September 2008 - openSUSE Features - openSUSE Mailing Lists

[openFate 302047] Integrated package searching for YaST and build service
by fate_noreply＠suse.de 04 Sep '08

04 Sep '08

Feature changed by: Adrian Schröter <adrian(a)novell.com> Feature #302047, revision 30 Title: Integrated package searching for YaST and build service openSUSE-10.3: Rejected by Andreas Jaeger <aj(a)novell.com> reject date: 2007-10-05 14:30:28 reject reason: still open partly - postpone the rest. Priority Requester: Important Projectmanager: Important openSUSE-11.0: Rejected by Michael Loeffler <michl(a)novell.com> reject date: 2008-06-10 14:01:45 reject reason: not done for 11.0 Priority Requester: Important Projectmanager: Important - openSUSE-11.1: Evaluation + openSUSE-11.1: Rejected by Adrian Schröter <adrian(a)novell.com> + reject date: 2008-09-04 18:17:10 + reject reason: No time for it, but we have the one-click installation + supported from web interface. Priority Requester: Important + Projectmanager: Desirable Requested by: Duncan Mac-Vicar <dmacvicar(a)novell.com> Partner organization: openSUSE.org Description: You perhaps remember the hacks Benjamin did to support "click and install" packages (similar to Click'n run) [1] Benjamin has another article in his blog that is worth to read. He has been providing a wepage to search packages from repositories like packman and build service. Now he presents an architecture to desentralize the system, using web services an indexers, and he shows working prototypes of YaST modules for searching, and others like web and irc-bot clients http://blogs.warwick.ac.uk/bweber/entry/package_search_developments/ I hope we can provide a strategy and roadmap to integrate these cool ideas and _code_. [1]: http://blogs.warwick.ac.uk/bweber/entry/next_generation_package/ Discussion: #1: Juergen Weigert <jw(a)novell.com> (2007-05-03 15:29:13) see also 300898 For 10.3 the installer should be able to make use of an external list of repositories. I suggest to host such a list at http://packages.opensuse-community.org/ together with the search engine, which is already there. #3: Klaas Freitag <freitag(a)novell.com> (2007-07-12 10:46:54) Implementation on openSUSE BS already started, Adrian knows the details. #4: Adrian Schröter <adrian(a)novell.com> (2007-07-12 11:30:04) We work on two approaches atm: * YaST will support (thanks to mvidner) additional repository offers during installation. The list gets hosted on our servers, the open question is how to maintain this list. * The build service End-User interface will offer .ymp files based on pattern submissions for easy installation. #5: Stanislav Visnovsky <visnov(a)novell.com> (2007-07-30 20:13:09) (reply to #4) Adrian, please, drive this. The feature for YaST should be done now (let me know if anything is missing). #6: Michael Loeffler <michl(a)novell.com> (2007-11-22 11:26:30) This sounds like very useful. And it might be possible the community (in this case Benji) helps implementing this. #7: Andreas Jaeger <aj(a)novell.com> (2008-06-06 10:56:28) Apparently not done - please reject and postpone for 11.1. #8: Michael Loeffler <michl(a)novell.com> (2008-06-10 14:02:08) PM-Priority for product openSUSE-11.0 downgraded from mandatory to important: not done for 11.0 - PM accepts reality ;-) #9: Adrian Schröter <adrian(a)novell.com> (2008-06-18 17:08:16) This is something what we should bind to the new upcomming software portal. The software portal will be the End-User interface for searcing and installing software and replace http://software.opensuse.org/search . However it is still in development and not yet set up. Therefore I am unsure if this can happen in time for 11.1. On the other side, the 1-click-installation and integration into the web interface is done since quite some time. The user can use the cool technologies from Benjamin since 10.3. -- openSUSE Feature: https://features.opensuse.org/?rm=feature_show&id=302047

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[openFate 303311] Include Pidgin and the Conferencing Plugin for Pidgin
by fate_noreply＠suse.de 04 Sep '08

04 Sep '08

Feature changed by: Gary Ekker <gekker(a)novell.com> Feature #303311, revision 10 Title: Include Pidgin and the Conferencing Plugin for Pidgin SLED-10-SP2: Done Priority Requester: Important Projectmanager: Important SLED-11: Candidate Priority Requester: Important Projectmanager: Important Requested by: Gary Ekker <gekker(a)novell.com> + Partner organization: openSUSE.org Description: The Teaming + Conferencing product team from the workgroup BU would like us to include pidgin and the conferencing plugin for pidgin in SLED10-SP2. Discussion: #1: Gary Ekker <gekker(a)novell.com> (2008-02-15 13:37:24) Pidgin was added. We were unable to add the zon-plugin and libicecore as there are still some packaging issues to be worked out for libicecore. libicecore is also not yet ready for x86_64. -- openSUSE Feature: https://features.opensuse.org/?rm=feature_show&id=303311

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[openFate 302220] Automatic Language Subpackage Generation and Collection
by fate_noreply＠suse.de 04 Sep '08

04 Sep '08

Feature changed by: Gary Ekker <gekker(a)novell.com> Feature #302220, revision 14 Title: Automatic Language Subpackage Generation and Collection openSUSE-10.3: Done Priority Requester: Mandatory Projectmanager: Mandatory SLED-11: Candidate Priority Requester: Mandatory Projectmanager: Mandatory Requested by: Andreas Jaeger <aj(a)novell.com> + Partner organization: openSUSE.org Description: To decrease size of installed packages, we want to create language subpackages similar to yast2-trans-$lang and kde-i18n-$lang for other areas. This feature is needed for one CD installations and helps also with thin-client. The idea is to add to spec file of packages a new rpm macro so that subpackages are created and then related subpackages are repacked for each language in our build system. This way we would get e.g. basesystem-$lang and gnome-$lang packages and those can then be installed. - external ID: openSUSE.org Discussion: #1: Stephan Kulow <coolo(a)novell.com> (2007-05-14 13:30:09) Technically it's not a problem. The tools are there, but we need to change ~500 packages to split translations out. Suggestions? Letting them fail or submit them in masses? #2: Andreas Jaeger <aj(a)novell.com> (2007-06-15 16:34:23) (reply to #1) Please discuss on dist mailing list. #3: Stephan Kulow <coolo(a)novell.com> (2007-07-30 09:48:08) we've done it for KDE and saved about 8MB for the english only CD. But the potential for GNOME / Base is still big. #4: Jared Allen <jpallen(a)novell.com> (2007-08-05 21:41:40) Micheal can you take a look at what Stephan did for KDE and see what can be done for GNOME. #5: Stephan Kulow <coolo(a)novell.com> (2007-10-01 12:00:15) done for 10.3, to be reevaluated if enterprise compatible for 11.0 - Thorsten had his doubts. -- openSUSE Feature: https://features.opensuse.org/?rm=feature_show&id=302220

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[openFate 301919] Ship nspluginwrapper to better support 32bit Firefox plugins on 64bit systems
by fate_noreply＠suse.de 04 Sep '08

04 Sep '08

Feature changed by: Gary Ekker <gekker(a)novell.com> Feature #301919, revision 21 Title: Ship nspluginwrapper to better support 32bit Firefox plugins on 64bit systems openSUSE-10.3: Done Priority Requester: Mandatory Projectmanager: Mandatory SLED-11: Evaluation Priority Requester: Mandatory Projectmanager: Important Archs: i386, x86-64 SLES-11: Evaluation Priority Requester: Mandatory Projectmanager: Important Requested by: Klaus Kämpf <kkaempf(a)novell.com> + Partner organization: openSUSE.org Description: As of openSUSE 10.2, components of the Mozilla browser suite are building on 64bit. However, plugin compatibility is suffering (e.g. flash-player not working). The nspluginwrapper (available at freshmeat (http://freshmeat.net/projects/nspluginwrapper) fixes these issues nicely References: https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=229257 - external ID: openSUSE.org Discussion: #1: Andreas Jaeger <aj(a)novell.com> (2007-07-27 10:04:18) We're shipping nspluginwrapper now. Unfortunately it does not handle Java yet. #2: Gary Ekker <gekker(a)novell.com> (2008-05-28 20:34:33) Michael, what would it take to finish this off for 11.1 and SLED11? #3: Stefan Behlert <behlert(a)novell.com> (2008-07-01 23:30:58) (reply to #2) Michael? -- openSUSE Feature: https://features.opensuse.org/?rm=feature_show&id=301919

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[openFate 301791] "Report a bug" a-la-Safari for Mozilla Firefox
by fate_noreply＠suse.de 04 Sep '08

04 Sep '08

Feature changed by: Gary Ekker <gekker(a)novell.com> Feature #301791, revision 23 Title: "Report a bug" a-la-Safari for Mozilla Firefox openSUSE-11.0: Evaluation Priority Requester: Mandatory Projectmanager: Desirable Archs: i386, x86-64 openSUSE-11.1: Evaluation Priority Requester: Mandatory Projectmanager: Important SLED-11: Evaluation Priority Requester: Mandatory Projectmanager: Important Archs: i386, x86-64 Requested by: Guy Lunardi <glunardi(a)novell.com> + Partner organization: openSUSE.org Description: Apple's Safari web browser introduced a really easy for end-users to report public URLs which didn't render properly in Safari. It would be very nice if we could offer something similar for our Firefox. what you should be able to send: - Once Address URL - Description - Problem: other problem, missing content, imcorrect behavior, incorrect aspect, empty page, unable to load the page or unable to connect. - Send screenshot - Send source code - external ID: openSUSE.org Discussion: #1: JP Rosevear <jpr(a)novell.com> (2008-02-28 23:27:20) How is this fundamentally different from Help->Report Broken Website in 2.0.12> I guess code is not sent nor is the screenshot, but this is all the upstream developers are requesting. Or are you intending submission to bugzilla.novell.com? #2: Guy Lunardi <glunardi(a)novell.com> (2008-03-05 18:26:47) (reply to #1) JP, thanks for pointing this out. The solution is very close right now. What it doesn't support is the sharing information for pages that are 'Intranet-based' and not 'Internet-based'. One of our customer may want to report a problem with Firefox with an homegrown application which the developers looking at the results of this submission can't access. Embedding the results (as MTHML or html source) would be the one missing feature. The other thing is that this content probably goes upstream. Should it come to Novell? #3: Gary Ekker <gekker(a)novell.com> (2008-05-09 10:23:42) Michael, does this like something you could do? Or do we need to find another developer? #4: Michael Wolf <maw(a)novell.com> (2008-05-30 18:27:09) (reply to #3) Not sure yet, but I'll look into it. -- openSUSE Feature: https://features.opensuse.org/?rm=feature_show&id=301791

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[openFate 303520] Default NTP Setup
by fate_noreply＠suse.de 02 Sep '08

02 Sep '08

Feature changed by: Jiří Suchomel <jsuchome(a)novell.com> Feature #303520, revision 20 Title: Default NTP Setup - openSUSE-11.1: Candidate + openSUSE-11.1: Done Priority Requester: Mandatory Projectmanager: Mandatory - SLED-11: Candidate + SLED-11: Done Priority Requester: Mandatory Projectmanager: Mandatory - SLES-11: Candidate + SLES-11: Done Priority Requester: Mandatory Projectmanager: Mandatory Requested by: Federico Lucifredi <flucifredi(a)novell.com> Partner organization: openSUSE.org Description: A Yast pane should prompt for NTP set up, which should be configured by default, but of course can also be disabled there. Documentation Impact: Installation guide needs to be updated. Discussion: #1: Stanislav Visnovsky <visnov(a)novell.com> (2008-06-17 12:56:47) Federico, NTP setup is already possible. Do you want it in a more prominent place? Also I see a missing way for the product to pre-define the value, correct? #2: Federico Lucifredi <flucifredi(a)novell.com> (2008-06-23 21:03:12) (reply to #1) right. I want to see it pre-enabled by default againt a dedicated suse. pool.ntp.org / time.novell.com server (separate feature for that). We are lagging a bit behind Win and Mac where the vendos provide their own time source, and we need to catch up there. #3: Jiri Srain <jsrain(a)novell.com> (2008-07-07 12:18:32) We will need not only to enable NTP during installation, but display this information in the installation proposal (and possibly time zone dialog) as well. #6: Jiří Suchomel <jsuchome(a)novell.com> (2008-08-12 13:27:44) (reply to #3) OK, this (http://w3.suse.de/~jsuchome/screenshots/yast2-timezone-ntp-status.png) is proposal how to show the info in current time zone dialog. It is probably bad that status is part of the frame label, but I didn't want to take more space from the whole dialog by adding new line... #4: Stephan Kulow <coolo(a)novell.com> (2008-07-31 16:15:46) for openSUSE it's 0.opensuse.pool.ntp.org 1.opensuse.pool.ntp.org 2. opensuse.pool.ntp.org 3.opensuse.pool.ntp.org, for SLE there is no NTP server. time.novell.com can not be used, IS&T does not provide that level of service. + #7: Jiří Suchomel <jsuchome(a)novell.com> (2008-09-02 16:05:00) + Alpha2 solution is working, to solve remaining issues there is a bug + 422128. -- openSUSE Feature: https://features.opensuse.org/?rm=feature_show&id=303520

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