On 07/26/2018 02:00 PM, Knurpht-openSUSE wrote:

Op donderdag 26 juli 2018 22:58:02 CEST schreef don fisher:

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There are a few firmware files I need to down load to get my wireless running. I thought in Firefox, if you clicked on a file, there was a way to select downloading. Now all I get is a dump in hexedit. Is there something to set up to restore this basic capability?

Thanks, Don Right click, Save as

I am trying to get a response like that received when I click on rpm files etc. In Firefox Preferences/general/downloads there is a list of files under "Content Type" that ask if you wish to download them or not. I would like to add to that list, but see no mechanism. Don -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

* don fisher [07-26-18 17:22]:

On 07/26/2018 02:00 PM, Knurpht-openSUSE wrote:

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Op donderdag 26 juli 2018 22:58:02 CEST schreef don fisher:

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There are a few firmware files I need to down load to get my wireless running. I thought in Firefox, if you clicked on a file, there was a way to select downloading. Now all I get is a dump in hexedit. Is there something to set up to restore this basic capability?

Thanks, Don Right click, Save as

I am trying to get a response like that received when I click on rpm files etc. In Firefox Preferences/general/downloads there is a list of files under "Content Type" that ask if you wish to download them or not. I would like to add to that list, but see no mechanism.

open the text file in your browser and <ctrl><a> to select all, then <ctrl><c> to copy the selection to your clip-board. then open a text editor and paste the copied selection into the editor. save the file with the name you wish. honestly, this is verrrry basic stuffffff. ever heard of google, good for finding out how to do many things. although I guess it is easier just to ask for someone else to do it for you and of course, that means you will remember how the next time, or not. -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.org openSUSE Community Member facebook/ptilopteri Registered Linux User #207535 @ http://linuxcounter.net Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet freenode -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

On 07/26/2018 02:44 PM, David T-G wrote:

paka, et al --

...and then Patrick Shanahan said... % % * don fisher [07-26-18 17:22]: % > I am trying to get a response like that received when I click on rpm files % > etc. In Firefox Preferences/general/downloads there is a list of files under % > "Content Type" that ask if you wish to download them or not. I would like to % > add to that list, but see no mechanism. % % open the text file in your browser and <ctrl><a> to select all, then % <ctrl><c> to copy the selection to your clip-board. then open a text [snip]

Now, now... To be fair, he's already said that he gets the raw content as a hex dump (and when did pasting the ASCII of a hex dump get you a properly formatted binary file, anyway?!?), but that isn't what he asked. I think that Don in fact did a good job of following up with a description of the behavior he wants (browser prompt to save the file); he doesn't deserve to be castigated for failing to manually save a bunch of garbage that won't work for him.

Don, I know what you mean and believe that it oughta be available but don't have the browser config chops to tell you how; sorry & good luck. I would use Right Click -> Save As or, better yet, just wget it.

HANN

Thanks. I will try it with wget. I thought the old version of Firefox worked this way. I hate it when people "fix" things. Don -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

On 2018-07-30 04:42, Basil Chupin wrote:

On 27/07/18 07:20, don fisher wrote:

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On 07/26/2018 02:00 PM, Knurpht-openSUSE wrote:

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Op donderdag 26 juli 2018 22:58:02 CEST schreef don fisher:

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There are a few firmware files I need to down load to get my wireless running. I thought in Firefox, if you clicked on a file, there was a way to select downloading. Now all I get is a dump in hexedit. Is there something to set up to restore this basic capability?

Thanks, Don Right click, Save as

I am trying to get a response like that received when I click on rpm files etc. In Firefox Preferences/general/downloads there is a list of files under "Content Type" that ask if you wish to download them or not. I would like to add to that list, but see no mechanism.

Don

This has nothing to do with *Downloading* files. The "Content Type" is for what to do when a file of the type mentioned in the list is selected by LEFT-clicking on it. For example, if you LEFT-click on a *.pdf file you can actually read it ONLINE using, say, Okular.

However, if you want to *download* a file -- even that *.pdf file -- then RIGHT-click on the file and from the drop-down menu select to *SAVE* the file -- and you should have already configured Firefox to save the/all file/s into your /home/Downloads/ directory.

Yes. I have tried to say that some days ago, but apparently it did not register. -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 42.3 x86_64 "Malachite" at Telcontar)

Op zaterdag 28 juli 2018 00:24:49 CEST schreef don fisher:

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On 07/26/2018 03:58 PM, don fisher wrote:

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There are a few firmware files I need to down load to get my wireless running. I thought in Firefox, if you clicked on a file, there was a way to select downloading. Now all I get is a dump in hexedit. Is there something to set up to restore this basic capability?

Thanks, Don

I think you are looking for:

Applications panel - Set how Firefox handles different types of files https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/applications-panel-set-how-firefox-ha ndles-files That link was to Firefox 55 and below. I followed the link to later versions, and it says "When you click on a link for a type of file that doesn't have a set content type and download action, Firefox will ask you how to handle the file". But for .bin files I get a hexdump, and .txt files a display in the window. I cannot get it to ask how to handle

On 07/26/2018 10:45 PM, David C. Rankin wrote: the file. I must have trouble reading:-)

Don Link's on the same page: https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/cant-download-or-save-files#w_change-fi...

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On 07/27/2018 05:24 PM, don fisher wrote:

That link was to Firefox 55 and below. I followed the link to later versions, and it says "When you click on a link for a type of file that doesn't have a set content type and download action, Firefox will ask you how to handle the file". But for .bin files I get a hexdump, and .txt files a display in the window. I cannot get it to ask how to handle the file. I must have trouble reading:-)

Don

I don't think it is a reading problem. Mozilla has dumbed-down the settings and config interface significantly over the past few version jumps to the point something that should be stupid-simple to configure is a frustrating PITA (like trying to set the clock font size in the KDE panel) -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

Le 28/07/2018 à 05:58, Carlos E. R. a écrit :

This message of yours displays a huge "autocrypt" header in Thunderbird using almost all of the available vertical screen space, leaving just a

no problem here reading any message on thunderbird (including this one) jdd -- http://dodin.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

On 07/27/2018 07:01 PM, David C. Rankin wrote:

On 07/27/2018 05:24 PM, don fisher wrote:

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That link was to Firefox 55 and below. I followed the link to later versions, and it says "When you click on a link for a type of file that doesn't have a set content type and download action, Firefox will ask you how to handle the file". But for .bin files I get a hexdump, and .txt files a display in the window. I cannot get it to ask how to handle the file. I must have trouble reading:-)

Don

I don't think it is a reading problem. Mozilla has dumbed-down the settings and config interface significantly over the past few version jumps to the point something that should be stupid-simple to configure is a frustrating PITA (like trying to set the clock font size in the KDE panel)

Is there a way to load an old version of Firefox? I guess I am simple, but I never felt the need for more than Netscape:-) Is there a way to get to older distribution trees, something like 3.1. I found a 42.2 dist with a Firefox 49.0.2-37. Do you see any problem installing this? Don -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

On 07/28/2018 08:08 PM, don fisher wrote:

Is there a way to load an old version of Firefox? I guess I am simple, but I never felt the need for more than Netscape:-) Is there a way to get to older distribution trees, something like 3.1. I found a 42.2 dist with a Firefox 49.0.2-37. Do you see any problem installing this?

Don

There is no problem doing it, you can download any version you want straight from mozilla, e.g. http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/firefox/releases/45.9.0esr/ Just download the .bz2 file, change to the /opt directory, and as root just: # tar -xjf /path/to/firefox-52.9.0esr.tar.bz2 (you can do this without removing your current firefox) Then exit root, and run firefox from an xterm the first time to make sure you don't have any missing deps (I don't think you will, but just to be safe) $ /opt/firefox/firefox (you may have several messages dumped back to the terminal, but if it launches, you are fine) You can create a custom `.desktop` file for it in your ~/.local/share/applications folder if you like. HOWEVER, that said, there are security concerns with using an older firefox. As long as you are not using it for shopping/banking/etc... you won't expose yourself to critical issues, but you know the risks. That said, there is no reason the current firefox can't be configured to do just what you want with a .bin file. The problems is two-fold. First it is how the web-server reports the type of file it is to firefox. Second it is what firefox is doing with the type reported. You want the .bin treated as any binary file, e.g. like the tar.bz2 file you downloaded OR you want to set the behavior for "unknown" types to download. It has been a while, but I the opposite problem with C files not being displayed as text, but being prompted to download them. (it's been a number of years...), but that was the same issue having to tell Firefox to display as plain-text instead of downloading. There is no reason the current version of firefox can't be configured to handle any type any way you like -- the problem is How TF to do it? I've been picking through about:config and one setting you might try is: browser.helperApps.alwaysAsk.force And you may get some ideas from https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1012615 -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

On 2018-07-29 05:02, don fisher wrote:

On 07/28/2018 07:20 PM, David C. Rankin wrote:

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On 07/28/2018 08:08 PM, don fisher wrote:

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Is there a way to load an old version of Firefox? I guess I am simple, but I

Thanks. I only need one browser. My problem is to assure that my bookmarks etc. end up in the new version. I will let you know how it works out.

Don't. Use always the current (new version) browser, and exceptionally use the old version to do the file download only. -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 42.3 x86_64 "Malachite" at Telcontar)

On 2018-07-29 14:38, Anton Aylward wrote:

On 29/07/18 07:33 AM, Carlos E. R. wrote:

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Don't.

Use always the current (new version) browser, and exceptionally use the old version to do the file download only.

I have been faced with that situation for some located RPMs and my approach was to locate them with the browser but download them using FTP or, more likely, WGET.

Sure. Me too.

The latter has the advantage of easier restart if interrupted :-) Better debugging, more control over retries, authentication, logging, better visibility as to what is going on. GUIS (aka browsers aka firefox) hide too much, hide the configuration and operation, and as this thread is pointing out, make changes to configurations baseline that are not apparent without investigation of the release changelog, and ore. This is why so many of us favour CLI for many operations.

Yes, the GUI has its place and I wouldn't be without it for reading mail (a visual summary is better than the step-and-repeat one at a time of old terminal based mailx or the hell I go though with telephone voicemail!) or for the 99.8% case of web browsing.

But here we have a fine instance of the CLI being not merely a convenience but pretty much a necessity.

Yep. Reminds me: gFTP has disappeared on 15.0 :-( -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 42.3 x86_64 "Malachite" at Telcontar)

On 2018-07-29 14:52, jdd@dodin.org wrote:

Le 29/07/2018 à 14:51, Carlos E. R. a écrit :

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Reminds me: gFTP has disappeared on 15.0 :-(

dunno, but dolphin makes a good job

Too heavy. There are other browsers with ftp capability (including mc), but gFTP is specially powerful. -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 42.3 x86_64 "Malachite" at Telcontar)

On 2018-07-29 16:31, Patrick Shanahan wrote:

* Carlos E. R. [07-29-18 10:25]:

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On 2018-07-29 14:52, jdd@dodin.org wrote:

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Le 29/07/2018 à 14:51, Carlos E. R. a écrit :

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Reminds me: gFTP has disappeared on 15.0 :-(

dunno, but dolphin makes a good job

Too heavy.

There are other browsers with ftp capability (including mc), but gFTP is specially powerful.

then you should look at lftp. vary powerful and scriptable and runs from the cl.

gFTP is a gui. -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 42.3 x86_64 "Malachite" at Telcontar)

Le 29/07/2018 à 16:25, Carlos E. R. a écrit :

There are other browsers with ftp capability (including mc), but gFTP is specially powerful.

I used it time ago. Now I use dolphin or filezilla jdd -- http://dodin.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

On 2018-07-29 17:34, Anton Aylward wrote:

On 29/07/18 10:25 AM, Carlos E. R. wrote:

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On 2018-07-29 14:52, jdd@dodin.org wrote:

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Le 29/07/2018 à 14:51, Carlos E. R. a écrit :

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Reminds me: gFTP has disappeared on 15.0 :-(

dunno, but dolphin makes a good job

Too heavy.

There are other browsers with ftp capability (including mc), but gFTP is specially powerful.

If it comes to that, there are FUSE capabilities such as curlftpfs, which lets you mount a FTP site using cURL and FUSE. Once the site looks like a mounted FS you can just use any one of the number of regular file browsers available for Linux.

And can you use that against download.opensuse.org? -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 42.3 x86_64 "Malachite" at Telcontar)

* David C. Rankin [07-29-18 13:23]:

On 07/29/2018 07:52 AM, jdd@dodin.org wrote:

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Le 29/07/2018 à 14:51, Carlos E. R. a écrit :

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Reminds me: gFTP has disappeared on 15.0 :-(

dunno, but dolphin makes a good job

gFTP did it a lot better... gFTP, a small tools, doing a single job and doing it right...

flipper, on the otherhand, has been a ham-fisted ego trip for the maintainer and a pipe-dream that it could provide the functionality of konqueror ever since d3lphin/dolphin hit the repos in 2006/7. It has always been, and continues to, be a dumbed-down version of what konqueror was (and still is in kde3).

http://paste.opensuse.org/3640165 konqueror

There is no reason gFTP shouldn't be packaged. It is a small, clean and well written graphical ftp/sftp (ftp over ssh) package that handles public key/private key authentication. Why would it not be packaged for 15? It's not a space issue, it's tiny. It's in Main on 42.3 -- who made the decision to drop this package from 15? That was a bad call, see:

http://paste.opensuse.org/98540515 gFTP

geehsz, if you are not going to bother to look for it, why gripe about other people's decisions. gftp IS available: https://software.opensuse.org//download.html?project=GNOME%3AApps&package=gftp https://download.opensuse.org/repositories/GNOME:/Apps/openSUSE_Leap_15.0/x8... so really it was a bad call to call it a bad call! -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.org openSUSE Community Member facebook/ptilopteri Registered Linux User #207535 @ http://linuxcounter.net Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet freenode -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

* Carlos E. R. [07-29-18 13:50]:

On 2018-07-29 19:35, Patrick Shanahan wrote:

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* David C. Rankin [07-29-18 13:23]:

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On 07/29/2018 07:52 AM, jdd@dodin.org wrote:

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Le 29/07/2018 à 14:51, Carlos E. R. a écrit :

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Reminds me: gFTP has disappeared on 15.0 :-(

dunno, but dolphin makes a good job

gFTP did it a lot better... gFTP, a small tools, doing a single job and doing it right...

flipper, on the otherhand, has been a ham-fisted ego trip for the maintainer and a pipe-dream that it could provide the functionality of konqueror ever since d3lphin/dolphin hit the repos in 2006/7. It has always been, and continues to, be a dumbed-down version of what konqueror was (and still is in kde3).

http://paste.opensuse.org/3640165 konqueror

There is no reason gFTP shouldn't be packaged. It is a small, clean and well written graphical ftp/sftp (ftp over ssh) package that handles public key/private key authentication. Why would it not be packaged for 15? It's not a space issue, it's tiny. It's in Main on 42.3 -- who made the decision to drop this package from 15? That was a bad call, see:

http://paste.opensuse.org/98540515 gFTP

geehsz, if you are not going to bother to look for it, why gripe about other people's decisions. gftp IS available: https://software.opensuse.org//download.html?project=GNOME%3AApps&package=gftp https://download.opensuse.org/repositories/GNOME:/Apps/openSUSE_Leap_15.0/x8...

so really it was a bad call to call it a bad call!

Doesn't count: it is "experimental" repo.

so you don't want it improved and don't want to help improve it?

(the search page gives now a 503 error, by the way)

you have a local problem or a local mirror problem. no #503 here. -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.org openSUSE Community Member facebook/ptilopteri Registered Linux User #207535 @ http://linuxcounter.net Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet freenode -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

On 07/29/2018 01:50 PM, Carlos E. R. wrote:

It depends on the instant you try. Other person reported a different error, a memory error on the server. Then it worked here and continues working.

The powers that be could simply add gftp to 15. The .srpm from 42.3 builds without issue on 15, e.g. $ rpmbuild --rebuild gftp-2.0.19-31.3.src.rpm (note, you will need openssl-devel installed as well as common-translations for the build) and $ l1 ~/rpmbuild/RPMS/x86_64/gftp* /home/david/rpmbuild/RPMS/x86_64/gftp-2.0.19-31.3.x86_64.rpm /home/david/rpmbuild/RPMS/x86_64/gftp-common-2.0.19-31.3.x86_64.rpm /home/david/rpmbuild/RPMS/x86_64/gftp-text-2.0.19-31.3.x86_64.rpm finally $ zi ~/rpmbuild/RPMS/x86_64/gftp* (edit ~/.fluxbox/menu, add "[exec] (gftp) {gftp}") Works great! -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.

On 29/07/18 19:21, David C. Rankin wrote:

On 07/29/2018 07:52 AM, jdd@dodin.org wrote:

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dunno, but dolphin makes a good job

gFTP did it a lot better... gFTP, a small tools, doing a single job and doing it right...

flipper, on the otherhand, has been a ham-fisted ego trip for the maintainer and a pipe-dream that it could provide the functionality of konqueror ever since d3lphin/dolphin hit the repos in 2006/7. It has always been, and continues to, be a dumbed-down version of what konqueror was (and still is in kde3).

Utter, unadulterated horsecack. There is no single overarching maintainer of Dolphin since many years ago. Whose pipe-dream are you talking about? The original developer's? Because it's certainly never been the intention that Dolphin should replicate the functionality of Konqueror. It was designed precisely for the opposite reason of streamlining and focussing on the file management role within Konqueror, without the overhead of all the heavy web browser elements. There were other efforts, e.g. ReKonq, to do a similar thing for the web browsing component. It might be a more valid opinion to say that Dolphin doesn't provide every element of the file management functionality that you personally use in Konqueror. But Konqueror has continued being available and included in KDE Applications all these years. And if you're specifically referring to Konqueror 3.x, then you obviously have been continuing to use that to the present date as well along with the rest of KDE3. Would it not be rather the responsibility of the Konqueror developers working on the 4.x version to have ported the same functionality from 3.x, as opposed to being the fault of an apparent 'ego trip' of a developer of an alternative application? Please try and avoid casting spurious aspersions. Your response is less flipper and more flippant. In another post, you've just written 'to each his own, I guess'. I'd stick with that notion. And just to throw in my two cents to the OP, I previously used FireFTP within Firefox but sadly since the changes in FF Quantum it is no longer developed, so I switched to Filezilla. For the moment, that's displaying some of the same symptoms I used to see in gFTP: slow-downs, hang-ups. Maybe there's a setting somewhere that needs tweaking. FireFTP just got it right and performed solidly. gumb -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

On 07/29/2018 05:38 AM, Anton Aylward wrote:

On 29/07/18 07:33 AM, Carlos E. R. wrote:

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Don't.

Use always the current (new version) browser, and exceptionally use the old version to do the file download only.

I have been faced with that situation for some located RPMs and my approach was to locate them with the browser but download them using FTP or, more likely, WGET. The latter has the advantage of easier restart if interrupted :-) Better debugging, more control over retries, authentication, logging, better visibility as to what is going on. GUIS (aka browsers aka firefox) hide too much, hide the configuration and operation, and as this thread is pointing out, make changes to configurations baseline that are not apparent without investigation of the release changelog, and ore. This is why so many of us favour CLI for many operations.

Yes, the GUI has its place and I wouldn't be without it for reading mail (a visual summary is better than the step-and-repeat one at a time of old terminal based mailx or the hell I go though with telephone voicemail!) or for the 99.8% case of web browsing.

But here we have a fine instance of the CLI being not merely a convenience but pretty much a necessity.

As suggested, I used wget to download the files I needed to get my wifi network running on my new Alienware 13 R3 laptop. I also found a link on the web for the Atheros Killer E2500 Gigabit Ethernet Controller which I works, but I have not taken time to determine why. The really strange, to me, commands are: sudo modprobe alx echo 1969 e0b1 | sudo tee /sys/bus/pci/drivers/alx/new_id Other posts indicate that the opensuse kernel is just not up to date. One problem at a time:-) Now for Firefox. Thanks for the inputs. Don -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

On 29/07/18 09:29 AM, James Knott wrote:

On 07/28/2018 11:02 PM, don fisher wrote:

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Thanks. I only need one browser. My problem is to assure that my bookmarks etc. end up in the new version. I will let you know how it works out.

You can configure Firefox to sync with Firefox on other computers, so it shouldn't be too hard to keep everything in sync across versions.

Yes, but I think you should give a clue to at least one of the methods of doing this :-) -- A: Yes. > Q: Are you sure? >> A: Because it reverses the logical flow of conversation. >>> Q: Why is top posting frowned upon? -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

On 07/29/2018 09:35 AM, Anton Aylward wrote:

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You can configure Firefox to sync with Firefox on other computers, so it shouldn't be too hard to keep everything in sync across versions. Yes, but I think you should give a clue to at least one of the methods of doing this :-)

Click on 3 horizontal bars at top right > Preferences > Firefox Account -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

don fisher composed on 2018-08-22 17:50 (UTC-0700):

I could not get older versions to work. Firefox kept updating itself to a newer version. Maybe I will try again another time.

1-download firefox-esr 52 2-disconnect network 3-install Firefox 4-disable automatic updates in prefs or about:config 5-reconnect network 6-use FF normally Alternatively: 1-create new or restore old FF profile 2-create profile file user.js containing: user_pref("app.update.auto", false); user_pref("app.update.enabled", false); 3-use FF normally With newer firefox versions, disabling automatic updates is trickier: https://www.ghacks.net/2018/07/28/mozilla-makes-it-more-difficult-to-block-f... -- "Wisdom is supreme; therefore get wisdom. Whatever else you get, get wisdom." Proverbs 4:7 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org