March 2011 - openSUSE Boosters - openSUSE Mailing Lists

Threads in hermes mails
by Vincent Untz 14 May '11

14 May '11

Hey, I love hermes mails, but I would love them even more if the mails for one request where all grouped in a thread. So here's my completely untested attempt for this (and I'm not sure I'm still fluent in perl, so there might be some stupid errors). Is there any way to easily test this kind of things? Cheers, Vincent -- Les gens heureux ne sont pas pressés.

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ambassador program
by Jos Poortvliet 06 Apr '11

06 Apr '11

Hey marketing team, Based on our IRC discussion yesterday a more extensive proposal, connected to the mail I just send to the boosters with you in CC: Our ambassadors are often local (many don't even speak English, or barely); so what we do with/for them has to be translatable, easy to read or in their hands. They often spend not a huge amount of time on openSUSE; so what we do for/with them should not take much time. And the fact they are ambassador gives them some credibility; so we should make that clear. Currently, we have an ambassador mailinglist. Some ambassadors are on there; many are not (like most of the active people in Brazil or Greece - despite those countries being among the most active for us, as far as we know). They usually have a local mailinglist (not on openSUSE infrastructure) which they use for planning and discussing. First, I would like to propose to bring such mailinglists to openSUSE infrastructure. That means - let ambassadors ask for a language/region specific mailinglist. Not too many rules, if they feel they need one for something, give it. But there should be one limitation: at least one or two active people on that list should be on the international ambassador mailinglist; and we need a one-way, moderated mailinglist to reach ALL ambassador lists at once for things that concern everybody. Second, let them create a localized ambassador team page on the wiki (or on connect.opensuse.org, dunno what makes most sense). Actually, it'd be great if they had an English page which is translated - so each team (the Greek team, Brazil team etc) has a page on the wiki; and it is translated in their language(s). They can have links there to the mailinglist and the forum place they hang out, as well as their IRC channel(s). This will allow countries/regions to build their own team. Yet, due to the requirement of having 1-2 ppl on the international list, we are connected. Now we need to make sure there is communication as much as possible. The ambassadors should get the word out on what they do - that's what the ambassador report stuff is for, which I mailed to the Boosters team. I hope we can make that happen. Cheers, Jos

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Proposal for Building, Managing Code Testing Ecosystem
by Tony Su 01 Apr '11

01 Apr '11

Hello Group, I was informed that this was the best place to submit a rather large and potentially influential openSUSE project. Through Bryen and the openSUSE marketing group, I came to understand that a call for Users willing to test code has been made. Along with one other in that group and considering my ongoing participation in the openSUSE Technical Help forums, the two of us are proposing building a state of art ecosystem of Users willing to test and assist in developing Code. Please take a few minutes to read the proposal I've posted at the following URL, the website is set to be accessible only by those who know the URL (it's not supposed to be publicly searchable) and although it's visible anonymously, editing requires logging in with a Google account. https://sites.google.com/site/projectcodedev/ Do be forthright with any opinion about the proposed Project, myself and anything else, I will take any comment constructively and after many years have seen and experienced just about anything that can and has been said in unmoderated as well as moderated forums. If the Proposal is deemed unsupportable, I might be disappointed but can accept that as well. :) Thank you, Tony Su -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-boosters+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-boosters+help(a)opensuse.org

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ambassador reports
by Jos Poortvliet 01 Apr '11

01 Apr '11

Hi boosters, The marketing team has been brainstorming on how to give ambassadors a tad more attention in openSUSE; motivate them to make a bit more noise; and reward them for what they do. Now we have a few ideas, but for one, we thought it might make sense to use connect. Yes, it could probably be done via the wiki and other ways but I know you guys have a hammer and might see this as a nail :D *what is the problem* the ambassadors _sometimes_ create event reports. We want those reports for several reasons: - to have an idea of what they are doing - to measure how much we do - to motivate others - to SHOW what we do Unfortunately, not so many event reports are made although we're fairly sure many events have openSUSE attendance. This is due to several issues. *First*, not all ambassadors are so connected to us - many are not 'official ambassador' or their English skills are minimal and they are not internationally involved. I will send a follow-up mail with ideas on how to solve that. *Second*, filling in an event report on the wiki is not exactly easy for many. Some send one by mail - which is fine but leaves little record. *Third*, the reports receive little visibility. They are mentioned somewhere in the weekly news if you're lucky and of course on the marketing ML, but that's it pretty much. Numbers in it are not saved, we don't realy do anything with it as there is no real easy record. *The solution?* Ideally, the reports would end up in a central place, some database... And ideally, they would be connected to the ambassadors - so they can build up a trackrecord of events they have visited. Once we have this we can also show reports on eg news.o.o in a feed box on the side for example, or on our homepage. We can analyze and use statistics (for promo), promote events, do monthly articles - all kinds of things. We have an events page on en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Ambassador_events which suffers from similar issues - most people don't create a page because it is not easy and not localized. *connect.o.o* In short. We wonder - would Connect not offer a much better way of handeling events, event reports and the like? Would it not offer a better place for ambassador user accounts (with associated event reports as track records)? Culd it offer an easy place for ambassadors to add info for an event and afterwards add a report & pictures which we can then display in the planet feed (localized, if needed)? In case you think this is relevant, chuck and manu might have some time to help with this both in 'how to do it' (I would also love to think abou that) and the doing itself. Cheers, Jos

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Re: Fw: [opensuse-boosters] Proposal for Building, Managing Code Testing Ecosystem
by Bernhard M. Wiedemann 30 Mar '11

30 Mar '11

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 > Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2011 10:47:59 -0700 > From: Tony Su <tonysu(a)su-networking.com> > To: opensuse-boosters(a)opensuse.org > Subject: [opensuse-boosters] Proposal for Building, Managing Code > Testing Ecosystem > > > Hello Group, > > I was informed that this was the best place to submit a rather large > and potentially influential openSUSE project. > > Through Bryen and the openSUSE marketing group, I came to understand > that a call for Users willing to test code has been made. > > Along with one other in that group and considering my ongoing > participation in the openSUSE Technical Help forums, the two of us are > proposing building a state of art ecosystem of Users willing to test > and assist in developing Code. > > Please take a few minutes to read the proposal I've posted at the > following URL, the website is set to be accessible only by those who > know the URL (it's not supposed to be publicly searchable) and > although it's visible anonymously, editing requires logging in with a > Google account. > > https://sites.google.com/site/projectcodedev/ > > Do be forthright with any opinion about the proposed Project, myself > and anything else, I will take any comment constructively and after > many years have seen and experienced just about anything that can and > has been said in unmoderated as well as moderated forums. If the > Proposal is deemed unsupportable, I might be disappointed but can > accept that as well. > > :) > > Thank you, > Tony Su Hi, I have been driving quite some part of the testing efforts for 11.4 (sometimes jokingly calling myself "HobbyQA") In particular, I created http://openqa.opensuse.org/ on a dedicated machine in Nuremberg (because it needs hardware virt and plenty resources). This helps a lot to auto-maintain the factory-tested repo as something that will not be arbitrarily broken and thus is better suited for human testers than openSUSE-Factory. for testing coordination/communication there is atm the ML http://lists.opensuse.org/archive/opensuse-testing/ and wiki http://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Testing and IRC meetings http://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Testing_meeting and the new social thingy: https://connect.opensuse.org//pg/groups/12174/opensuse-testers/ in principle, there is also testopia on bugzilla.novell.com, but until now it was not really put to good use - possibly because of certain shortcomings in the setup which we can not influence. I read most of the proposal pages and was thinking, that Linux Distributions do not do "Waterfall" model much, because there are a) rarely detailed specs upfront, b) design often happens as needed during implementation, c) verification is rarely comprehensive or specific to new code d) there are several pre-releases allowing for feedback and subsequent improvements (even Factory(-tested) providing daily updates) of course, distributions also mainly consist of upstream project code with their own devel/release cycles and methods. However, some way to better coodinate testers and testing would be nice. Giving credits and/or rewards to testers is also a good thing to do. And there is more room for improvement. Ciao Bernhard M. - -- you have to know your goal for it makes it much easier to reach -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.16 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAk2R40oACgkQSTYLOx37oWRlkwCbBZc/fgUxJDvAa9e+5j8AjXBt 6rAAoMSwq+fBXvT3Fh4EWtVqPUhIVzg2 =ELSM -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-boosters+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-boosters+help(a)opensuse.org

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Week report 2011#12
by Vincent Untz 29 Mar '11

29 Mar '11

Hey, What I did last week; - went to the 11.4 launch event in France; everything went well, thanks to the people who organized it (not me :-)) - got 2 linuxtag talks accepted - GSoC administration (replying to students, mostly) - submitted 2 talks to desktop summit - hacked days and nights for GNOME 3; forgot to sleep... What I'm doing this week: - GNOME 3 release hackfest in Bangalore, where we're polishing everything for the release next week - GNOME.Asia conference, where I'll deliver 3 talks Vincent -- Les gens heureux ne sont pas pressés. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-boosters+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-boosters+help(a)opensuse.org

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work report wstephenson kw 12
by Will Stephenson 29 Mar '11

29 Mar '11

[What I did] * package kdelibs4 security update * review and progress pending maintenance updates from community * produce 11.4 KDE DVD image * submit Berlin Desktop Summit talk * catch up * triaged 11.4 bugs * wrote and blogged GSOC proposal [What I plan to do] * L3s * another kdelibs4 security update * Community meetings * Catch up on knetworkmanager upstream development Will -- Will Stephenson, openSUSE Team SUSE LINUX Products GmbH - Nürnberg - AG Nürnberg - HRB 16746 - GF: Markus Rex -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-boosters+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-boosters+help(a)opensuse.org

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work report prusnak cw 12
by Pavol Rusnak 29 Mar '11

29 Mar '11

What I did: * wrote Connect module for exporting members' emails * preparations for 11.4 release party - it went great! blogpost: http://wp.me/pggPv-tp What I plan to do: * poke Packman people about games * start Contrib discussions * talk with Ruby maintainers about pushing gems into Factory -- Best Regards / S pozdravom, Pavol RUSNAK SUSE LINUX, s.r.o openSUSE Boosters Team Lihovarska 1060/12 PGP 0xA6917144 19000 Praha 9 prusnak[at]opensuse.org Czech Republic -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-boosters+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-boosters+help(a)opensuse.org

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work report prusnak cw 12
by Pavol Rusnak 29 Mar '11

29 Mar '11

What I did: * wrote Connect module for exporting members' emails * preparations for 11.4 release party - it went great! blogpost: http://wp.me/pggPv-tp What I plan to do: * poke Packman people about games * start Contrib discussions * talk with Ruby maintainers about pushing gems into Factory -- Best Regards / S pozdravom, Pavol RUSNAK SUSE LINUX, s.r.o openSUSE Boosters Team Lihovarska 1060/12 PGP 0xA6917144 19000 Praha 9 prusnak[at]opensuse.org Czech Republic -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-boosters+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-boosters+help(a)opensuse.org

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Standup 2011-03-28
by Henne Vogelsang 28 Mar '11

28 Mar '11

participants: Henne, Coolo, Michal, Klaas, Will, Tom, Ismail, Christopher, Pavol visitors: AJ ------- General ------- * Betriebsausflug Don't forget to come if you are in Nürnberg! * Ismail joined the team He's currently settling in but already started to work on the milestone and other stuff. ------- Standup ------- name * What did I do in the last sprint? * What do I plan in the next sprint? * What is blocking me? Coolo * came up with a list of people to ask Started out with looking at home projects. But in the moved to people that commit to top-level projects but not contribute to factory (that much) * Work on the interpretation of the results. Work on the devel:languages:perl story * nothing Michal * nothing * nothing * GSoC student handling. Bugzilla work. Organized the 11.4 Prague Release Party Klaas * nothing * nothing * Organized Chemnitzer LinuxTage. Quite large hermes TODO list. GSoC student handling. Will * nothing * pick a story from retro * Maintenance. KDE promo DVD creation. GSoC student handline. Preparation for the Desktop Summit Tom * Created the questionnaire on google spreadsheets. * pick a story from retro * GSoC student handling. Ismail * Created an email template and aent it out to ~50 people. * Work on the devel:languages:python story * GCC 4.6 Bugs, GSoC student handling Christopher * nothing * nothing * Package maintenance. Work on the driver-build binary package selector. GSoC promotion Pavol * Worked on the packman (games) to OBS story * Finish packman (games) to OBS story. Work on the devel:languages:ruby story * Organizing the 11.4 Release Party. Give 2 talks on the release party. Henne * Worked together with Coolo on the list of people, together with Tom on the questionnaire and together with Ismail on the email template. * Work on the interpretation of the results * nothing -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-boosters+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-boosters+help(a)opensuse.org

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