Warning long rant ahead about why I like yast1 better than yast2. Ok, I bought 7.1 instead of waiting for it to go on ftp.suse.com or the mirrors. I was already upset that I would have to pay $70 for the "professional version" instead of $30 for the "personal version" because the "personal edition" didn't have development tools. Back in my day (i.e. before version 7.1) you would pay $30 AND get what you now call the "professional version." $70 seems a bit steep for an operating system that is supposed to be free :) Anyway, I saw SuSE laid all those people off so I thought I would go ahead and support them anyway. I am always willing to support those in the trenches of the war against the evil that is microsoft. I have been using SuSE since version 5.3. The best part of SuSE has always been yast -- yast1 that is. When I tried yast2 it didn't allow me to configure my install as well as yast1 did. So that is why I put CD2 in instead of CD1. I was upset to learn that it booted to yast2 anyway. It was only later that I figured out that it booted to yast2 because I had the DVD in the DVD drive (the cd drive is the drive that boots.) Oh, and my boot floppy must be defective so that wasn't an option either. Anyway I decided to give yast2 a chance. Everything seemed reasonably ok (I was happy to see it allow me manually partition my hd and choose what packages I wanted -- that was the main reason why I hated yast2 before.) When it went to run lilo however it put lilo on the floppy instead of the hd and didn't bother to ask me if that was ok. Well other than the lilo thing everything was ok so I started to move into my new installation. I think windowmanagers should be simple and small -- that is why I wanted to get away from the default kde (although I will admit that kde gets better each time I run it and there may be a time in the future that I might consider switching.) Anyway I had gotten used to bowman because I had used it since suse 5.3 (well I used afterstep before it started to suck -- and bowman was exactly like classic afterstep.) I was shocked to see that bowman wasn't an option now. Why? You wanted to save 6k on the 7 cd distro? Oh well I guess fvwm1 is close enough. ALthough now I am worried that you are going to ko that one next. Maybe I should get used to twm so I will always be sure that the wm I am used to will be working on any system. I guess I could also go ahead and download my wm of choice but that is why I spent $70 for the cds. Anyway when I make my own kernel I usually put the test kernel on the floppy so if something goes wrong I can always boot back to the hd. Well I forgot that yast2 thought it was better for me to have lilo on the floppy. It isn't like yast2 asked me if this was ok (it did it because it detected my old version of suse, and an old dos partition on another hd -- I had the old vesion there as backup.) So of course I over wrote the boot floppy and I must have configured the new kernel wrong since it didn't boot (used the config file from my old distro and forgot that since I am now using reiserFS I should probably compile that into the kernel -- oops!) yast1 lets you boot an already installed kernel -- yast2 does not. I must have wasted two hours trying to get yast2 to do something yast1 does so easily until I figured out that if I don't leave the DVD in the DVD drive it eventually lets you use my beloved yast1. Why won't yast2 let you reboot an already installed system? Why if you are booting off the second CD isn't the system smart enough to figure out that you must be trying to boot yast1. And why do they act like installing with yast1 is like rocket science? Please oh please SuSE don't get rid of yast1. Please update it so you can still install the system with it. Based on 7.1's attitude toward yast1 it seems like yast1's days may be numbered. Those of us that aren't idiots but still do a lot of idiotic things (like I did) need yast1 in order to fix what we screwed up :) I guess it is ok to make the install idiot proof -- but please don't do it by pissing off your long time users. Thanks for taking the time to read my rant! I feel better now :) Matt. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - Buy the things you want at great prices. http://auctions.yahoo.com/