I promised Michael to send this a while ago, but forgot to type it in
from my notes.
I got an HP Mini netbook, a cute little black box of cuteness. Wanted
to get one of the sexy orange Samsungs, but the keyboard is soooo bad,
that an HP seemed better for my picky fingers.
Anyway.
I took some informal measurements of Windows 7's boot time. I took
three timings with a stopwatch; all of them are in seconds:
1 2 3 average
>From "BIOS disappears" to "mouse shows up" 19 …
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>From "mouse shows up" to "login screen" 5 6 5 5.3
>From "enter after password" to "desktop" 12 7 7 8.7
>From "click on Shutdown" to "screen turns off" 23 24 23 23.3
So... on average:
Boot to login screen - 22.3 sec (17.0 + 5.3)
Login to session - 8.7 sec
Shutdown - 23.3 sec
I'll measure Moblin soon.
Federico
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Hi guys,
Soo - we have a lot of changes in Moblin:Factory, and the way they pile
up rather concern me; in particular, I really want to see our work
getting into openSUSE - it sucks to see Fedora beat us there.
That, of course requires a little hacking work for some conflicting
packages; but other than that - the main barrier I see is procedural -
where should the packages go, how do we get them into factory; and how
can we bring to an absolute minimum the pain for everyone.
The Moblin:…
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* Bits already in openSUSE:Factory
A. Bits that are the same
+ no action required.
B. Bits that are different
+ telepathy patches
+ some speed optimisations
* Bits that are not (yet)
C. sharable bits that are not
* ccss, librest, nbtk, jana ... whatever ...
+ some of these may be picked up as GNOME
deps in future.
D. non-sharable - moblin specific bits
* netbook-manager-netbook
* moblin-panel-*
* mutter / mutter-moblin
+ potentially fragile, and depend on mutter
version GNOME's mutter version is different
- urk.
+ I guess we need to hack these about
E. base-O/S changes
+ we have quite a few here - from aaa_base to
Of course, it would be possible to have Moblin:Factory to be the source
for openSUSE:Factory for C. and D. - with some fun around the mutter
situation (I suppose).
Pieces in 'B' could be made as (some sort of?) build conditional
patches in G:F (and G:Apps ?) - how would that work obs wise ? is that
even a good idea. Please bear in mind that '_link's essentially don't
work, so I would strongly prefer a solution that is not based on them.
Of course, we want to get some of the performance wins into SP1 too.
For E. of course - there is some degree of teeth pulling required left
and right, which there is little appetite for I suspect; most likely we
should adopt a lifeboat model for the base-system: torpedo it all, and
transfer whatever floats to upstart [ assuming there is no mental
copyright assignment policy on it ].
One of the problems with slaving M:F to openSUSE - is that we have a
different, more rapid development schedule, and of course we badly need
to build against a SLE11 base as well as 11.2 - which may require some
accommodation ( is this best achieved with .spec file conditionals ? ).
Anyhow - I'd love some input here and/or unstructured thoughts for
synthesis. If we can't come to some conclusion by mail - there might
even have to be a (dreaded) phone meeting (you have been warned).
Thanks,
Michael.
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Hello,
I have tried to install the Moblin UI on openSUSE 11.2 without any luck. After
fighting with dependencies, the ymp install failed. It complained about not
finding the following packages:
anjal
bognor-regis
clutter-mozembed
cubano
hornsey
libgupnp-1_0-2
libgupnp-av-1_0-1
moblin-ux-settings
moblin-web-browser
moonshine
moonshine-plugin
mutter-moblin
network-manager-netbook
I used the oss, non-oss and Moblin:/UI repos for 11.2.
All I get when I start Moblin is a white screen with a …
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different theme.
Is it me or there's something wrong?
Greetings,
Javier
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