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Fwd: minutes of the mini distro summit held at GSoC meeting
by Pavol Rusnak 02 Nov '09

02 Nov '09

Hi! I'm not sure if you follow "distributions" mailing list, so I'm forwarding here. Interesting parts are Debian patch-tracker (already mentioned by Henne) and Patch tagging (vuntz created a concept in the past, but wasn't accepted outside GNOME community, we can discuss the Debian proposal as it will be probably accepted in Ubuntu and Fedora too ...) -------- Original Message -------- Subject: minutes of the mini distro summit held at GSoC meeting Date: Sun, 1 Nov 2009 23:16:21 +0100 From: Stefano Zacchiroli <zack(a)debian.org> To: distributions(a)lists.freedesktop.org Hi all, I've participated at the Google Summer of Code Mentor Summit the last week, together with various folks from different distro. Thanks to an initiative by Donnie Berkholz (Gentoo), we had there a mini distribution summit, where several distributions were represented. I'm reporting below the minutes of the meeting kindly taken by Sylvestre Ledru (Debian). A couple of additional _personal_ notes of mine, that I believe might interest the public of this list, are as follows: - at the beginning of the session it was reminded about this list, encouraging all people there to use it more, especially to ask advices on how "something" is done in other distro and also how to better coordinate with specific upstream - the page http://distributions.freedesktop.org/wiki/DistributionLocations on our wiki has been updated by most of us. For what concerns Debian, I've updated it with an important pointer to the now official website http://patch-tracker.debian.org , which let everybody knows which changes wrt upstream has been performed in a given Debian package - I've mentioned DEP3 (http://dep.debian.net/deps/dep3/) an initiative close to be formally accepted in Debian to tag patches with various metadata (e.g. where it comes from, but also whether it has been pushed upstream or not). That format is going to be accepted in Ubuntu too; during the mini summit, people from Fedora expressed interest in adopting it as well. I personally believe it can be a sound basis to uniform patch tagging across distributions. That's all, minutes follow (copy/paste from a printable mediawiki page, still readable, I hope :)). ----------------------------------------------------- Linux distribution mini-summit >From Google Summer of Code Mentor Wiki Jump to: navigation, search Contents [hide] * 1 Distributions present * 2 Minutes o 2.1 Cross-distro discussions o 2.2 Patch management o 2.3 Relationship with upstream o 2.4 Abstraction on package names o 2.5 Compatibility on the startup script o 2.6 How to handle packages on a daily basis [edit] Distributions present * Debian - 6 Debian contributors * Gentoo - 2 Gentoo contributors * Fedora - 2 Fedora contributors * Chaos - 1 contributor [edit] Minutes [edit] Cross-distro discussions Reminder for everybody, we do have a list!: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/distributions . It is the appropriate place to discuss cross-distro topics (packaging, design, issues with specific upstream, ...) [edit] Patch management Discussion around the patch systems. How collaborate with other distributions and exchange patches to avoid duplicate work. Most distributions list their patch-tracking systems on the freedesktop wiki DistributionLocations page. Example of Debian: http://patch-tracker.debian.org Discussion on Debian / Ubuntu relationship. How these two distributions handle packages and patches exchanges. [edit] Relationship with upstream Success on building relationships with upstream Having the main developer subscribed on the distribution bugtracker. Example of a Scilab core developer who has to go from time to time on all bugtrackers / patch management systems to see patches which could be merged upstream [edit] Abstraction on package names Dirk: Example with CRAN (R packaging system). Each R package contains a description file. This file describes the binary dependencies. Example: postgresql will match libpq5 under Debian How to handle relations with distributions of this. How to generalize this [edit] Compatibility on the startup script Discussion on the services / init.d management / invoke-rc.d Example: Differences with Apache under Fedora / Debian Cross-distribution package mapping through a database ? Package map by Sebastien Pipping: http://git.goodpoint.de/?p=packagemap.git;a=summary [edit] How to handle packages on a daily basis How Fedora handles packages. SVN for spec files + patches and upstream tarballs stored in different places. Using git for packaging. Example of Debian Some packaging projects (x.org for example) use the same git repositories as upstream How to track patches and, more generally, how to associate common metadata with them. Example of Debian: http://dep.debian.net/deps/dep3/ Donnie points out "git note" which enables adding information related to a file. Proposal to continue this on the FOSDEM -- Stefano Zacchiroli -o- PhD in Computer Science \ PostDoc @ Univ. Paris 7 zack(a){upsilon.cc,pps.jussieu.fr,debian.org} -<>- http://upsilon.cc/zack/ Dietro un grande uomo c'è ..| . |. Et ne m'en veux pas si je te tutoie sempre uno zaino ...........| ..: |.... Je dis tu à tous ceux que j'aime

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work report kw44 wstephenson
by Will Stephenson 02 Nov '09

02 Nov '09

[GREEN] - Fixed bko#201993 - wrong wireless security type preselected - NetworkManager applet dbus policy troubleshooting and fix - Stopped showing Connect To Other Wireless dialog for !wireless interfaces - Ran #opensuse-kde team meeting - KDE bug triage - Setup development BS instance - 1-1 with Klaas -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-boosters+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-boosters+help(a)opensuse.org

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week 2009#44
by Thomas Schmidt 02 Nov '09

02 Nov '09

OBS Webclient: - new in place login - fix redirection - Sponsors Box - Re-surrect staging system https://build.opensuse.org/stage - Enable web statistics for webclient: http://buildserviceapi.suse.de/webalizer/webclient/ - Start using memcached, currently only for userdata - Set up exceptionnotifier to mail exceptions SUSE Studio: - Help fixing problem with mod_upload_progress -- Thomas Schmidt (tom [at] opensuse.org) openSUSE Boosters Team "Don't Panic", Douglas Adams (1952 - 11.05.2001) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-boosters+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-boosters+help(a)opensuse.org

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work report llunak kw42,43,44
by Lubos Lunak 02 Nov '09

02 Nov '09

[GREEN] - fixed 11.1->11.2 upgrades to not keep KDE3 as the desktop (bnc#529955) - all remaining big OOo KDE4 integration problems like bnc#529640 should be now handled - bnc#536545, avoiding excessive I/O seeks on livecd, broke defaults, reverted that for 11.2, will do properly later - fixed the UI for changing xdg-user-dirs locations introduced with 11.2 to work properly for those who don't want them (bnc#543775) - openSUSE KDE IRC meeting - created pages describing status of KDE3 and the KDE4 version for 11.2 - collected and created KDE 11.2 release notes - testing, bugreport reviewing etc. - in general it looks like KDE for 11.2 should be now ok - sailing in Croatia was great [THIS WEEK] - catch up - finally hopefully have time for the wiki stuff -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-boosters+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-boosters+help(a)opensuse.org

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Werk verslag
by Henne Vogelsang 02 Nov '09

02 Nov '09

Hi, what i... ..did: - move conference.o.o content to the wiki - try out the different wikipedia portal templates - sprint meeting - orphaned packages discussion was brought to an end. Now the real work of handing over packages begins. - played with the stage wiki - board strategy meeting - as i found an empty room opposite of my new office i started migration of lists.o.o to a new machine and to SLE11. - read about and talked to pascal about the FOSDEM cross-distribution devroom - L3/Maintenance - the usual meetings ..plan to do: - hand off orphaned packages - talk to people about the FOSDEM mini distribution devroom - L3/Maintenance ...encountered as blocker: n/a Henne -- Henne Vogelsang, openSUSE. Everybody has a plan, until they get hit. - Mike Tyson -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-boosters+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-boosters+help(a)opensuse.org

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work report mhrusecky kw44
by Michal Hrusecky 02 Nov '09

02 Nov '09

[green] - working on bnc#546921 - working on MySQL Worknbench 5.2 - polishing MySQL -- Michal HRUSECKY SUSE LINUX, s.r.o openSUSE Boosters Team Lihovarska 1060/12 PGP 0xFED656F6 19000 Praha 9 mhrusecky[at]suse.cz Czech Republic http://michal.hrusecky.net http://www.suse.cz -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-boosters+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-boosters+help(a)opensuse.org

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[factory.o.o] New debian patch tracker
by Henne Vogelsang 02 Nov '09

02 Nov '09

Hey, did you guys see the new debian patch tracker? http://patch-tracker.debian.org/ Can we have something like this for factory.o.o? :) Henne -- Henne Vogelsang, openSUSE. Everybody has a plan, until they get hit. - Mike Tyson -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-boosters+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-boosters+help(a)opensuse.org

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work report coolo kw44
by Stephan Kulow 02 Nov '09

02 Nov '09

[amber] - we're lacking the "Oh my god! We can't release this way!!!" blocker bug yet. It should appear any minute now as the release date is less than 10 days away. - marketing/PM got the idea to have a x86_64 promo dvd _now_, but they offered "Geld, Drogen und Frauen" so I was convinced. My wife said I should pick one though - she didn't say which though. [green] - after several months of pinging, I fixed the kiwi instsource bug myself - after several months of pinging, I didn't leave Adrian's office before the localworker failed for missing meta packages - debugged with mls and adrian why our 11.2 media would magically not find packages - added x86_64 to promo dvd - fixed my first webclient bug :) - reviewed package submissions, reviewed bugzilla - updated moneyplex package from matrica - spent considerable chatting with Peter about all the dirty details, got root access to widehat and mirrordb - worked on the package translations. We have now at least the bare minimum (some summaries). -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-boosters+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-boosters+help(a)opensuse.org

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Work report 2009#44
by Vincent Untz 02 Nov '09

02 Nov '09

(still wondering how to make the subject for my work report mails sexy) What I did last week: - came back from vacation on Tuesday (and I had Thursday off) - started catching up with mails - 1-to-1 with Klaas - also had a good chat about hermes with Klaas - released GNOME 2.29.1 - caught up with GNOME Foundation Board life - bug triage/closing What I plan to do this week: - some GNOME Release Team action (we had a meeting yesterday about 2.29/2.30; need to ping people, announce stuff) - some GNOME Foundation action (we had a meeting last Thursday, so I have some new action items) - work with the openSUSE GNOME team on a plan for first round of updates on 11.2 - take a closer look at hermes code to see if I can easily add a new method (opening an url instead of outputting a mail or rss feed) - hopefully finally start writing code to abuse hermes for build service data cache What has been annoying me: - a bit worried about the number of bugs that got opened after both RCs. Those are bugs that should have been reported earlier :/ Vincent -- Les gens heureux ne sont pas pressés. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-boosters+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-boosters+help(a)opensuse.org

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Navboxify your stuff!
by Federico Mena Quintero 30 Oct '09

30 Oct '09

Humans from Earth, Please look at http://en.opensuse.org/Category:Navboxes for sample markup to create navigation boxes in the wiki, and think of which sections of the wiki you know best. Were you a YaST hacker in a former life? Or an OBS hacker? Or a pointy-haired porcupine? Feel free to steal the example markup provided in that page, and create a navbox suitable to the topics you know best. This will help us get the wiki more organized, and more navigable. Navigable. Navigatable. However pirates say it. Arrrrrrrr! Federico -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-boosters+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-boosters+help(a)opensuse.org

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