May 2007 - openSUSE Project - openSUSE Mailing Lists

[opensuse-project] Re: [opensuse-wiki] KDE vs GNOME default FAQ
by Francis Giannaros 10 May '07

10 May '07

On 5/8/07, Frank Sundermeyer <fs(a)suse.de> wrote: > On Monday 07 May 2007 09:00, Andreas Jaeger wrote: > > Hi, > > > So, how should we phrase the FAQ? Here's one proposal. > > > > Q: What is the default desktop of openSUSE - GNOME or KDE? > > > > A: openSUSE supports a number of popular desktop environments, > > including GNOME and KDE. During installation, the user is asked to > > choose between GNOME and KDE but no default is given. Both desktop > > environments are mature and feature-rich, which one a user choose is > > a question of personal taste. > > since nobody objected, I put it onto the FAQ page: > > http://en.opensuse.org/Faq#What_is_the_default_desktop_of_openSUSE_-_GNOME_… > > -- > Regards > Frank Looks great; thanks Frank, Aj. One thought that just came to me though, why not change the first sentence to say: "openSUSE supports a number of popular desktop environments, including GNOME, KDE, and Xfce." What do you think? Kind thoughts, -- Francis Giannaros http://francis.giannaros.org --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-project+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] "Legal" help for FAQ:Novell-MS
by Martin Schlander 08 May '07

08 May '07

A couple of people are trying to write yet another MS-N FAQ to try to diffuse some of the misunderstandings and FUD, which continue to hurt openSUSE. http://en.opensuse.org/FAQ:Novell-MS One common misunderstanding is that Novell and MS are now friends and partners in general, can someone confirm: 1) That Novell still have litigation againt MS in the US about WordPerfect? 2) That Novell are active wrt. the current EU case against MS (mentioned here: http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,267898,00.html) Any other input that could help would also be appreciated. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-project+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] Community Meeting: Package Manager Redesign on Saturday May, 12, 2007
by Justin Haygood 08 May '07

08 May '07

This meeting is to discuss the initial stages of the package manager redesign (see http://en.opensuse.org/Package_Manager_Redesign). What: Package Manager Redesign domain discussion Where: IRC #opensuse-project, Saturday May 12, 2007: 20:00 GMT S(http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?day=12&month=5&year=… Who: Java programmers, MySQL developers, Artwork people, Packagers, web designers, anyone else interested (SUSE employees, etc..) Topics: * Definition of the project: goals * Domain of project: what it should provide, usecases and solutions * Initial planning (what we want in initial revision, what we want ready by OpenSUSE version X) If you want to help make OpenSUSE the best desktop platform in regards to adding, removing, and searching for applications (our focus is on applications, not packages for this project), you should come. Some decisions already made: 1. Java backend for the metadata service, maybe for frontend 2. MySQL 5.0 database Other decisions have yet to be made, so come! --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-project+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] Multimedia support ie. aasy installation
by Rajko M. 07 May '07

07 May '07

It could be easier for new users with interest in multimedia to have system up and running if retail version can include applications complied with that support. The survey shows that most of participants obtain openSUSE via download. 1) is it possible that if retail box would offer MM and maybe few other goodies for extra price that it would be much more popular? 2) Is it so expensive or legally impossible to have media applications that work out of the box? 3) Is it possible that "Multimedia openSUSE" can fit a bill for the OEMs and users that don't want to hunt versions with MM support enabled? The present situation is in a long run bad for both financial or adoption goals. -- Regards, Rajko. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-project+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] Add/Remove Programs idea
by Justin Haygood 07 May '07

07 May '07

After all of the package management discussion, I had an idea. Why not port Ubuntu's gnome-app-install to zypp for GNOME users? (Or create our own). This will provide an easy to use interface to install applications (not packages, not patterns, applications!). Why is this needed? Aunt Jill or Grandpa Bill or Cousin Fred who used Windows doesn't know or care what a package is, but knows very much what an application is. What I forsee: 1. An easy to use Application Installer that prompts for root password only before installation 2. The Application Installer has a list of applications in various categories, with the icon, name, description, and potentially user reviews, screenshots, etc.. (similar to Linspire CNR) 3. Uses zypp sources to provide the package data, extra information can come from a web service. 4. Installation happens natively using zypp What do people think? I'm very willing to commit resources (programming abilities and free time) for this idea. It would probably need to be broken down until 3 parts: 1. C++ Library to fetch application information from zypp and web services 2. GTK/GNOME front-end 3. KDE/Qt front-end --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-project+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] Re: openSUSE survey results now online
by Jakub Jóźwicki 06 May '07

06 May '07

Hello, Could you make these results available in public as a sql dump? Then some data mining could be done to extract useful and meaningful results. Regards, Jakub -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/mail/ --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-project+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] openSUSE survey results now online
by Michael Loeffler 06 May '07

06 May '07

Hi all, the openSUSE survey results are now online. The survey was live for almost 3 months and more than 27,000 user participated. Thank you all for your participation. With your input we all are able to make openSUSE better and better. The winners will be informed shortly. The results are now available at openSUSE: http://en.opensuse.org/UX#Explore_user_experiences or direct link to the pdf: http://files.opensuse.org/opensuse/en/6/6c/Opensuse_survey_102_data_final.p… Michael -- Michael Löffler, Product Management SUSE Linux Products GmbH, Maxfeldstraße 5, 90409 Nuremberg SUSE LINUX Products GmbH - Nürnberg - AG Nürnberg - HRB 16746 - GF: Markus Rex --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-project+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] The project contributions guidelines?
by Rajko M. 06 May '07

06 May '07

Do we need something like this: http://www.openoffice.org/dev_docs/guidelines.html We have some articles, but this is all in one place. The missing part in openSUSE is about commercial activity. Guys that doesn't have SLES and SLED size of a business, may have some impact on openSUSE budget, if they get opportunity. -- Regards, Rajko. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-project+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] Winner - Slogan for openSUSE
by Sabine Soellheim 05 May '07

05 May '07

Hi Again thank you for participating in the search for a slogan for the openSUSE project. We ended the vote last Friday. You were able to vote between nine pre-selected slogan. We did choose the slogans based on your feedback and with the intention to avoid any trademark violations. The winner is “openSUSE – Linux for open minds” with 64 votes - Alberto Passalaqua. We are going to contact the winner to reward him with a 50 cm stuffed Tux. Best, Sabine Sabine Soellheim Product Marketing Manager Novell SUSE Linux Products GmbH Maxfeldstr. 5 90409 Nürnberg --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-project+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] Slogan proposal: openSUSE - Not for my mom, but for tech enthusiasts
by Martin Schlander 03 May '07

03 May '07

<rant> Since there's yet to be an announcement for a slogan/mission statement, I'd like to make a new suggestion, one of "our own" marketing geniuses Justin Steinman came up with this brilliant idea: openSUSE - Not for my mom, but for tech enthusiasts http://www.itwire.com.au/content/view/11546/1103/1/2/ Boy would that look good on the wiki front page. I know it was already discussed at the irc meeting. But some more or less official announcements that Ubuntu will be preloaded on Dell boxes, made me feel like quoting the guy again. Thanks a lot for the help. </rant> --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-project+help(a)opensuse.org

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