[opensuse] 12.2 Shutdown but not power off
Hi Does anyone else have this as an issue? The system gets the "System Halted" message but does not do the next step of turning the machine off. (i pressed ESC after selecting shutdown to watch the text display of the shutdown process) Is there a configuration item for this or does it sound like a bug? regards Ian -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
ianseeks said the following on 12/11/2012 12:17 PM:
Hi
Does anyone else have this as an issue? The system gets the "System Halted" message but does not do the next step of turning the machine off. (i pressed ESC after selecting shutdown to watch the text display of the shutdown process)
Is there a configuration item for this or does it sound like a bug?
When I do a 'new' install (or upgrade, be it from DVD or net) the shut-down works fine. But after a few kernel updates I see this phenomena. * openSuse - YES * mandriva - YES * fedora - YES And I've seen it across a few revisions. "Just one of those things" That's why we have a power switch ... -- The greatest obstacle to discovery is not ignorance - it is the illusion of knowledge -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On Tuesday, December 11, 2012 05:17:24 PM ianseeks wrote:
Hi
Does anyone else have this as an issue? The system gets the "System Halted" message but does not do the next step of turning the machine off. (i pressed ESC after selecting shutdown to watch the text display of the shutdown process)
Is there a configuration item for this or does it sound like a bug?
regards
Ian Yes I have been seeing this since 12.2 came out. Last week after several updates, not sure which rpm, it worked for two shutdowns and then went back to not powering off.
Last message when esc is used is [Code] [ xxxxxxx xxxxxx Powering down} [/Code] The external usb disk intermittantly flashes but everything is hung up. Only way out is the power off button. I tryed both as user and root, same results. I've gone thru all the suggested fixes in mail lists and formans, etc. None fix it. If I boot into my 12.1 disk, powerdown works! 12.2 was a fresh install and has all update thru Monday of this week. Russ -- openSUSE 12.2(Linux 3.4.11-2.16-desktop x86_64)| KDE 4.9.4 "release 1"|Intel core2duo 2.5 MHZ,|8GB DDR3|GeForce 8400GS(NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-304.60) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 2012-12-11 17:17 (GMT) ianseeks composed:
Does anyone else have this as an issue? The system gets the "System Halted" message but does not do the next step of turning the machine off. (i pressed ESC after selecting shutdown to watch the text display of the shutdown process)
Is there a configuration item for this or does it sound like a bug?
It sounds _very_ familiar, but you haven't mentioned what you're trying to log off from, or how. What happens if you try shutdown or reboot logged in as root? Is sysvinit-init installed? Is KDM installed? GDM? Search the list archives from a month or three ago and you'll probably find what's needed. -- "The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On Tuesday, December 11, 2012 04:36:02 PM Felix Miata wrote:
On 2012-12-11 17:17 (GMT) ianseeks composed: <snip>
Is there a configuration item for this or does it sound like a bug?
It sounds _very_ familiar, but you haven't mentioned what you're trying to log off from, or how. What happens if you try shutdown or reboot logged in as root? Is sysvinit-init installed? Is KDM installed? GDM? Search the list archives from a month or three ago and you'll probably find what's needed. </snip> I am trying to log off from KDE4.9.4 release 1. Problem was here on 4.9.3 and earlier KDE Versions. KDM is installed. sysvinit-init is not installed. systemd-sysvinit, sysvint and sysvinit-tools are installed. I assume these were installed by YaST. As I selected systend as the default.
I did look at the archives and none fixed it, but I'll go back and review them again. I have not actually logged in as root from KDM (Inhibited) but have tried su, su- and sudo all with same results. I'' enable KDM log in and see if root makes a difference. Will post results soon. Thanks for your imput. Russ -- openSUSE 12.2(Linux 3.4.11-2.16-desktop x86_64)| KDE 4.9.4 "release 1"|Intel core2duo 2.5 MHZ,|8GB DDR3|GeForce 8400GS(NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-304.60) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On Thursday, December 13, 2012 07:51:15 AM upscope wrote:
On Tuesday, December 11, 2012 04:36:02 PM Felix Miata wrote:
On 2012-12-11 17:17 (GMT) ianseeks composed: <snip>
Is there a configuration item for this or does it sound like a bug?
It sounds _very_ familiar, but you haven't mentioned what you're trying to log off from, or how. What happens if you try shutdown or reboot logged in as root? Is sysvinit-init installed? Is KDM installed? GDM? Search the list archives from a month or three ago and you'll probably find what's needed. </snip> I am trying to log off from KDE4.9.4 release 1. Problem was here on 4.9.3 and earlier KDE Versions. KDM is installed. sysvinit-init is not installed. systemd-sysvinit, sysvint and sysvinit-tools are installed. I assume these were installed by YaST. As I selected systend as the default.
I did look at the archives and none fixed it, but I'll go back and review them again. I have not actually logged in as root from KDM (Inhibited) but have tried su, su- and sudo all with same results. I'' enable KDM log in and see if root makes a difference.
It's not Desktop related. It happens on KDE and GNOME. I noticed it particularly recurrent on oS 12.1 clean install. and oS 12.2 clean install or upgraded. Complete GRUB2 and systemd does not eliminate the condition.(randomly power off freeze) Hard Disk Drives didn't show any failures or bad sectors. Most probably, some scripts related to shutdown process. Out of my knowledge. -- Ricardo Chung | Panama Linux & FOSS Ambassador openSUSE Projects -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
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It's not Desktop related. It happens on KDE and GNOME. I noticed it particularly recurrent on oS 12.1 clean install. and oS 12.2 clean install or upgraded.
I seldom power off my desktop (I hibernate instead), and yesterday I found that it does not power off when commanded from XFCE menu. It is running 12.1 up to date, and uses systemv. - -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 11.4 x86_64 "Celadon" (Minas Tirith)) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.16 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with undefined - http://www.enigmail.net/ iF4EAREIAAYFAlDM9BQACgkQja8UbcUWM1ykXAEAkeGgmg9thWwfOtAV2VOypbvG IvivPM/G/r1wD+g6jMIA/jpVjusqmgVsq5rVf9+elgxy1tiCf/Ht5pVOsehnYWvv =IIbi -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On Saturday, December 15, 2012 11:05:08 PM Carlos E. R. wrote:
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On 2012-12-14 04:06, Ricardo Chung wrote:
It's not Desktop related. It happens on KDE and GNOME. I noticed it
particularly recurrent on oS 12.1 clean install. and oS 12.2 clean
install or upgraded.
I seldom power off my desktop (I hibernate instead), and yesterday I found that it does not power off when commanded from XFCE menu. It is running 12.1 up to date, and uses systemv.
- -- Cheers / Saludos,
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I don't know if recent updates fixed it. I find no proper exponation. This week has been wonderful for: oS 12.1 -x86-GNOME power off with no issues or delays (LVM) GRUB & SystemV oS 12.1 -x86-GNOME power off with no issues or delays (ext4) GRUB & SystemV oS 12.1 -x86-KDE 4.7.2 power off with no issues or delays (LVM & ext4) GRUB & SystemV oS 12.2 -x86_64-KDE 4.8.5 power off with no issues or delays (ext4) GRUB2 oS 12.2 -x86_64-KDE 4.9.4 power off with no issues or delays (ext4) GRUB2 & Systemd oS 12.2 -x86_64-XFCE power off with no issues or delays (BTRFS) GRUB2 & Systemd All of them in Test Lab. Some of them are old hardwares and other among 6 months and 2 years old. Hope all of you are having similar experience. If anything changes I will keep you posted. Regards -- Ricardo Chung | Panama Ambassador openSUSE Projects -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On Tuesday 11 Dec 2012 16:36:02 Felix Miata wrote:
On 2012-12-11 17:17 (GMT) ianseeks composed:
Does anyone else have this as an issue? The system gets the "System Halted" message but does not do the next step of turning the machine off. (i pressed ESC after selecting shutdown to watch the text display of the shutdown process)
Is there a configuration item for this or does it sound like a bug?
It sounds _very_ familiar, but you haven't mentioned what you're trying to log off from, or how. What happens if you try shutdown or reboot logged in as root? Is sysvinit-init installed? Is KDM installed? GDM? Search the list archives from a month or three ago and you'll probably find what's needed.
I've tried all the menu driven shutdown choices. I've even tried "init 0" from a terminal session. It shuts down the OS but does not turn off the machine. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
El 11/12/12 14:17, ianseeks escribió:
Hi
Does anyone else have this as an issue? The system gets the "System Halted" message but does not do the next step of turning the machine off. (i pressed ESC after selecting shutdown to watch the text display of the shutdown process)
Is there a configuration item for this or does it sound like a bug?
regards
Ian
that depends on what command are you issuing..if you issue "shutdown" then it is expected to behave that way.. "poweroff" is the correct call. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Cristian Rodríguez said the following on 12/11/2012 09:33 PM:
El 11/12/12 14:17, ianseeks escribió:
Hi
Does anyone else have this as an issue? The system gets the "System Halted" message but does not do the next step of turning the machine off. (i pressed ESC after selecting shutdown to watch the text display of the shutdown process)
Is there a configuration item for this or does it sound like a bug?
regards
Ian
that depends on what command are you issuing..if you issue "shutdown" then it is expected to behave that way.. "poweroff" is the correct call.
I disagree. The behaviour ha changed. "shutdown -h now" used to end with poweroff. Now it doesn't. The man page makes it clear that the "-h" means HALT. Like I said, it used to work, but after some updates to the kernel it stopped working. If you look at the man page for poweroff you'll see that by default if calls shutdown. In fact there is an embedded error message that recommends, if you are doing this from the command line, that you use shutdown instead. And for shutdown, isn't "-P" (poweroff) the default? Of course with systemd, strange things might happen ... as they are both a symlink to systemctl =) My point is that IT USED TO WORK right after the install/upgrade and that I see this across a number of distributions. -- Misspeled? Imposable. My modem is erorr corecting. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On Tuesday, December 11, 2012 05:17:24 PM ianseeks wrote:
Hi
Does anyone else have this as an issue? The system gets the "System Halted" message but does not do the next step of turning the machine off. (i pressed ESC after selecting shutdown to watch the text display of the shutdown process)
Is there a configuration item for this or does it sound like a bug?
regards
Ian
Have you tried from terminal the following? 1) /sbin/shutdown -h -P now or even better as root 2) su - password: shutdown -h -P now 3) Is it the same experience (hanging on)? 4) Does it happen GUI goes off but still power on? 5) Have you checked BIOS firmware updates available? Hope these check points help you to find the way. Regards, -- Ricardo Chung | Panama Ambassador openSUSE Projects -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Ricardo Chung said the following on 12/11/2012 10:23 PM:
Have you tried from terminal the following?
1) /sbin/shutdown -h -P now
Yes.
3) Is it the same experience (hanging on)?
Yes.
4) Does it happen GUI goes off but still power on?
Yes.
5) Have you checked BIOS firmware updates available?
Yes. And as I said, I see this with mandriva and with fedora as well. -- Expecting life to treat your fairly because you are a good person is like expecting an angry bull not to charge because you are a vegetarian. -- Shari R Barr -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On Wednesday, December 12, 2012 08:27:00 AM Anton Aylward wrote:
Ricardo Chung said the following on 12/11/2012 10:23 PM:
Have you tried from terminal the following?
1) /sbin/shutdown -h -P now
Yes.
3) Is it the same experience (hanging on)?
Yes.
4) Does it happen GUI goes off but still power on?
Yes.
5) Have you checked BIOS firmware updates available?
Yes.
And as I said, I see this with mandriva and with fedora as well.
Definitely, It must be a bug beyond the Linux kernel versions. 1) It happens randomly disregards the graphic card adpaters and drivers your system uses (nVidia, Intel, ATI, mesa, radeon, etc...) 2) It happens randomly disregards updates or not (not related to updates or upgrades) 3) It happens on 32 and 64 bit systems. 4) It doesn't show any error on logs. Regards, -- Ricardo Chung | Panama Ambassador openSUSE Projects -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Ricardo Chung said the following on 12/12/2012 10:41 AM:
4) It doesn't show any error on logs.
That's cos this occurs after the syslog daemon has shut down -/ -- "I've never heard of AOL, what do they play?" -One of the Spice Girls during an online interview -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On Tuesday 11 Dec 2012 22:23:48 Ricardo Chung wrote:
On Tuesday, December 11, 2012 05:17:24 PM ianseeks wrote:
Hi
Does anyone else have this as an issue? The system gets the "System Halted" message but does not do the next step of turning the machine off. (i pressed ESC after selecting shutdown to watch the text display of the shutdown process)
Is there a configuration item for this or does it sound like a bug?
regards
Ian
Have you tried from terminal the following?
1) /sbin/shutdown -h -P now
or even better as root
2) su - password: shutdown -h -P now
3) Is it the same experience (hanging on)? 4) Does it happen GUI goes off but still power on? 5) Have you checked BIOS firmware updates available?
Hope these check points help you to find the way.
Regards,
I've also tried "init 0" from a terminal session -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On Thursday, December 13, 2012 03:56:57 PM ianseeks wrote:
On Tuesday 11 Dec 2012 22:23:48 Ricardo Chung wrote:
On Tuesday, December 11, 2012 05:17:24 PM ianseeks wrote:
Hi
Does anyone else have this as an issue? The system gets the "System Halted" message but does not do the next step of turning the machine off. (i pressed ESC after selecting shutdown to watch the text display of the shutdown process)
Is there a configuration item for this or does it sound like a bug?
regards
Ian
Have you tried from terminal the following?
1) /sbin/shutdown -h -P now
or even better as root
2) su - password: shutdown -h -P now
3) Is it the same experience (hanging on)? 4) Does it happen GUI goes off but still power on? 5) Have you checked BIOS firmware updates available?
Hope these check points help you to find the way.
Regards,
I've also tried "init 0" from a terminal session
I found no difference because it happens randomly. In fact, it did happen recently. Maybe recent updates temporary fixed it. -- Ricardo Chung | Panama Linux & FOSS Ambassador openSUSE Projects -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On Thursday 13 Dec 2012 21:50:33 Ricardo Chung wrote:
On Thursday, December 13, 2012 03:56:57 PM ianseeks wrote:
On Tuesday 11 Dec 2012 22:23:48 Ricardo Chung wrote:
On Tuesday, December 11, 2012 05:17:24 PM ianseeks wrote:
Hi
Does anyone else have this as an issue? The system gets the "System Halted" message but does not do the next step of turning the machine off. (i pressed ESC after selecting shutdown to watch the text display of the shutdown process)
Is there a configuration item for this or does it sound like a bug?
regards
Ian
Have you tried from terminal the following?
1) /sbin/shutdown -h -P now
or even better as root
2) su - password: shutdown -h -P now
3) Is it the same experience (hanging on)? 4) Does it happen GUI goes off but still power on? 5) Have you checked BIOS firmware updates available?
Hope these check points help you to find the way.
Regards,
I've also tried "init 0" from a terminal session
I found no difference because it happens randomly. In fact, it did happen recently. Maybe recent updates temporary fixed it.
I put a comment on a bug that looked similar and got this reply. "This is unrelated, you need to use "halt -p" to shutdown your computer (as explained in the manual). With sysvinit, we had a patch which was injecting "-p" on x86/x86_64 hardware without you noticing." I'll give that a go tonight. not sure where to patch if it works though. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On Thursday 13 Dec 2012 21:50:33 Ricardo Chung wrote:
On Thursday, December 13, 2012 03:56:57 PM ianseeks wrote:
On Tuesday 11 Dec 2012 22:23:48 Ricardo Chung wrote:
On Tuesday, December 11, 2012 05:17:24 PM ianseeks wrote:
Hi
Does anyone else have this as an issue? The system gets the "System Halted" message but does not do the next step of turning the machine off. (i pressed ESC after selecting shutdown to watch the text display of the shutdown process)
Is there a configuration item for this or does it sound like a bug?
regards
Ian
Have you tried from terminal the following?
1) /sbin/shutdown -h -P now
or even better as root
2) su - password: shutdown -h -P now
3) Is it the same experience (hanging on)? 4) Does it happen GUI goes off but still power on? 5) Have you checked BIOS firmware updates available?
Hope these check points help you to find the way.
Regards,
I've also tried "init 0" from a terminal session
I found no difference because it happens randomly. In fact, it did happen recently. Maybe recent updates temporary fixed it.
Nope, still didn;t power off -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
W dniu 16.12.2012 14:43, ianseeks pisze:
On Thursday 13 Dec 2012 21:50:33 Ricardo Chung wrote:
On Thursday, December 13, 2012 03:56:57 PM ianseeks wrote:
On Tuesday 11 Dec 2012 22:23:48 Ricardo Chung wrote:
On Tuesday, December 11, 2012 05:17:24 PM ianseeks wrote:
Hi
I've also tried "init 0" from a terminal session
I found no difference because it happens randomly. In fact, it did happen recently. Maybe recent updates temporary fixed it.
Nope, still didn;t power off
Just blind shot, but some time ago I have similar problems on various boards, the solution was to disable smt (nosmt at boot). Stefan -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
ianseeks wrote:
Hi
Does anyone else have this as an issue? The system gets the "System Halted" message but does not do the next step of turning the machine off. (i pressed ESC after selecting shutdown to watch the text display of the shutdown process)
I have seen this too. I can't reboot either -- same problem. Note, I have had to use 'reboot=bios' on my command line for a long time... Without that command, on the command line, I would get the symptom I see with 12.2 boot SW... Maybe something is interfering with that? A WAG... (something I haven't tracked down yet ... not high enough on the food chain..)... -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On Tuesday 11 Dec 2012 20:24:32 Linda Walsh wrote:
ianseeks wrote:
Hi
Does anyone else have this as an issue? The system gets the "System Halted" message but does not do the next step of turning the machine off. (i pressed ESC after selecting shutdown to watch the text display of the shutdown process)
---- I have seen this too.
I can't reboot either -- same problem.
Note, I have had to use 'reboot=bios' on my command line for a long time... Without that command, on the command line, I would get the symptom I see with 12.2 boot SW...
Maybe something is interfering with that? A WAG... (something I haven't tracked down yet ... not high enough on the food chain..)...
Here is a comment i got when i commented on a bug in bugzilla that looked similar. "This is unrelated, you need to use "halt -p" to shutdown your computer (as explained in the manual). With sysvinit, we had a patch which was injecting "-p" on x86/x86_64 hardware without you noticing." -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Hi ! I have this issue on 2 (TWO) systems, both Intel based (one Quad Core and another Xeon Server). Found no solution so far. On Dec 11, 2012, at 7:17 PM, ianseeks wrote:
Hi
Does anyone else have this as an issue? The system gets the "System Halted" message but does not do the next step of turning the machine off. (i pressed ESC after selecting shutdown to watch the text display of the shutdown process)
Is there a configuration item for this or does it sound like a bug?
regards
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