Hello Linux folkz, Could somebody tell me please if it possible to make Tekram DC315 SCSI Adapter work with Linux? Apparently there is a driver in 2.2.18 kernel for this adapter but no matter how I compiled it directly or as a module it didn't work. Could somebody share a positive experience with this adapter. Thanks. Alex -- MS Windows users should be covered under the Americans with Disabilities Act
On Tue, 13 Mar 2001, Alex Daniloff said:
Hello Linux folkz,
Could somebody tell me please if it possible to make Tekram DC315 SCSI Adapter work with Linux? Apparently there is a driver in 2.2.18 kernel for this adapter but no matter how I compiled it directly or as a module it didn't work. Could somebody share a positive experience with this adapter.
I use a Tekram 390 controller (68 pin ultra wide) which uses one of the NCR53c8xx family drivers. I suspect that the 315 would use one of the NCR drivers as well, but you'll have to take a look at the card to see what chip they are using and choose a driver accordingly. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- John Karns jkarns@csd.net "When taken internally, by either drinking the liquid or inhaling the vapors, methanol is extremely poisonous." --- "Alcohol," Microsoft(R) Encarta(R) 97 Encyclopedia. Aspartame (aka Nutrasweet), a common ingredient in dietetic foods, is 10% methanol - www.dorway.com
Warning long rant ahead about why I like yast1 better than yast2. Ok, I bought 7.1 instead of waiting for it to go on ftp.suse.com or the mirrors. I was already upset that I would have to pay $70 for the "professional version" instead of $30 for the "personal version" because the "personal edition" didn't have development tools. Back in my day (i.e. before version 7.1) you would pay $30 AND get what you now call the "professional version." $70 seems a bit steep for an operating system that is supposed to be free :) Anyway, I saw SuSE laid all those people off so I thought I would go ahead and support them anyway. I am always willing to support those in the trenches of the war against the evil that is microsoft. I have been using SuSE since version 5.3. The best part of SuSE has always been yast -- yast1 that is. When I tried yast2 it didn't allow me to configure my install as well as yast1 did. So that is why I put CD2 in instead of CD1. I was upset to learn that it booted to yast2 anyway. It was only later that I figured out that it booted to yast2 because I had the DVD in the DVD drive (the cd drive is the drive that boots.) Oh, and my boot floppy must be defective so that wasn't an option either. Anyway I decided to give yast2 a chance. Everything seemed reasonably ok (I was happy to see it allow me manually partition my hd and choose what packages I wanted -- that was the main reason why I hated yast2 before.) When it went to run lilo however it put lilo on the floppy instead of the hd and didn't bother to ask me if that was ok. Well other than the lilo thing everything was ok so I started to move into my new installation. I think windowmanagers should be simple and small -- that is why I wanted to get away from the default kde (although I will admit that kde gets better each time I run it and there may be a time in the future that I might consider switching.) Anyway I had gotten used to bowman because I had used it since suse 5.3 (well I used afterstep before it started to suck -- and bowman was exactly like classic afterstep.) I was shocked to see that bowman wasn't an option now. Why? You wanted to save 6k on the 7 cd distro? Oh well I guess fvwm1 is close enough. ALthough now I am worried that you are going to ko that one next. Maybe I should get used to twm so I will always be sure that the wm I am used to will be working on any system. I guess I could also go ahead and download my wm of choice but that is why I spent $70 for the cds. Anyway when I make my own kernel I usually put the test kernel on the floppy so if something goes wrong I can always boot back to the hd. Well I forgot that yast2 thought it was better for me to have lilo on the floppy. It isn't like yast2 asked me if this was ok (it did it because it detected my old version of suse, and an old dos partition on another hd -- I had the old vesion there as backup.) So of course I over wrote the boot floppy and I must have configured the new kernel wrong since it didn't boot (used the config file from my old distro and forgot that since I am now using reiserFS I should probably compile that into the kernel -- oops!) yast1 lets you boot an already installed kernel -- yast2 does not. I must have wasted two hours trying to get yast2 to do something yast1 does so easily until I figured out that if I don't leave the DVD in the DVD drive it eventually lets you use my beloved yast1. Why won't yast2 let you reboot an already installed system? Why if you are booting off the second CD isn't the system smart enough to figure out that you must be trying to boot yast1. And why do they act like installing with yast1 is like rocket science? Please oh please SuSE don't get rid of yast1. Please update it so you can still install the system with it. Based on 7.1's attitude toward yast1 it seems like yast1's days may be numbered. Those of us that aren't idiots but still do a lot of idiotic things (like I did) need yast1 in order to fix what we screwed up :) I guess it is ok to make the install idiot proof -- but please don't do it by pissing off your long time users. Thanks for taking the time to read my rant! I feel better now :) Matt. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - Buy the things you want at great prices. http://auctions.yahoo.com/
I agree. While YaST2 is prettier, and there are some newer tasks that only YaST2 can do, like ALSA sound setup, YaST1 is still more flexable and powerful, along with being easier to use, believe it or not. It's also faster. SuSE, KEEP IT! JLK On Wednesday 14 March 2001 22:46, you wrote:
Warning long rant ahead about why I like yast1 better than yast2.
Ok, I bought 7.1 instead of waiting for it to go on ftp.suse.com or the mirrors. I was already upset that I would have to pay $70 for the "professional version" instead of $30 for the "personal version" because the "personal edition" didn't have development tools. Back in my day (i.e. before version 7.1) you would pay $30 AND get what you now call the "professional version." $70 seems a bit steep for an operating system that is supposed to be free :) Anyway, I saw SuSE laid all those people off so I thought I would go ahead and support them anyway. I am always willing to support those in the trenches of the war against the evil that is microsoft.
I have been using SuSE since version 5.3. The best part of SuSE has always been yast -- yast1 that is. When I tried yast2 it didn't allow me to configure my install as well as yast1 did. So that is why I put CD2 in instead of CD1. I was upset to learn that it booted to yast2 anyway. It was only later that I figured out that it booted to yast2 because I had the DVD in the DVD drive (the cd drive is the drive that boots.) Oh, and my boot floppy must be defective so that wasn't an option either. Anyway I decided to give yast2 a chance. Everything seemed reasonably ok (I was happy to see it allow me manually partition my hd and choose what packages I wanted -- that was the main reason why I hated yast2 before.) When it went to run lilo however it put lilo on the floppy instead of the hd and didn't bother to ask me if that was ok.
Well other than the lilo thing everything was ok so I started to move into my new installation. I think windowmanagers should be simple and small -- that is why I wanted to get away from the default kde (although I will admit that kde gets better each time I run it and there may be a time in the future that I might consider switching.) Anyway I had gotten used to bowman because I had used it since suse 5.3 (well I used afterstep before it started to suck -- and bowman was exactly like classic afterstep.) I was shocked to see that bowman wasn't an option now. Why? You wanted to save 6k on the 7 cd distro? Oh well I guess fvwm1 is close enough. ALthough now I am worried that you are going to ko that one next. Maybe I should get used to twm so I will always be sure that the wm I am used to will be working on any system. I guess I could also go ahead and download my wm of choice but that is why I spent $70 for the cds.
Anyway when I make my own kernel I usually put the test kernel on the floppy so if something goes wrong I can always boot back to the hd. Well I forgot that yast2 thought it was better for me to have lilo on the floppy. It isn't like yast2 asked me if this was ok (it did it because it detected my old version of suse, and an old dos partition on another hd -- I had the old vesion there as backup.) So of course I over wrote the boot floppy and I must have configured the new kernel wrong since it didn't boot (used the config file from my old distro and forgot that since I am now using reiserFS I should probably compile that into the kernel -- oops!)
yast1 lets you boot an already installed kernel -- yast2 does not. I must have wasted two hours trying to get yast2 to do something yast1 does so easily until I figured out that if I don't leave the DVD in the DVD drive it eventually lets you use my beloved yast1. Why won't yast2 let you reboot an already installed system? Why if you are booting off the second CD isn't the system smart enough to figure out that you must be trying to boot yast1. And why do they act like installing with yast1 is like rocket science?
Please oh please SuSE don't get rid of yast1. Please update it so you can still install the system with it. Based on 7.1's attitude toward yast1 it seems like yast1's days may be numbered. Those of us that aren't idiots but still do a lot of idiotic things (like I did) need yast1 in order to fix what we screwed up :) I guess it is ok to make the install idiot proof -- but please don't do it by pissing off your long time users.
Thanks for taking the time to read my rant! I feel better now :)
Matt.
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On Thursday 15 March 2001 00:00, you wrote:
While YaST2 is prettier, and there are some newer tasks that only YaST2 can do, like ALSA sound setup, YaST1 is still more flexable and powerful, along with being easier to use, believe it or not. It's also faster. SuSE, KEEP IT!
I want to echo these thoughts. The worst part of my upgrade to SuSE 7.1 was using Yast2. The people at SuSE appear to be making the move to YaST 2, which is ok for new users but for people that have learned linux using SuSE ( started with 5.3) and YaST, the people at SuSE should keep YaST. Give the people a choice, it's that freedom to choose that makes Linux far better than a proprietary system that forces you to take certain options. joe
On Thursday 15 March 2001 00:00, you wrote:
While YaST2 is prettier, and there are some newer tasks that only YaST2 can do, like ALSA sound setup, YaST1 is still more flexable and powerful, along with being easier to use, believe it or not. It's also faster. SuSE, KEEP IT!
I want to echo these thoughts. The worst part of my upgrade to SuSE 7.1 was using Yast2. The people at SuSE appear to be making the move to YaST 2, which is ok for new users but for people that have learned linux using SuSE ( started with 5.3) and YaST, the people at SuSE should keep YaST. Give the people a choice, it's that freedom to choose that makes Linux far better
did you know ther is a text version of yast2 , try it from text mode. Interesting. I have found that the 7.1 yast2 version if far better then what was in the older versions. bu do like having the ability to use both. However if resoources ar tight I would suport yast2 as long as it can suport ALL that yast1 was able , and do thing that they may be going down that road in the future , in light of the fact that yas2 has a text version. so it would seem that they will incorperate all the yas1 stuff to a text/dual mode yast2. That would make sence in that you would have to suport only one version. Well worth the user learning to use yast2 in the long run to garentee a better version of our favorite distro , but dont loose the features in yast1 , move them to yast2. At 11:16 PM 3/14/2001 -0500, joe lerch wrote: than
a proprietary system that forces you to take certain options.
joe
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Matt and Jerry, On Thursday 15 March 2001 06:00, you wrote:
I agree. While YaST2 is prettier, and there are some newer tasks that only YaST2 can do, like ALSA sound setup, YaST1 is still more flexable and powerful, along with being easier to use, believe it or not. It's also faster. SuSE, KEEP IT! JLK <snip>
Please oh please SuSE don't get rid of yast1. Please update it so you can still install the system with it. Based on 7.1's attitude toward yast1 it seems like yast1's days may be numbered. Those of us that aren't idiots but still do a lot of idiotic things (like I did) need yast1 in order to fix what we screwed up :) I guess it is ok to make the install idiot proof -- but please don't do it by pissing off your long time users.
Thanks for taking the time to read my rant! I feel better now :)
It's still there!! Believe me. It is still there. At the first boot prompt type manual, and it will start linuxrc just like the old versions did. Then it gives you the option of selecting either yast1 or yast2. Choose yast1 and you are off an running. You will feel right at home. But Yast1 still doesn't have the sound configuration that yast2 does. Oh, and Yast2 can also be a text program to configure your equipment. Worked for me.
Matt.
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Matt Banta on Thursday, March 15 said: <snip>
So that is why I put CD2 in instead of CD1. I was upset to learn that it booted to yast2 anyway. It was only later that I figured out that it booted to yast2 because I had the DVD in the DVD drive (the cd drive is the drive that boots.) Oh, and my boot floppy must be defective so that wasn't an option either. Anyway I decided to give yast2 a chance.
</snip> Matt, I haven't received my copy of 7.1 yet but in previous versions you could enter 'manual' at the boot prompt ('boot:') to get to yast1. That's what I did with 7.0 anyway. It's the kind of feature that I'm sure SuSE would keep in. Jethro
1/ Dont have a dvd so can not commnet on that. 2/ I ranted and raved about the price increase over the pro/dumned down version , but did buy the pro version. To be honest , I still do not like the dual packaging policy and do agree with you about having all the dev tools on the same distro. I must say that THIS distro has come a LONG way , in that yast2 has matured a GRAET DEAL to where you can actualy use it instead of yast1. I still fire up yast1 sim[ly becouse I am bussy and do not want to spend the time to find it in yast2. But yast 2 right now blows the doors off in comparison to older versions. KED2 is realy looking nice. A bit slowere on my system , but I am not sure if its KDE2 or the ReasFileing system that I finaly tried to use. If you wnat a lighter one then install the XFCE rpm that is way faster and cleaner. But I have to say that I am realy getting to like KDE2 , al be iut is slower. This pionyt may become moot in the near future if I get my hands on a newer box. 3/ I have isntalled 7.1 on two boxes , one an old P166 where I had to tell yast2 what hardware it has and a more current amdk6 where yast2 nfound EVERYTHING. For some reeason the minimal install would not boot , where as the defoult with office booted fine. 4/ Through out all five installes that I did ( I blew my windows drive when the powersupply fan failed and rebooted while partion magic was moving my windows partion and rebooted and trashed the fat table . Yast 2 ALLWAYS posted a a screen where it informed you that it found another OS and was going to install lilo to a boot floppy , There was also an option to custom do lilo and put it to the hard drive if you wanted. I have allways dome the floppy then gone back into the system and re do it to the MBR . I realy like the new graphical boot selection , and have even stoped changing the system to boot with out the graphoical fornt end. Harkes back to the old dos days. Now I let it load xwindows and use a term window , but you can now do a contrl alt F# and back out of the gui forn end into standard term mode , then di it agien to cont_AltF1 and it will bring back up the gui. Real neet. 5/ I also REALY liked the gnucash rpm that actualy worked , anbd have wnated to try this for a long time , but did not due to all the horred storys about compiling it. Over all I do find that THIS particular version was well worth the money , especialy in light of the fact thatI have 5 boxes and would not think of doing that meny installs with out cds/dvds. what more would I ask for , a $30.00 cd/dev distro with NO support , and NO manuals , but with docs on the cd. no box , just a set of media that encompases the PRO version as far as packages. Want more then shell out the additional money for the the hard copy docs or tech suport.I usualy but one version of the pro version , but would but two sets of such a stripped down version , as I would not have to shuffle disk back and forth , but at 60-7- dollers I will shuffle them back and forth. Great job suse. At 08:46 PM 3/14/2001 -0800, Matt Banta wrote:
Warning long rant ahead about why I like yast1 better than yast2.
Ok, I bought 7.1 instead of waiting for it to go on ftp.suse.com or the mirrors. I was already upset that I would have to pay $70 for the "professional version" instead of $30 for the "personal version" because the "personal edition" didn't have development tools. Back in my day (i.e. before version 7.1) you would pay $30 AND get what you now call the "professional version." $70 seems a bit steep for an operating system that is supposed to be free :) Anyway, I saw SuSE laid all those people off so I thought I would go ahead and support them anyway. I am always willing to support those in the trenches of the war against the evil that is microsoft.
I have been using SuSE since version 5.3. The best part of SuSE has always been yast -- yast1 that is. When I tried yast2 it didn't allow me to configure my install as well as yast1 did. So that is why I put CD2 in instead of CD1. I was upset to learn that it booted to yast2 anyway. It was only later that I figured out that it booted to yast2 because I had the DVD in the DVD drive (the cd drive is the drive that boots.) Oh, and my boot floppy must be defective so that wasn't an option either. Anyway I decided to give yast2 a chance. Everything seemed reasonably ok (I was happy to see it allow me manually partition my hd and choose what packages I wanted -- that was the main reason why I hated yast2 before.) When it went to run lilo however it put lilo on the floppy instead of the hd and didn't bother to ask me if that was ok.
Well other than the lilo thing everything was ok so I started to move into my new installation. I think windowmanagers should be simple and small -- that is why I wanted to get away from the default kde (although I will admit that kde gets better each time I run it and there may be a time in the future that I might consider switching.) Anyway I had gotten used to bowman because I had used it since suse 5.3 (well I used afterstep before it started to suck -- and bowman was exactly like classic afterstep.) I was shocked to see that bowman wasn't an option now. Why? You wanted to save 6k on the 7 cd distro? Oh well I guess fvwm1 is close enough. ALthough now I am worried that you are going to ko that one next. Maybe I should get used to twm so I will always be sure that the wm I am used to will be working on any system. I guess I could also go ahead and download my wm of choice but that is why I spent $70 for the cds.
Anyway when I make my own kernel I usually put the test kernel on the floppy so if something goes wrong I can always boot back to the hd. Well I forgot that yast2 thought it was better for me to have lilo on the floppy. It isn't like yast2 asked me if this was ok (it did it because it detected my old version of suse, and an old dos partition on another hd -- I had the old vesion there as backup.) So of course I over wrote the boot floppy and I must have configured the new kernel wrong since it didn't boot (used the config file from my old distro and forgot that since I am now using reiserFS I should probably compile that into the kernel -- oops!)
yast1 lets you boot an already installed kernel -- yast2 does not. I must have wasted two hours trying to get yast2 to do something yast1 does so easily until I figured out that if I don't leave the DVD in the DVD drive it eventually lets you use my beloved yast1. Why won't yast2 let you reboot an already installed system? Why if you are booting off the second CD isn't the system smart enough to figure out that you must be trying to boot yast1. And why do they act like installing with yast1 is like rocket science?
Please oh please SuSE don't get rid of yast1. Please update it so you can still install the system with it. Based on 7.1's attitude toward yast1 it seems like yast1's days may be numbered. Those of us that aren't idiots but still do a lot of idiotic things (like I did) need yast1 in order to fix what we screwed up :) I guess it is ok to make the install idiot proof -- but please don't do it by pissing off your long time users.
Thanks for taking the time to read my rant! I feel better now :)
Matt.
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At 19:51 13.3.01, you wrote:
Hello Linux folkz, Could somebody tell me please if it possible to make Tekram DC315 SCSI Adapter work with Linux?
yes, sure it works
Apparently there is a driver in 2.2.18 kernel for this adapter but no matter how I compiled it directly or as a module it didn't work. Could somebody share a positive experience with this adapter. Thanks. Alex
I use it under 2.4.2-ac10, and compiled in directly, not as a module, works perfectly. -- Leif Mathis
Alex Daniloff wrote:
Hello Linux folkz, Could somebody tell me please if it possible to make Tekram DC315 SCSI Adapter work with Linux? Apparently there is a driver in 2.2.18 kernel for this adapter but no matter how I compiled it directly or as a module it didn't work. Could somebody share a positive experience with this adapter. Thanks. Alex
Positiv. I used a DC315U, at least with SuSE 6.4, stock kernel. I just had to "modprobe dc395x_trm" and that was it. Have a look into your BIOS as well to set the IRQ / save an IRQ for the card. Juergen
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