hi !
there is a discussion about adding kde3 packages to contrib on
kde-opensuse mailinglist
any suggestions ?
Lubos Lunak wrote:
> On Wednesday 21 of January 2009, Michal Seben wrote:
>
>> Stephan Binner wrote:
>>
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> below a list of packages currently assigned to kde-maintainers(a)suse.de
>>> which - if I made no mistake - are not required by any product pattern.
>>> They IMHO do not have to be part of the core distro and could be
>>> maintained by someone in Contrib repository[1], KDE:Community
>>> repositories or dropped without pain.
>>>
>>>
> [excessive quoting removed]
>
>> I don't think that contrib is a right place for kde3 apps, it is a place
>> for packages with no extra dependencies, I am little bit scare what
>> happens when
>> kde3 lib will be dropped ?
>>
>
> No, we currently have no plans to drop basic runtime environment for KDE3
> applications (that is, kdelibs3 + kdebase3-runtime). What will no longer be
> officially provided by openSUSE11.2 is the KDE3 desktop, but KDE3 runtime
> should stay as long as (reasonably) needed.
>
>
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Hi
Before I start to submit packages to contrib, I like to have answers
for at least the following questions. (Even if Henne sais that we
should start with contributing first and afterwards request answers to
our questions ;-)
Now to my questions - sorry if they're already answered, but I can't
find the comlete answers in the wiki...
1) How frozen is frozen?
As far as I understand, contrib will contain
Contrib:Factory => current development
Contrib:<release> => frozen repository
Each maintainer should maintain his package for Contrib:Factory and
Contrib:<release>, right?
As contrib:<release> is frozen (cite: "After the branch no version
updates are allowed anymore") - is there really no chance to upgrade a
package?
I think openSUSE has a very strong policy about frozen packages - but
even there some packages have exceptions. If you try to follow the
same or a stronger policy in contrib, you lost at least me as
packager, as I don't want to maintain leave packages for over 2 years
by backporting patches. (I think that's one of the main reasons for
the shriveling official repo, btw.)
2) What about orphaned/unfixed packages?
If a package fails in contrib:factory or needs a security fix in the
contrib:<release> repos - what's the expected response time? Who
escalates/detects, if a packager is not responding?
(BTW: Just a side note from my experience with the Education
repository: freezing in the same time as the official repository
doesn't work - at least for Education.)
3) Is there a jury and/or escalation method defined to settle
potential disputes between contrib-reviewers and contrib-maintainers
(updates/reachability) ?
4) How to test updates?
If a packager has to fix a package for a frozen distribution and wants
some people to test it - how should this work?
* Would there be a Contrib:<release>:testing repository for this?
* Should testers add the packagers home repository (containing perhaps
other packages) and install from there?
5) How will users be informed about updated packages for their release?
Currently, if I add a repository like contrib:<release> as user via
zypper, it will be added with "refresh disabled". So zypper will never
look for updated packages - and therefore I'll never get informed
about an updated package.
Even if I refresh the repository, I have to download the new package
and hope to find information about the reason for the update in the
rpm changelog, right? -> Suggestion: Is it perhaps possible to get a
"real update repository" containing patchinfos (the files which can be
shown in the updater-applet on my desktop) for released contrib
repositories (like Education does ;-)?
With kind regards,
Lars
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server:ftp/bftpd -> openSUSE:Factory:Contrib/bftpd
https://build.opensuse.org/package/show?package=bftpd&project=server:ftphttps://build.opensuse.org/package/show?package=bftpd&project=openSUSE:Fact…
Description: after accepting,i will create link to bftpd from contrib to server:ftp
Source revision md5: b37bf561ecfc8338a9a56f87f15b3d32
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State of submit-request #5817 was changed by puzel:
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Comment:
1) ivalid locale:can be fixed by accepting SR#5837. 2) built without RPM_OPT_FLAGS - perhaps something wrong in src/Makefile.am ?
Source
project: GNOME:Community
package: osmo
revision: 722a32c0e526cb7cef67246c0b94e007
Target:
project: openSUSE:Factory:Contrib
package: osmo
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State of submit-request #5818 was changed by puzel:
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Comment:
The version is outdated (1.5.1 available). Also please take a look at the rpmlint warning and consider whether it is worth fixing with fdupes
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project: GNOME:Community
package: python-enchant
revision: fbfc74c9be57df21abbd8afaafad1e90
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project: openSUSE:Factory:Contrib
package: python-enchant
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home:radomir_cernoch/spin -> openSUSE:Factory:Contrib/spin
https://build.opensuse.org/package/show?package=spin&project=home:radomir_c…https://build.opensuse.org/package/show?package=spin&project=openSUSE:Facto…
Description: Asking to add Spin (linear temporal logic model checker).
Source revision md5: b867ebaa1bbc6548bfca0b47adb2875a
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Hi,
reading the KDE new releases RSS feed, I have found the (apparently)
new version 2.0.9.3 of your package subdownloader. (Old version last
notified/in tree was ).
(This is just for your information. You decide whether to upgrade a package or
not.)
Ciao, KDE RSS Reader
(/suse/meissner/projects/caldera-tools/packagehunter/rss/kdeapps.pl)
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home:radomir_cernoch/sl -> openSUSE:Factory:Contrib/sl
https://build.opensuse.org/package/show?package=sl&project=home:radomir_cer…https://build.opensuse.org/package/show?package=sl&project=openSUSE:Factory…
Description: Asking to include 'sl' into Contrib.
Source revision md5: bf2d763d62d775e240df7b8e5a313651
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State of submit-request #5827 was changed by puzel:
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Comment:
Should be buildarch. You should also remove that windows note from description.
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project: home:mvyskocil:Contrib
package: playitslowly
revision: 1bc39512eb86131901991ee160ee08e2
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Description: please add a 'playitslowly' to Contrib
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