Re[2]: [SLE] Netiquette - (was: Geneology software for Linux)
Hi, I went back and reread the "subscription" notice and 2 items popped up that I thought would be useful but turned out not to be.
From subscription notice: Q4. How can I retrieve the FAQ? A4. Send an email to suse-multimedia-e-faq@suse.com
Q6. Are there archives of the list? A6. Yes, http://lists.suse.com/archive/suse-multimedia-e/ Currently, they are not searchable. The FAQ is not what one would think. It isn't a FAQ that represents the contents of the various topics discussed on this list but rather a FAQ about how to use the list. I'm not sure about the archives either. I clicked on January and there were 64 messages. In February, 8 messages. That doesn't seem right. It would be nice if the archives could be searched and if they truly represented the contents of the email list. The archive appears to be broke, too. I have worked with other lists that provide email keyword search commands. This would be a nice feature to help folks. I did see the email this morning on the unofficial SUSE FAQ. Thanks for asking that question. I'll add, I sometimes visit the Slackware and/or Redhat sites to find information. These sites are very user-friendly --- well organized, books ("Official Guide to Using..., help, etc. I like the SuSe distribution, but I like the other web sites for knowledge. I wish SuSe would take notice and improve their web site, which in turn will help their customers. DJ --------------------------------------------------------------- JM> You said yourself "one should assume that the poster has tried to JM> understand docs and mans" plus the howtos and any other doc. Which JM> is typically what I do when answering people's questions via JM> lists, newsgroups or in person. Even when someone "in the heat of JM> the moment" spells something wrong or uses the wrong term, I make JM> an effort to understand them. I recently spent half an hour JM> talking with someone who kept saying "partition" although they JM> meant filesystem. That didn't stop me from understanding. I'm going to throw a suggestion out --- rather than make assumptions, is there a compiled FAQ for this list? I have had experiences on other list where they would send out the FAQ or a pointer to the FAQ once a month. Just a thought. Perhaps the list-owner could comment. DJ
Hi All,
I'm a little confused by this ...
a) SuExec is designed to protect running cgi.
b) Therefore SuExec's DocRoute should be /usr/local/httpd/cgi-bin ?
So why is it /usr/local/httpd/htdocs on the SuSE compiled version of Apache?
Have I misunderstood somewhere?
I guess its back to the custom compiled Apache for me ...
Paul Miles
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From: "DJ"
Hi,
I went back and reread the "subscription" notice and 2 items popped up that I thought would be useful but turned out not to be.
From subscription notice: Q4. How can I retrieve the FAQ? A4. Send an email to suse-multimedia-e-faq@suse.com
Q6. Are there archives of the list? A6. Yes, http://lists.suse.com/archive/suse-multimedia-e/ Currently, they are not searchable.
The FAQ is not what one would think. It isn't a FAQ that represents the contents of the various topics discussed on this list but rather a FAQ about how to use the list.
I'm not sure about the archives either. I clicked on January and there were 64 messages. In February, 8 messages. That doesn't seem right. It would be nice if the archives could be searched and if they truly represented the contents of the email list. The archive appears to be broke, too.
I have worked with other lists that provide email keyword search commands. This would be a nice feature to help folks.
I did see the email this morning on the unofficial SUSE FAQ. Thanks for asking that question.
I'll add, I sometimes visit the Slackware and/or Redhat sites to find information. These sites are very user-friendly --- well organized, books ("Official Guide to Using..., help, etc. I like the SuSe distribution, but I like the other web sites for knowledge. I wish SuSe would take notice and improve their web site, which in turn will help their customers.
DJ
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JM> You said yourself "one should assume that the poster has tried to JM> understand docs and mans" plus the howtos and any other doc. Which JM> is typically what I do when answering people's questions via JM> lists, newsgroups or in person. Even when someone "in the heat of JM> the moment" spells something wrong or uses the wrong term, I make JM> an effort to understand them. I recently spent half an hour JM> talking with someone who kept saying "partition" although they JM> meant filesystem. That didn't stop me from understanding.
I'm going to throw a suggestion out --- rather than make assumptions, is there a compiled FAQ for this list? I have had experiences on other list where they would send out the FAQ or a pointer to the FAQ once a month.
Just a thought.
Perhaps the list-owner could comment.
DJ
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I know this was discussed once on this list not to long ago but I didn't pay as much attention to it as I should have. I want to install OpenOffice but can't figure out how to install it so that it installs one time and then each user can create their own "mini installations" for their individual accounts. I tried installing as root but couldn't create the account installations. Any suggestions are appreciated. Zach Coming to you live from SuSE Linux
On Sun, 3 Feb 2002, Zach Smith wrote:
I want to install OpenOffice but
The following describes installing StarOffice 6.0beta, perhaps OpenOffice maintains the same system... First: chmod u+x so-6_0-beta-bin-linux-<language>.bin Then for the network installation (as root): ./so-6_0-beta-bin-linux-<language>.bin -net Then as user you can activate the setup as it is explained in the setup document from Sun (setup_guideeng.pdf). -- Ragnar Steingrimsson | Department of Cognitive Sciences UC-Irvine, SSPA 3151 | Email: ragnar@uci.edu Irvine, CA 92697 | Small Green Men
Well, I tried to use the /net and -net parameter and I got this message: glibc version: 2.2.4 Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server Xlib: Client is not authorized to connect to Server ./setup: cannot connect to X server :0.0 I tried installing it from my home directory (/home/zach/tmp/install) using shell and as SU. Now I'm really confused. What's next? Zach Coming to you live from SuSE Linux
On Monday 04 February 2002 01.17, Zach Smith wrote:
Well, I tried to use the /net and -net parameter and I got this message:
glibc version: 2.2.4 Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server Xlib: Client is not authorized to connect to Server ./setup: cannot connect to X server :0.0
I tried installing it from my home directory (/home/zach/tmp/install) using shell and as SU. Now I'm really confused. What's next?
Use sux, not su. sux is "su but with permissions to run X programs" regards Anders
At 15:01 02/03/2002 -0800, Ragnar Steingrimsson wrote:
On Sun, 3 Feb 2002, Zach Smith wrote:
I want to install OpenOffice but
The following describes installing StarOffice 6.0beta, perhaps OpenOffice maintains the same system...
First: chmod u+x so-6_0-beta-bin-linux-<language>.bin
Then for the network installation (as root): ./so-6_0-beta-bin-linux-<language>.bin -net
Then as user you can activate the setup as it is explained in the setup document from Sun (setup_guideeng.pdf).
-- Ragnar Steingrimsson | Department of Cognitive Sciences UC-Irvine, SSPA 3151 | Email: ragnar@uci.edu Irvine, CA 92697 | Small Green Men
I guess I don't understand the question, but I had a preview of the StarOffice 6.0 system at LinuxWorld, NY, a couple of days ago, and it blew my mind. It is really a full-fledged word processor and spread sheet. If it performs like the demo, there is no reason for anyone to use MS Word or even Corel WP. (I like WP in Windows, altho I liked version 5.1 better.) The new SO will not take over your GUI, it will be available as an app, like everything else. SO is a really neat system. They say it will be available in April or May. I did not ask if it will be free, all I asked for was a copy, but I didn't get one. --doug
You may not be able to get the beta of SO 6.0 anymore from sun.com but if anyone wants the same thing they can go to openoffice.org and get build 641c of OpenOffice..it's the samething..actually it's a newer build :) OpenOffice = StarOffice like Mozilla = Netscape if that clears it up a bit. :) * Doug McGarrett (dougmack@i-2000.com) [020203 17:01]: ->At 15:01 02/03/2002 -0800, Ragnar Steingrimsson wrote: ->>On Sun, 3 Feb 2002, Zach Smith wrote: ->> ->> ->>> I want to install OpenOffice but ->> ->>The following describes installing StarOffice 6.0beta, perhaps OpenOffice ->>maintains the same system... ->> ->>First: ->>chmod u+x so-6_0-beta-bin-linux-<language>.bin ->> ->>Then for the network installation (as root): ->>./so-6_0-beta-bin-linux-<language>.bin -net ->> ->>Then as user you can activate the setup as it is explained in the setup ->>document from Sun (setup_guideeng.pdf). ->> ->>-- ->>Ragnar Steingrimsson | Department of Cognitive Sciences ->>UC-Irvine, SSPA 3151 | Email: ragnar@uci.edu ->>Irvine, CA 92697 | Small Green Men ->> -> ->I guess I don't understand the question, but I had a preview of the StarOffice ->6.0 system at LinuxWorld, NY, a couple of days ago, and it blew my mind. ->It is ->really a full-fledged word processor and spread sheet. If it performs like ->the ->demo, there is no reason for anyone to use MS Word or even Corel WP. (I ->like WP ->in Windows, altho I liked version 5.1 better.) The new SO will not take over ->your GUI, it will be available as an app, like everything else. SO is a ->really ->neat system. They say it will be available in April or May. I did not ask if ->it will be free, all I asked for was a copy, but I didn't get one. --doug -> -> -> -> -> -> ->-- ->To unsubscribe send e-mail to suse-linux-e-unsubscribe@suse.com ->For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com ->Also check the FAQ at http://www.suse.com/support/faq and the ->archives at http://lists.suse.com -> -----=====-----=====-----=====-----=====----- Ben Rosenberg mailto:ben@whack.org -----=====-----=====-----=====-----=====----- I'm out of my mind, but feel free to leave a message...
You may not be able to get the beta of SO 6.0 anymore from sun.com but if anyone wants the same thing they can go to openoffice.org and get build 641c of OpenOffice..it's the samething..actually it's a newer build :)
OpenOffice = StarOffice like Mozilla = Netscape if that clears it up a bit. :)
* Doug McGarrett (dougmack@i-2000.com) [020203 17:01]: ->At 15:01 02/03/2002 -0800, Ragnar Steingrimsson wrote: ->>On Sun, 3 Feb 2002, Zach Smith wrote: ->> ->> ->>> I want to install OpenOffice but ->> ->>The following describes installing StarOffice 6.0beta, perhaps OpenOffice ->>maintains the same system... ->> ->>First: ->>chmod u+x so-6_0-beta-bin-linux-<language>.bin ->> ->>Then for the network installation (as root): ->>./so-6_0-beta-bin-linux-<language>.bin -net ->> ->>Then as user you can activate the setup as it is explained in the setup ->>document from Sun (setup_guideeng.pdf). ->> ->>-- ->>Ragnar Steingrimsson | Department of Cognitive Sciences ->>UC-Irvine, SSPA 3151 | Email: ragnar@uci.edu ->>Irvine, CA 92697 | Small Green Men ->> -> ->I guess I don't understand the question, but I had a preview of the StarOffice ->6.0 system at LinuxWorld, NY, a couple of days ago, and it blew my mind. ->It is ->really a full-fledged word processor and spread sheet. If it performs
ifsomeone has the beta so and would share it i would love to get it
oo not worth a penny i downloaded bu8ild 641c and had problems
On Sun, 3 Feb 2002 17:07:57 -0800
Ben Rosenberg
->the ->demo, there is no reason for anyone to use MS Word or even Corel WP. (I ->like WP ->in Windows, altho I liked version 5.1 better.) The new SO will not take over ->your GUI, it will be available as an app, like everything else. SO is a ->really ->neat system. They say it will be available in April or May. I did not ask if ->it will be free, all I asked for was a copy, but I didn't get one. --doug -> -> -> -> -> -> ->-- ->To unsubscribe send e-mail to suse-linux-e-unsubscribe@suse.com ->For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com
->Also check the FAQ at http://www.suse.com/support/faq and the ->archives at http://lists.suse.com ->
-----=====-----=====-----=====-----=====----- Ben Rosenberg mailto:ben@whack.org -----=====-----=====-----=====-----=====----- I'm out of my mind, but feel free to leave a message...
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I installed 641c -net, then installed as a user, but each time I try and start running soffice it just echos aborted. Any Ideas? Phil On Monday 04 February 2002 1:07 am, Ben Rosenberg wrote:
You may not be able to get the beta of SO 6.0 anymore from sun.com but if anyone wants the same thing they can go to openoffice.org and get build 641c of OpenOffice..it's the samething..actually it's a newer build :)
OpenOffice = StarOffice like Mozilla = Netscape if that clears it up a bit. :)
* Doug McGarrett (dougmack@i-2000.com) [020203 17:01]: ->At 15:01 02/03/2002 -0800, Ragnar Steingrimsson wrote: ->>On Sun, 3 Feb 2002, Zach Smith wrote: ->> ->> ->>> I want to install OpenOffice but ->> ->>The following describes installing StarOffice 6.0beta, perhaps OpenOffice ->>maintains the same system... ->> ->>First: ->>chmod u+x so-6_0-beta-bin-linux-<language>.bin ->> ->>Then for the network installation (as root): ->>./so-6_0-beta-bin-linux-<language>.bin -net ->> ->>Then as user you can activate the setup as it is explained in the setup ->>document from Sun (setup_guideeng.pdf). ->> ->>-- ->>Ragnar Steingrimsson | Department of Cognitive Sciences ->>UC-Irvine, SSPA 3151 | Email: ragnar@uci.edu ->>Irvine, CA 92697 | Small Green Men ->> -> ->I guess I don't understand the question, but I had a preview of the StarOffice ->6.0 system at LinuxWorld, NY, a couple of days ago, and it blew my mind. ->It is ->really a full-fledged word processor and spread sheet. If it performs like ->the ->demo, there is no reason for anyone to use MS Word or even Corel WP. (I ->like WP ->in Windows, altho I liked version 5.1 better.) The new SO will not take over ->your GUI, it will be available as an app, like everything else. SO is a ->really ->neat system. They say it will be available in April or May. I did not ask if ->it will be free, all I asked for was a copy, but I didn't get one. --doug -> -> -> -> -> -> ->-- ->To unsubscribe send e-mail to suse-linux-e-unsubscribe@suse.com ->For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com ->Also check the FAQ at http://www.suse.com/support/faq and the ->archives at http://lists.suse.com ->
-----=====-----=====-----=====-----=====----- Ben Rosenberg mailto:ben@whack.org -----=====-----=====-----=====-----=====----- I'm out of my mind, but feel free to leave a message...
Philip Burness wrote:
I installed 641c -net, then installed as a user, but each time I try and start running soffice it just echos aborted.
Any Ideas?
I have oo641c installed and running just fine - huge improvement over so5.2. I suspect you had a bad download. Try it again. -- JAY VOLLMER JVOLLMER1@MN.RR.COM TEXT REFS DOUBLEPLUSUNGOOD SELFTHINK VERGING CRIMETHINK IGNORE FULLWISE
On Sat, Feb 09, 2002 at 09:10:44AM -0600, J C Vollmer wrote:
Philip Burness wrote:
I installed 641c -net, then installed as a user, but each time I try and start running soffice it just echos aborted.
Any Ideas?
I have oo641c installed and running just fine - huge improvement over so5.2. I suspect you had a bad download. Try it again.
I think Philip may be on to something here - I've had a similar problem in SuSE 7.2 where OpenOffice installs fine on some installations, but on occassions where I have re-installed SuSE, it simply refuses to start, giving nothing useful at the command line. Very weird. -- Daniel Rees e: dan@dwrees.co.uk w: http://www.dwrees.co.uk
i ireinstalled 641 as user seems loock a little better every time i run an application i see "HACK no such file, what is that" RR
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On February 9, 2002 11:30 am, Daniel Rees wrote:
On Sat, Feb 09, 2002 at 09:10:44AM -0600, J C Vollmer wrote:
Philip Burness wrote:
I installed 641c -net, then installed as a user, but each time I try and start running soffice it just echos aborted.
Any Ideas?
I have oo641c installed and running just fine - huge improvement over so5.2. I suspect you had a bad download. Try it again.
I think Philip may be on to something here - I've had a similar problem in SuSE 7.2 where OpenOffice installs fine on some installations, but on occassions where I have re-installed SuSE, it simply refuses to start, giving nothing useful at the command line.
I found out what appears to be one of the dumbest bugs ever: If you have kicker or a task list on either side, as opposed to the top or bottom (I'm a Step guy), OpenOffice will not install or start. It just stops without a decent error message. I had a lot of fun figuring that out... - -- James Oakley Engineering - SolutionInc Ltd. joakley@solutioninc.com http://www.solutioninc.com -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE8Z9x8+FOexA3koIgRArv0AJ9hE3+t6TK21U/ekIFqoNTD33maxgCfYKv6 w5nb1QgfNzPEEBoYoxmaOOw= =eKhX -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
I have a KDE panel at the foot of my screen and desktop icons to the left of the screen. What is Kicker? Phil On Monday 11 February 2002 3:00 pm, James Oakley wrote:
On February 9, 2002 11:30 am, Daniel Rees wrote:
On Sat, Feb 09, 2002 at 09:10:44AM -0600, J C Vollmer wrote:
Philip Burness wrote:
I installed 641c -net, then installed as a user, but each time I try and start running soffice it just echos aborted.
Any Ideas?
I have oo641c installed and running just fine - huge improvement over so5.2. I suspect you had a bad download. Try it again.
I think Philip may be on to something here - I've had a similar problem in SuSE 7.2 where OpenOffice installs fine on some installations, but on occassions where I have re-installed SuSE, it simply refuses to start, giving nothing useful at the command line.
I found out what appears to be one of the dumbest bugs ever: If you have kicker or a task list on either side, as opposed to the top or bottom (I'm a Step guy), OpenOffice will not install or start. It just stops without a decent error message.
I had a lot of fun figuring that out...
The panel. :) As of KDE 2.0 the panel is called Kicker. * Philip Burness (pburness@btinternet.com) [020211 13:42]: ->I have a KDE panel at the foot of my screen and desktop icons to the left of ->the screen. What is Kicker? -----=====-----=====-----=====-----=====----- Ben Rosenberg mailto:ben@whack.org -----=====-----=====-----=====-----=====----- "I've never been quarantined. But the more I look around the more I think it might not be a bad thing." -JC
On Sun, 3 Feb 2002 19:36:19 -0000
"Paul Miles"
a) SuExec is designed to protect running cgi. b) Therefore SuExec's DocRoute should be /usr/local/httpd/cgi-bin ?
So why is it /usr/local/httpd/htdocs on the SuSE compiled version of Apache? Have I misunderstood somewhere?
I think that suexec just checks that the user and group of the cgi script, matches the homedir that it's being called in. It dosn't neccessarily put the cgi script in a chrooted protected directory. It also is compiled in Suse to make sure that the cgi script is in /home/user/public_html, you have to recompile it if you want something different. Maybe cgiwrap is what you are looking for? It's an alternative.
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