Jim, 2010/3/5 Jim Henderson <jhenderson@novell.com>:

Makes sense, Rupert - the weeks are going so fast lately that I don't know what day it is any more.  :-)

I might propose that we plan on taking this on after BrainShare, unless one of the other admins has availability to help with this before then.  I think that would give us some time to plan things out in advance as well, and that would be a good approach to take.

Doing the actual testing after Brainshare sounds good to me! That provides the opportunity to further think about options we have (I see Rajko contributed a rather comprehensive approach in the meantime, I still need to go through) and you (as forums representative) are less busy and able to allocate more time to these efforts. At first glance it's important to me to bring all involved parties on the table for gathering input and that's what we managed already. So far, the implementation of the Wiki QA gained too less attention and this needed to be fixed. That said, I continously gather input on a sheet of paper, try to get this shaped and I'll also sign responsive to schedule an IRC meeting after Brainshare and think about the testing procedure. Thanks, R

Jim

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On 3/5/2010 at 06:24, in message <26d1a5471003050524x33d00dadj95be39b8abb5721c@mail.gmail.com>, Rupert Horstkötter<rhorstkoetter@opensuse.org> wrote: Jim,

I doubt this "meeting" will happen this weekend already as we had too less time to sync all interested parties. I'd like to have some more time in advance to think about what needs to be done in particular (step-by-step), i.e. a process we can go through and then come up with an invitation to key people, i.e. (try to) schedule a date/time that fits for everyone. Thanks for your general availability notice though.

Best, R

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Glad to help out, Rupert; I could possibly make myself available for a couple hours on the weekend - I'm fairly busy getting ready for BrainShare during the week.  I've got some things to do around the house this weekend as well but will probably want/need to take a break from that at some point.

What we could do is start by just testing against a web forum only and not connect it to an NNTP group.  There are some wiki users, though (DenverD comes to mind) who access using NNTP primarily so they might complain about

2010/3/4 Jim Henderson <jhenderson@novell.com>: that.  But we could start by sandboxing in a test group and see how that goes, too.  Some newsreaders thread by subject (or can be configured to do so) so that may be a minor issue, especially as it would likely affect a minority of users.

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On 3/4/2010 at 07:43, in message <26d1a5471003040643h1c14d9d8g37342520c8f9eb22@mail.gmail.com>, Rupert Horstkötter<rhorstkoetter@opensuse.org> wrote: Jim,

2010/3/3 Jim Henderson <jhenderson@novell.com>:

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Something to keep in mind on this is if there is a corresponding NNTP group for this forum, the auto-merge should take place (ideally) before the new RSS feed message is posted - otherwise you'll end up with message inconsistencies (as they'll be threaded on the web side and not on the NNTP side).

Very important feedback and something I neglected so far, thanks. That means (unfortuntely) that we'll be unable to hack the merging of threads after posting and thus we obviously need to go along with it (for now). Or do we have other ideas on the table?

All,

we now have (more or less) a precise overview of the capabilities of the vbulletin side and thus I'd like to get started testing. We'd need at least involvement from Tom, Rajko, one or more forums admins, Remy/Jon. When can we get started with this? Any remaining blockers? What about scheduling some realtime meeting on IRC while testing this?

Please provide any feedback and general availability of involved parties. I myself will go along with whatever date/time (be it during the week or at a weekend)

Thanks a lot in advance, R

PS: Remy, sorry, but monkey business seems to be needed here. Seems we should recruit at least one other Forums mod for the wiki forum.

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>> On 3/3/2010 at 00:33, in message <26d1a5471003022333s61a19d11pf60fb0728bf80cae@mail.gmail.com>, Rupert Horstkötter<rhorstkoetter@opensuse.org> wrote: Jim,

2010/2/26 Jim Henderson <jhenderson@novell.com>: > Looking in the admin interface, it looks pretty straightforward to set up a feed; it's not a custom bot, but part of the admin functionality in vBulletin.  We'd need to create a forum for the feed to feed into and the URL to the XML doc that provides the RSS feed. > > We could test this in the sandbox and then reset it for a public feed view. > Actually that's exactly what I'm planning to do as soon as we thought the "hack-possibilities" to auto-merge the thread whole through. Grabbing the feed and posting doesn't seem to be an issue, providing RSS with Hermes is fine as well. Remaining and most important now is to investigate the re-opening/merging of subsequent threads related to one single article "foobar"

All,

vBulletin doc is at http://www.vbulletin.com/docs/html/

Best, R

> Jim > > > -- >  Jim Henderson >  Program Manager, Novell Testing >  Novell, Inc. > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> On 2/26/2010 at 05:48, in message > <26d1a5471002260448o5b6afa85r76f3e24021a7436b@mail.gmail.com>, Rupert > Horstkötter<rhorstkoetter@opensuse.org> wrote: >> All, >> >> 2010/2/25 Thomas Schmidt <tom@opensuse.org>: >>> >>> According to http://www.vbulletin.com/ this is a >>> commercial product, I cannot even download the documentation... >>> So we need the technical forums admin to do that. >>> >> I just got notice from Kim that he's rather unavailable these days due >> to too much on the plate atm. That said, I'll ask him about the >> forumsbot configuration capabilities in a private conversation and >> forward the answers to you. Also I try to get the vBulletin >> documentation we need from him. Furthermore I herewith CC: the rest of >> the admin team in order to ask for their involvement. Please keep the >> CC: as is. I'm sorry for the inconvenience. >> >> Forums admins, >> >> we need some help/input regarding the FlaggedRevs Wiki QA, i.e. the >> configuration capabilities of the RSS forumsbot. Kim is rather busy >> these days, so I'm wondering if you, Carl, John, Jim would be able to >> jump in as an interim replacement? >> >> In order to sync up with the current discussion, please read this thread [1] >> >> Thanks, >> R >> >> [1] http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-wiki/2010-02/msg00069.html > >

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