I have an old K6-2/450 that will run Suse up to 8.2 but not version 9, as it won't run the 2.6 kernel. Of course, it won't run XP either, but who cares. So, it is quite happy with Suse 8.2 and KDE 3 and gives the g'kids something to use if they get really bored. Fred
Stevens wrote:
I have an old K6-2/450 that will run Suse up to 8.2 but not version 9, as it won't run the 2.6 kernel. Of course, it won't run XP either, but who cares.
What's the problem with the 2.6 kernel on K6-2? Also, even if it really does not work, I think 9.x still gave you the option of a 2.4 or 2.6 kernel. I've got an ancient K6-2 366 somewhere - maybe one of these days when I'm bored .... /Per Jessen, Zürich
I have an old K6-2/450 that will run Suse up to 8.2 but not version 9, as it won't run the 2.6 kernel. Of course, it won't run XP either, but who cares. Like Mr. Jessen, I am curious about why you say it won't run the 2.6 kernel. In a lab here at work I have been running SuSE 9.1 with 2.6 kernel on an old Micron PC with a 300 MHz Pentium II for quite a while with no trouble. So it isn't a K-6 but it is
Stevens wrote: older and slower. Are you saying that the K-6 has some problem with 2.6 kernel? I haven't run into any real trouble with 2.6 on an older computer until I tried to put SuSE 10.0 on PC at home with a 233 MHz Pentium. It was impossible. Just to get first screen of the installation took about 30 minutes and it was many minutes to go to the next so I gave up and scrapped the project. Right now I am running Solaris 10 on a different PC at home but at some point I would like to try again to get SuSE working on the old PC.
So, it is quite happy with Suse 8.2 and KDE 3 and gives the g'kids something to use if they get really bored. much better than overdosing on Cartoon Network
Damon Register
On Thursday 21 September 2006 05:53, Damon Register wrote:
Stevens wrote:
I have an old K6-2/450 that will run Suse up to 8.2 but not version 9, as it won't run the 2.6 kernel. Of course, it won't run XP either, but who cares.
Like Mr. Jessen, I am curious about why you say it won't run the 2.6 kernel. In a lab here at work I have been running SuSE 9.1 with 2.6 kernel on an old Micron PC with a 300 MHz Pentium II for quite a while with no trouble. So it isn't a K-6 but it is older and slower. Are you saying that the K-6 has some problem with 2.6 kernel?
OK, here goes: As far as I can determine, the K6-2 processor was an attempt by AMD to compete with Intel and was "comparable" but not "compatible" to the original Pentium. I do not know the internal differences between the two, but I do know that the K6-2 will not, repeat not, accept the 2.6 kernel, nor will it accept Windows XP. I tried repeatedly to get different OS versions to load and run and the best that I could do was a 2.4 kernel Linux or Win ME. The guys on ntlug.org went further into the reasons why, but that's the essence. As for the comment that Suse 9x had the option to select either 2.4 or 2.6 kernels, I would welcome that person to take my 9.1 installation CD and perform that magic. I have never seen that option offered. =====
On 06/09/21 21:43 (GMT-0500) Stevens apparently typed:
OK, here goes: As far as I can determine, the K6-2 processor was an attempt by AMD to compete with Intel and was "comparable" but not "compatible" to the original Pentium. I do not know the internal differences between the two, but I do know that the K6-2 will not, repeat not, accept the 2.6 kernel, nor will it accept Windows XP. I tried repeatedly to get different OS versions to load and run and the best that I could do was a 2.4 kernel Linux or Win ME. The guys on ntlug.org went further into the reasons why, but that's the essence.
I've run *many* different kernels on many distros on K6/2 and K6-III with no apparent trouble that had anything to do with kernels. I have one Tyan Trinity S1590 with MVP3 chipset that ran 9.1 and now runs both 9.2 and 9.3, none of which I ever tried with a 2.4 kernel. I have another Asus P5S-B with SiS 530 chipset that has run every Fedora release through v4, all on 2.6 kernels. I have a Mitac 5114 with MVP4 running doze XP. I have an FIC VA-503+ with MVP3 running doze XP. Until a year ago, my Mandrake/Mandriva Cooker box was on an old Shuttle Hot 569 with Intel 430TX chipset and 66MHz FSB, so I was running various 2.6 kernels on it for at least 2 years before retiring that in favor of a PIII 700. Whatever your problem is is not about the K6 unless yours is defective or the motherboard isn't properly supporting it. Maybe all you need is 0.1v more current for it. Could be the motherboard is your problem, or your RAM, or overclocking. *Your* K6 may be a problem, but *the* K6 is not. -- "Wisdom is supreme; therefore get wisdom. Though it cost all you have, get understanding. Esteem her, and she will exalt you; embrace her, and she will honor you." Proverbs 4:7-8 NIV Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 Felix Miata *** http://mrmazda.no-ip.com/
On Thursday 21 September 2006 23:13, Felix Miata wrote:
I've run *many* different kernels on many distros on K6/2 and K6-III with no apparent trouble that had anything to do with kernels.
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Whatever your problem is is not about the K6 unless yours is defective or the motherboard isn't properly supporting it. Maybe all you need is 0.1v more current for it. Could be the motherboard is your problem, or your RAM, or overclocking. *Your* K6 may be a problem, but *the* K6 is not. --
Anything is possible, I guess, but in this case, my old Compaq with the K6-2/450 will absolutely, positively NOT run anything newer than 2.4. It ain't worth screwing with, it is an old, slow piece of crap and if anyone on the list, yourself included, would like to have it to satisfy your curiosity, then send me the shipping cost and I will box it up and send it to you. Then the report can be made back to the list explaining just what the problem is in that 10 year old hulk. Otherwise it is destined to be dumpster food. ==============
On Thu, 2006-09-21 at 21:43 -0500, Stevens wrote:
As for the comment that Suse 9x had the option to select either 2.4 or 2.6 kernels, I would welcome that person to take my 9.1 installation CD and perform that magic. I have never seen that option offered.
That was 9.0, when the 2.6 kernel was brand new. 9.0 was (if memory serves) released with a 2.6 prerelease, and had 2.4 as the default choice, but the daring could select to use the new stuff 9.1 was 2.6 only
I have an old K6-2/450 that will run Suse up to 8.2 but not version 9, as it won't run the 2.6 kernel. This is very interesting to me. I am running Suse 10.0 on four e-machines
On Thursday 21 September 2006 01:37, Stevens wrote: that *all* use the AMD K6 processor; 2.6 kernel... two of them are 500, one is 450 and one is 300. I thought they were AMD K62 (before I looked) at /proc/cpuinfo... they are listed there as genuine AMD K6 3D processors (all of them). These guys run Suse 10 out of box without any tweaking. Maybe you could find an old K63 and get that thing running the later kernel....? Its been a while since I did this (mostly because I don't have time now, and I haven't run into your difficulty) but the default kernel can be tweaked to be optimized for your specific processor type... always could be in the past... so, between bios settings on the hardware side and a recompile of the kernel on the software side I would think that there should be a way to get the 2.6 kernel to run on the K62. Have you tried recompiling the kernel and optimizing for the i586 processor? just curious Maybe there is something I'm missing here.... could someone explain why the default kernel is baulking at the K62? -- Kind regards, M Harris <><
On Thu, 2006-09-21 at 01:37 -0500, Stevens wrote:
I have an old K6-2/450 that will run Suse up to 8.2 but not version 9, as it won't run the 2.6 kernel. Of course, it won't run XP either, but who cares.
So, it is quite happy with Suse 8.2 and KDE 3 and gives the g'kids something to use if they get really bored.
Fred
PII 350 256mb Gigagyte MB running 9.2 Pro just fine and with a little more memory 10.0 soon. CWSIV
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