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[openFATE 303793] Mount /var/run as tmpfs
by fate_noreply＠suse.de 04 Nov '10

04 Nov '10

Feature changed by: Andreas Jaeger (a_jaeger) Feature #303793, revision 59 Title: Mount /var/run as tmpfs openSUSE-11.2: Rejected by Matthias Eckermann (mge1512) reject date: 2009-07-16 11:42:53 reject reason: Rejected on request of Engineering. Priority Requester: Mandatory Projectmanager: Important openSUSE-11.3: Rejected by Andreas Jaeger (a_jaeger) reject date: 2010-10-06 16:02:09 reject reason: not done. Priority Requester: Mandatory Projectmanager: Important - openSUSE-11.4: New + openSUSE-11.4: Done Priority Requester: Mandatory Requested by: Kay Sievers (kay_sievers) Developer: (Novell) Description: /var/run should be mounted as tmpfs. This would avoid the cleaning of stale files or sockets on bootup and avoid atime updates of any mounted filesystems. This is required for eg powermanagement, which currently wakes up the system from any idle states for a socket operation. Services must be modified not to depend on a preexisting content in /var/run upon startup. RPMs must be modified to not place anything there. Discussion: #2: Federico Lucifredi (flucifredi) (2008-07-08 19:30:23) somehow SLES/SLED got out of sync here. Matching. #4: Duncan Mac-Vicar (dmacvicar) (2008-07-14 15:30:03) There are no resources for this feature. Please postpone, (as agreed with MgE) #5: Duncan Mac-Vicar (dmacvicar) (2008-07-14 15:46:55) Just as a side note this feature will require an effort of aprox. 1 week, together with #303810 (they averlap about 95%) #10: Arvin Schnell (aschnell) (2009-02-04 10:50:32) Any requirements on the size for the tmpfs or should the default of tmpfs be used? #11: Arvin Schnell (aschnell) (2009-02-05 19:27:03) (reply to #10) Kay replied by personal mail: Size doesn't matter. /var/lock should also be on tmpfs. #12: Duncan Mac-Vicar (dmacvicar) (2009-06-02 11:22:49) Christoph, please reject with openSUSE 11.2, because disk encryption we can't promise this feature for 11.2. It may get done as bonus if encryption gets done earlier than expected, but we can't commit to it (which is what rejection means, which does not mean we may work on it). It is the next thing we will work on after encryption support. #32: Dirk Mueller (dirkmueller) (2010-04-26 12:08:04) rpmlint check implemented (badness 900) #35: Duncan Mac-Vicar (dmacvicar) (2010-11-03 15:50:03) Kay, is this still feature desired now with relatime as default? or can be closed forever? #36: Kay Sievers (kay_sievers) (2010-11-03 18:52:22) (reply to #35) It is a good feature to have, because we don't want to cleanup the dir on bootup. Systemd has this mandatory and you can't even disable it. #37: Andreas Jaeger (a_jaeger) (2010-11-04 09:24:36) (reply to #35) This feature is done with using systemd. The scripts mount /var/run already and packages get fixed. I don't think any changes in YaST are needed, so I guess this can be marked as done. Duncan, please check for YaST work - and if none is needed, mark as done. #38: Arvin Schnell (aschnell) (2010-11-04 12:02:02) (reply to #37) When systemd mounts it and no entry in fstab is desired the feature is done from my side. I'm sure the mounting happens after potentially mounting /var. -- openSUSE Feature: https://features.opensuse.org/303793

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[openFATE 303793] Mount /var/run as tmpfs
by fate_noreply＠suse.de 04 Nov '10

04 Nov '10

Feature changed by: Arvin Schnell (aschnell) Feature #303793, revision 58 Title: Mount /var/run as tmpfs openSUSE-11.2: Rejected by Matthias Eckermann (mge1512) reject date: 2009-07-16 11:42:53 reject reason: Rejected on request of Engineering. Priority Requester: Mandatory Projectmanager: Important openSUSE-11.3: Rejected by Andreas Jaeger (a_jaeger) reject date: 2010-10-06 16:02:09 reject reason: not done. Priority Requester: Mandatory Projectmanager: Important openSUSE-11.4: New Priority Requester: Mandatory Requested by: Kay Sievers (kay_sievers) Developer: (Novell) Description: /var/run should be mounted as tmpfs. This would avoid the cleaning of stale files or sockets on bootup and avoid atime updates of any mounted filesystems. This is required for eg powermanagement, which currently wakes up the system from any idle states for a socket operation. Services must be modified not to depend on a preexisting content in /var/run upon startup. RPMs must be modified to not place anything there. Discussion: #2: Federico Lucifredi (flucifredi) (2008-07-08 19:30:23) somehow SLES/SLED got out of sync here. Matching. #4: Duncan Mac-Vicar (dmacvicar) (2008-07-14 15:30:03) There are no resources for this feature. Please postpone, (as agreed with MgE) #5: Duncan Mac-Vicar (dmacvicar) (2008-07-14 15:46:55) Just as a side note this feature will require an effort of aprox. 1 week, together with #303810 (they averlap about 95%) #10: Arvin Schnell (aschnell) (2009-02-04 10:50:32) Any requirements on the size for the tmpfs or should the default of tmpfs be used? #11: Arvin Schnell (aschnell) (2009-02-05 19:27:03) (reply to #10) Kay replied by personal mail: Size doesn't matter. /var/lock should also be on tmpfs. #12: Duncan Mac-Vicar (dmacvicar) (2009-06-02 11:22:49) Christoph, please reject with openSUSE 11.2, because disk encryption we can't promise this feature for 11.2. It may get done as bonus if encryption gets done earlier than expected, but we can't commit to it (which is what rejection means, which does not mean we may work on it). It is the next thing we will work on after encryption support. #32: Dirk Mueller (dirkmueller) (2010-04-26 12:08:04) rpmlint check implemented (badness 900) #35: Duncan Mac-Vicar (dmacvicar) (2010-11-03 15:50:03) Kay, is this still feature desired now with relatime as default? or can be closed forever? #36: Kay Sievers (kay_sievers) (2010-11-03 18:52:22) (reply to #35) It is a good feature to have, because we don't want to cleanup the dir on bootup. Systemd has this mandatory and you can't even disable it. #37: Andreas Jaeger (a_jaeger) (2010-11-04 09:24:36) (reply to #35) This feature is done with using systemd. The scripts mount /var/run already and packages get fixed. I don't think any changes in YaST are needed, so I guess this can be marked as done. Duncan, please check for YaST work - and if none is needed, mark as done. + #38: Arvin Schnell (aschnell) (2010-11-04 12:02:02) (reply to #37) + When systemd mounts it and no entry in fstab is desired the feature is + done from my side. + I'm sure the mounting happens after potentially mounting /var. -- openSUSE Feature: https://features.opensuse.org/303793

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[openFATE 303793] Mount /var/run as tmpfs
by fate_noreply＠suse.de 04 Nov '10

04 Nov '10

Feature changed by: Andreas Jaeger (a_jaeger) Feature #303793, revision 57 Title: Mount /var/run as tmpfs openSUSE-11.2: Rejected by Matthias Eckermann (mge1512) reject date: 2009-07-16 11:42:53 reject reason: Rejected on request of Engineering. Priority Requester: Mandatory Projectmanager: Important openSUSE-11.3: Rejected by Andreas Jaeger (a_jaeger) reject date: 2010-10-06 16:02:09 reject reason: not done. Priority Requester: Mandatory Projectmanager: Important openSUSE-11.4: New Priority Requester: Mandatory - Info Provider: (Novell) Requested by: Kay Sievers (kay_sievers) Developer: (Novell) Description: /var/run should be mounted as tmpfs. This would avoid the cleaning of stale files or sockets on bootup and avoid atime updates of any mounted filesystems. This is required for eg powermanagement, which currently wakes up the system from any idle states for a socket operation. Services must be modified not to depend on a preexisting content in /var/run upon startup. RPMs must be modified to not place anything there. Discussion: #2: Federico Lucifredi (flucifredi) (2008-07-08 19:30:23) somehow SLES/SLED got out of sync here. Matching. #4: Duncan Mac-Vicar (dmacvicar) (2008-07-14 15:30:03) There are no resources for this feature. Please postpone, (as agreed with MgE) #5: Duncan Mac-Vicar (dmacvicar) (2008-07-14 15:46:55) Just as a side note this feature will require an effort of aprox. 1 week, together with #303810 (they averlap about 95%) #10: Arvin Schnell (aschnell) (2009-02-04 10:50:32) Any requirements on the size for the tmpfs or should the default of tmpfs be used? #11: Arvin Schnell (aschnell) (2009-02-05 19:27:03) (reply to #10) Kay replied by personal mail: Size doesn't matter. /var/lock should also be on tmpfs. #12: Duncan Mac-Vicar (dmacvicar) (2009-06-02 11:22:49) Christoph, please reject with openSUSE 11.2, because disk encryption we can't promise this feature for 11.2. It may get done as bonus if encryption gets done earlier than expected, but we can't commit to it (which is what rejection means, which does not mean we may work on it). It is the next thing we will work on after encryption support. #32: Dirk Mueller (dirkmueller) (2010-04-26 12:08:04) rpmlint check implemented (badness 900) #35: Duncan Mac-Vicar (dmacvicar) (2010-11-03 15:50:03) Kay, is this still feature desired now with relatime as default? or can be closed forever? #36: Kay Sievers (kay_sievers) (2010-11-03 18:52:22) (reply to #35) It is a good feature to have, because we don't want to cleanup the dir on bootup. Systemd has this mandatory and you can't even disable it. + #37: Andreas Jaeger (a_jaeger) (2010-11-04 09:24:36) (reply to #35) + This feature is done with using systemd. The scripts mount /var/run + already and packages get fixed. I don't think any changes in YaST are + needed, so I guess this can be marked as done. Duncan, please check for + YaST work - and if none is needed, mark as done. -- openSUSE Feature: https://features.opensuse.org/303793

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[openFATE 303793] Mount /var/run as tmpfs
by fate_noreply＠suse.de 03 Nov '10

03 Nov '10

Feature changed by: Kay Sievers (kay_sievers) Feature #303793, revision 56 Title: Mount /var/run as tmpfs openSUSE-11.2: Rejected by Matthias Eckermann (mge1512) reject date: 2009-07-16 11:42:53 reject reason: Rejected on request of Engineering. Priority Requester: Mandatory Projectmanager: Important openSUSE-11.3: Rejected by Andreas Jaeger (a_jaeger) reject date: 2010-10-06 16:02:09 reject reason: not done. Priority Requester: Mandatory Projectmanager: Important openSUSE-11.4: New Priority Requester: Mandatory Info Provider: (Novell) Requested by: Kay Sievers (kay_sievers) Developer: (Novell) Description: /var/run should be mounted as tmpfs. This would avoid the cleaning of stale files or sockets on bootup and avoid atime updates of any mounted filesystems. This is required for eg powermanagement, which currently wakes up the system from any idle states for a socket operation. Services must be modified not to depend on a preexisting content in /var/run upon startup. RPMs must be modified to not place anything there. Discussion: #2: Federico Lucifredi (flucifredi) (2008-07-08 19:30:23) somehow SLES/SLED got out of sync here. Matching. #4: Duncan Mac-Vicar (dmacvicar) (2008-07-14 15:30:03) There are no resources for this feature. Please postpone, (as agreed with MgE) #5: Duncan Mac-Vicar (dmacvicar) (2008-07-14 15:46:55) Just as a side note this feature will require an effort of aprox. 1 week, together with #303810 (they averlap about 95%) #10: Arvin Schnell (aschnell) (2009-02-04 10:50:32) Any requirements on the size for the tmpfs or should the default of tmpfs be used? #11: Arvin Schnell (aschnell) (2009-02-05 19:27:03) (reply to #10) Kay replied by personal mail: Size doesn't matter. /var/lock should also be on tmpfs. #12: Duncan Mac-Vicar (dmacvicar) (2009-06-02 11:22:49) Christoph, please reject with openSUSE 11.2, because disk encryption we can't promise this feature for 11.2. It may get done as bonus if encryption gets done earlier than expected, but we can't commit to it (which is what rejection means, which does not mean we may work on it). It is the next thing we will work on after encryption support. #32: Dirk Mueller (dirkmueller) (2010-04-26 12:08:04) rpmlint check implemented (badness 900) #35: Duncan Mac-Vicar (dmacvicar) (2010-11-03 15:50:03) Kay, is this still feature desired now with relatime as default? or can be closed forever? + #36: Kay Sievers (kay_sievers) (2010-11-03 18:52:22) (reply to #35) + It is a good feature to have, because we don't want to cleanup the dir + on bootup. + Systemd has this mandatory and you can't even disable it. -- openSUSE Feature: https://features.opensuse.org/303793

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[openFATE 303793] Mount /var/run as tmpfs
by fate_noreply＠suse.de 03 Nov '10

03 Nov '10

Feature changed by: Duncan Mac-Vicar (dmacvicar) Feature #303793, revision 55 Title: Mount /var/run as tmpfs openSUSE-11.2: Rejected by Matthias Eckermann (mge1512) reject date: 2009-07-16 11:42:53 reject reason: Rejected on request of Engineering. Priority Requester: Mandatory Projectmanager: Important - openSUSE-11.3: Rejected by (a_jaeger) + openSUSE-11.3: Rejected by Andreas Jaeger (a_jaeger) reject date: 2010-10-06 16:02:09 reject reason: not done. Priority Requester: Mandatory Projectmanager: Important openSUSE-11.4: New Priority Requester: Mandatory + Info Provider: (Novell) Requested by: Kay Sievers (kay_sievers) Developer: (Novell) Description: /var/run should be mounted as tmpfs. This would avoid the cleaning of stale files or sockets on bootup and avoid atime updates of any mounted filesystems. This is required for eg powermanagement, which currently wakes up the system from any idle states for a socket operation. Services must be modified not to depend on a preexisting content in /var/run upon startup. RPMs must be modified to not place anything there. Discussion: #2: Federico Lucifredi (flucifredi) (2008-07-08 19:30:23) somehow SLES/SLED got out of sync here. Matching. #4: Duncan Mac-Vicar (dmacvicar) (2008-07-14 15:30:03) There are no resources for this feature. Please postpone, (as agreed with MgE) #5: Duncan Mac-Vicar (dmacvicar) (2008-07-14 15:46:55) Just as a side note this feature will require an effort of aprox. 1 week, together with #303810 (they averlap about 95%) #10: Arvin Schnell (aschnell) (2009-02-04 10:50:32) Any requirements on the size for the tmpfs or should the default of tmpfs be used? #11: Arvin Schnell (aschnell) (2009-02-05 19:27:03) (reply to #10) Kay replied by personal mail: Size doesn't matter. /var/lock should also be on tmpfs. #12: Duncan Mac-Vicar (dmacvicar) (2009-06-02 11:22:49) Christoph, please reject with openSUSE 11.2, because disk encryption we can't promise this feature for 11.2. It may get done as bonus if encryption gets done earlier than expected, but we can't commit to it (which is what rejection means, which does not mean we may work on it). It is the next thing we will work on after encryption support. #32: Dirk Mueller (dirkmueller) (2010-04-26 12:08:04) rpmlint check implemented (badness 900) + #35: Duncan Mac-Vicar (dmacvicar) (2010-11-03 15:50:03) + Kay, is this still feature desired now with relatime as default? or can + be closed forever? -- openSUSE Feature: https://features.opensuse.org/303793

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