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David Haller dnh@opensuse.org changed:

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--- Comment #1 from David Haller dnh@opensuse.org --- Actually, it is not a regression, it's a informed decision taken by me NOT to include the fish VFS. Why? Because fish may delete your _SOURCE_ files on moves. I've yet to come up with a convincing testcase for upstream, but, FWIW, fish is broken by design anyway. I outline the "move" problem in http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse/2014-12/msg01128.html Any real fix will probably require a major rewrite of the code, which I am neither able nor willing to even make a halfhearted stab at.

Now, SCP/SFTP is a different matter, and with password AUTH it works ootb.

There's a report on the opensuse-ML that it does work with keys, but I have not been able to reproduce that as yet, most likely entirely my fault. Have a look at this thread paying attention to Mark Goldstein's mails, here they are: http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse/2014-12/msg00666.html http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse/2014-12/msg00681.html

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--- Comment #3 from Rihards Olups richlv@nakts.net --- as for mc + sftp + keys, there's an open upstream feature request to support it [properly] : https://www.midnight-commander.org/ticket/3238

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--- Comment #5 from David Haller dnh@opensuse.org --- (In reply to Rihards Olups from comment #2)

ah, interesting - that's exactly what i reported at bug #856501 :)

See comments #4 and #5 there. Regarding the upstream ticket https://www.midnight-commander.org/ticket/3128 : Could you provide a testcase? Maybe along the lines of http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse/2014-12/msg01128.html ... I'm not that well ATM, got lots to do and my ssh-config is pretty hosed and not a good testcase anyway.

(In reply to Rihards Olups from comment #3)

as for mc + sftp + keys, there's an open upstream feature request to support it [properly] : https://www.midnight-commander.org/ticket/3238

Yeah, that'd be good and there's already code there for it, it just seems to not work (except in some cases, see the mails I mentioned at the end of #c1). But it's much much saner code than fish anyway.

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IT wrx info@itwrx.org changed:

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--- Comment #7 from IT wrx info@itwrx.org --- Please forgive my ignorance, but is this approach of disabling a feature that has a bug considered serious the distro-wide policy for opensuse or is this just the decision taken by you in this situation?

If the latter, while i can understand the motivation, i would like to request that you reconsider.

As an end user i would much rather the distro not remove features to make decisions for me/protect me from upstream. I would think a message during install and/or documentation of the issue in the wiki would be enough, and still allow people to use the software the way it is written, even if buggy. I've been using mc in Arch Linux for years and either didn't know about this bug or had forgotten about it, b/c i don't use "skip": probably b/c it deleted my files one time, and i said to myself "i'll never use that again, whatever 'skip' is supposed to mean/do". I use "abort" when there is a problem and i generally try to make sure perms are correct, etc before trying transfers.

As buggy as it might be, i would imagine that ssh shell via mc is a important feature for many remote LSAs, and was shocked to find this has been stripped in a distro that advertises itself as a good fit for devs, admins, etc.

thanks.

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--- Comment #9 from IT wrx info@itwrx.org --- (In reply to Radomir Terber from comment #8)

I definitely agree with it. Even if I am not in necessary detail about this bug, all other distros known to me use this feature and it doesn't seems that they have any issue. So it SHOULD stay preserved here (with - for example - security warning during installation), or at least offer alternatives (with / without this feature). It decreases whole distro in my eyes.

@Radomir my mc package in obs has fish re-enbled if you want to use it.

https://build.opensuse.org/package/show/home:ITwrxorg/mc

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--- Comment #11 from IT wrx info@itwrx.org --- (In reply to Radomir Terber from comment #10)

Thank you, great news. I didn't knot it. It really works :)

you're welcome. I'm glad someone can get some use out of it.