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Re: [opensuse-contrib] Re: [obs submit-request 11649] multimedia:audio/qtractor: created by mseben
by Michal Seben 11 Jun '09

11 Jun '09

Takashi Iwai wrote: > At Thu, 11 Jun 2009 15:30:08 +0200, > Michal Seben wrote: > >> Rui Nuno Capela wrote: >> >>> Michal Seben wrote: >>> >>> >>>> Pavol Rusnak wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>>>>>> Well, why not simply put this to FACTORY? >>>>>>>> I've been just too lazy to submit it (and test it). If any of you can >>>>>>>> take care, it should be fine. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> I test qtractor, and it ... works :), but there is a problem with >>>> coexistence with pulseaudio, because qtractor use jackd >>>> so by default if you start qtractor and pulseaudio application one of >>>> them wouldn't work >>>> however this issue could be resolved with pulseaudio-module-jack, >>>> >>>> so I am not sure if we could push qtractor directly to the factory >>>> any ideas ? >>>> >>>> >>> qtractor is a jack application and it just makes implicit use of the >>> jackd auto-start feature ie. it tries to start jackd if it's not up and >>> running atm. >>> >>> however, afaict, if pulseaudio is taking over the soundcard device, >>> jackd won't have a chance to start and qtractor or anyother jack >>> application for that matter will complain ie. won't work either. >>> >>> all that to say that there's nothing blocking qtractor (or any other >>> jack application) to be included in any distro, opensuse included (which >>> is my distro of choice btw)--until now, and ever since released from its >>> stealth-mode project status, qtractor has been provided by the great >>> packman repository, with just minutes delay after my own public releases >>> which i do also provide my own opensuse rpms (opensuse 11.1 based but >>> fully featured ntl:) >>> >>> cheers >>> >>> >> hello Rui >> >> I create wiki, which could help with pulseaudio issues with qtractor on >> suse see http://en.opensuse.org/Qtractor, I know that current issues >> with jackd are not caused by qtractor >> I only wan't to know if we could move qtractor from project home:rncbc >> to project contrib, see http://en.opensuse.org/Contrib >> I know, it's already in packman, but not every user use it , and I think >> all greats app's should be in factory or contrib and not spread all over >> the different repositories >> If you are unsure, I could move qtractor to contrib and also I coud be >> maintainer of this package in contrib >> > > Well, if you can be the maintainer, why not in FACTORY from the > beginning? > > > thanks, > > Takashi > ok, no problem, I could add qtractor to Factory and I could maintain it, but could be added to Factory package which doesn't work in some cases ? (I mean when you after default installation start app which use pulseaudio + start qtractor one of them didn't work) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-contrib+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-contrib+help(a)opensuse.org

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Re: [opensuse-contrib] Re: [obs submit-request 11649] multimedia:audio/qtractor: created by mseben
by Michal Seben 11 Jun '09

11 Jun '09

Rui Nuno Capela wrote: > Michal Seben wrote: > >> Pavol Rusnak wrote: >> >>>>>> Well, why not simply put this to FACTORY? >>>>>> I've been just too lazy to submit it (and test it). If any of you can >>>>>> take care, it should be fine. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >> I test qtractor, and it ... works :), but there is a problem with >> coexistence with pulseaudio, because qtractor use jackd >> so by default if you start qtractor and pulseaudio application one of >> them wouldn't work >> however this issue could be resolved with pulseaudio-module-jack, >> >> so I am not sure if we could push qtractor directly to the factory >> any ideas ? >> > > qtractor is a jack application and it just makes implicit use of the > jackd auto-start feature ie. it tries to start jackd if it's not up and > running atm. > > however, afaict, if pulseaudio is taking over the soundcard device, > jackd won't have a chance to start and qtractor or anyother jack > application for that matter will complain ie. won't work either. > > all that to say that there's nothing blocking qtractor (or any other > jack application) to be included in any distro, opensuse included (which > is my distro of choice btw)--until now, and ever since released from its > stealth-mode project status, qtractor has been provided by the great > packman repository, with just minutes delay after my own public releases > which i do also provide my own opensuse rpms (opensuse 11.1 based but > fully featured ntl:) > > cheers > hello Rui I create wiki, which could help with pulseaudio issues with qtractor on suse see http://en.opensuse.org/Qtractor, I know that current issues with jackd are not caused by qtractor I only wan't to know if we could move qtractor from project home:rncbc to project contrib, see http://en.opensuse.org/Contrib I know, it's already in packman, but not every user use it , and I think all greats app's should be in factory or contrib and not spread all over the different repositories If you are unsure, I could move qtractor to contrib and also I coud be maintainer of this package in contrib thanks -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-contrib+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-contrib+help(a)opensuse.org

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new version: grsync 0.9.0
by GNOME RSS Reader 11 Jun '09

11 Jun '09

Hi, reading the GNOME gnomefiles.rdf RSS feed, I have found the (apparently) new version 0.9.0 of your package grsync. (Old version last notified/in tree was 0.6.3). (This is just for your information. You decide whether to upgrade a package or not.) Ciao, GNOME RSS Reader (/suse/meissner/projects/caldera-tools/packagehunter/rss/gnomeapps.pl) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-contrib+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-contrib+help(a)opensuse.org

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new version: conky 1.7.1.1
by Package Warrior 10 Jun '09

10 Jun '09

Hi, By reading the Sourceforge release notice, I have found the (apparently) new version 1.7.1.1 of your package conky. (Old version last notified/in tree was 1.7.1). (This is just for your information. You decide whether to upgrade a package or not.) Location: http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=143975&release_id=688… Ciao, Package Warrior (/suse/meissner/projects/caldera-tools/packagehunter/sf/pink.pl) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-contrib+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-contrib+help(a)opensuse.org

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Fwd: [opensuse-factory] The Future of Factory/Contrib
by Michal Vyskocil 10 Jun '09

10 Jun '09

Hi all, Even if there is probably no one who reads opensuse-contrib and not opensuse- factory, I'd like to inform you about Henne's proposal about opening of Factory [1]. It will have an impact on Contrib repository, because it does not make a sense to have two identical projects for openSUSE. So it's important to start a discuss about future of Contrib too. So from my POW, we have those possibilities: 1.) use the Contrib as one of devel projects for Factory 2.) drop Contrib and move all packages to appropiate devel project and Factory 3.) redefine a Contrib as a respository with less strict maintenance rules (eg. the "famous" version upgrades), because even if the Factory will be opened for community, every package must be maintained for cca 2 years (that means, three openSUSE releases + Factory). And community is not really interested on it. But this is just my POW, so your ideas are very welcome. [1] http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-factory/2009-06/msg00036.html Best regards Michal Vyskocil -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-contrib+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-contrib+help(a)opensuse.org

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new version: bleachbit 0.5.1
by FreshMeat De Digster 10 Jun '09

10 Jun '09

Hi, By de-digesting the FreshMeat [fm] digest, I have found the (apparently) new version 0.5.1 of your package bleachbit. (Old version last notified/in tree was 0.5.0). (This is just for your information. You decide whether to upgrade a package or not.) Extra Information: [004] BLEACHBIT 0.5.1 Project Tags: Filesystems, Utilities, Systems Administration, privacy Description: BleachBit deletes unnecessary files to free valuable disk space and maintain privacy. It rids your system of old junk including cache, Internet history, temporary files, unused locale files, and cookies. Designed for Linux systems, it wipes clean Adobe Reader, Bash, Beagle, Chromium, Epiphany, Firefox, Flash, Internet Explorer, Google Chrome, Java, KDE, OpenOffice.org, Opera, Real Player, Recoll, Safari, Skype, XChat, and more. Changes: This release securely shreds any file to prevent file recovery. It adds a warning when deleting Firefox's Places. It cleans Google Chrome and gFTP on Linux. It cleans Java, Opera, RealPlayer, and X-Chat on Windows. It fixes bugs. It updates translations for Brazilian Portuguese, Czech, Serbian, and German. Release Tags: Stable, Bugfixes, features License: GPLv3 http://freshmeat.net/projects/bleachbit ======================================================================== Ciao, FreshMeat De Digster (/suse/meissner/projects/caldera-tools/packagehunter/fm/filter_freshmeat.pl) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-contrib+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-contrib+help(a)opensuse.org

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new version: bleachbit 0.5.1
by GNOME RSS Reader 09 Jun '09

09 Jun '09

Hi, reading the GNOME gnomefiles.rdf RSS feed, I have found the (apparently) new version 0.5.1 of your package bleachbit. (Old version last notified/in tree was 0.4.2). (This is just for your information. You decide whether to upgrade a package or not.) Ciao, GNOME RSS Reader (/suse/meissner/projects/caldera-tools/packagehunter/rss/gnomeapps.pl) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-contrib+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-contrib+help(a)opensuse.org

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Re: [obs submit-request 11649] multimedia:audio/qtractor: created by mseben
by Pavol Rusnak 09 Jun '09

09 Jun '09

Takashi Iwai wrote: > At Tue, 09 Jun 2009 11:28:01 +0200, > Pavol Rusnak wrote: >> Takashi Iwai wrote: >>> At Tue, 09 Jun 2009 11:18:20 +0200, >>> Pavol Rusnak wrote: >>>> Michal Seben wrote: >>>>> home:mseben:Factory/qtractor -> multimedia:audio/qtractor >>>>> >>>>> https://build.opensuse.org/package/show?package=qtractor&project=home:msebe… >>>>> https://build.opensuse.org/package/show?package=qtractor&project=multimedia… >>>>> >>>>> Description: qtractor updated to 0.4.2, could I push this app to contrib? >>>> I just spotted that qtractor is maintainer by upstream in home:rncbc >>>> project (along with other his package like qjackctl, qsampler and >>>> qsynth). Maybe we could ask him if he's not interested in maintaining >>>> these packages in Contrib (well, not qjackctl as it is in Factory too). >>> Well, why not simply put this to FACTORY? >>> I've been just too lazy to submit it (and test it). If any of you can >>> take care, it should be fine. >>> >>> Keeping this in Contrib doesn't make much sense, especially when >>> considering the future change of FACTORY. >> I guess it is still not clear whether we'll allow version updates for >> leaf packages in Contrib. If we will, it would make sense to put >> packages like qtractor there, not into Factory. > > What is special with qtractor? Absolutely nothing. I just wanted to point out that we shouldn't give Contrib up for lost until it is made clear that the Contrib and Factory rules will be the same. If they are we could move packages from Contrib to Factory ASAP to avoid branching of Contrib-11.2. (But I'm afraid autobuild is not ready for this step yet and I'm not creating 200+ PDB entries). > > > Takashi -- Best Regards / S pozdravom, Pavol RUSNAK SUSE LINUX, s.r.o Package Maintainer Lihovarska 1060/12 PGP 0xA6917144 19000 Praha 9, CR prusnak[at]suse.cz http://www.suse.cz -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-contrib+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-contrib+help(a)opensuse.org

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Re: [obs submit-request 11649] multimedia:audio/qtractor: created by mseben
by Pavol Rusnak 09 Jun '09

09 Jun '09

Takashi Iwai wrote: > At Tue, 09 Jun 2009 11:18:20 +0200, > Pavol Rusnak wrote: >> Michal Seben wrote: >>> home:mseben:Factory/qtractor -> multimedia:audio/qtractor >>> >>> https://build.opensuse.org/package/show?package=qtractor&project=home:msebe… >>> https://build.opensuse.org/package/show?package=qtractor&project=multimedia… >>> >>> Description: qtractor updated to 0.4.2, could I push this app to contrib? >> I just spotted that qtractor is maintainer by upstream in home:rncbc >> project (along with other his package like qjackctl, qsampler and >> qsynth). Maybe we could ask him if he's not interested in maintaining >> these packages in Contrib (well, not qjackctl as it is in Factory too). > > Well, why not simply put this to FACTORY? > I've been just too lazy to submit it (and test it). If any of you can > take care, it should be fine. > > Keeping this in Contrib doesn't make much sense, especially when > considering the future change of FACTORY. I guess it is still not clear whether we'll allow version updates for leaf packages in Contrib. If we will, it would make sense to put packages like qtractor there, not into Factory. -- Best Regards / S pozdravom, Pavol RUSNAK SUSE LINUX, s.r.o Package Maintainer Lihovarska 1060/12 PGP 0xA6917144 19000 Praha 9, CR prusnak[at]suse.cz http://www.suse.cz -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-contrib+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-contrib+help(a)opensuse.org

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Re: [obs submit-request 11649] multimedia:audio/qtractor: created by mseben
by Pavol Rusnak 09 Jun '09

09 Jun '09

Michal Seben wrote: > > home:mseben:Factory/qtractor -> multimedia:audio/qtractor > > https://build.opensuse.org/package/show?package=qtractor&project=home:msebe… > https://build.opensuse.org/package/show?package=qtractor&project=multimedia… > > Description: qtractor updated to 0.4.2, could I push this app to contrib? I just spotted that qtractor is maintainer by upstream in home:rncbc project (along with other his package like qjackctl, qsampler and qsynth). Maybe we could ask him if he's not interested in maintaining these packages in Contrib (well, not qjackctl as it is in Factory too). PS: I haven't looked at the packages so I'm not sure about the state of the spec files. -- Best Regards / S pozdravom, Pavol RUSNAK SUSE LINUX, s.r.o Package Maintainer Lihovarska 1060/12 PGP 0xA6917144 19000 Praha 9, CR prusnak[at]suse.cz http://www.suse.cz -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-contrib+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-contrib+help(a)opensuse.org

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