[opensuse] Can't Build Search Index in KDE Help Center

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Robert W Best

8 Dec 2007 8 Dec '07

11:49

Using SuSE 10.3 the Build Search Index - KDE Help Center panel lists indices for all documents as missing. Click on Build Index does not work, the status remains missing for all selected documents. Searching for 'bluetooth' for instance gives garbage like khc_htsearch.pl --indexdir=/home/robert/.kde/share/apps/khelpcenter/index/ --config=book_opensuse_startupen --words=bluetooth --method=and --maxnum=5 --lang=en Robert -- http://rwbest.no.sapo.pt/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

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d_garbage

8 Dec 8 Dec

14:24

On Sat, 08 Dec 2007 11:49:29 -0000, Robert W Best wrote:

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Using SuSE 10.3 the Build Search Index - KDE Help Center panel lists indices for all documents as missing. Click on Build Index does not work, the status remains missing for all selected documents.

Searching for 'bluetooth' for instance gives garbage like

khc_htsearch.pl --indexdir=/home/robert/.kde/share/apps/khelpcenter/index/ --config=book_opensuse_startupen --words=bluetooth --method=and --maxnum=5 --lang=en

Robert

Hi Robert, Seems the Help center needs a prog called "htdig" to build the index (if you click "details" tab when building it says something like "htdig failed" i remember). If that is your case, try installing htdig and build index again. HTH, David -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Robert W Best

15:17

On Saturday 08 December 2007 14:24:11 d_garbage wrote:

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On Sat, 08 Dec 2007 11:49:29 -0000, Robert W Best wrote:

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Using SuSE 10.3 the Build Search Index - KDE Help Center panel lists indices for all documents as missing. Click on Build Index does not work, the status remains missing for all selected documents. Robert

Hi Robert, Seems the Help center needs a prog called "htdig" to build the index (if you click "details" tab when building it says something like "htdig failed" i remember). If that is your case, try installing htdig and build index again. HTH, David Thanks David, index building works now.

I wonder why htdig is not included in the SuSE 10.3 distro. I had to add SuSE 10.2 as software repo. Also wine is missing in SuSE 10.3 - why? It's essential! Robert -- http://rwbest.no.sapo.pt/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

d_garbage

17:20

New subject: [opensuse] Can't Build Search Index in KDE Help Center - missing htdig

On Sat, 08 Dec 2007 15:17:48 -0000, Robert W Best wrote:

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I wonder why htdig is not included in the SuSE 10.3 distro. I had to add SuSE 10.2 as software repo. Also wine is missing in SuSE 10.3 - why? It's essential!

Robert

Hi Robert, I have both htdig and wine in the 10.3 oss repo (htdig has an update in the update repo too). Perhaps double check your setup? I'm using download.opensuse.org, as provided by the yast "Community Repositories" function. Cheers, David -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Robert W Best

9 Dec 9 Dec

08:52

New subject: [opensuse] Can't Build Search Index in KDE Help Center - missing htdig

On Sat, 08 Dec 2007 15:17:48 -0000, Robert W Best wrote:

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I wonder why htdig is not included in the SuSE 10.3 distro. I had to add SuSE 10.2 as software repo. Also wine is missing in SuSE 10.3 - why? It's essential! Robert

17:20:58 d_garbage wrote:

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Hi Robert, I have both htdig and wine in the 10.3 oss repo (htdig has an update in the update repo too). Perhaps double check your setup? I'm using download.opensuse.org, as provided by the yast "Community Repositories" function. Cheers, David

21:15 Carlos E R wrote:

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You are wrong: both are included.

Hello, I use DVDs that go with Linux Magazine, SuSE 10.2 and 10.3 with issues 75 and 85. YaST can't find htdig or wine in SuSE 10.3. I had bad experience with opensuse.org repo, YaST takes ages to start. Maybe you enjoy very fast Internet connection? I live in a rural area in Portugal - the weather is much better here! Robert -- http://rwbest.no.sapo.pt/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Carlos E. R.

12:15

New subject: [opensuse] Can't Build Search Index in KDE Help Center - missing htdig

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 The Sunday 2007-12-09 at 08:52 -0000, Robert W Best wrote:

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21:15 Carlos E R wrote:

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You are wrong: both are included.

Hello, I use DVDs that go with Linux Magazine, SuSE 10.2 and 10.3 with issues 75 and 85. YaST can't find htdig or wine in SuSE 10.3.

I had bad experience with opensuse.org repo, YaST takes ages to start. Maybe you enjoy very fast Internet connection? I live in a rural area in Portugal - the weather is much better here!

Yes, I agree that using repositories with anything less than an ADSL connection, is a real PITA. However... instead of using the download.opensuse.org redirector, you can use another repo that works faster for you. I think I remember reading about one on a portuguese usinversity, perhaps: http://en.opensuse.org/Mirrors_Released_Version#Portugal You will have to browse a bit to find where is the corresponding update directory for those mirrors. Or, you could buy the boxed edition: two double layer DVDs, they contain more. Or mirror into an external usb drive the entire oss / non oss repos from an internet cafe... - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4-svn0 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFHW9xgtTMYHG2NR9URAhYxAJ95bsG1gjGLZaF4x7RuEcQO7AbIPQCeLTu3 q1+G9viKGXaJmG2F7ssZyDI= =ofMb -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Jan Ritzerfeld

12:36

New subject: [opensuse] Can't Build Search Index in KDE Help Center - missing htdig

Am Sonntag, 9. Dezember 2007 schrieb Carlos E. R.:

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The Sunday 2007-12-09 at 08:52 -0000, Robert W Best wrote:

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21:15 Carlos E R wrote:

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You are wrong: both are included.

Hello, I use DVDs that go with Linux Magazine, SuSE 10.2 and 10.3 with issues 75 and 85. YaST can't find htdig or wine in SuSE 10.3.

I had bad experience with opensuse.org repo, YaST takes ages to start. Maybe you enjoy very fast Internet connection? I live in a rural area in Portugal - the weather is much better here!

This was true for 10.2 but the repository handling in 10.3 was improved a lot!

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Yes, I agree that using repositories with anything less than an ADSL connection, is a real PITA.

However... instead of using the download.opensuse.org redirector, you can use another repo that works faster for you. I think I remember reading about one on a portuguese usinversity, perhaps: [...] Or, you could buy the boxed edition: two double layer DVDs, they contain more. Or mirror into an external usb drive the entire oss / non oss repos

Or, you can use the "Software Search"[0] and then the "1-Click Install"[1] for 10.3. In this case, no additional repository needs to be added permanently. Doing so, there is no delay for "everydays" work with YaST. HTH Jan [0] http://packages.opensuse-community.org/ [1] http://en.opensuse.org/Standards/One_Click_Install -- Who is John Galt? -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Carlos E. R.

13:39

New subject: [opensuse] Slow updates over modem - [Was: Can't Build Search Index in KDE Help Center - missing htdig]

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 The Sunday 2007-12-09 at 13:36 +0100, Jan Ritzerfeld wrote:

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I had bad experience with opensuse.org repo, YaST takes ages to start. Maybe you enjoy very fast Internet connection? I live in a rural area in Portugal - the weather is much better here!

This was true for 10.2 but the repository handling in 10.3 was improved a lot!

Yes, that's true, but you just pick out your old modem from the cupboard, and try updating anything using the modem. Then we talk. Now add to the equation a metered connection, pay per minute. Add bad, long, rural lines. Some rural places use a cellular fixed telephone, meaning even lower bandwidth. - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4-svn0 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFHW/ACtTMYHG2NR9URAmRDAJwO67iHWHn4BXrf+Uq9Mvl6Cu6rPQCfUvuT OdrvywXF+hbT+Y8F8DRN4Q8= =Xmey -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Jan Ritzerfeld

15:56

New subject: [opensuse] Slow updates over modem

Am Sonntag, 9. Dezember 2007 schrieb Carlos E. R.:

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The Sunday 2007-12-09 at 13:36 +0100, Jan Ritzerfeld wrote:

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I had bad experience with opensuse.org repo, YaST takes ages to start. Maybe you enjoy very fast Internet connection? I live in a rural area in Portugal - the weather is much better here!

This was true for 10.2 but the repository handling in 10.3 was improved a lot!

Yes, that's true, but you just pick out your old modem from the cupboard, and try updating anything using the modem. Then we talk. [...]

But this problem is completely independent of the time starting YaST takes! The main repository changes seldomly, see http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/10.3/repo/oss/suse/repodata/ It has been never changed since the release of 10.3. Thus, there is no strong need to activate the automatic refresh in YaST for such a repository. Consequently, there will not take place any data transfer when starting YaST, AFAIK. BTW: IIRC, Robert never talked about "slow updates" but had problems after adding the main repository in the past. Thus, the new subject is somewhat misleading, IMHO. Jan -- Do not tell big lies. Small ones can be just as effective. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Carlos E. R.

10 Dec 10 Dec

00:13

New subject: [opensuse] Slow updates over modem

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 The Sunday 2007-12-09 at 16:56 +0100, Jan Ritzerfeld wrote:

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Am Sonntag, 9. Dezember 2007 schrieb Carlos E. R.:

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The Sunday 2007-12-09 at 13:36 +0100, Jan Ritzerfeld wrote:

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I had bad experience with opensuse.org repo, YaST takes ages to start. Maybe you enjoy very fast Internet connection? I live in a rural area in Portugal - the weather is much better here!

This was true for 10.2 but the repository handling in 10.3 was improved a lot!

Yes, that's true, but you just pick out your old modem from the cupboard, and try updating anything using the modem. Then we talk. [...]

But this problem is completely independent of the time starting YaST takes! The main repository changes seldomly, see http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/10.3/repo/oss/suse/repodata/ It has been never changed since the release of 10.3. Thus, there is no strong need to activate the automatic refresh in YaST for such a repository. Consequently, there will not take place any data transfer when starting YaST, AFAIK.

Maybe... I didn't think of that. However... when you are about to start the software management module you need to start the network too, even if it's only to find updates to packages in the dvd. The user doesn't know at what point is the network going to be needed, so the network (ie, the modem) would be started at the start - or on demand, if so configured. And if you configure a repo like packman, things get much worse.

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BTW: IIRC, Robert never talked about "slow updates" but had problems after adding the main repository in the past. Thus, the new subject is somewhat misleading, IMHO.

Well, yes, my choice was not very fortunate. O:-) - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4-svn0 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFHXISUtTMYHG2NR9URAjLKAJ9lttm2dI6HFnMiuthYo1FUXWjd+wCfYTRV FgBZhbec9KH10SdpeeVaChU= =j5wG -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Robert W Best

10:52

New subject: [opensuse] Repo mirror - was: Can't Build Search Index in KDE Help Center

On Sunday 09 December 2007 12:15:26 Carlos E. R. wrote:

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The Sunday 2007-12-09 at 08:52 -0000, Robert W Best wrote:

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I had bad experience with opensuse.org repo, YaST takes ages to start. Maybe you enjoy very fast Internet connection? I live in a rural area in Portugal - the weather is much better here!

Yes, I agree that using repositories with anything less than an ADSL connection, is a real PITA.

I enjoy ADSL since last year, but it's slow for USA servers. For Portugal it can do 100 KB/s ~ 1Mb/s.

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However... instead of using the download.opensuse.org redirector, you can use another repo that works faster for you. I think I remember reading about one on a portuguese usinversity, perhaps:

http://en.opensuse.org/Mirrors_Released_Version#Portugal

Good advice! I added openSUSE-10.3-FTP 10.3 /pub/opensuse/distribution/10.3/repo/oss/ on cesium.di.uminho.pt (Braga univ) and it works fine. Robert -- http://rwbest.no.sapo.pt/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Carlos E. R.

12:03

New subject: [opensuse] Repo mirror - was: Can't Build Search Index in KDE Help Center

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 The Monday 2007-12-10 at 10:52 -0000, Robert W Best wrote:

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Yes, I agree that using repositories with anything less than an ADSL connection, is a real PITA.

I enjoy ADSL since last year, but it's slow for USA servers. For Portugal it can do 100 KB/s ~ 1Mb/s.

Well, of course, European server work better for us. I guessed your problem wrong, it seems :-)

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However... instead of using the download.opensuse.org redirector, you can use another repo that works faster for you. I think I remember reading about one on a portuguese usinversity, perhaps:

http://en.opensuse.org/Mirrors_Released_Version#Portugal

Good advice! I added openSUSE-10.3-FTP 10.3 /pub/opensuse/distribution/10.3/repo/oss/ on cesium.di.uminho.pt (Braga univ) and it works fine.

Good! - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4-svn0 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFHXSsDtTMYHG2NR9URAj5FAJ93N9BS9DHQDQ8Jv8XYPLqP8kDdswCfcmIY VPPjHk1hJ2UEgefQr6DEMY4= =9h5T -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

James Mohr

9 Dec 9 Dec

12:52

New subject: [opensuse] Can't Build Search Index in KDE Help Center - missing htdig

On Sunday 09 December 2007 09:52, Robert W Best wrote:

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Hello, I use DVDs that go with Linux Magazine, SuSE 10.2 and 10.3 with issues 75 and 85. YaST can't find htdig or wine in SuSE 10.3.

Based on the issue numbers, I am assuming that you are referring to the European version of Linux Magazine. There is one in the US with the same name, but is published by someone else. The European version is published in the US as Linux Magazine Pro. Do you subscribe or buy it off the rack? Just curious. Regards, jimmo -- --------------------------------------- "Be more concerned with your character than with your reputation. Your character is what you really are while your reputation is merely what others think you are." -- John Wooden --------------------------------------- Be sure to visit the Linux Tutorial: http://www.linux-tutorial.info --------------------------------------- NOTE: All messages sent to me in response to my posts to newsgroups or forums are subject to reposting. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Robert W Best

20:24

New subject: [opensuse] Linux Mags - was Can't Build Search Index in KDE Help Center

On Sunday 09 December 2007 12:52:58 James Mohr wrote:

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On Sunday 09 December 2007 09:52, Robert W Best wrote:

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Hello, I use DVDs that go with Linux Magazine, SuSE 10.2 and 10.3 with issues 75 and 85. YaST can't find htdig or wine in SuSE 10.3.

Based on the issue numbers, I am assuming that you are referring to the European version of Linux Magazine. There is one in the US with the same name, but is published by someone else. The European version is published in the US as Linux Magazine Pro. Do you subscribe or buy it off the rack? Just curious.

Regards, jimmo

I've a subscription on the English Linux Magazine including DVDs. The website of this version is http://www.linux-magazine.com For other language versions see http://www.linuxnewmedia.com/Products There exists also a Dutch Linux Magazine, see http://www.linuxmag.nl Robert -- http://rwbest.no.sapo.pt/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Michael S. Dunsavage

22:11

New subject: [opensuse] Linux Mags - was Can't Build Search Index in KDE Help Center

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I've a subscription on the English Linux Magazine including DVDs. The website of this version is http://www.linux-magazine.com For other language versions see http://www.linuxnewmedia.com/Products There exists also a Dutch Linux Magazine, see http://www.linuxmag.nl

Robert -- http://rwbest.no.sapo.pt/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

I've had a subscription to both Linux Magazine and Linux Journal and I prefer LJ over the Magazine. (www.linuxjournal.com) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

James Knott

22:52

New subject: [opensuse] Linux Mags - was Can't Build Search Index in KDE Help Center

Michael S. Dunsavage wrote:

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I've a subscription on the English Linux Magazine including DVDs. The website of this version is http://www.linux-magazine.com For other language versions see http://www.linuxnewmedia.com/Products There exists also a Dutch Linux Magazine, see http://www.linuxmag.nl

Robert -- http://rwbest.no.sapo.pt/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

I've had a subscription to both Linux Magazine and Linux Journal and I prefer LJ over the Magazine. (www.linuxjournal.com)

Me too. I found Linux Magazine to be lacking in substance. -- Use OpenOffice.org http://www.openoffice.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Kai Ponte

23:15

New subject: [opensuse] Linux Mags - was Can't Build Search Index in KDE Help Center

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I've had a subscription to both Linux Magazine and Linux Journal and I prefer LJ over the Magazine. (www.linuxjournal.com)

Me too. I found Linux Magazine to be lacking in substance.

Funny - I find just the opposite. There are tons of articles in LM that I read and learn from while LJ contains mostly system admin stuff I could care less about. Oh, and LM this month is shipping with openSUSE 10.3 :) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Carlos E. R.

8 Dec 8 Dec

21:15

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 The Saturday 2007-12-08 at 15:17 -0000, Robert W Best wrote:

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I wonder why htdig is not included in the SuSE 10.3 distro. I had to add SuSE 10.2 as software repo. Also wine is missing in SuSE 10.3 - why? It's essential!

You are wrong: both are included. - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4-svn0 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFHWwl7tTMYHG2NR9URAmuhAJ9+estcckktzmbNsL5952WWQNuz3ACfS7iB DQTQN8aOxcXfx0OBv6yaI8A= =8R48 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

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