September 2009 - openSUSE Goblin - openSUSE Mailing Lists

hal in Moblin:Base for openSUSE:Factory broken
by Andreas Jaeger 23 Sep '09

23 Sep '09

I tried fixing the hal version in Moblin:UI so that it builds on openSUSE:Factory but failed miserably, the problem are the lib/lib64 changes. We need to get this one working so that x86-64 packages build for Factory. Could somebody look into it? Or could we update to the Factory version of hal - or would that break 11.1 based builds? Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger, Program Manager openSUSE, aj(a){novell.com,opensuse.org} Twitter: jaegerandi | Identica: jaegerandi SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126

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Goblin on PentiumM
by Allen Benter 11 Sep '09

11 Sep '09

Hi, I am new on the list, but hope I can help in some way along the journey. I have an Asus R2Hv which has a PentiumM processor - it does not have SSE3 support (only SSE2). Can I install one of the images for the eee701 and then add the Moblin repositories? Also, which Xorg is being used? I tried this machine with the standard 11.1, but Xorg fails on the intel driver. It seems a fix has been made upstream, but isn't available in Xorg 7.4. The R2Hv has an Intel Mobile 915GM/GMS/910GML graphics controller with a 7" 800x480 display. Is there a live image I can try before installing? Thanks, Allen -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-goblin+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-goblin+help(a)opensuse.org

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Re: [opensuse-goblin] Moblin, Goblin & openSUSE
by Terje J. Hanssen 08 Sep '09

08 Sep '09

On Mon, 07 Sep 2009 09:28:56 +0100 Michael Meeks wrote: > > On Sun, 2009-09-06 at 23:07 +0200, Terje J. Hanssen wrote: > > > > For practical use I think of getting Moblin as an option on the > > 'change > > session switch' on the gdm login panel, in addition to the current > > installed desktop options Gnome/KDE/XFCE. > > > > > > Sure - it should be an option like that already, if you install the > > Moblin:UI one-click under 11.1 - at least, that is the intention :-) Well, I gave the OBS Goblin_1-click installation a try on my 11.1 x86_64 mobile workstation, but ran into a bunch of dependice errors. Comments and suggestions to my following user experience below are welcome: As I initially had several community repos and packages installed on 11.1, I did a fresh 11.1 reinstallation and complete online update. But still the Goblin 1-click installation listed a bunch of dependice errors. Althoug I'm not currently on this workstation, among other I noticed: Packages at first not found - libclutter-glx-0.9.so.0()(64bit) needed by mutter-moblin - this one looked to be installed yet - moblin-web-browser needs libcluttermozembed.so.0 - mutter-moblin-0.32 needs libmissioncontrol-client.so.0 I tried some manual selections and architechture upgrades, but managed only to get a partly installation Packages not installed - libgupnp-1_0-1 - libtelepathy-farsight Things I noticed after this 'partial Goblin installation': - an unexpected modified 'green velvet pattern' desktop background on the gdm login screen - logged into a standard gnome session and discovered some new icons for panel applets - I didn't expect that Goblin should change the standard gnome session - logged out and tried to change session to 'Moblin experience' - a bug I've experienced on openSUSE/SLED 11.x (don't know if it is reported) is that the first selection to another session doesn't work. Sometimes it logon to the previous session, this time it only brought back the gdm login screen. I had to change session two times before it worked. - however, I didn't notice any difference between this 'Moblin Experience' and the 'modified Gnome sesssion' tried first (I didn't explore details) - new theme for Firefox (maybe also in the modified gnome session) Rgds, Terje J.H -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-goblin+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-goblin+help(a)opensuse.org

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RE: [opensuse-goblin] Moblin, Goblin & openSUSE
by Andrew Wafaa 08 Sep '09

08 Sep '09

Greg, Yes they should and will be. I'm currently trying to get the 1Click pattern sorted, and the last thing todo is try and find a way of not having the user go through and choose dependency resolution options. Ideally this would be taken care of. Once that is done I'll remove the 1Click from the :UI repo and see if we can get it added to the :Factory one. Regards, Andy -- Sent from a Nokia N97 Andrew Wafaa, openSUSE Member: FunkyPenguin PGP: 0x3A36312F openSUSE: Get It, Discover It, Create It at http://www.opensuse.org . -----Original Message----- From: Greg KH Sent: 08/09/2009 19:28:11 To: Terje J. Hanssen Cc: Andrew Wafaa; opensuse-goblin(a)opensuse.org Subject: Re: [opensuse-goblin] Moblin, Goblin & openSUSE On Tue, Sep 08, 2009 at 08:23:07PM +0200, Terje J. Hanssen wrote: > Hi Andy, > > Andrew Wafaa wrote: > > Hi Terje, > > > > 2009/9/8 Terje J. Hanssen<nteknikk(a)monet.no>: > > > >> Well, I gave the OBS Goblin_1-click installation a try on my 11.1 x86_64 > >> mobile workstation, but ran into a bunch of dependice errors. > >> > >> Comments and suggestions to my following user experience below are welcome: > >> > >> As I initially had several community repos and packages installed on > >> 11.1, I did a fresh 11.1 reinstallation and complete online update. But > >> still the Goblin 1-click installation listed a bunch of dependice errors. > >> > >> Althoug I'm not currently on this workstation, among other I noticed: > >> > >> Packages at first not found > >> - libclutter-glx-0.9.so.0()(64bit) needed by mutter-moblin - this one > >> looked to be installed yet > >> - moblin-web-browser needs libcluttermozembed.so.0 > >> - mutter-moblin-0.32 needs libmissioncontrol-client.so.0 > >> > >> I tried some manual selections and architechture upgrades, but managed > >> only to get a partly installation > >> Packages not installed > >> - libgupnp-1_0-1 > >> - libtelepathy-farsight > >> > >> Things I noticed after this 'partial Goblin installation': > >> - an unexpected modified 'green velvet pattern' desktop background on > >> the gdm login screen > >> - logged into a standard gnome session and discovered some new icons for > >> panel applets > >> - I didn't expect that Goblin should change the standard gnome session > >> - logged out and tried to change session to 'Moblin experience' > >> - a bug I've experienced on openSUSE/SLED 11.x (don't know if it is > >> reported) is that the first selection to another session doesn't work. > >> Sometimes it logon to the previous session, this time it only brought > >> back the gdm login screen. I had to change session two times before it > >> worked. > >> - however, I didn't notice any difference between this 'Moblin > >> Experience' and the 'modified Gnome sesssion' tried first (I didn't > >> explore details) > >> - new theme for Firefox (maybe also in the modified gnome session) > >> > >> Rgds, > >> Terje J.H > >> > >> > > Your 1Click pain is completely my fault - sorry about that :( If you > > try it again it should work now, many thanks to Shu Chen for helping > > with this. > > > > There is an issue it seems with both logging into the Moblin UX and > > also using apps in that session, in so much as they are tied to having > > a username called 'linux' with an accessible /home/linux. This may > > well cause issues to users that have multi user systems - whether you > > can symlink /home/linux to /home/$USER I'm not sure. > > > > Regards, > > > > Andy > > > > > Sorry, but still the list of dependice conflicts/manual selection popup, > when I try the 1-click goblin installation. First I did a clean-down of > my 11.1 x86_64 system, using an update installation from the 11.1 DVD. > > Here is the list of repos and priorities that is set up by the 1-click > goblin installation. Is something wrong here, maybe other priorities can > avoid the list: > > 20 openSUSE-11.1-Update > 99 Moblin:Base > 99 Moblin:Base:Updates > 99 Moblin:UI Hm, shouldn't these be Moblin:Factory instead of :Base and :UI? :Base and :UI are much more experimental. thanks, greg k-h -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-goblin+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-goblin+help(a)opensuse.org

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Re: [opensuse-goblin] Moblin, Goblin & openSUSE
by Terje J. Hanssen 08 Sep '09

08 Sep '09

Peter Czanik wrote on Thu, 13 Aug 2009 22:40:44 +0200: > 2009-08-13 17:12 keltezéssel, Michael Loeffler írta: > > So please let us know your opinion if and how to integrate Moblin > with > openSUSE? > > I don't know, if it is technically possible, but I would be happy, if at > least the UI part could be integrated into 11.2. I'm a new subscriber on this list and would like to add a question and a few suggestions to this previous thread - from my 'users point of view': As the 11.2 DVD space is mentioned constrained, will it instead be possible to make Goblin as an 'Add-on product' to openSUSE 11.2 ? For the installation I think of getting a software 'desktop pattern' already available for the intial 11.2 installation and/or when adding Goblin as new product with the YaST package manager afterwards. For practical use I think of getting Moblin as an option on the 'change session switch' on the gdm login panel, in addition to the current installed desktop options Gnome/KDE/XFCE. This to complement the already mentioned OBS '1-click installation'. And of course a dedicated Goblin Live/install-CD/USB will be of interest for all potential users ;) Rgds, Terje J. Hanssen -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-goblin+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-goblin+help(a)opensuse.org

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Installing the image to an already installed system
by Andrew Wafaa 04 Sep '09

04 Sep '09

Could someone advise as to how one can install the image to an already installed system? At the moment if one has a vanilla openSUSE or Goblin installed the image installer exits complaining that the system is already installed. The only way I can install a new image is to install some crud like UNR and then install Goblin, not ideal by any stretch of the imagination. Thanks, Andy -- Sent from a Nokia N97 Andrew Wafaa, openSUSE Member: FunkyPenguin . -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-goblin+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-goblin+help(a)opensuse.org

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moblin in openSUSE
by Peter Czanik 01 Sep '09

01 Sep '09

Hello, See http://www.osnews.com/story/22089/Fedora_Stirs_in_Moblin_Technology Any news on the openSUSE version? Bye, CzP -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-goblin+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-goblin+help(a)opensuse.org

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