Hi, On 03/06/2010 11:15 PM, Rajko M. wrote:
On Saturday 06 March 2010 07:54:40 Henne Vogelsang wrote:
On 03/05/2010 06:41 AM, Rajko M. wrote:
On Thursday 04 March 2010 06:58:21 Thomas Schmidt wrote:
I transferred the openFATE pages to the new wiki, and briefly discussed with henne where to put them. [...] Another option is to use Main namespace as openFATE is something that users should know about
Again, please leave the main namespace to the product pages of the current distribution.
:) I agree on Main. It will make it relative small, but we can extend purpose of Help namespace. To me it makes perfect sense to use Help: for all articles that talk about distro/project infrastructure.
Nope. Help is for meta documentation about the wiki itself. Remember: - Distribution Product Pages (main) - Everything for consumers - Project Pages (openSUSE:) - Everything for contributors - Wiki Documentation (Help:) - Everything for wiki contributors
At the same time we need a more detailed list of topics that should go to the Main as right now with "current distribution" as definition, even I'm puzzled what exactly should go there, as you may noticed from previous post.
We have a lot of distro information in the wiki (OpenSUSE_11.2, Product_Highlights/11.2, Screenshots/11.2, SDB, HCL, Buy_openSUSE, etc. etc.) so we should use the main namespace to present the distribution to people who want to learn about it. Answer the question: When and where can it do what for who? And how/why does it do it?
openFATE is by no means important for users of the distribution!
It seems that our understanding of "users of the distribution" is not the same :)
For me a User is a consumer of what we do. It is the category where _everyone_ belongs to. The distribution is our main product so the biggest group we serve, also with this wiki, are consumers of our distribution. Hence we do this in the main namespace. Some of the Users additionally assume the role of Contributors. Means they do not only consume what we do but also conserve (take care of) it. They are significantly smaller than the User group but equally important. Hence we give them their own space in the openSUSE: namespace. A very special form of Contributor we have to take care of with the wiki are people who use the wiki for their contribution. They are a small portion of the Contributor group, but for the wiki, and what we want to gain with it, the most important one. So we will provide them with processes, tools and documentation in the Help: namespace. There are borders where these categories of people mix and where its not so easy to distinguish between them. I'm talking for instance about User2User support which is for Users but at the same time its a contribution. Bugreporting which is clearly a contribution but also a service for Users or organization of the wiki contributors which could be a Contributor (openSUSE:) or a Wiki (Help:) topic. But for those we just need to decide and document this decision. Henne -- Henne Vogelsang, openSUSE. Everybody has a plan, until they get hit. - Mike Tyson -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+help@opensuse.org