico did a good amount of performance improvements in the main-menu for 11.0. #6: Guy Lunardi (glunardi) (2008-06-23 13:53:50) (reply to #5) Great to hear, this remains a big issue for our preloads, especially on slower systems like thin clients and low-cost PC. #7: JP Rosevear (jproseve) (2008-09-11 17:05:34) Thumbnailing was removed, but beyond that nothing more happened. Hard to say when this is done exactly. #9: Atri Bhattacharya (badshah400) (2010-08-14 06:03:02) To the person identified as jpxviii jpxviii, who changed the title of this feature to read "... app, browsers ..." instead of the current title, please stop spamming openFATE. You are not the requestor of this feature (or the 100 others you have been resetting for hackweek and openSUSE 11.4), so please do not change anything if you do not understand what it means. #10: jpxviii jpxviii (jpxviii) (2010-08-14 23:52:48) I read your post and I apologize, sorry, will not happen again. Goodbye -- openSUSE Feature: https://features.opensuse.org/301038

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[New: openFATE 309118] KDE: set default desktop as Folder view on ~/Desktop
by fate_noreply＠suse.de 04 Nov '10

04 Nov '10

Feature added by: Jakub Talas (jtalas) Feature #309118, revision 1 Title: KDE: set default desktop as Folder view on ~/Desktop openSUSE-11.3: Unconfirmed Priority Requester: Desirable Requested by: Jakub Talas (jtalas) Description: Instead of widget with this view, people are get used to (from Gnome, Windows as well as older KDE versions) to have icons on desktop without widget. This default setting doesn't affect possibility for users to add own widgets on desktop. -- openSUSE Feature: https://features.opensuse.org/309118

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[New: openFATE 309119] Alex_suse
by fate_noreply＠suse.de 04 Nov '10

04 Nov '10

Feature added by: alex ruber (fishermann) Feature #309119, revision 1 Title: Alex_suse openSUSE-11.3: Unconfirmed Priority Requester: Important Requested by: alex ruber (fishermann) Description: test try -- openSUSE Feature: https://features.opensuse.org/309119

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[New: openFATE 308620] Don't remove yast
by fate_noreply＠suse.de 04 Nov '10

04 Nov '10

Feature added by: Agustin Chavarria (dj_ubun_1) Feature #308620, revision 1 Title: Don't remove yast openSUSE-11.3: Unconfirmed Priority Requester: Mandatory Requested by: Agustin Chavarria (dj_ubun_1) Description: All of modules of yast are important, all of users of opensuse need yast, opensuse is a distribution to ordinary people, not geeks and Linux users. the yast is what makes good and enviable opensuse with other distributions. -- openSUSE Feature: https://features.opensuse.org/308620

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