Subject: NVidia +Sax2 +GLX - Cannot enable 3D Date: Sun, 25 Aug 2002 00:18:17 +0100 From: SuSE <suse@syrene.fsnet.co.uk> To: "suse-linux-e@suse.com" <suse-linux-e@suse.com> Sorry for the size but I have attached /etc/X11/XF86Config /var/log/Sax.log As for ` /var/log/XFree86.0.log ` it is over 24k and reports no errors Sax fails when I choose to enable 3D support OTOH, 3Ddiag reports I need to include : `Load "GLX" ` and specify ` "nvidia" ` as the driver. If I do this manually, X still fails to start. -- Sylvanus A. Currie Syrene Systems Limited Twist it, stomp it, bounce it, shake it 'Cos you know the vibe is what you make it
Are you sure you have the driver from NVidia installed? If not, you can install it with YOU. Op zondag 25 augustus 2002 10:24, schreef suse:
Subject: NVidia +Sax2 +GLX - Cannot enable 3D Date: Sun, 25 Aug 2002 00:18:17 +0100 From: SuSE <suse@syrene.fsnet.co.uk> To: "suse-linux-e@suse.com" <suse-linux-e@suse.com>
Sorry for the size but I have attached /etc/X11/XF86Config /var/log/Sax.log
As for ` /var/log/XFree86.0.log ` it is over 24k and reports no errors
Sax fails when I choose to enable 3D support
OTOH, 3Ddiag reports I need to include : `Load "GLX" ` and specify ` "nvidia" ` as the driver.
If I do this manually, X still fails to start.
Yes, linux:~ # rpm -qg NVIDIA group NVIDIA does not contain any packages linux:~ # rpm -q NVIDIA_kernel NVIDIA_kernel-1.0-2960 linux:~ # rpm -q NVIDIA_GLX NVIDIA_GLX-1.0-2960 linux:~ # On Sunday 25 August 2002 10:46, Z_God wrote:
Are you sure you have the driver from NVidia installed? If not, you can install it with YOU.
Op zondag 25 augustus 2002 10:24, schreef suse:
Subject: NVidia +Sax2 +GLX - Cannot enable 3D Date: Sun, 25 Aug 2002 00:18:17 +0100 From: SuSE <suse@syrene.fsnet.co.uk> To: "suse-linux-e@suse.com" <suse-linux-e@suse.com> <snip>
-- Sylvanus A. Currie Syrene Systems Limited Twist it, stomp it, bounce it, shake it 'Cos you know the vibe is what you make it
Weird problem, have you ever had it working before (other distro, older driver)? Maybe you could try an older driver from the NVidia ftp site. You should also try mailing NVidia about the problem. Op zondag 25 augustus 2002 18:31, schreef suse:
Yes, linux:~ # rpm -qg NVIDIA group NVIDIA does not contain any packages linux:~ # rpm -q NVIDIA_kernel NVIDIA_kernel-1.0-2960 linux:~ # rpm -q NVIDIA_GLX NVIDIA_GLX-1.0-2960 linux:~ #
On Sunday 25 August 2002 10:46, Z_God wrote:
Are you sure you have the driver from NVidia installed? If not, you can install it with YOU.
Op zondag 25 augustus 2002 10:24, schreef suse:
Subject: NVidia +Sax2 +GLX - Cannot enable 3D Date: Sun, 25 Aug 2002 00:18:17 +0100 From: SuSE <suse@syrene.fsnet.co.uk> To: "suse-linux-e@suse.com" <suse-linux-e@suse.com>
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Someone accidently sent a possible solution to my mailbox: ---------- Doorgestuurd bericht ---------- Subject: Re: [SLE] NVidia +Sax2 +GLX - Cannot enable 3D Date: Mon, 26 Aug 2002 16:50:56 +0200 From: Gerhard den Hollander <gerhard@jason.nl> To: Z_God <zeldario@wanadoo.nl> * Z_God <zeldario@wanadoo.nl> (Mon, Aug 26, 2002 at 12:09:45PM +0200)
Weird problem, have you ever had it working before (other distro, older driver)? Maybe you could try an older driver from the NVidia ftp site. You should also try mailing NVidia about the problem.
TTry the attched XF86Config file. Works like a charm. Sax2 has issues w/ NVidia crads
Op zondag 25 augustus 2002 18:31, schreef suse:
Yes, linux:~ # rpm -qg NVIDIA group NVIDIA does not contain any packages linux:~ # rpm -q NVIDIA_kernel NVIDIA_kernel-1.0-2960 linux:~ # rpm -q NVIDIA_GLX NVIDIA_GLX-1.0-2960 linux:~ #
On Sunday 25 August 2002 10:46, Z_God wrote:
Are you sure you have the driver from NVidia installed? If not, you can install it with YOU.
Op zondag 25 augustus 2002 10:24, schreef suse:
Subject: NVidia +Sax2 +GLX - Cannot enable 3D Date: Sun, 25 Aug 2002 00:18:17 +0100 From: SuSE <suse@syrene.fsnet.co.uk> To: "suse-linux-e@suse.com" <suse-linux-e@suse.com>
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I downloaded and installed the latest SuSE specific drivers from NVIDIA (1.0-3123). with no improvement I then installed the tar.gz versions and ran switch2nvidia then switch2nvidia_glx. switch2nvidia_glx failed complaining about the NVIDIA_kernel package and suggesting a re-install. I did this for both NVIDIA_kernel.*.rpm and NVIDIA_GLX.*.rpm As root (not su) I then ran "startx -- -logverbose 5 -verbose 5" intending to capture further error messages. Imagine my surprise when KDE started successfully! :) Preliminary investigation shows that the tar.gz version of the GLX package contains X11 library files which were not in the SuSE versions of the binary rpms. Am I right? Should I forward this message to anyone else? Now that I have working 3D - evidenced by superfast "gears" can someone tell me the usual command to collect GL performance stats? Thanks to all who contributed - THIS LIST RULES! :) -- Twist it, stomp it, bounce it, shake it 'Cos you know the vibe is what you make it
I've had the same issues lately with 8.0 and the newest nVidia drivers. 4 of my co-workers machines just puke on these binary only drivers. I walked into work on Thursday when to startx and behold...*death*. X wouldn't start..I hadn't changed anything accept that I notices when I did apt-get upgrade I got a new xf86tools pkgs. I reverted to the older pkg and it still puked. At this point I've said screw nVidia both at home and at work. I went out and bought an ATI Radeon 7500 for work because it's preformed so well at home. Brought it back to work..and 10 minutes later..DRI+GLX worked at a res of 1600X1200..*sweet* :) There is something cockeyed with the new driver and SuSE's X updates. * Z_God (zeldario@wanadoo.nl) [020825 03:10]: ::Are you sure you have the driver from NVidia installed? ::If not, you can install it with YOU. :: ::Op zondag 25 augustus 2002 10:24, schreef suse: ::> Subject: NVidia +Sax2 +GLX - Cannot enable 3D ::> Date: Sun, 25 Aug 2002 00:18:17 +0100 ::> From: SuSE <suse@syrene.fsnet.co.uk> ::> To: "suse-linux-e@suse.com" <suse-linux-e@suse.com> ::> ::> Sorry for the size but I have attached ::> /etc/X11/XF86Config ::> /var/log/Sax.log ::> ::> As for ` /var/log/XFree86.0.log ` it is over 24k and reports no errors ::> ::> Sax fails when I choose to enable 3D support ::> ::> OTOH, 3Ddiag reports I need to include : ::> `Load "GLX" ` ::> and specify ` "nvidia" ` as the driver. ::> ::> If I do this manually, X still fails to start. :: :: ::-- ::Check the headers for your unsubscription address ::For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com ::Also check the archives at http://lists.suse.com ::Please read the FAQs: suse-linux-e-faq@suse.com :: -- Ben Rosenberg ---===---===---===--- mailto:ben@whack.org Tell me what you believe.. I tell you what you should see.
* Ben Rosenberg (ben@whack.org) [020825 10:58]: ::I've had the same issues lately with 8.0 and the newest nVidia drivers. ::4 of my co-workers machines just puke on these binary only drivers. I ::walked into work on Thursday when to startx and behold...*death*. X ::wouldn't start..I hadn't changed anything accept that I notices when I Ok..based on how stupid I sound in the above paragraph. I'm going to refrain from sending out email in the first 10 minutes of being awake in the morning. oh my. -- Ben Rosenberg ---===---===---===--- mailto:ben@whack.org Tell me what you believe.. I tell you what you should see.
On Sunday 25 August 2002 5:57 pm, Ben Rosenberg wrote:
I've had the same issues lately with 8.0 and the newest nVidia drivers. 4 of my co-workers machines just puke on these binary only drivers. I walked into work on Thursday when to startx and behold...*death*. X wouldn't start..I hadn't changed anything accept that I notices when I did apt-get upgrade I got a new xf86tools pkgs. I reverted to the older pkg and it still puked. At this point I've said screw nVidia both at home and at work. I went out and bought an ATI Radeon 7500 for work because it's preformed so well at home. Brought it back to work..and 10 minutes later..DRI+GLX worked at a res of 1600X1200..*sweet* :)
Interesting. I'm considering trying a Radeon 7500 now, because getting the nVidia drivers installed is a nightmare. How do you change the video card - just run SaX2? Kevin
* Kevin Donnelly (kevin@dotmon.com) [020825 13:35]: :: ::Interesting. I'm considering trying a Radeon 7500 now, because getting the ::nVidia drivers installed is a nightmare. How do you change the video card - ::just run SaX2? :: Yes, I made sure all the current XFree86 pkgs were installed and up to date. I then just ran sax2 and it pretty much just setup everything for me. You have to make sure that the XFree86 GLX and DRI pkgs are there but this is pretty simple. It was the fastest graphics card install I've had in years and the preformance is really good. -- Ben Rosenberg ---===---===---===--- mailto:ben@whack.org Tell me what you believe.. I tell you what you should see.
Hi Ben, It just so happens I have a 7500 being sent out to me by a friend who doesn't use it anymore....so out of curiosity do you play any Q3,UT or such? If so do you have an opinion on there performance with that card? Following this thread has made me very anxious to get that card in my grubby hands ;) Cheers On Sun, 2002-08-25 at 13:54, Ben Rosenberg wrote:
* Kevin Donnelly (kevin@dotmon.com) [020825 13:35]: :: ::Interesting. I'm considering trying a Radeon 7500 now, because getting the ::nVidia drivers installed is a nightmare. How do you change the video card - ::just run SaX2? ::
Yes, I made sure all the current XFree86 pkgs were installed and up to date. I then just ran sax2 and it pretty much just setup everything for me. You have to make sure that the XFree86 GLX and DRI pkgs are there but this is pretty simple. It was the fastest graphics card install I've had in years and the preformance is really good.
-- Ben Rosenberg ---===---===---===--- mailto:ben@whack.org Tell me what you believe.. I tell you what you should see.
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* Mark Doucette (kranked@telus.net) [020825 15:22]: ::Hi Ben, :: ::It just so happens I have a 7500 being sent out to me by a friend who ::doesn't use it anymore....so out of curiosity do you play any Q3,UT or ::such? If so do you have an opinion on there performance with that card? :: ::Following this thread has made me very anxious to get that card in my ::grubby hands ;) Yep..I tested each and everyone..they all run flawlessly. And because I went from a Diamond Viper 770 Ultra (TNT2) to this Radeon...it's quite a bit faster. All the games look good and run pretty fast. I can't say what a GeForce4 or Radeon 9700 would do with them, but I'm happy. And I can say this..if there's a problem with something *I'LL* say it. You can count on that. :) (ben@zeus) games> ls -la [16:59 02-08-25] total 48 drwxr-xr-x 12 root root 4096 May 31 19:20 . drwxr-xr-x 24 root root 4096 Jul 10 11:29 .. drwxr-xr-x 5 root root 4096 Jul 28 2001 Loki_Demos drwxr-xr-x 16 root root 4096 Jun 1 2001 dockingstation drwxr-xr-x 5 root root 4096 Feb 24 2001 heretic2 drwxr-xr-x 14 root root 4096 Feb 24 2001 hg2 drwxr-xr-x 5 root root 4096 May 25 2001 quake3 drwxr-xr-x 10 root root 4096 Sep 4 2001 rune drwxr-xr-x 4 root root 4096 Feb 24 2001 sof drwxr-xr-x 5 root root 4096 Jun 22 23:38 tribes2 drwxr-xr-x 12 root root 4096 May 22 2001 ut drwxr-xr-x 4 root root 4096 Jan 21 2002 wolfenstein-spdemo -- Ben Rosenberg ---===---===---===--- mailto:ben@whack.org Tell me what you believe.. I tell you what you should see.
Thanks for the heads up Ben, I'm very anxious for this card now as I have a tnt2 ultrat at the moment as well. Looks like you play alot of the same dern games I do...perhaps some dm is in order? ;) Well I had better wait until I get a decent connection back b4 I ask about that stuff lol. Cheers, and thanks again On Sun, 2002-08-25 at 17:01, Ben Rosenberg wrote:
* Mark Doucette (kranked@telus.net) [020825 15:22]: ::Hi Ben, :: ::It just so happens I have a 7500 being sent out to me by a friend who ::doesn't use it anymore....so out of curiosity do you play any Q3,UT or ::such? If so do you have an opinion on there performance with that card? :: ::Following this thread has made me very anxious to get that card in my ::grubby hands ;)
Yep..I tested each and everyone..they all run flawlessly. And because I went from a Diamond Viper 770 Ultra (TNT2) to this Radeon...it's quite a bit faster. All the games look good and run pretty fast. I can't say what a GeForce4 or Radeon 9700 would do with them, but I'm happy. And I can say this..if there's a problem with something *I'LL* say it. You can count on that. :)
(ben@zeus) games> ls -la [16:59 02-08-25] total 48 drwxr-xr-x 12 root root 4096 May 31 19:20 . drwxr-xr-x 24 root root 4096 Jul 10 11:29 .. drwxr-xr-x 5 root root 4096 Jul 28 2001 Loki_Demos drwxr-xr-x 16 root root 4096 Jun 1 2001 dockingstation drwxr-xr-x 5 root root 4096 Feb 24 2001 heretic2 drwxr-xr-x 14 root root 4096 Feb 24 2001 hg2 drwxr-xr-x 5 root root 4096 May 25 2001 quake3 drwxr-xr-x 10 root root 4096 Sep 4 2001 rune drwxr-xr-x 4 root root 4096 Feb 24 2001 sof drwxr-xr-x 5 root root 4096 Jun 22 23:38 tribes2 drwxr-xr-x 12 root root 4096 May 22 2001 ut drwxr-xr-x 4 root root 4096 Jan 21 2002 wolfenstein-spdemo
-- Ben Rosenberg ---===---===---===--- mailto:ben@whack.org Tell me what you believe.. I tell you what you should see.
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If you go with a Radeon and its drivers do you "taint the kernel" so to speak ? - as is the case with Nvidia. Brian Marr On Monday 26 August 2002 07:51, Mark Doucette wrote:
Hi Ben,
It just so happens I have a 7500 being sent out to me by a friend who doesn't use it anymore....so out of curiosity do you play any Q3,UT or such? If so do you have an opinion on there performance with that card?
Following this thread has made me very anxious to get that card in my grubby hands ;)
Cheers
On Sun, 2002-08-25 at 13:54, Ben Rosenberg wrote:
* Kevin Donnelly (kevin@dotmon.com) [020825 13:35]: ::Interesting. I'm considering trying a Radeon 7500 now, because getting :: the nVidia drivers installed is a nightmare. How do you change the :: video card - just run SaX2?
Yes, I made sure all the current XFree86 pkgs were installed and up to date. I then just ran sax2 and it pretty much just setup everything for me. You have to make sure that the XFree86 GLX and DRI pkgs are there but this is pretty simple. It was the fastest graphics card install I've had in years and the preformance is really good.
-- Ben Rosenberg ---===---===---===--- mailto:ben@whack.org Tell me what you believe.. I tell you what you should see.
-- Check the headers for your unsubscription address For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the archives at http://lists.suse.com Please read the FAQs: suse-linux-e-faq@suse.com
* Brian Marr (cabernet@internode.on.net) [020825 16:28]: ::If you go with a Radeon and its drivers do you "taint the kernel" so to speak ::? - as is the case with Nvidia. 7500 = Open Source drivers (kernel module, GLX and DRI) 8500 = Binary only for now. (ATI opens the spec when they concider the card to be old even though it may not really be that old) Cheers! -- Ben Rosenberg ---===---===---===--- mailto:ben@whack.org Tell me what you believe.. I tell you what you should see.
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