[opensuse] Reboot to Vista does not work
Perhaps this should be a bug report, but I thought I would ask first... When I am rebooting via the KDE shutdown menu, and select Vista as my OS that I want to reboot to, it fails. The GRUB boot menu always comes up with my default openSuSE 11.2 selected, and if I am not watching it will automatically reboot back to openSuSE and not Vista, as I had selected... Have I mis-configured the boot somehow or is this a bug? Running under openSuSE11.2 and KDE 4.4.3 BTW FWIW That shutdown/reboot menu of KDE is a PITA. My normal tendency is to click on the down arrow and release the click button, expecting the menu of choices to pop open and STAY open.. Not mean simply reboot. Most menus will open and stay open when the menu pulldown button is clicked... If I want to simply reboot, clicking on the reboot button anywhere else, other than the pulldown arrow should suffice... IMHO that is... ;-) Marc..
Marc Chamberlin said the following on 05/23/2010 06:04 PM:
BTW FWIW That shutdown/reboot menu of KDE is a PITA. My normal tendency is to click on the down arrow and release the click button, expecting the menu of choices to pop open and STAY open.. Not mean simply reboot. Most menus will open and stay open when the menu pulldown button is clicked... If I want to simply reboot, clicking on the reboot button anywhere else, other than the pulldown arrow should suffice... IMHO that is... ;-)
Are we talking about the same thing? I click on the KDE menu click on the "leave" and the menu stays there. I also have the "lock/logout" applet on my KDE panel bar. When I click on that I get a menu in the middle of the screen. That doesn't go away either. The same when I right-click on a blank part of the screen and select 'leave' from that menu. What "down arrow"? Perhaps you need to configure your UI differently? Or are you taking about KDM not KDE? the login dialogue box. For me, the pull-down option "shut-down" leads to a menu that again stays there, offering shut-down or reboot. I gather there is a configuration file for this too, but all I I've ever done wit it is change the background image. -- Definitions are temporary verbalizations of concepts, and concepts -- particularly difficult concepts -- are usually revised repeatedly as our knowledge and understanding grows. -- Ernst Mayr -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On 5/23/2010 3:25 PM, Anton Aylward wrote:
Marc Chamberlin said the following on 05/23/2010 06:04 PM:
BTW FWIW That shutdown/reboot menu of KDE is a PITA. My normal tendency is to click on the down arrow and release the click button, expecting the menu of choices to pop open and STAY open.. Not mean simply reboot. Most menus will open and stay open when the menu pulldown button is clicked... If I want to simply reboot, clicking on the reboot button anywhere else, other than the pulldown arrow should suffice... IMHO that is... ;-)
Are we talking about the same thing? I click on the KDE menu click on the "leave" and the menu stays there.
I also have the "lock/logout" applet on my KDE panel bar. When I click on that I get a menu in the middle of the screen. That doesn't go away either.
The same when I right-click on a blank part of the screen and select 'leave' from that menu.
What "down arrow"?
Perhaps you need to configure your UI differently?
Or are you taking about KDM not KDE? the login dialogue box. For me, the pull-down option "shut-down" leads to a menu that again stays there, offering shut-down or reboot. I gather there is a configuration file for this too, but all I I've ever done wit it is change the background image.
1. Click on the SuSE symbol in the kicker bar to bring up the main menu. 2. Mouse over the Leave icon and select Restart 3. That brings up a pop up confirmation dialog asking you if you want to Restart Computer. 4. Near the bottom of the confirmation dialog you will see a small down arrow. If you click on the down arrow and HOLD the mouse button down, DO NOT RELEASE IT, after a couple seconds a pulldown menu will appear with the choices offered by the GRUB bootloader as to what operating system you want to reboot too. I am complaining about the fact that you have to hold down the mouse button in order to bring this menu up. Most pull down menus follow the paradigm of simply clicking on the pull down button, then releasing the mouse click, then the pull down list appears. My fingers are trained this way from using all the other pull down menus in 99% of apps. This confirmation Reboot dialog is following a different/unusual paradigm and it is constantly a PITA, because if I release the mouse button, out of habit, I just get the standard reboot, when I actually did want to select what OS to reboot to! I admit it is a small PITA as PITA's go... But I cannot count how many times I have cursed it! Marc...
On Mon, May 24, 2010 at 8:35 AM, Marc Chamberlin
On 5/23/2010 3:25 PM, Anton Aylward wrote: ...
1. Click on the SuSE symbol in the kicker bar to bring up the main menu. 2. Mouse over the Leave icon and select Restart 3. That brings up a pop up confirmation dialog asking you if you want to Restart Computer. 4. Near the bottom of the confirmation dialog you will see a small down arrow. If you click on the down arrow and HOLD the mouse button down, DO NOT RELEASE IT, after a couple seconds a pulldown menu will appear with the choices offered by the GRUB bootloader as to what operating system you want to reboot too.
I am complaining about the fact that you have to hold down the mouse button in order to bring this menu up. Most pull down menus follow the paradigm of simply clicking on the pull down button, then releasing the mouse click, then the pull down list appears. My fingers are trained this way from using all the other pull down menus in 99% of apps. This confirmation Reboot dialog is following a different/unusual paradigm and it is constantly a PITA, because if I release the mouse button, out of habit, I just get the standard reboot, when I actually did want to select what OS to reboot to!
I admit it is a small PITA as PITA's go... But I cannot count how many times I have cursed it!
Marc, I've seen once this issue on older versions of oS with KDE3. It happened when for some reason KDE "forgotten" that boot manager is grub. So the cure was going to preferences, login manager and select grub as boot manager. Regards, -- Mark Goldstein -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Marc Chamberlin said the following on 05/24/2010 01:35 AM:
On 5/23/2010 3:25 PM, Anton Aylward wrote:
What "down arrow"?
1. Click on the SuSE symbol in the kicker bar to bring up the main menu. 2. Mouse over the Leave icon and select Restart 3. That brings up a pop up confirmation dialog asking you if you want to Restart Computer. 4. Near the bottom of the confirmation dialog you will see a small down arrow. If you click on the down arrow and HOLD the mouse button down, DO NOT RELEASE IT, after a couple seconds a pulldown menu will appear with the choices offered by the GRUB bootloader as to what operating system you want to reboot too.
Oh,neat! I never noticed that. My eyes are getting old :-( Well here I am again. Its hard to click on such a small arrow, I keep rebooting the system :-( It looks like there is an arrow on shutdown as well as restart ...
I am complaining about the fact that you have to hold down the mouse button in order to bring this menu up. Most pull down menus follow the paradigm of simply clicking on the pull down button, then releasing the mouse click, then the pull down list appears.
After a number of restarts I've established that ... 1. This arrow is small. Its easy to miss it, both visually and in terms of clicking on it accurately 2. If you hold the mouse button down for more than ~about~ half a second the menu does stay up, but you are right, simply clicking is not enough.
[...] when I actually did want to select what OS to reboot to!
Well, I try not to reboot too often :-) And I only have openSuse in my boot menu. Virtualization is wonderful :-) And if I'm hard pressed, I have an old laptop that my father discarded in the closet that run Windows. I understand your annoyance[1]. I wonder if there is a configuration option hidden somewhere for this? Just about everything else in KDE is configurable :-) Hmm. I wonder if that arrow, its size and the stickiness is a function of the theme ? [1] Aren't you glad you don't use Windows all the time :-) -- Men never do evil so completely and cheerfully as when they do it from religious conviction. --Blaise Pascal (Pensees, 1670) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Mon, 2010-05-24 at 09:47 -0400, Anton Aylward wrote:
1. This arrow is small. Its easy to miss it, both visually and in terms of clicking on it accurately
Be glad you also have text that you can see. I have a few 11.2 installs where the text is black on a black background. Those users are real happy as they also feel the ICONS are not logically distinct. It becomes more obvious when the text is not visible. They are never sure if they are logging out or rebooting the system. Lots of finger crossing. And the occasional swearing. -- Roger Oberholtzer OPQ Systems / Ramböll RST Ramböll Sverige AB Krukmakargatan 21 P.O. Box 17009 SE-104 62 Stockholm, Sweden Office: Int +46 10-615 60 20 Mobile: Int +46 70-815 1696 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On 23/05/10 23:04, Marc Chamberlin wrote:
Perhaps this should be a bug report, but I thought I would ask first... When I am rebooting via the KDE shutdown menu, and select Vista as my OS that I want to reboot to, it fails. The GRUB boot menu always comes up with my default openSuSE 11.2 selected, and if I am not watching it will automatically reboot back to openSuSE and not Vista, as I had selected... Have I mis-configured the boot somehow or is this a bug? Running under openSuSE11.2 and KDE 4.4.3 KDM calls the system script /usr/sbin/grubonce to do this.
Try running it manually (as root) - without any arguments it lists the possible choices, then with the index it gives you to set the choice for the next reboot. e.g.
/usr/sbin/grubonce # 0 : openSUSE # 1 : Windows
/usr/sbin/grubonce 1
Does it work then? Regards, Tejas -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On 05/23/2010 06:04 PM, Marc Chamberlin wrote:
The GRUB boot menu always comes up with my default openSuSE 11.2 selected, and if I am not watching it will automatically reboot back to openSuSE and not Vista, as I had selected... Have I mis-configured the boot somehow or is this a bug? Running under openSuSE11.2 and KDE 4.4.3 Grub will default to whatever selection you have in /boot/grub/menu.1st
default 0 timeout 8 ##YaST - generic_mbr gfxmenu (hd0,1)/message ##YaST - activate change the default to whatever stanza you want to be the default. Grub will not remember the last option selected. -- Michael S. Dunsavage -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Mon, May 24, 2010 at 8:04 AM, Marc Chamberlin
Perhaps this should be a bug report, but I thought I would ask first... When I am rebooting via the KDE shutdown menu, and select Vista as my OS that I want to reboot to, it fails. The GRUB boot menu always comes up with my default openSuSE 11.2 selected, and if I am not watching it will automatically reboot back to openSuSE and not Vista, as I had selected... Have I mis-configured the boot somehow or is this a bug? Running under openSuSE11.2 and KDE 4.4.3
BTW FWIW That shutdown/reboot menu of KDE is a PITA. My normal tendency is to click on the down arrow and release the click button, expecting the menu of choices to pop open and STAY open.. Not mean simply reboot. Most menus will open and stay open when the menu pulldown button is clicked... If I want to simply reboot, clicking on the reboot button anywhere else, other than the pulldown arrow should suffice... IMHO that is... ;-)
Marc..
Hey Marc, Yep, I have this problem too. I was assuming that it was caused by a reinstall of Win7, as I did a number of upgrades/reinstalls at a similar time.... Hopefully someone will come up wiith the answer. John -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Monday 24 of May 2010, Marc Chamberlin wrote:
Perhaps this should be a bug report, but I thought I would ask first... When I am rebooting via the KDE shutdown menu, and select Vista as my OS that I want to reboot to, it fails. The GRUB boot menu always comes up with my default openSuSE 11.2 selected, and if I am not watching it will automatically reboot back to openSuSE and not Vista, as I had selected... Have I mis-configured the boot somehow or is this a bug? Running under openSuSE11.2 and KDE 4.4.3
Works for me. Make sure you have up-to-date kdebase4-workspace, this was fixed not a long time ago. -- Lubos Lunak openSUSE Boosters team, KDE developer l.lunak@suse.cz , l.lunak@kde.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
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