- openSUSE Features

[Fate 303517] Configure a cronjob for refreshing repositories
by fate_noreply＠suse.de 25 Jun '08

25 Jun '08

Feature changed by: visnov Feature #303517, revision 4 Title: Configure a cronjob for refreshing repositories openSUSE-11.1: Evaluation Priority Requester: Desirable + Projectmanager: Mandatory Requested by: lslezak(a)novell.com Partner organization: openSUSE.org Description: Autorefresh configured repositories at certain times, this could be on certain days, or time of day, etc. A mockup and more details are in https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=346966 Discussion: #1: flucifredi(a)novell.com (2008-06-13 15:12:52) there are some caveats I can think of requiring silent fail (for instance, a laptop), or requiring randomization (not hitting NCC with a volley all at the same time), but I think the idea is good. -- SUSE Feature Tool: http://partnerfate.suse.de/?rm=feature_show&id=303517

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[Fate 303527] Resolve dependencies after ignoring package download failure
by fate_noreply＠suse.de 24 Jun '08

24 Jun '08

Feature changed by: visnov Feature #303527, revision 9 Title: Resolve dependencies after ignoring package download failure openSUSE-11.1: Evaluation Priority Requester: Desirable Requested by: jkupec(a)novell.com Partner organization: openSUSE.org Description: YaST and Zypper should run the solver before resuming installation if download of a package fails and the user chooses to ignore that package. Currently YaST continues withough solving which makes the ignore button useful only if the user knows how the missing package will affect the system. References: https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=340345#c4 http://lists.opensuse.org/zypp-devel/2008-03/msg00025.html Discussion: #1: flucifredi(a)novell.com (2008-06-13 15:13:41) bit of a corner case. #2: jkupec(a)novell.com (2008-06-16 11:44:24) Well, yes. An idea to cover it easily to some extent: let's advice users to run 'zypper verify' (or the YaST equivalent) in such case, after the installation is finished. This will fix hard dependencies. + #3: visnov(a)novell.com (2008-06-24 15:32:30) (reply to #2) + Yes, I would just suggest to add a message with instructions for the + user. -- SUSE Feature Tool: http://partnerfate.suse.de/?rm=feature_show&id=303527

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[Fate 303678] New yast module - LIRC configuration
by fate_noreply＠suse.de 24 Jun '08

24 Jun '08

Feature changed by: visnov Feature #303678, revision 6 Title: New yast module - LIRC configuration - openSUSE-11.1: Evaluation + openSUSE-11.1: Rejected by visnov(a)novell.com + reject date: 2008-06-24 15:31:30 + reject reason: More urgent stuff to cover. Priority Requester: Desirable + openSUSE-11.2: New + Priority + Requester: Desirable Requested by: lslezak(a)novell.com Partner organization: openSUSE.org Description: Create a new Yast module for configuring IR receivers and remote controls. * irrecord support * ir-kbd-i2c, ir-kbd-gpio support as in tv module already * reading users' config to find out what buttons were defined (only if /home partition left from last installation) * support for lirc's options in /etc/sysconfig See bug https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=381641 -- SUSE Feature Tool: http://partnerfate.suse.de/?rm=feature_show&id=303678

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[Fate 304951] Automated tests for .deb packages
by fate_noreply＠suse.de 20 Jun '08

20 Jun '08

Feature changed by: mjung Feature #304951, revision 2 Title: Automated tests for .deb packages Buildservice: New Priority Requester: Desirable Requested by: mjung(a)novell.com Partner organization: openSUSE.org Description: As we already have rpmlint integrated into the build service, we also should integrate the corresponding debian checks to the build system. Debian offers three tools for automated checks: * lintian (http://lintian.debian.org/) * linda (http://people.debian.org/~stevenk/linda/) * debdiff (from devscripts) (http://packages.debian.org/unstable/devel/devscripts) Further information on automated package tests can be found in Section A.2 of the Debian Developer's Referemce (http://www.debian.org/doc/developers-reference/ap-tools.en.html#s-tools-lint) . Business case (Partner benefit): - openSUSE.org: aaa + openSUSE.org: For the (trust) metrics project we need as many + statistical information we can get. Therefore we should add as many + automated tests as possible to our system. -- SUSE Feature Tool: http://partnerfate.suse.de/?rm=feature_show&id=304951

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[Fate 304951] Automated tests for .deb packages
by fate_noreply＠suse.de 20 Jun '08

20 Jun '08

Feature added by: mjung Feature #304951, revision 1 Title: Automated tests for .deb packages Buildservice: New Priority Requester: Desirable Requested by: mjung(a)novell.com Partner organization: openSUSE.org Description: As we already have rpmlint integrated into the build service, we also should integrate the corresponding debian checks to the build system. Debian offers three tools for automated checks: * lintian (http://lintian.debian.org/) * linda (http://people.debian.org/~stevenk/linda/) * debdiff (from devscripts) (http://packages.debian.org/unstable/devel/devscripts) Further information on automated package tests can be found in Section A.2 of the Debian Developer's Referemce (http://www.debian.org/doc/developers-reference/ap-tools.en.html#s-tools-lint) . Business case (Partner benefit): openSUSE.org: aaa -- SUSE Feature Tool: http://partnerfate.suse.de/?rm=feature_show&id=304951

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[Fate 302047] Integrated package searching for YaST and build service
by fate_noreply＠suse.de 18 Jun '08

18 Jun '08

Feature changed by: adrian Feature #302047, revision 24 Title: Integrated package searching for YaST and build service openSUSE-10.3: Rejected by aj(a)novell.com reject date: 2007-10-05 14:30:28 reject reason: still open partly - postpone the rest. Priority Requester: Important Projectmanager: Important openSUSE-11.0: Rejected by michl(a)novell.com reject date: 2008-06-10 14:01:45 reject reason: not done for 11.0 Priority Requester: Important Projectmanager: Important openSUSE-11.1: Evaluation Priority Requester: Important Requested by: dmacvicar(a)novell.com Partner organization: openSUSE.org Description: You perhaps remember the hacks Benjamin did to support Â "click and install" packages (similar to Click'n run) [1] Benjamin has another article in his blog that is worth to read. He has been providing a wepage to search packages from repositories like packman and build service. Now he presents an architecture to desentralize the system, using web services an indexers, and he shows working prototypes of YaST modules for searching, and others like web and irc-bot clients http://blogs.warwick.ac.uk/bweber/entry/package_search_developments/ I hope we can provide a strategy and roadmap to integrate these cool ideas and _code_. Â [1]: http://blogs.warwick.ac.uk/bweber/entry/next_generation_package/ Discussion: #1: jw(a)suse.de (2007-05-03 15:29:13) see also 300898 For 10.3 the installer should be able to make use of an external list of repositories. I suggest to host such a list at http://packages.opensuse-community.org/ together with the search engine, which is already there. #3: freitag(a)novell.com (2007-07-12 10:46:54) Implementation on openSUSE BS already started, Adrian knows the details. #4: adrian(a)novell.com (2007-07-12 11:30:04) We work on two approaches atm: * YaST will support (thanks to mvidner) additional repository offers during installation. The list gets hosted on our servers, the open question is how to maintain this list. * The build service End-User interface will offer .ymp files based on pattern submissions for easy installation. #5: visnov(a)novell.com (2007-07-30 20:13:09) (reply to #4) Adrian, please, drive this. The feature for YaST should be done now (let me know if anything is missing). #6: michl(a)novell.com (2007-11-22 11:26:30) This sounds like very useful. And it might be possible the community (in this case Benji) helps implementing this. #7: aj(a)novell.com (2008-06-06 10:56:28) Apparently not done - please reject and postpone for 11.1. #8: michl(a)novell.com (2008-06-10 14:02:08) PM-Priority for product openSUSE-11.0 downgraded from mandatory to important: not done for 11.0 - PM accepts reality ;-) + #9: adrian(a)novell.com (2008-06-18 17:08:16) + This is something what we should bind to the new upcomming software + portal. The software portal will be the End-User interface for searcing + and installing software and replace http://software.opensuse.org/search + . However it is still in development and not yet set up. Therefore I am + unsure if this can happen in time for 11.1. + On the other side, the 1-click-installation and integration into the + web interface is done since quite some time. The user can use the cool + technologies from Benjamin since 10.3. -- SUSE Feature Tool: http://partnerfate.suse.de/?rm=feature_show&id=302047

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[Fate 303493] zypper: add separate messages for Required and Recomended packages
by fate_noreply＠suse.de 16 Jun '08

16 Jun '08

Feature changed by: jsrain Feature #303493, revision 6 Title: zypper: add separate messages for Required and Recomended packages openSUSE-11.0: Rejected by visnov(a)novell.com reject date: 2008-03-27 13:50:16 reject reason: Not enough time to look into this. Priority Requester: Important - openSUSE-11.1: Evaluation + openSUSE-11.1: Candidate Priority Requester: Important Projectmanager: Important - SLES-11: Evaluation + SLES-11: Candidate Priority Requester: Important Projectmanager: Important Requested by: crrodriguez(a)novell.com Partner organization: openSUSE.org Description: currenly when you install a package with zypper, you just get the packages that are going to be installed, regardless if the are required or Reccommended,.. will be nice if the messages can be arranged to be more explict about what the package manager is doing. "The following NEW [required|reccomended] package is going to be installed: foo" also an informative message about Suggested packages should be shown "The following package(s) is(are) suggested but are not going to be installed foo bar " unless user pass --install-suggested or use a boolean configuration directive on zypp.conf or something, suggested packages should not be installed by default ..currently it seems to be completely ignored and does nothing. -- SUSE Feature Tool: http://partnerfate.suse.de/?rm=feature_show&id=303493

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[Fate 303527] Resolve dependencies after ignoring package download failure
by fate_noreply＠suse.de 16 Jun '08

16 Jun '08

Feature changed by: jkupec Feature #303527, revision 8 Title: Resolve dependencies after ignoring package download failure openSUSE-11.1: Evaluation Priority Requester: Desirable Requested by: jkupec(a)novell.com Partner organization: openSUSE.org Description: YaST and Zypper should run the solver before resuming installation if download of a package fails and the user chooses to ignore that package. Currently YaST continues withough solving which makes the ignore button useful only if the user knows how the missing package will affect the system. References: https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=340345#c4 http://lists.opensuse.org/zypp-devel/2008-03/msg00025.html Discussion: #1: flucifredi(a)novell.com (2008-06-13 15:13:41) bit of a corner case. + #2: jkupec(a)novell.com (2008-06-16 11:44:24) + Well, yes. An idea to cover it easily to some extent: let's advice + users to run 'zypper verify' (or the YaST equivalent) in such case, + after the installation is finished. This will fix hard dependencies. -- SUSE Feature Tool: http://partnerfate.suse.de/?rm=feature_show&id=303527

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[Fate 302354] Split metadata by architecture / modules
by fate_noreply＠suse.de 14 Jun '08

14 Jun '08

Feature changed by: flucifredi Feature #302354, revision 9 Title: Split metadata by architecture / modules openSUSE-11.0: Rejected by visnov(a)novell.com reject date: 2008-03-28 16:28:18 reject reason: Out of resources. The speed of parsing is greatly improved, downloading is still an issue in 11.0. Priority Requester: Important openSUSE-11.1: Evaluation Priority Requester: Important Requested by: visnov(a)novell.com Partner organization: openSUSE.org Description: All packages are in a single file no matter if they are from different architectures, therefore ZYpp has to download everything Any kind of metadata should be separated by architecture. ZYpp does it for patterns in 10.3, but it is still missing for packages The metadata should be ideally separated by subdirectories and modules. See references on how debian does it References: https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=208452 Discussion: #1: dmacvicar(a)novell.com (2007-11-09 16:52:55) This is not true, YaST filter patterns in 10.3. Will edit the feature to represent the real problems + #2: flucifredi(a)novell.com (2008-06-13 20:22:10) + Duncan, do we still need this / have an advantage from it ? if so, lets + make it Mandatory. -- SUSE Feature Tool: http://partnerfate.suse.de/?rm=feature_show&id=302354

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[Fate 304395] Disabling (or handling) screensaver during installation
by fate_noreply＠suse.de 13 Jun '08

13 Jun '08

Feature changed by: flucifredi Feature #304395, revision 9 Title: Disabling (or handling) screensaver during installation openSUSE-11.1: Evaluation Priority Requester: Desirable Requested by: locilka(a)novell.com Partner organization: openSUSE.org Description: We currently have screen-saver active during installation/upgrade. This is a bit problematic when some exception occurs and opens a pop-up window requesting some user-decision (Abort/Retry/Ignore/...). On slower networks, installation can take tens of minutes, even a few hours. It would be nice to disable the screen-saver (easy) or at least handle all the exceptions by disabling the screen-saver. References: Bug 393890 - How to disable screen blank during installation https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=393890 Black monitor (thread): "The screen suudenly went black" http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-factory/2008-05/msg00675.html Use Case: Installation on slower computer and/or via slower network Discussion: #1: aschnell(a)novell.com (2008-05-27 15:10:07) On slow computers people might actually want the screensaver. Suppose you start the installation and go home or sleeping: I would expect that the monitor powers off after some time. We could add a call "xset dpms force on" to popups. But I doubt that this is worth the effort. #2: locilka(a)novell.com (2008-05-27 15:43:16) (reply to #1) Bug 393890 says exactly: During installation the screen will blank when for some period no keyboard and mouse activity is recognized. The drawback is, that you will not notice error messages that pop up. So one has to move the mouse every 5 minutes or so and is bound to the installation. It would be cool, if we could either do not blank the screen at all, or "deblank" it, when a error message pops up. ... and Stefan Hundhammer adds: The screen saver should be off during installation. Why would there be any exception to this rule? (It's not even that screen savers serve their real purpose these days - it was an issue with old (very old) CRT monitors that could "burn in" images that would be displayed for a long, long time - and then, we are talking about months, not about hours). #3: sh(a)novell.com (2008-05-27 16:10:19) (reply to #1) aschnell wrote: On slow computers people might actually want the screensaver. Suppose you start the installation and go home or sleeping: I would expect that the monitor powers off after some time. When I go home during such a lengthy operation, what's wrong with simply turning the monitor off? This is the most natural and the simplest thing to do. #4: sh(a)novell.com (2008-05-27 16:18:21) See also Bug #393890 (https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=393890) Changing screen saver settings in a widget toolkit (!) such as the YaST2 Qt UI would affect ALL applications written with that toolkit. Right now, that's all YaST2 modules, but since this UI is now available as a general toolkit, you'll never know what other applications this might affect in the future. An X11 application is not to change the user's screen saver settings (unless it is a dedicated application to configure screen saver settings, of course), much less silently in the background. We'd get a lot of surprised and very angry users, and they would have every right to be angry with us. You wouldn't even be able to find out why your screen saver doesn't work any more. #5: locilka(a)novell.com (2008-05-27 16:27:02) (reply to #4) The feature request is about installation, not about running system. But it's a good point that we should not change that in general... (the whole toolkit). Thanks. + #6: flucifredi(a)novell.com (2008-06-13 17:42:27) + ...and we should look at powersave behavior too during these + operations. -- SUSE Feature Tool: http://partnerfate.suse.de/?rm=feature_show&id=304395

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