-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 The Tuesday 2005-12-27 at 15:11 -0500, LDB wrote:

I know I had to use secure POP3 (port 995) to get my mail not the default POP3 port.

I know, that is properly configured since day one. As I said, it worked for a week or two, then it stoped working without me changing anything. The problem is in their side, not mine. Proof: my .fetchmailrc is dated Dec 9, and it stopped working in the afternoon of Dec 14 - I keep detailed logs; see: Dec 14 14:18:57 it worked. Dec 14 14:20:31 it did not. <===== Dec 14 15:54:14 it worked again. Dec 14 15:55:57 same. Dec 14 16:04:43 same. Dec 14 16:06:34 same. Dec 15 11:27:25 didn't work. and never worked again. It is impossible that I could change something in so little time, 90 seconds. Dec 14 14:18:55 nimrodel fetchmail[13065]: POP3> USER **@gmail.com Dec 14 14:18:56 nimrodel fetchmail[13065]: POP3< +OK send PASS Dec 14 14:18:56 nimrodel fetchmail[13065]: POP3> PASS * Dec 14 14:18:57 nimrodel fetchmail[13065]: POP3< +OK Welcome. Dec 14 14:19:00 nimrodel fetchmail[13065]: POP3> STAT Dec 14 14:19:00 nimrodel fetchmail[13065]: POP3< +OK 8 24000 ... Dec 14 14:20:20 nimrodel fetchmail[13359]: POP3> USER **@gmail.com Dec 14 14:20:21 nimrodel fetchmail[13359]: POP3< +OK send PASS Dec 14 14:20:21 nimrodel fetchmail[13359]: POP3> PASS * Dec 14 14:20:31 nimrodel fetchmail[13359]: POP3< +OK [SYS/TEMP] Due to a temporary system problem, this mailbox will seem empty. Dec 14 14:20:34 nimrodel fetchmail[13359]: POP3> STAT Dec 14 14:20:34 nimrodel fetchmail[13359]: POP3< +OK 0 0 Dec 14 14:20:34 nimrodel fetchmail[13359]: No mail for ***@gmail.com at pop.gmail.com - -- Cheers, Carlos Robinson -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.0 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Made with pgp4pine 1.76 iD8DBQFDsdOhtTMYHG2NR9URAk0+AJ0Zv6ygoyG1PuOB61wAN/YPOSIkrQCfb3nX 5xkzNEXEM7e8vHyW+w+uAb0= =okbg -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 The Tuesday 2005-12-27 at 16:55 -0700, John Meyer wrote:

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I know, that is properly configured since day one. As I said, it worked for a week or two, then it stoped working without me changing anything. The problem is in their side, not mine. Okay, can you fetch your mail off of the web client?

Certainly. - -- Cheers, Carlos Robinson -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.0 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Made with pgp4pine 1.76 iD8DBQFDsekvtTMYHG2NR9URArVpAJ41QwtzuLzHoJU5490RTzYGOaIJsACdEL5Z IbSppu/NPe9eLnc/sRwJkys= =blVh -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 The Wednesday 2005-12-28 at 18:09 -0000, Kevanf1 wrote:

It may be because GMail is still actually in development and is possibly subject to changes. They may be minor or major changes.

I know.

Have you tried contacting Google about it?

I googled, found some people reporting the exact same problem, and I know some contacted gmail without being answered. There is no mention of such a problem in gmail help, faq, whatever.

I know, not easy :-(

It is not utterly important, this tiscali account works better than gmail, but I was testing it as a possiblity. It has some snags (aside from this pop3 problem), like that it identifies as duplicates mails sent diferent ways, like from the list and direct: I only see the direct copy, the one from the list is discarded. Another snag is that downloading is slow, but if I can not download email, it is completely useless to me. - -- Cheers, Carlos Robinson -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.0 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Made with pgp4pine 1.76 iD8DBQFDsy5mtTMYHG2NR9URAl57AJsFtvTk8uJqXoK+A380aHMLOqRoOQCeNve8 jx8b31El/SqKyXOA4tFgNDU= =kT8D -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 The Friday 2005-12-30 at 10:04 -0800, Carl William Spitzer IV wrote:

If thats the case check their site for the pop3 and smtp addresses. It could be that they changed. MyRealBox does the same periodically to frustrate spammers.

No, nothing of the sort. The server is there and it answers and allows login et all: it just says there is no new email, when there are hundreds. - -- Cheers, Carlos Robinson -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.0 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Made with pgp4pine 1.76 iD8DBQFDtckYtTMYHG2NR9URAkv2AKCJKPvkIDrHVwbJlYlAoSPwr7LwygCfbeS2 my58sHS3q7bdCX2VchB7je4= =oM0r -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 The Saturday 2005-12-31 at 09:24 -0800, Carl William Spitzer IV wrote:

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No, nothing of the sort. The server is there and it answers and allows login et all: it just says there is no new email, when there are hundreds.

http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/t41552-the-complete-guide-to-using-gmail-wi...

Nothing new there. There is a fine guide at gmail site. I wish I could make myself understood... :-( I repeat that it worked, then it stopped working. There is nothing wrong with my configuration. Unless that page mentions the exact error I'm seeing, it is useless.

Try this and if you still cant get in check their pop and smtp addresses.

http://www.iopus.com/guides/bestpopsmtp.htm

do you have ssl setup??

Yes. I repeat that it is not a problem with my configuration. See the logs: Dec 14 14:18:55 nimrodel fetchmail[13065]: POP3> USER **@gmail.com Dec 14 14:18:56 nimrodel fetchmail[13065]: POP3< +OK send PASS Dec 14 14:18:56 nimrodel fetchmail[13065]: POP3> PASS * Dec 14 14:18:57 nimrodel fetchmail[13065]: POP3< +OK Welcome. Dec 14 14:19:00 nimrodel fetchmail[13065]: POP3> STAT Dec 14 14:19:00 nimrodel fetchmail[13065]: POP3< +OK 8 24000 It worked. It had been working for weeks. Then, a minute and a half later, in the same run, it didn't: Dec 14 14:20:20 nimrodel fetchmail[13359]: POP3> USER **@gmail.com Dec 14 14:20:21 nimrodel fetchmail[13359]: POP3< +OK send PASS Dec 14 14:20:21 nimrodel fetchmail[13359]: POP3> PASS * * Dec 14 14:20:31 nimrodel fetchmail[13359]: POP3< +OK [SYS/TEMP] Due to a temporary system problem, this mailbox will seem empty. Dec 14 14:20:34 nimrodel fetchmail[13359]: POP3> STAT Dec 14 14:20:34 nimrodel fetchmail[13359]: POP3< +OK 0 0 Dec 14 14:20:34 nimrodel fetchmail[13359]: No mail for ***@gmail.com at pop.gmail.com *** Notice that I can log in perfectly, *** *** it just says there is no new email. *** - From then on, it did not ever work again. I have not changed my configuration, it is dated Dec 9th. Therefore, it is not my configuration! So, please, lets stop this subject. Unless somebody knows something specific to the _exact_ error some of us are seeing, more chit-chat is useless and OT. - -- Cheers, Carlos Robinson -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.0 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Made with pgp4pine 1.76 iD8DBQFDt8xVtTMYHG2NR9URApXDAJ9cxK5XilhPMT7ME9s8mmaMFiEQsACeI4S+ UHQFKRjmiQNlWSXbNSMX/EE= =RKWz -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 The Tuesday 2005-12-27 at 13:12 -0700, John Meyer wrote:

I've been fetching my gmail through POP all this time with no problem. Do you have yourself configured for SSL?

Of course, see my other email in this thread. As I said there, it was working fine, then 90 seconds later, it did not, without me changing anything. - -- Cheers, Carlos Robinson -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.0 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Made with pgp4pine 1.76 iD8DBQFDsc6ztTMYHG2NR9URAucGAJ0QZcvFzgtAZW8ObR+QodMKhccwsgCghjjG VUfHJ44pmzLM0a2RTF844Mg= =Am10 -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 The Thursday 2005-12-29 at 06:33 +0200, roach wrote:

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But this "temporary" error hasn't changed since Dec 14, when it started. I have googled, and found an email thread in "debian-user" ([OT] Gmail POP fails), with some people

Me.

It's kind of comforting to know we are not alone :-}

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reporting the exact same error even earlier than me, with diferent email configurations, but no solution.

Still no solution here.

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I have not found any mention of this in gmail help either.

Ditto, I also contacted Gmail on 29 November and have yet to receive a responce. Personally I don't think POP access is a priority for Gmail - they make their money from ad's, which you don't see with POP.

Possibly. But some providers also send publicity in the email (it says so in the "contract"), or separate emails. It's interesting to note how many hit points they get from Spam Assassin ;-) I had to white-list them, my conscience was itching a bit :-p

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How about you people? Any clues, pointers?

I finally gave up and deleted 20MB of the 22MB of backed-up mail in my Gmail account. The last 2MB I archived and then, with an empty Gmail inbox, I sent a message to myself from my Mighty account.

I then tried to download it from Gmail - it worked for the first time in 26 days. I managed to download mail.

Ah!

I then let some list mail in (no attachment, nothing funny) and tried to download again. Nothing, lockup - same error message as above.

Oh :-(

Remove, try again. Send myself mail, download - success.

Conclusion: My Gmail account doesn't like list mail. :-(

Yagh. But there are a good number of people using gmail on this list! Oh, well, perhaps they use webmail...

I've given up on Gmail...

...maybe later?

Sorry I can't give you good news, Carlos. :-(

No, you clarified what you have already tried. We know there is nothing we can do on our side except complain. I'll let the account fill up unread... it will not show nice in their stats. When I have time, I'll find out whom to complain, and I will do so - - with a note not to bother answering till the problem is solved, as I will not see it. Let us leave this tread here, unless there is further development, so that others can find it in the archive and know there is no solution. - -- Cheers, Carlos Robinson -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.0 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Made with pgp4pine 1.76 iD8DBQFDtD5ZtTMYHG2NR9URApnnAJ9sl95zvVTJ+c1KgyBsWZWNdM1BiQCeJdJw bpyVJKpDx7x+xD31dTZVq8k= =BuOr -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----