Actually it means: [Add] to add a new configuration [Edit] to change an existing configuration [Delete] to remove an existing configuration
Right.
I assume Martin has the actual hardware (network card) in mind and of course it is nonsense to "Add", "Edit", "Delete" the hardware via a config tool. But what is meant is not the hardware but the configuration (i.e. the software settings) and then "Add", "Edit" and "Delete" make sense.
Right again :-)
I assume most users do not understand the meaning behind the names and therefore they get confused.
That would be an interesting thing to think about. Especially when thinking about YaST UI facelift and all the other topics on this mailing list. What about using: [Add] [Change] [Remove]
In contrast e.g. for printer setup there are often several configurations (i.e. several print queues) for the same piece of hardware so that a simple "Configure" is misleading when you try to add a queue for a printer for which there is already a queue - therefore "Add" is used.
Yapp. I am very curious myselft how we will change it :-)
But even for a network card a simple "Configure" may be not sufficient because which button name should be used to set up a second interface for the same network card?
Mzugec: Is this a valid use case?
What exactly should "Disable" mean for a network card? Keep the hardware driver loaded but shut down the network interface or what?
As far as I remember the plan is to show disabled network cards in the list until the network card (hardware piece) is removed.
I think the basic problem is how to make it obvious to the user that a software setup tool cannot do anything with his hardware but only change something in the operating system software.
But is this really a problem? Our data shows that people actually using our products and the YaST configuration have at least some experience with computers. Most openSUSE users (70%) are experienced users with technical skills (e.g. setting up a server or performing updates) or they are so experienced that they are actually making money with their IT skills. The SLED users have very limited access to their configuration (if they have any at all) and well I think the SLES guys need not to be mentioned :-) Research shows that the ultimate newbie user doesn't do any configuration at all. When he gets a new piece of hardware he just calls someone with experience. Enjoy, Martin -- Martin Schmidkunz User Experience Specialist martin.schmidkunz@novell.com +49 (0) 911 740 53-346 ------------------------------------- SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) ------------------------------------- Novell, Inc. SUSE® Linux Enterprise 10 Your Linux is ready http://www.novell.com/linux -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-usability+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-usability+help@opensuse.org