April 2009 - openSUSE Features - openSUSE Mailing Lists

[openFATE 305992] Easier removal of packages installed due dependencies and not manually by user
by fate_noreply＠suse.de 23 Jul '11

23 Jul '11

Feature added by: Nikanth K (nikanth) Feature #305992, revision 1, last change by Title: Easier removal of packages installed due dependencies and not manually by user openSUSE-11.2: Unconfirmed Priority Requester: Important Requested by: Nikanth K (nikanth) Description: If one tries to install a package say "bzflag-debugsource", then due to dependency "bzflag-debuginfo" also gets installed. But later the user may not remember it and will uninstall only "bzflag-debugsource". So installing and uninstalling, "bzflag-debugsource", does not leave the system in the same state as before. It would be nice if yast2/zypper can remember the automatic package selections and prompt user when the actual packages are being uninstalled and there are no other package that is still dependent on them. Atleast a way to know the list of packages installed due to dependencies and the no of packages still dependent on them would make it easier for the user. And this list should not include packages manually installed by the user. -- openSUSE Feature: https://features.opensuse.org/305992

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[openFate 305593] Send notifications on link, branch and aggregate, show them in interface
by fate_noreply＠suse.de 23 May '11

23 May '11

Feature added by: Pavol Rusnak <prusnak(a)novell.com> Feature #305593, revision 1, last change by Title: Send notifications on link, branch and aggregate, show them in interface Buildservice: New Priority Requester: Desirable Requested by: Pavol Rusnak <prusnak(a)novell.com> Partner organization: openSUSE.org Description: * send notification emails on link, branch and aggregate and/or show how many packages are linked to current package - that should reduce number of deletions which break other people's packages -- openSUSE Feature: https://features.opensuse.org/?rm=feature_show&id=305593

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[openFATE 306116] Better lock handling in zypper
by fate_noreply＠suse.de 06 May '11

06 May '11

Feature added by: Marek Stopka (m4r3k) Feature #306116, revision 1, last change by Title: Better lock handling in zypper openSUSE-11.2: Unconfirmed Priority Requester: Important openSUSE-11.3: Unconfirmed Priority Requester: Important Requested by: Marek Stopka (m4r3k) Description: Currently only two states in locking of packages are available (keep package as is/do not care about package) but I think it would be much more better to have a possibility lock only some parameters of package... For example you have a 64bit machine, but you want keep some package always in i586 version, but you still wanna version updates in this case there should be a possibility to lock only this parameter. Of course there is a lot of options what else can be locked, for example version of package, meaning that you can't change package version, but release number can change... -- openSUSE Feature: https://features.opensuse.org/306116

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[openFATE 305849] Provide the Ability to Natively Load More Than One Protocol Stack
by fate_noreply＠suse.de 14 Apr '11

14 Apr '11

Feature added by: Scott Couston (zczc2311) Feature #305849, revision 1, last change by Title: Provide the Ability to Natively Load More Than One Protocol Stack openSUSE-11.3: Unconfirmed Priority Requester: Important Requested by: Scott Couston (zczc2311) Description: Currently we natively support only an IP protocol stack, however I would hazard a guess that SLES has the ability to load IPX as well even as we have moved away from IPX. The Other Misgiving is that natively we cannot support more than an IP Protocol Stack and the lack of very good open/proprietary 3270 type Terminal Emulation shipped by default. I would be much happier if opensuse OR SLED could cope with another Protocol Stack - In Australia there is an enormous market we currently offer no solution to in only providing an IP Protocol Stack. In my home Country Australia All Federal Government- Health-Social Security- etc./All Banking Sectors/Most all Military Sectors/All State and Federal Law enforcement/Others (Thats a big Market Place) need to support a 3270 type Terminal Emulator and directly address SNA or X.25 or STLC comms. To compete we must at least be equal in the market place! The other mass market world wide particularly in the US are PC's that all Travel Agents use to make their bookings. World Wide They would use either Saber or Apollo or Galileo or Amadeus or Abacus - that about covers the whole World now. The issue all user face with M.S is that they most likely have a dedicated comms server as M.S cannot even load the required Protocol Stack. Depending on which Global System is used they mostly stick to their preferred stack and this could vary from ALC/STLC/X.25/IP/IPX/MATIP/etc..... Enough said - I think we all understand how we can better appeal to other huge markets if we invest in the functional ability to load more than just IPV4/6. I think we need to look far and wide at ALL Industry comms and we CAN do what MS cannot - We could easily bundle off a very very good 3270 type emulator and support SNA AND IP directly without the possible need for a comms servers packet stacking and promiscuous translation to IP. So we have 2 huge untaped Markets we cannot help right now and these are Australian - .GOV/.MIL and internal Banks and credit unions Global - The travel Industry is their varying, but constant use of say STLC/MATIP If we need to pull apart IP coms in the future for IPV6 this would be golden to support more than an IP Protocol only. __________________ -- openSUSE Feature: https://features.opensuse.org/305849

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[openFATE 305842] Provide RPM Update Server to Update All openSUSE/SLED Workstations
by fate_noreply＠suse.de 14 Apr '11

14 Apr '11

Feature added by: Scott Couston (zczc2311) Feature #305842, revision 1, last change by Title: Provide RPM Update Server to Update All openSUSE/SLED Workstations openFATE: Unconfirmed Priority Requester: Important Requested by: Scott Couston (zczc2311) Description: *Please be Patient - This is my First FATE request* Definitions in this Submission Workstation == Any openSUSE/SLED installation that functions without direct server support Installation Server == Any designated PC that holds a repository for the complete RPM's contained at time of software Release. Update Server == Any designated PC that holds a repository(s) that contain online update RPM's The 'Server' would be accessible by normal NFS... et al Services currently available. Current Situation The Installation of a PC with openSUSE/SLED requires a huge number of Online Updates a situation that may never change whilst development continues. The Installation of openSUSE has the ability to perform many NFS Installations at one time whilst being able to create 1 repository server for the entire Installation RPM's for future addition of features and groups not included in the base installation. Feature Request Along the same notion of an NFS Installation I propose that we an Installation Server or Other to be an Update Server which downloads ALL RPM updates as they become available. Each Workstation then selects Online Updates from the Update Server per chosen update check cycle period. In this way each workstation needs only to connect with the Update Server rather than each workstation downloading its required updates. This has the potential to cut update traffic by the number of workstations installed on a LAN and this weighed against the traffic of downloading ALL updates and the traffic on ALL Online update Server Repositories and Mirrors external to the LAN. The concept is notedly simple however this has a huge technical repercussion and link to FATE #120340. This concept is open for addition to FATE #120340 or it can stand alone at the discretion of Novell.DE Whilst this concept is created by the author the technical impact/problems will require much input from Novell.De and Suse.DE and the author. -- openSUSE Feature: https://features.opensuse.org/305842

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[openFATE 305919] Hunspell as a system wide spellchecker
by fate_noreply＠suse.de 13 Apr '11

13 Apr '11

Feature added by: Stephan Kulow (coolo) Feature #305919, revision 1, last change by Title: Hunspell as a system wide spellchecker openSUSE-11.2: Unconfirmed Priority Requester: Important Requested by: Kálmán Kéménczy (kkemenczy) Description: Why Hunspell? MySpell is not developed for quite a long time either in Mozilla and in OpenOffice.org. Hunspell is a fork of MySpell, it has great improvements is several ways, and fully backward compatible with MySpell. Main features: * Extended support for language peculiarities; Unicode character ncoding, compounding and complex morphology. * Improved suggestion using n-gram similarity, rule and dictionary ased pronounciation data. * Morphological analysis, stemming and generation. * Hunspell is based on MySpell and works also with MySpell dictionaries. * GPL/LGPL/MPL tri-license http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hunspell http://hunspell.sourceforge.net/ Fedora project: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/FeatureDictionary I also find a reference in the wishlist: http://en.opensuse.org/Wishlist_Various Relations: - Hunspell as a system wide spellchecker (novell/bugzilla/id: 354554) https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=354554 Discussion: #1: Stephan Kulow (coolo) (2008-01-18 06:18:21) For reference: http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-factory/2008-01/msg00156.html #2: Petr Mladek (pmladek) (2008-01-18 07:20:54) * ** Bug 301458 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. *** #3: Petr Mladek (pmladek) (2008-01-18 07:24:25) I'll do my best to do it for openSUSE-11.0. I am still busy with some other things. Or Michael, do you have time to look at it? #4: Kálmán Kéménczy (kkemenczy) (2008-01-27 12:17:56) patch for gtkspell (2.0.11): http://www.abisource.com/~dom/gtkspell-2.0.11-enchant.patch using this patch makes obsolate the gtkspell-gcc-err-fix.diff patch for gnome-spell 1.0.7: based on https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=426347 attached #5: Petr Mladek (pmladek) (2008-01-28 05:44:13) Adding gtkspell maintainer to CC. #6: Kálmán Kéménczy (kkemenczy) (2008-01-28 05:52:56) Created an attachment (id=191980) gnome spell check patch #7: Kálmán Kéménczy (kkemenczy) (2008-02-04 02:24:22) now available in Build Service (without dictionaries) http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/kkemenczy/openSUSE_Factory/ #8: Ladislav Michnovič (lmich) (2008-02-04 02:49:51) Proposed patch for gtkspell has been added. #9: Kálmán Kéménczy (kkemenczy) (2008-02-04 12:38:37) dictionaries http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/kkemenczy/openSUSE_Factory/… #10: Martin Schlander (cb400f) (2008-02-05 01:30:16) For Danish (da_DK) there's a dictionary being developed that's optimized for hunspell at http://www.stavekontrolden.dk http://www.stavekontrolden.dk/main/sspinputfiles/da_DK.dic http://www.stavekontrolden.dk/main/sspinputfiles/da_DK.aff I believe it's already a better option for hunspell than the dictionary from http://da.speling.org which is currently packaged. If not already it will become so soon as it's developed a lot more actively. Furthermore it's available under these licenses: GPL version 2 LGPL version 2.1 MPL version 1.1 Don't hesitate to ask if there are further questions. #11: Kálmán Kéménczy (kkemenczy) (2008-02-05 07:25:42) da_DK dictionary updated what is the next step? Someone had to decide to add it to the factory for further test. #12: Petr Mladek (pmladek) (2008-02-05 09:57:30) Lado. is there any chance that you could create the hunspell package for STABLE/FACTORY? I am still busy with some other stuff. #13: Ladislav Michnovič (lmich) (2008-02-06 02:49:05) O.K. I'll do it. It won't be in Alpha 2 because it is already under mastering process. It should appear in Alpha 3. #14: Ladislav Michnovič (lmich) (2008-02-19 06:14:25) Package is in Factory. #15: Kálmán Kéménczy (kkemenczy) (2008-02-21 03:48:22) imho several tasks left: * I am not sure that gnome-spell is Enchant-enable or not. ttps://bugzilla.novell.com/attachment.cgi?id=191980 * Sonnet's enchant backend backport to kdelibs / kspell ttp://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=154560 more info: https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2007-December/msg01493.ht… * Removing hunspell from Enchant ttps://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=426402 * vim patch for hunspell: ttps://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=219777 Should I create seperate bugs or we should keep them together here? #16: Ladislav Michnovič (lmich) (2008-02-21 04:13:53) (In reply to comment #15 from kalman kemenczy) > imho several tasks left: > > * I am not sure that gnome-spell is Enchant-enable or not. > https://bugzilla.novell.com/attachment.cgi?id=191980 > > * Sonnet's enchant backend backport to kdelibs / kspell > http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=154560 > more info: > https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2007-December/msg01493.ht… > > * Removing hunspell from Enchant > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=426402 > > * vim patch for hunspell: > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=219777 > > Should I create seperate bugs or we should keep them together here? Adding kde-maintainers and gnome-maintainers to CC. Reassigning to vim maintainer. #17: Bjoern Jacke (bjacke) (2008-03-23 12:43:01) * ** Bug 237828 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. *** #18: Bjoern Jacke (bjacke) (2008-05-01 15:57:47) - any news from vim maintainer on this? - enchant still needs rework or update - gnome-spell still needs enchant support added #19: Ladislav Michnovič (lmich) (2008-05-05 04:40:12) Adding JP. What do you think about this? See comment #15 and #18. #20: Matthias Koenig (makoenig) (2008-05-05 06:42:03) There are some problems with the vim patch. Currently we have /bin/vim-normal as default vim and /usr/bin/vim-enhanced. As the patch links against libhunspell which lives in /usr/lib{,64} we cannot link /bin/vim-normal against this. This would require either moving libhunspell to /lib{,64} which is not want we want (libhunspell itself also links against /usr/lib{,64}/libstdc++), or building /bin/vim-normal without syntax features at all (as the spell features seem to be tightly coupled to the general syntax features), which I also don't want. The best solution would be to provide a /bin/vim-tiny with minimal features and moving /bin/vim-normal to /usr/bin/vim-normal. But this will not happen for 11.0, as it will need yet another vim package restructuring. But, despite of this, yes, I think using hunspell is a good idea, as the vim dictionaries are derived from the OO ones and would otherwise waste a lot of space by duplicated data. Also worth mentioning, that this patch has been sent a year ago to upstream. While the idea has been appreciated, the patch has been rejected as is, AFAIK there has not been any work to improve this: http://www.mail-archive.com/vim-dev@vim.org/msg03252.html #21: Kálmán Kéménczy (kkemenczy) (2008-05-09 22:54:06) Created an attachment (id=214116) Gnome spell enchant patch here is the latest and greatest patch wirtten by Szilveszter Farkas from Ubuntu community, however this is created for gnome-spell 1.0.7, maybe it could use for 1.0.8. #22: Kálmán Kéménczy (kkemenczy) (2008-05-09 22:57:46) Rodrigo, could you check this patch to gnome-spell, please? https://bugzilla.novell.com/attachment.cgi?id=214116 Hopefully you are the maintainer for this packge. Many thanks, kalman #23: Stanislav Brabec (sbrabec) (2008-05-21 04:21:49) Patch applied (autogenerated files removed from it). #24: Jan Engelhardt (jengelh) (2009-01-11 18:53:30) There's a ton of spelling tools, why could not it have used one of the previously packaged ones, aka aspell or ispell? #25: Kálmán Kéménczy (kkemenczy) (2009-01-12 01:19:59) Jan, Hunspell already packaged in openSUSE. To answer your why's please read comment#1 #26: Jan Engelhardt (jengelh) (2009-01-12 03:06:41) >Hunspell already packaged in openSUSE But was not in 10.3. Hence the question. >comment#1 First comment says "Myspell". I asked about aspell/ispell. #27: Kálmán Kéménczy (kkemenczy) (2009-01-12 03:41:41) I think there are some reasons why choose Mozilla and OpenOffice.org and why Fedora decided as well, and slowly Ubuntu will go this way. In my comment#1 you should find the awesome summary: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/FeatureDictionary Hunspell is not a question, the question is when? -- openSUSE Feature: https://features.opensuse.org/305919

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[openFate 305587] Yast template for theming
by fate_noreply＠suse.de 01 Apr '11

01 Apr '11

Feature added by: Jakub Steiner <jimmac(a)novell.com> Feature #305587, revision 1, last change by Title: Yast template for theming openSUSE-11.2: New Priority Requester: Important Requested by: Jim McEldowney <jimmac(a)erie.net> Partner organization: openSUSE.org Description: To be able to skin the Yast installer properly, I would welcome the existence of a YCP template to include all of the widgets included in the actual installer. Business case (Partner benefit): openSUSE.org: Without such a testbed it's extremely hard and error prone to create new styling. In some cases it's impossible to see the implications of a style change until after it has been submitted to build and new distribution snapshot released. -- openSUSE Feature: https://features.opensuse.org/?rm=feature_show&id=305587

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[openFATE 305876] Packages usage statistics
by fate_noreply＠suse.de 31 Mar '11

31 Mar '11

Feature added by: Michal Vyskocil (mvyskocil) Feature #305876, revision 1, last change by Title: Packages usage statistics openSUSE-11.2: Unconfirmed Priority Requester: Important openSUSE-11.3: Unconfirmed Priority Requester: Important Requested by: Michal Vyskocil (mvyskocil) Description: Moved from Brainstorming_Prague (http://en.opensuse.org/BrainStorming_Prague#We_don.27t_know_which_packages_…) Problem: We don't know which packages users really use/have installed We cannot focus our interest on really important packages for our end-users, because we don't know which are important. Those popularity statistics could help us in many ways - for example bug priority of popular package should be higher, or we can decide move the package from/to Factory, ... Debian has a http://popcon.debian.org/ and popularity-contest package, so we should reuse an existing code. The pupularity-contest executable is a simple Perl script, which should be ported to rpm (replacing of dpkg calls by rpm alternative should be enough). Those package usage statistics could be integrated into Software Portal and to YaST comparing relative results for individual packages between openSUSE and Debian can give us a valuable information about the community structure (how many users use development tools etc.) -- openSUSE Feature: https://features.opensuse.org/305876

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[openFate 305723] Allow to set the owner of a partition
by fate_noreply＠suse.de 16 Mar '11

16 Mar '11

Feature added by: Rajko Matovic (rajko_m) Feature #305723, revision 1, last change by Title: Allow to set the owner of a partition openSUSE-11.2: Unconfirmed Priority Requester: Important Requested by: Rajko Matovic (rajko_m) Partner organization: openSUSE.org Description: If a user buys a new external harddrive and partitions it via YaST he will not be able to write on it, since the filesystem is owned by root. A normal user would need to know about how to use konsole and which command to use in order to change the owner. It would be a lot easier, if the user could change the owner within the partitioning module. Of course this should not be possible for system-partitions such as / and /usr etc, yet /windows and /media, as well as /home/xyz/ should be fine. The problem is not trivial as it is not enough to change fstab. See: See: http://ntfs-3g.org/support.html#unprivileged -- openSUSE Feature: https://features.opensuse.org/?rm=feature_show&id=305723

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[openFate 305075] Allow to set the owner of a partition
by fate_noreply＠suse.de 16 Mar '11

16 Mar '11

Feature added by: Arvin Schnell (aschnell(a)novell.com) Feature #305075, revision 1 Title: Allow to set the owner of a partition openSUSE-11.1: New Priority Requester: Desirable Requested by: Sven Burmeister (sven.burmeister(a)gmx.net) Partner organization: openSUSE.org Description: If a user buys a new external harddrive and partitions it via YaST he will not be able to write on it, since the filesystem is owned by root. A normal user would need to know about how to use konsole and which command to use in order to change the owner. It would be a lot easier, if the user could change the owner within the partitioning module. Of course this should not be possible for system-partitions such as / and /usr etc, yet /windows and /media, as well as /home/xyz/ should be fine. Discussion: #1: Arvin Schnell(aschnell(a)novell.com) (2008-07-15 08:32:00) Do you want to set gui and uid in /etc/fstab? #2: Sven Burmeister(sven.burmeister(a)gmx.net) (2008-07-15 08:56:26) I'm not sure which is the best approach. Either the user could do something that replaces "chown user:group ." on the new partition or some predefined gui/uid to select from, because the normal user has no idea about those and the numbers that go with them. The goal is that a user that knows the root password can not only partition a new harddrive via GUI but also make it accessible (rw) to users without having to know anything about fstab-syntax and options. -- openSUSE Feature: https://features.opensuse.org/?rm=feature_show&id=305075

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