James, if you have time before you start your week off, can you give me a quick rundown on this ULB-GNOME I keep seeing pop up on the list? If I were to, for example, install all the Gnome stuff on usr-local-bin, would that replace my SuSE Gnome? Is there a location where you describe the differences? I can handle an RPM install provided it is especially designed for SuSE 9.0 but I am pretty much a Linux newbie so please be gentle. Don Henson
James, if you have time before you start your week off, can you give me a quick rundown on this ULB-GNOME I keep seeing pop up on the list? If I were to, for example, install all the Gnome stuff on usr-local-bin, would that replace my SuSE Gnome? Is there a location where you describe the differences? I can handle an RPM install provided it is especially designed for SuSE 9.0 but I am pretty much a Linux newbie so please be gentle.
Yes, it replaces the SuSE GNOME defaults. It's an RPM install, with potentially quite a few dependencies (all of which are available from my site, or on the SuSE CDs), which is why I recommend using APT to install - there's a guide on the site. Pretty well everyone who I've heard from who uses it seems to really like it, especially in comparison to the SuSE default GNOME setup. A quick redux of the difference is easy by me pasting the changes in each version: Version 0.1 Changed GDM and splash themes and wallpaper to remove SuSE branding OpenOffice.org documents now correctly associated with OpenOffice.org by default Menu theming available with themes that support it Panel launchers pick up icon theme changes without logging out & in GTK1 theme tracks GTK2 theme where matching themes are available Improved default panel configuration Improved Applications menu with launchers to main GNOME applications Added various GNOME wallpapers Evolution handles mailto URLs by default Galeon is default URL handler and browser Yelp handles help type URLs by default Nautilus handles smb URLs by default OpenOffice.org menu entry in Office section Version 0.2 Uses the Bitstream Vera fonts by default Adds theme management tools to Nautilus Updated Nautilus, gnome-desktop and eel2 Version 0.3 Updated gnome-terminal eliminates seg fault on startup Updated gnome-icon-theme includes spinner, and much nicer set of default icons Updated gstreamer multimedia backend and plugins package Updated nautilus-media and gnome-media2 to use new gstreamer net-Rhythmbox - your one-stop multimedia application Updated gnome-panel with themable Applications menu Version 0.3.2 Default interface changes: consistent spinner across Galeon and Nautilus, and lock & logout buttons on panel by default Updated GStreamer & plugins (which now work) Rhythmbox - replaces net-Rhythmbox from previous version Updated gnome-icon-theme Version 0.4.0 "The Media Release" Rhythmbox updated to 0.5.3 gst-player (video player based on GStreamer) Sound Juicer (CD Ripper based on GStreamer) Updated Metacity - the GNOME window manager Version 0.4.1 "Michael" Move the menu stripe pixmap to gnome-panel, so people don't need to use the full ULB-GNOME install to have a themed panel menu Add default desktop icons for Evolution, Galeon and OpenOffice.org Version 0.6.0 "The Longest Day" SuSE 9.0 support under the bonnet changes Smooth-Themes has been renamed to ulb-themes Server Config and System Config have been replaced with YaST in Start Here URLs opened in Galeon open in a new tab rather than a new window by default Version 0.6.1 "All you can eat!" Use text under icons by default on toolbars Use the usr local bin site as Galeon's default homepage Use the GNOME icon theme's Home icon for the Home Folder entry on the Applications menu Updated gnome-icon-theme package to latest version Version 0.6.2 "28-17" Shorten Name field in some root-level Applications menu entries Updated Nautilus to remove pointless Network Servers menu entry Updated gnome-panel to remove pointless SuSE Menu entry Under-the-bonnet tidying of gnome-vfs2 patches Version 0.6.3 "Iconic" Much better icon for the usr local bin Homepage menu entry Updated gnome-panel to use this improved icon in the menu stripe Updated gnome-icon-theme Evolution displays the folder tree by default for new users One day, I'll explain all the version codenames ;) -- James Ogley, Webmaster, Rubber Turnip james@rubberturnip.org.uk http://www.rubberturnip.org.uk Jabber: riggwelter@myjabber.net Using Free Software since 1994, running GNU/Linux (SuSE 9.0) GNOME updates for SuSE: http://www.usr-local-bin.org
On Fri, 2003-11-14 at 10:00, James Ogley wrote:
James, if you have time before you start your week off, can you give me a quick rundown on this ULB-GNOME I keep seeing pop up on the list? If I were to, for example, install all the Gnome stuff on usr-local-bin, would that replace my SuSE Gnome? Is there a location where you describe the differences? I can handle an RPM install provided it is especially designed for SuSE 9.0 but I am pretty much a Linux newbie so please be gentle.
Yes, it replaces the SuSE GNOME defaults.
It's an RPM install, with potentially quite a few dependencies (all of which are available from my site, or on the SuSE CDs), which is why I recommend using APT to install - there's a guide on the site.
Pretty well everyone who I've heard from who uses it seems to really like it, especially in comparison to the SuSE default GNOME setup.
A quick redux of the difference is easy by me pasting the changes in each version:
Version 0.1 Changed GDM and splash themes and wallpaper to remove SuSE branding OpenOffice.org documents now correctly associated with OpenOffice.org by default Menu theming available with themes that support it Panel launchers pick up icon theme changes without logging out & in GTK1 theme tracks GTK2 theme where matching themes are available Improved default panel configuration Improved Applications menu with launchers to main GNOME applications Added various GNOME wallpapers Evolution handles mailto URLs by default Galeon is default URL handler and browser Yelp handles help type URLs by default Nautilus handles smb URLs by default OpenOffice.org menu entry in Office section
Version 0.2 Uses the Bitstream Vera fonts by default Adds theme management tools to Nautilus Updated Nautilus, gnome-desktop and eel2
Version 0.3 Updated gnome-terminal eliminates seg fault on startup Updated gnome-icon-theme includes spinner, and much nicer set of default icons Updated gstreamer multimedia backend and plugins package Updated nautilus-media and gnome-media2 to use new gstreamer net-Rhythmbox - your one-stop multimedia application Updated gnome-panel with themable Applications menu
Version 0.3.2 Default interface changes: consistent spinner across Galeon and Nautilus, and lock & logout buttons on panel by default Updated GStreamer & plugins (which now work) Rhythmbox - replaces net-Rhythmbox from previous version Updated gnome-icon-theme
Version 0.4.0 "The Media Release" Rhythmbox updated to 0.5.3 gst-player (video player based on GStreamer) Sound Juicer (CD Ripper based on GStreamer) Updated Metacity - the GNOME window manager
Version 0.4.1 "Michael" Move the menu stripe pixmap to gnome-panel, so people don't need to use the full ULB-GNOME install to have a themed panel menu Add default desktop icons for Evolution, Galeon and OpenOffice.org
Version 0.6.0 "The Longest Day" SuSE 9.0 support under the bonnet changes Smooth-Themes has been renamed to ulb-themes Server Config and System Config have been replaced with YaST in Start Here URLs opened in Galeon open in a new tab rather than a new window by default
Version 0.6.1 "All you can eat!" Use text under icons by default on toolbars Use the usr local bin site as Galeon's default homepage Use the GNOME icon theme's Home icon for the Home Folder entry on the Applications menu Updated gnome-icon-theme package to latest version
Version 0.6.2 "28-17" Shorten Name field in some root-level Applications menu entries Updated Nautilus to remove pointless Network Servers menu entry Updated gnome-panel to remove pointless SuSE Menu entry Under-the-bonnet tidying of gnome-vfs2 patches
Version 0.6.3 "Iconic" Much better icon for the usr local bin Homepage menu entry Updated gnome-panel to use this improved icon in the menu stripe Updated gnome-icon-theme Evolution displays the folder tree by default for new users
One day, I'll explain all the version codenames ;) -- James Ogley, Webmaster, Rubber Turnip james@rubberturnip.org.uk http://www.rubberturnip.org.uk Jabber: riggwelter@myjabber.net Using Free Software since 1994, running GNU/Linux (SuSE 9.0) GNOME updates for SuSE: http://www.usr-local-bin.org
Ok. I'll do some studying on APT. Some comments I've seen indicate that it is fairly easy to do serious damage to an installation using APT. Is there anything special that I should be aware of? Don Henson
Ok. I'll do some studying on APT. Some comments I've seen indicate that it is fairly easy to do serious damage to an installation using APT. Is there anything special that I should be aware of?
Pretty well all you need to know can be found on the apt4rpm site - have fun Holi-holidays... :) -- James Ogley, Webmaster, Rubber Turnip james@rubberturnip.org.uk http://www.rubberturnip.org.uk Jabber: riggwelter@myjabber.net Using Free Software since 1994, running GNU/Linux (SuSE 9.0). GNOME updates for SuSE: http://www.usr-local-bin.org
On Fri, 2003-11-14 at 11:28, James Ogley wrote:
Ok. I'll do some studying on APT. Some comments I've seen indicate that it is fairly easy to do serious damage to an installation using APT. Is there anything special that I should be aware of?
Pretty well all you need to know can be found on the apt4rpm site - have fun
Holi-holidays... :) -- James Ogley, Webmaster, Rubber Turnip james@rubberturnip.org.uk http://www.rubberturnip.org.uk Jabber: riggwelter@myjabber.net Using Free Software since 1994, running GNU/Linux (SuSE 9.0). GNOME updates for SuSE: http://www.usr-local-bin.org
Thanks. Don Henson
* Donald Henson (wepin@wepin.com) [031114 09:27]:
On Fri, 2003-11-14 at 10:00, James Ogley wrote:
Ok. I'll do some studying on APT. Some comments I've seen indicate that it is fairly easy to do serious damage to an installation using APT. Is there anything special that I should be aware of?
Yes. Pay attention to what apt is going to do. It's output when you run it will tell you everything that it's doing. It's a nice tool but it's not a click, add and remove. Make sure that you put only the directories you need in the sources.list file so that you don't have apt uninstalling things you need and then putting alpha/beta versions of pkgs into your machine. My sources.list for 9.0 looks like this so far... rpm ftp://ftp.gwdg.de/pub/linux/suse/apt/ SuSE/9.0-i386 update security suser-rbos suser-tcousin usr-local-bin funktronics kde packman packman-i686 Do not put things like suse-people and mantel in the list as these are prime examples of test pkg directories. When SUSE posts 9.0 for ftp install then you'll probably only add the directory "base" to the above sources.list because base is the whole distro. This is good for when you try to install a pkg via apt and it has deps..it can automatically get them instead of you having to use the cd's. Check out apt4rpm.sourceforge.net and read up on it. :) Cheers! -- Ben Rosenberg ---===--- #147972 ---===--- mailto:ben@whack.org ----- If two men agree on everything, you can be sure that only one of them is doing the thinking.
On Fri, 2003-11-14 at 18:23, Ben Rosenberg wrote:
* Donald Henson (wepin@wepin.com) [031114 09:27]:
On Fri, 2003-11-14 at 10:00, James Ogley wrote:
Ok. I'll do some studying on APT. Some comments I've seen indicate that it is fairly easy to do serious damage to an installation using APT. Is there anything special that I should be aware of?
Yes. Pay attention to what apt is going to do. It's output when you run it will tell you everything that it's doing. It's a nice tool but it's not a click, add and remove. Make sure that you put only the directories you need in the sources.list file so that you don't have apt uninstalling things you need and then putting alpha/beta versions of pkgs into your machine. My sources.list for 9.0 looks like this so far...
rpm ftp://ftp.gwdg.de/pub/linux/suse/apt/ SuSE/9.0-i386 update security suser-rbos suser-tcousin usr-local-bin funktronics kde packman packman-i686
Do not put things like suse-people and mantel in the list as these are prime examples of test pkg directories. When SUSE posts 9.0 for ftp install then you'll probably only add the directory "base" to the above sources.list because base is the whole distro. This is good for when you try to install a pkg via apt and it has deps..it can automatically get them instead of you having to use the cd's.
Check out apt4rpm.sourceforge.net and read up on it. :)
Cheers! -- Ben Rosenberg ---===--- #147972 ---===--- mailto:ben@whack.org ----- If two men agree on everything, you can be sure that only one of them is doing the thinking.
Thanks for the advice. I had already planned to spend a lot of time studying APT but it's nice to know a few things to look out for ahead of time. Don Henson
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