RE: [SLE] Registering software - Any benefits?
-----Original Message----- From: PL O'Smith [mailto:penguin0601@earthlink.net] Sent: Friday, January 24, 2003 1:43 PM
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The registration number serves more purposes than just getting the buyer support from SuSE, so by all means, register it after you get up and running with your new SuSE setup!
And those valuable purposes would be... ? Name two. /kevin
* On Friday 24 January 2003 02:52 pm, KMcLauchlan@chrysalis-its.com scribed these words:
-----Original Message----- From: PL O'Smith [mailto:penguin0601@earthlink.net] Sent: Friday, January 24, 2003 1:43 PM
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The registration number serves more purposes than just getting the buyer support from SuSE, so by all means, register it after you get up and running with your new SuSE setup!
And those valuable purposes would be... ?
Name two.
/kevin
-------------------------- Well, Kev, let's see. SuSE guys correct me if I am wrong. One would be for marketing purposes, so that SuSE would have an accurate count of users, to show SuSE those people who are supporting them and I have seen added support given because of their knowledge of my support. Ooops, sorry that's more than two, got carried away, but you get the idea. :o) Patrick --- KMail v1.4.3 --- SuSE Linux Pro v8.1 --- Registered Linux User #225206 On any other day, that might seem strange...
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The registration number serves more purposes than just getting the buyer support from SuSE, so by all means, register it after you get up and running with your new SuSE setup!
As mentioned, registration only buys you "installation" support for a brief period of time and only for the current release regardless of when you purchased it... Which makes sense but should be noted on the outside of the box. Be careful when buying off store shelves, I still see 8.0 at Best Buy and other stores. Support only applies to 8.1. I hope SuSE knows we purchased their software I saw the debit on the stmt :-) But otherwise, from a customer standpoint, registration doesn't change anything. We donate our old versions of Slackware, SuSE, etc., to http://www.freelinuxcd.org/new/index.php and I suspect there are a lot of users running SuSE that aren't in their registration database. This applies to Linux Professional 8.1 -- __________________________ DJ mailto: linux_programmer@hotmail.com
On Friday 24 January 2003 16:57, DJ wrote:
We donate our old versions of Slackware, SuSE, etc., to http://www.freelinuxcd.org/new/index.php and I suspect there are a lot of users running SuSE that aren't in their registration database.
This applies to Linux Professional 8.1
Hm. I didn't think anybody'd have any use for 'em. I still have my old boxes of 7.2, 7.3, and 8.0. What would be a good way to find out if anybody wanted them in the Ottawa, Ontario, Canada area? My local Linux User Group is a fine bunch, but they are either people who like to stay on the bleeding edge, or else crusty old sorts who stick with a kernel until it grows barnacles. Any of them who wanted newer would either buy newest or download and roll their own. The people who would benefit from recent-but-not-new boxed sets are also people who haven't found their way onto the OCLUG list, yet. Suggestions? I don't want to get into packing and shipping, but if somebody actually wants them in my area, I'll be glad to hop in my truck and deliver -- let's say, no further than a two-hour drive (so, I'll go as far as Montreal or Kingston, but Buffalo or Timiskiming are out of the question :-). It's either throw them away when the wife decides they've been collecting dust for too long, or give 'em to somebody who actually wants 'em. Who might that be? /kevin
If you have a high school in your area, you might contact the science teacher, or the math teacher, or maybe they really have a computer teacher--not one that merely teaches Word for Windows--and donate your old versions there. I should think that versions older than about three dot numbers might not be welcome. I.E. 7.1 might be OK, but not older. That's just my guess. --doug, wa2say At 23:41 01/24/2003 -0500, Kevin McLauchlan wrote:
On Friday 24 January 2003 16:57, DJ wrote:
We donate our old versions of Slackware, SuSE, etc., to http://www.freelinuxcd.org/new/index.php and I suspect there are a lot of users running SuSE that aren't in their registration database.
This applies to Linux Professional 8.1
Hm. I didn't think anybody'd have any use for 'em.
I still have my old boxes of 7.2, 7.3, and 8.0.
What would be a good way to find out if anybody wanted them in the Ottawa, Ontario, Canada area?
My local Linux User Group is a fine bunch, but they are either people who like to stay on the bleeding edge, or else crusty old sorts who stick with a kernel until it grows barnacles. Any of them who wanted newer would either buy newest or download and roll their own. The people who would benefit from recent-but-not-new boxed sets are also people who haven't found their way onto the OCLUG list, yet.
Suggestions? I don't want to get into packing and shipping, but if somebody actually wants them in my area, I'll be glad to hop in my truck and deliver -- let's say, no further than a two-hour drive (so, I'll go as far as Montreal or Kingston, but Buffalo or Timiskiming are out of the question :-).
It's either throw them away when the wife decides they've been collecting dust for too long, or give 'em to somebody who actually wants 'em. Who might that be?
/kevin
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On Fri, 24 Jan 2003 23:53:53 -0500
Doug McGarrett
If you have a high school in your area, you might contact the science teacher, or the math teacher, or maybe they really have a computer teacher--not one that merely teaches Word for Windows--and donate your old versions there. I should think that versions older than about three dot numbers might not be welcome. I.E. 7.1 might be OK, but not older. That's just my guess.
I remember awhile back, someone from Africa was asking for donated old distributions. He said the price of a new boxed set was more than some people there earn in a month, and downloading the free distros was out of the question because the best connections they can get are phone lines. Hey maybe that would be a good "charity to start". Collect old boxed sets, and economically ship them over on a boat in containers. Maybe Bill Gates would donate some of his "Charity" money to the cause. :-) -- use Perl; #powerful programmable prestidigitation
On Saturday 25 January 2003 12:52, zentara wrote:
On Fri, 24 Jan 2003 23:53:53 -0500
Doug McGarrett
wrote: If you have a high school in your area, you might contact the science teacher, or the math teacher, or maybe they really have a computer teacher--not one that merely teaches Word for Windows--and donate your old versions there. I should think that versions older than about three dot numbers might not be welcome. I.E. 7.1 might be OK, but not older. That's just my guess.
I remember awhile back, someone from Africa was asking for donated old distributions. He said the price of a new boxed set was more than some people there earn in a month, and downloading the free distros was out of the question because the best connections they can get are phone lines.
Hey maybe that would be a good "charity to start". Collect old boxed sets, and economically ship them over on a boat in containers. Maybe Bill Gates would donate some of his "Charity" money to the cause. :-)
there was an Australian organization in the news a while back, they were donating old PCs to Vietnam & other Asian countries - Microsoft got upest because they were installing old (not current) MS products on them & demanded they desist. They installed a linux distro (not sure which one). PM
The 03.01.24 at 15:42, PL O'Smith wrote:
Well, Kev, let's see. SuSE guys correct me if I am wrong. One would be for marketing purposes, so that SuSE would have an accurate count of users, to show SuSE those people who are supporting them and I have seen added support given because of their knowledge of my support.
Er... no. That only counts customers that bothered to register (I don't), but not users. Customers can be counted as well by sales, but users can not be counted so easily as many install from a friends copy or by ftp. -- Cheers, Carlos Robinson
On Fri, 24 Jan 2003 15:42:24 -0500
PL O'Smith
And those valuable purposes would be... ?
Name two.
Well, Kev, let's see. SuSE guys correct me if I am wrong. One would be for marketing purposes, so that SuSE would have an accurate count of users, to show SuSE those people who are supporting them and I have seen added support given because of their knowledge of my support. Ooops, sorry that's more than two, got carried away, but you get the idea. :o)
More likely, how about just wasting SuSE's employee's valuable time, answering emails and phone calls, which would do nothing but push up the prices of the distribution. Oh but wait, maybe SuSE could do what other companies do for tech support, let a bunch of low paid entry-level people answer the support questions. (Hey wait...isn't what this list is? :-) ) -- use Perl; #powerful programmable prestidigitation
The biggest benifit is letting SuSE know you are using thier product. The more people that proudly use/register thier software, the less change of them going the sad path as so many other Linux companies. It would be a sad day to see SuSE go in that direction, Hence I make every effort to support SuSE products. RK Davies Textbox Networks On Fri, 2003-01-24 at 14:52, KMcLauchlan@chrysalis-its.com wrote:
-----Original Message----- From: PL O'Smith [mailto:penguin0601@earthlink.net] Sent: Friday, January 24, 2003 1:43 PM
[snip]
The registration number serves more purposes than just getting the buyer support from SuSE, so by all means, register it after you get up and running with your new SuSE setup!
And those valuable purposes would be... ?
Name two.
/kevin
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Carlos E. R.
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DJ
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Doug McGarrett
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Kevin McLauchlan
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KMcLauchlan@chrysalis-its.com
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Paul Mooney
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Phantasm
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PL O'Smith
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zentara