Where the @#$@*^ does Chromium save passwords?
I have found Google like to make it difficult to find things, but one thing that has me beat is saved passwords. I have followed the directions that take me to Auto-fill > Saved Passwords, but there is nothing saved there. Any ideas? tnx jk
* James Knott <james.knott@jknott.net> [10-30-22 11:41]:
I have found Google like to make it difficult to find things, but one thing that has me beat is saved passwords. I have followed the directions that take me to Auto-fill > Saved Passwords, but there is nothing saved there.
Any ideas?
tnx jk
?probably? when you enter a password to an account that has not been saved, you are presented with the option to save it. and you have not opted so. if you do not save any passwords, none should appear saved. google is trying to make you happy. -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.org openSUSE Community Member facebook/ptilopteri Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet oftc
On 2022-10-30 11:45, Patrick Shanahan wrote:
* James Knott <james.knott@jknott.net> [10-30-22 11:41]:
I have found Google like to make it difficult to find things, but one thing that has me beat is saved passwords. I have followed the directions that take me to Auto-fill > Saved Passwords, but there is nothing saved there.
Any ideas?
tnx jk
?probably? when you enter a password to an account that has not been saved, you are presented with the option to save it. and you have not opted so.
if you do not save any passwords, none should appear saved. google is trying to make you happy.
I have a few accounts I have been using for years and the passwords autofill. So, they are saved somewhere(?), but not where they're supposed to be.
* James Knott <james.knott@jknott.net> [10-30-22 11:49]:
On 2022-10-30 11:45, Patrick Shanahan wrote:
* James Knott <james.knott@jknott.net> [10-30-22 11:41]:
I have found Google like to make it difficult to find things, but one thing that has me beat is saved passwords. I have followed the directions that take me to Auto-fill > Saved Passwords, but there is nothing saved there.
Any ideas?
tnx jk
?probably? when you enter a password to an account that has not been saved, you are presented with the option to save it. and you have not opted so.
if you do not save any passwords, none should appear saved. google is trying to make you happy.
I have a few accounts I have been using for years and the passwords autofill. So, they are saved somewhere(?), but not where they're supposed to be.
then perhaps you are using another application to save/apply passwords? we tend to lose cognizance as we age :) -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.org openSUSE Community Member facebook/ptilopteri Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet oftc
On 2022-10-30 11:57, Patrick Shanahan wrote:
I have a few accounts I have been using for years and the passwords autofill. So, they are saved somewhere(?), but not where they're supposed to be.
then perhaps you are using another application to save/apply passwords?
we tend to lose cognizance as we age 😄
No I'm not and have no problem finding saved passwords in Firefox.
* James Knott <james.knott@jknott.net> [10-30-22 11:59]:
On 2022-10-30 11:57, Patrick Shanahan wrote:
I have a few accounts I have been using for years and the passwords autofill. So, they are saved somewhere(?), but not where they're supposed to be.
then perhaps you are using another application to save/apply passwords?
we tend to lose cognizance as we age 😄
No I'm not and have no problem finding saved passwords in Firefox.
then your chromium is *badly* broken! if it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck, ... maybe it's a duck. -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.org openSUSE Community Member facebook/ptilopteri Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet oftc
* James Knott <james.knott@jknott.net> [10-30-22 12:10]:
On 2022-10-30 12:02, Patrick Shanahan wrote:
then your chromium is*badly* broken!
Well, it's the one that came with openSUSE or updates.
then your chromium "installation" is *badly* broken! or your entire system is suspect. if passwords are appearing and/or being applied where they should not be, you have been rooted. or you did it to yourself. -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.org openSUSE Community Member facebook/ptilopteri Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet oftc
On 2022-10-30 12:20, Patrick Shanahan wrote:
Well, it's the one that came with openSUSE or updates. then your chromium "installation" is*badly* broken! or your entire system is suspect.
if passwords are appearing and/or being applied where they should not be, you have been rooted.
or you did it to yourself.
No, the appropriate passwords are appearing where they should, for example in GMail. However, there is one site that I log into where I have forgotten the password and I'd like to find out what it is. Other than installing openSUSE, I have done nothing to set up Chromium.
On Sun, Oct 30, 2022 at 11:25 AM James Knott <james.knott@jknott.net> wrote:
No, the appropriate passwords are appearing where they should, for example in GMail. However, there is one site that I log into where I have forgotten the password and I'd like to find out what it is. Other than installing openSUSE, I have done nothing to set up Chromium.
I have observed this behavior, too. I eventually gave up. -Nick
On 2022-10-30 12:33, Nick LeRoy wrote:
On Sun, Oct 30, 2022 at 11:25 AM James Knott <james.knott@jknott.net> wrote:
No, the appropriate passwords are appearing where they should, for example in GMail. However, there is one site that I log into where I have forgotten the password and I'd like to find out what it is. Other than installing openSUSE, I have done nothing to set up Chromium. I have observed this behavior, too. I eventually gave up.
There is the Google password manager, but it contains passwords I already know about.
* James Knott <james.knott@jknott.net> [10-30-22 12:25]:
On 2022-10-30 12:20, Patrick Shanahan wrote:
Well, it's the one that came with openSUSE or updates. then your chromium "installation" is*badly* broken! or your entire system is suspect.
if passwords are appearing and/or being applied where they should not be, you have been rooted.
or you did it to yourself.
No, the appropriate passwords are appearing where they should, for example in GMail. However, there is one site that I log into where I have forgotten the password and I'd like to find out what it is. Other than installing openSUSE, I have done nothing to set up Chromium.
that is not what you presented before. difficult to help someone when the actual problem is not defined. and I have installed openSUSE three times in the last weel and chromium has never appeared. why are you looking for the password on chromium if you haven't/don't use chromium? If the app you used to log into that "one site" has not the password, I cannot understand how any other app would, unless you specifically saved it there. But then *you* should know where to find the password. Looks like you need to contact the site and request a password reset. -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.org openSUSE Community Member facebook/ptilopteri Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet oftc
On 2022-10-30 13:31, Patrick Shanahan wrote:
* James Knott <james.knott@jknott.net> [10-30-22 12:25]:
Well, it's the one that came with openSUSE or updates. then your chromium "installation" is*badly* broken! or your entire system is suspect.
if passwords are appearing and/or being applied where they should not be, you have been rooted.
or you did it to yourself. No, the appropriate passwords are appearing where they should, for example in GMail. However, there is one site that I log into where I have forgotten
On 2022-10-30 12:20, Patrick Shanahan wrote: the password and I'd like to find out what it is. Other than installing openSUSE, I have done nothing to set up Chromium.
that is not what you presented before. difficult to help someone when the actual problem is not defined.
and I have installed openSUSE three times in the last weel and chromium has never appeared.
why are you looking for the password on chromium if you haven't/don't use chromium?
If the app you used to log into that "one site" has not the password, I cannot understand how any other app would, unless you specifically saved it there. But then *you* should know where to find the password. Looks like you need to contact the site and request a password reset.
???? Are you not paying attention. I have Chromium installed, though I use Firefox more often. The password I can't find is for a site that I access from Chromium. I don't have the password for that site in Firefox. If I did, it would be easy to find it. When I first posted, it was about where Chromium stores the password, because that is the app I use for the site in question. It is not in the Autofill > Saved passwords. In fact, nothing is there. It's not in Google's password manager, though several others are. And I can't find it in KWalletManager.
Web search was no help? <https://chromium.googlesource.com/chromium/src/+/master/docs/linux/password_storage.md> I don't purposely save any passwords or usernames using Chromium, which is what I use for banking and little else due to its PITA UI and affinity to Google. -- Evolution as taught in public schools is, like religion, based on faith, not based on science. Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata
On 2022-10-30 14:09, Felix Miata wrote:
Web search was no help? <https://chromium.googlesource.com/chromium/src/+/master/docs/linux/password_storage.md>
I don't purposely save any passwords or usernames using Chromium, which is what I use for banking and little else due to its PITA UI and affinity to Google.
Someone else mentioned that link. I use Firefox for most things, including banking. However, there are a few things I do in Chromium.
On Sun, 30 Oct 2022 11:40:28 -0400 James Knott <james.knott@jknott.net> wrote:
I have found Google like to make it difficult to find things, but one thing that has me beat is saved passwords. I have followed the directions that take me to Auto-fill > Saved Passwords, but there is nothing saved there.
Any ideas?
Does https://chromium.googlesource.com/chromium/src/+/master/docs/linux/password_... shed any light?
On 2022-10-30 16:40, James Knott wrote:
I have found Google like to make it difficult to find things, but one thing that has me beat is saved passwords. I have followed the directions that take me to Auto-fill > Saved Passwords, but there is nothing saved there.
Any ideas?
I had the same question some years back, and the answer if I remember correctly is that the desktop, not Chrome, saved them. -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 15.3 x86_64 at Telcontar)
On 2022-10-30 13:42, Carlos E. R. wrote:
I have found Google like to make it difficult to find things, but one thing that has me beat is saved passwords. I have followed the directions that take me to Auto-fill > Saved Passwords, but there is nothing saved there.
Any ideas?
I had the same question some years back, and the answer if I remember correctly is that the desktop, not Chrome, saved them.
Where does the desktop save them?
On Sun, 30 Oct 2022 13:45:38 -0400 James Knott <james.knott@jknott.net> wrote:
On 2022-10-30 13:42, Carlos E. R. wrote:
I have found Google like to make it difficult to find things, but one thing that has me beat is saved passwords. I have followed the directions that take me to Auto-fill > Saved Passwords, but there is nothing saved there.
Any ideas?
I had the same question some years back, and the answer if I remember correctly is that the desktop, not Chrome, saved them.
Where does the desktop save them?
Clipboard something? Just guessing. Try disabling clibboard, or its retention. I wouldn't let any critical data to be saved at all except with my own encryption, certainly not as passwords, and certainly not in any predictable path or format. I don't use Chromium hardly at all though. -- Artificial-Stupidity will never be competitive
On 2022-10-30 18:45, James Knott wrote:
On 2022-10-30 13:42, Carlos E. R. wrote:
I have found Google like to make it difficult to find things, but one thing that has me beat is saved passwords. I have followed the directions that take me to Auto-fill > Saved Passwords, but there is nothing saved there.
Any ideas?
I had the same question some years back, and the answer if I remember correctly is that the desktop, not Chrome, saved them.
Where does the desktop save them?
Depends on what desktop you used when you saved the password, and you have not said that. The link posted says: On Linux, Chromium can store passwords in three ways: GNOME Keyring KWallet 4 plain text The other answer: "In sqlite database 'Login Data' in profile directory". sqlite is not a program, but a library and a methodology, a type of databases (rpm used sqlite at some point, I think). Any Linux install has it, it is part of the basics. You only have to know where the database is. David says it is "~/.chromium/profiles/davidtg/Default". I don't use chromium, so I can not test. -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 15.3 x86_64 at Telcontar)
On 2022-10-30 15:43, Carlos E. R. wrote:
Depends on what desktop you used when you saved the password, and you have not said that.
KDE as provided with openSUSE 15.4.
The link posted says:
On Linux, Chromium can store passwords in three ways:
GNOME Keyring KWallet 4 plain text
I checked those.
The other answer: "In sqlite database 'Login Data' in profile directory". sqlite is not a program, but a library and a methodology, a type of databases (rpm used sqlite at some point, I think). Any Linux install has it, it is part of the basics. You only have to know where the database is. David says it is "~/.chromium/profiles/davidtg/Default". I don't use chromium, so I can not test.
I don't have that.
On Sun, 30 Oct 2022 20:43:52 +0100 "Carlos E. R." <robin.listas@telefonica.net> wrote: [snip]
The other answer: "In sqlite database 'Login Data' in profile directory". sqlite is not a program, but a library and a methodology, a type of databases (rpm used sqlite at some point, I think).
err $ which sqlite3 /usr/bin/sqlite3 $ man sqlite3 Man: find all matching manual pages (set MAN_POSIXLY_CORRECT to avoid this) * sqlite3 (1) sqlite3 (n) Man: What manual page do you want? Man: 1 SQLITE3(1) General Commands Manual SQLITE3(1) NAME sqlite3 - A command line interface for SQLite version 3
Any Linux install has it, it is part of the basics. You only have to know where the database is. David says it is "~/.chromium/profiles/davidtg/Default". I don't use chromium, so I can not test.
On 30.10.2022 18:40, James Knott wrote:
I have found Google like to make it difficult to find things, but one thing that has me beat is saved passwords. I have followed the directions that take me to Auto-fill > Saved Passwords, but there is nothing saved there.
Any ideas?
In sqlite database 'Login Data' in profile directory.
* James Knott <james.knott@jknott.net> [10-30-22 14:48]:
On 2022-10-30 14:45, Andrei Borzenkov wrote:
In sqlite database 'Login Data' in profile directory.
Am I even using sqlite?
only you can answer that, but you can see if it is installed, rpm -qa *sqlite* -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.org openSUSE Community Member facebook/ptilopteri Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet oftc
James, et al -- ...and then Andrei Borzenkov said... % On 30.10.2022 18:40, James Knott wrote: ... % > directions that take me to Auto-fill > Saved Passwords, but there is % > nothing saved there. % > % > Any ideas? % % In sqlite database 'Login Data' in profile directory. I have one of those: davidtg@gezebel:~/.chromium/profiles/davidtg/Default> file 'Login Data' Login Data: SQLite 3.x database, last written using SQLite version 3036000 Makes sense from here. HTH & HAND :-D -- David T-G See http://justpickone.org/davidtg/email/ See http://justpickone.org/davidtg/tofu.txt
On 2022-10-30 15:26, David T-G wrote:
% In sqlite database 'Login Data' in profile directory.
I have one of those:
davidtg@gezebel:~/.chromium/profiles/davidtg/Default> file 'Login Data' Login Data: SQLite 3.x database, last written using SQLite version 3036000
Makes sense from here.
I don't seem to have that, though sqlite is installed. I don't even have .chromium that I can see.
Op zondag 30 oktober 2022 20:45:47 CET schreef James Knott:
On 2022-10-30 15:26, David T-G wrote:
% In sqlite database 'Login Data' in profile directory.
I have one of those:
davidtg@gezebel:~/.chromium/profiles/davidtg/Default> file 'Login Data' Login Data: SQLite 3.x database, last written using SQLite version 3036000
Makes sense from here.
I don't seem to have that, though sqlite is installed. I don't even have .chromium that I can see.
Sigh, it's in ~.config/chromium -- Gertjan Lettink a.k.a. Knurpht openSUSE Board openSUSE Forums Team
James & Knurpht, et al -- ...and then Knurpht-openSUSE said... % Op zondag 30 oktober 2022 20:45:47 CET schreef James Knott: % > On 2022-10-30 15:26, David T-G wrote: % > % > > I have one of those: % > > % > > davidtg@gezebel:~/.chromium/profiles/davidtg/Default> file 'Login % > > Data' % > > Login Data: SQLite 3.x database, last written using SQLite version % > > 3036000 % > > % > > Makes sense from here. % > % > I don't seem to have that, though sqlite is installed. I don't even % > have .chromium that I can see. % % Sigh, it's in ~.config/chromium Oh! Hey, I do have a couple there as well: davidtg@gezebel:~> find .config/ .chromium/ -name 'Login Data' .config/google-chrome/Default/Login Data .config/chromium/Default/Login Data .config/chromium/System Profile/Login Data .chromium/profiles/65tt/Default/Login Data .chromium/profiles/cva5/Default/Login Data .chromium/profiles/gift/Default/Login Data .chromium/profiles/davidtg/Default/Login Data .chromium/profiles/davidtg/Guest Profile/Login Data .chromium/profiles/davidtg/System Profile/Login Data .chromium/profiles/props/Default/Login Data .chromium/profiles/la/Default/Login Data .chromium/profiles/15835wb/Default/Login Data .chromium/profiles/tgshared/Default/Login Data .chromium/profiles/ldshared/Default/Login Data .chromium/profiles/joe/Default/Login Data .chromium/profiles/joe/System Profile/Login Data .chromium/profiles/joe/Profile 1/Login Data .chromium/profiles/st/Default/Login Data .chromium/profiles/lsa/Default/Login Data I guess it depends on your setup. Good luck :-) HTH & HAND :-D -- David T-G See http://justpickone.org/davidtg/email/ See http://justpickone.org/davidtg/tofu.txt
On 2022-10-30 16:02, Knurpht-openSUSE wrote:
I don't seem to have that, though sqlite is installed. I don't even have .chromium that I can see.
Sigh, it's in ~.config/chromium
Once again, I don't have a profiles in ~/.config/chromium. There's lots of other stuff there, some 161 other items, but no profile.
Op zondag 30 oktober 2022 21:31:13 CET schreef James Knott:
On 2022-10-30 16:02, Knurpht-openSUSE wrote:
I don't seem to have that, though sqlite is installed. I don't even have .chromium that I can see.
Sigh, it's in ~.config/chromium
Once again, I don't have a profiles in ~/.config/chromium. There's lots of other stuff there, some 161 other items, but no profile.
knurpht@localhost:~/.config/chromium/Default> locate -i login | grep chromium /home/knurpht/.config/*chromium*/Default/Login Data /home/knurpht/.config/*chromium*/Default/Login Data For Account /home/knurpht/.config/*chromium*/Default/Login Data For Account-journal /home/knurpht/.config/*chromium*/Default/Login Data-journal -- Gertjan Lettink a.k.a. Knurpht openSUSE Board openSUSE Forums Team
On 2022-10-30 16:35, Knurpht-openSUSE wrote:
knurpht@localhost:~/.config/chromium/Default> locate -i login | grep chromium /home/knurpht/.config/*chromium*/Default/Login Data /home/knurpht/.config/*chromium*/Default/Login Data For Account /home/knurpht/.config/*chromium*/Default/Login Data For Account-journal /home/knurpht/.config/*chromium*/Default/Login Data-journal
I see several familiar sites in Login Data, but not the one I'm looking for, even though I searched with grep.
On Sun, 30 Oct 2022 16:57:03 -0400, James Knott <james.knott@jknott.net> wrote:
On 2022-10-30 16:35, Knurpht-openSUSE wrote:
knurpht@localhost:~/.config/chromium/Default> locate -i login | grep chromium /home/knurpht/.config/chromium/Default/Login Data /home/knurpht/.config/chromium/Default/Login Data For Account /home/knurpht/.config/chromium/Default/Login Data For Account-journal /home/knurpht/.config/chromium/Default/Login Data-journal
I see several familiar sites in Login Data, but not the one I'm looking for, even though I searched with grep.
Try: locate -i login | grep -i chrom Or (don't hold your breath): cd && nice find .??* -type f -exec file {} + |grep -i sqlite Find it somewhere. -- Robert Webb
On 2022-10-31 03:53, Robert Webb wrote:
On Sun, 30 Oct 2022 16:57:03 -0400, James Knott <james.knott@jknott.net> wrote:
On 2022-10-30 16:35, Knurpht-openSUSE wrote:
knurpht@localhost:~/.config/chromium/Default> locate -i login | grep chromium /home/knurpht/.config/chromium/Default/Login Data /home/knurpht/.config/chromium/Default/Login Data For Account /home/knurpht/.config/chromium/Default/Login Data For Account-journal /home/knurpht/.config/chromium/Default/Login Data-journal
I see several familiar sites in Login Data, but not the one I'm looking for, even though I searched with grep.
Try: locate -i login | grep -i chrom
Or (don't hold your breath): cd && nice find .??* -type f -exec file {} + |grep -i sqlite
Find it somewhere. Tune it to search only your home.
I get: /home/cer/.config/google-chrome/Default/Login Data /home/cer/.config/google-chrome/Default/Login Data 2-journal /home/cer/.config/google-chrome/Default/Login Data For Account /home/cer/.config/google-chrome/Default/Login Data For Account-journal /home/cer/.config/google-chrome/Default/Login Data-journal /home/cer/.config/google-chrome/Default/Local Storage/https_login.microfocus.com_0.localstorage /home/cer/.config/google-chrome/Default/Local Storage/https_login.microfocus.com_0.localstorage-journal -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 15.3 x86_64 at Telcontar)
On 2022-10-30 21:35, Knurpht-openSUSE wrote:
Op zondag 30 oktober 2022 21:31:13 CET schreef James Knott:
On 2022-10-30 16:02, Knurpht-openSUSE wrote:
Sigh, it's in ~.config/chromium
Interesting, I have that path even though I don't use Chromium. cer@Telcontar:~/.config> l chromium/ total 20 drwxr-xr-x 3 cer users 4096 Oct 8 15:00 ./ drwx------ 145 cer users 12288 Oct 29 14:00 ../ drwxr-xr-x 2 cer users 4096 Oct 8 15:00 NativeMessagingHosts/ cer@Telcontar:~/.config> tree -UD --si chromium/ chromium/ └── [4.1k Oct 8 15:00] NativeMessagingHosts └── [ 309 Oct 8 15:00] net.downloadhelper.coapp.json 1 directory, 1 file cer@Telcontar:~/.config>
Once again, I don't have a profiles in ~/.config/chromium. There's
lots of other stuff there, some 161 other items, but no profile.
knurpht@localhost:~/.config/chromium/Default> locate -i login | grep chromium /home/knurpht/.config/*chromium*/Default/Login Data /home/knurpht/.config/*chromium*/Default/Login Data For Account /home/knurpht/.config/*chromium*/Default/Login Data For Account-journal /home/knurpht/.config/*chromium*/Default/Login Data-journal
Right. "Default" is the profile. -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 15.3 x86_64 at Telcontar)
Am Sonntag, 30. Oktober 2022, 21:58:00 CET schrieb Carlos E. R.:
Interesting, I have that path even though I don't use Chromium.
I am not using chromium and the directory is not present on my SUSE Tumbleweed. I do have installed Google Chrome from their repository and by "zypper in SOME_rpm", and thus I have a directory "google-chrome" under ~/.config However, I really think that the passwords in question might be found in KDE's password manager Kwallet - or did I miss something? if not: Google Chrome has a settings section named "Automatisches Ausfüllen" on my German desktop, so that's where I would look... there should be something similar in Chromium, and in English. -- Best Regards - Mit freundlichen Grüßen, Markus Feilner, Feilner IT - 20 years of open services - https://nitter.net/mfeilner ------------------------- Digital sovereignty in three words: "Exit Strategy First!" Digitale Souveränität in Drei Worten. ------------------------- Digitale Souveränität, Nachhaltigkeit, Dokumentation Linux, Security, Strategy, Politics, Journalism, Networking. https://www.feilner-it.net, 93059 Regensburg Wöhrdstr. 10, +49 170 302 7092 (+Signal) PGP: 40A3C306F96133067C11CFD9A958A906268C9F0A http://www.feilner-it.net/files/MFpub.asc Xing: http://www.xing.com/profile/Markus_Feilner LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/markusfeilner @mfeilner: Matrix, Jabber, Skype, Twitter, Diaspora, ...
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